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TOPIC: ELTON JOHN CLAIMS JESUS WAS HOMOSEXUAL
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 12:01 am
From: "HD"
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>
>
> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks then
>>>>>>>> the reason
>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these ever
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and straight
>>>>>>> sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are the only cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they want is
>>>>>> the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000
>>>>>> people have aids.
>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of their own
>>>>> bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the Taliban or Saudi
>>>>> Arabia.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very morally
>>>> sick nation.
>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult sister and
>>>> brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy of your own
>>>> bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care for you
>> with Christian love and without prejustice.
> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that will not
> happen. If you really want to fight aids
you get married and be faithful.
But of course we can't have that. It is religious teaching.
you should encourage safe sex, not
> say it is only spread through gay sex.
>
>
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 12:32 am
From: "Seon Ferguson"
"HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rqidnSsDVPCLQx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:6O4gn.8978$pv.7300@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks then
>>>>>>>>>>> the reason
>>>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these ever
>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and
>>>>>>>>>> straight sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are the
>>>>>>>>>> only cause.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they want
>>>>>>>>> is the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000
>>>>>>>>> people have aids.
>>>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of their
>>>>>>>> own bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the Taliban or
>>>>>>>> Saudi Arabia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very
>>>>>>> morally sick nation.
>>>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult sister
>>>>>>> and brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy of your
>>>>>>> own bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>>>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care for
>>>>> you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>>>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that will
>>>> not happen. If you really want to fight aids you should encourage safe
>>>> sex, not say it is only spread through gay sex.
>>>>
>>> It is spread through immorality. ( The things people do in the privacy
>>> of their bedrooms)
>>>
>>>
>> And banning gay sex will end the spread of aids, right?
>>
>
> It's only part of the problem. All promiscuity is responsible for Aids.
> Of course, you believe that the individual should have all rights while
> society should not have the right to protect itself from the damage caused
> by induvidual behaviour.
>
>
>
Bingo, that's my stance as well. Un protected sex either gay or straight sex
is the reason aids have spread.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 12:33 am
From: "Seon Ferguson"
"HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:GL5gn.8986$pv.5993@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks then
>>>>>>>>> the reason
>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these ever
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and straight
>>>>>>>> sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are the only cause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they want is
>>>>>>> the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000
>>>>>>> people have aids.
>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of their own
>>>>>> bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the Taliban or Saudi
>>>>>> Arabia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very morally
>>>>> sick nation.
>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult sister and
>>>>> brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy of your own
>>>>> bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care for
>>> you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that will not
>> happen. If you really want to fight aids
>
>
> you get married and be faithful.
> But of course we can't have that. It is religious teaching.
>
>
When I marry a woman I will be faithful because I am in love with her and
will only want to be with her, not because some "holly book" told me it is
the truth.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 12:59 am
From: "HD"
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fI6dnflYLcycbR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>
>
> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:sE5gn.8984$pv.8892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:rqidnSsDVPCLQx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6O4gn.8978$pv.7300@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks
>>>>>>>>>>>> then the reason
>>>>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these
>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since
>>>>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and
>>>>>>>>>>> straight sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are the
>>>>>>>>>>> only cause.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they want
>>>>>>>>>> is the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000
>>>>>>>>>> people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of their
>>>>>>>>> own bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the Taliban
>>>>>>>>> or Saudi Arabia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very
>>>>>>>> morally sick nation.
>>>>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult sister
>>>>>>>> and brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy of your
>>>>>>>> own bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>>>>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>>>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care for
>>>>>> you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>>>>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that will
>>>>> not happen. If you really want to fight aids you should encourage safe
>>>>> sex, not say it is only spread through gay sex.
>>>>>
>>>> It is spread through immorality. ( The things people do in the privacy
>>>> of their bedrooms)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And banning gay sex will end the spread of aids, right?
>>>
>>
>> It's only part of the problem. All promiscuity is responsible for Aids.
>> Of course, you believe that the individual should have all rights while
>> society should not have the right to protect itself from the damage
>> caused by induvidual behaviour.
>>
>>
>>
> Bingo, that's my stance as well. Un protected sex either gay or straight
> sex is the reason aids have spread.
>
Sex outside marriage with multiple partner is the reason.
A condom is no guarantee, especially in homosexual situations.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 1:32 am
From: "Seon Ferguson"
"HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KB6gn.8998$pv.2453@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fI6dnflYLcycbR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:sE5gn.8984$pv.8892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rqidnSsDVPCLQx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:6O4gn.8978$pv.7300@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then the reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since
>>>>>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and
>>>>>>>>>>>> straight sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are
>>>>>>>>>>>> the only cause.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they want
>>>>>>>>>>> is the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000
>>>>>>>>>>> people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of their
>>>>>>>>>> own bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the Taliban
>>>>>>>>>> or Saudi Arabia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very
>>>>>>>>> morally sick nation.
>>>>>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult sister
>>>>>>>>> and brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy of your
>>>>>>>>> own bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>>>>>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>>>>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care
>>>>>>> for you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>>>>>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that will
>>>>>> not happen. If you really want to fight aids you should encourage
>>>>>> safe sex, not say it is only spread through gay sex.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is spread through immorality. ( The things people do in the privacy
>>>>> of their bedrooms)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And banning gay sex will end the spread of aids, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's only part of the problem. All promiscuity is responsible for Aids.
>>> Of course, you believe that the individual should have all rights while
>>> society should not have the right to protect itself from the damage
>>> caused by induvidual behaviour.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Bingo, that's my stance as well. Un protected sex either gay or straight
>> sex is the reason aids have spread.
>>
> Sex outside marriage with multiple partner is the reason.
> A condom is no guarantee, especially in homosexual situations.
>
Or heterosexual situations. But we can't stop people from having sex.
Personally I want to have sex with a woman when I fall in love with her or
at least in like. That way it will be meaningful.
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 1:47 am
From: "HD"
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:KB6gn.8998$pv.2453@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fI6dnflYLcycbR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>> news:sE5gn.8984$pv.8892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rqidnSsDVPCLQx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6O4gn.8978$pv.7300@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then the reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only cause.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they
>>>>>>>>>>>> want is the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000
>>>>>>>>>>>> people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of
>>>>>>>>>>> their own bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the
>>>>>>>>>>> Taliban or Saudi Arabia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very
>>>>>>>>>> morally sick nation.
>>>>>>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>>>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult
>>>>>>>>>> sister and brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy
>>>>>>>>>> of your own bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>>>>>>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>>>>>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care
>>>>>>>> for you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>>>>>>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that
>>>>>>> will not happen. If you really want to fight aids you should
>>>>>>> encourage safe sex, not say it is only spread through gay sex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is spread through immorality. ( The things people do in the
>>>>>> privacy of their bedrooms)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> And banning gay sex will end the spread of aids, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's only part of the problem. All promiscuity is responsible for Aids.
>>>> Of course, you believe that the individual should have all rights while
>>>> society should not have the right to protect itself from the damage
>>>> caused by induvidual behaviour.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Bingo, that's my stance as well. Un protected sex either gay or straight
>>> sex is the reason aids have spread.
>>>
>> Sex outside marriage with multiple partner is the reason.
>> A condom is no guarantee, especially in homosexual situations.
>>
> Or heterosexual situations. But we can't stop people from having sex.
> Personally I want to have sex with a woman when I fall in love with her or
> at least in like. That way it will be meaningful.
>
sure, but in a promiscuite society that women you have married could have
grown up without (Christian) morality and slept with your best friend who is
bisexual and has AIDS.
Do you know that in Australia seven men commit suicide each day when the
wife decides to work out of the marriage with someone else.
Do you know that in our society half the kids have divorced parents and are
so screwed up that they get into all kinds of trouble?
But, we must protect our right to do what we like and to hell with society.
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 2:08 am
From: "Seon Ferguson"
"HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:m5OdneR1jbZLYB3WnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:KB6gn.8998$pv.2453@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fI6dnflYLcycbR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:sE5gn.8984$pv.8892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rqidnSsDVPCLQx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:6O4gn.8978$pv.7300@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then the reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only cause.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want is the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of
>>>>>>>>>>>> their own bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taliban or Saudi Arabia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very
>>>>>>>>>>> morally sick nation.
>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult
>>>>>>>>>>> sister and brother or your adult daughter and son in the privacy
>>>>>>>>>>> of your own bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but I
>>>>>>>>>> realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>>>>>>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care
>>>>>>>>> for you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>>>>>>>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that
>>>>>>>> will not happen. If you really want to fight aids you should
>>>>>>>> encourage safe sex, not say it is only spread through gay sex.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is spread through immorality. ( The things people do in the
>>>>>>> privacy of their bedrooms)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And banning gay sex will end the spread of aids, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's only part of the problem. All promiscuity is responsible for
>>>>> Aids.
>>>>> Of course, you believe that the individual should have all rights
>>>>> while society should not have the right to protect itself from the
>>>>> damage caused by induvidual behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Bingo, that's my stance as well. Un protected sex either gay or
>>>> straight sex is the reason aids have spread.
>>>>
>>> Sex outside marriage with multiple partner is the reason.
>>> A condom is no guarantee, especially in homosexual situations.
>>>
>> Or heterosexual situations. But we can't stop people from having sex.
>> Personally I want to have sex with a woman when I fall in love with her
>> or at least in like. That way it will be meaningful.
>>
> sure, but in a promiscuite society that women you have married could have
> grown up without (Christian) morality and slept with your best friend who
> is bisexual and has AIDS.
> Do you know that in Australia seven men commit suicide each day when the
> wife decides to work out of the marriage with someone else.
> Do you know that in our society half the kids have divorced parents and
> are so screwed up that they get into all kinds of trouble?
> But, we must protect our right to do what we like and to hell with
> society.
>
>
>
>
That's one of the disadvantages of living in a fee society. We have freedom
to do whatever we want but we might hurt people and cause them to kill
themselves or receive a sexually transmitted disease. But it is the same
reason God gives us free will. We can fall into temptation but we need to
accept that actions have consequences. If we didn't have free will and God
controlled our every move I would rather kill myself. It's the same with
living in a free society.
Hopefully the woman I marry doesn't sleep around and if she does I may need
a doctors certificate to prove she is ok health wise before we make love. Of
course that might offend her.
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 2:30 am
From: "HD"
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:pi7gn.9005$pv.3953@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:m5OdneR1jbZLYB3WnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>> news:KB6gn.8998$pv.2453@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fI6dnflYLcycbR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:sE5gn.8984$pv.8892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:rqidnSsDVPCLQx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:6O4gn.8978$pv.7300@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:5fydnalWIpIOSR3WnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Lk4gn.8976$pv.6768@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:aa-dnYwjyZIzUR3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:JR3gn.8974$pv.1639@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:JvedncLpd8ZnIB3WnZ2dnUVZ_sQAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:tZ2gn.8963$pv.6463@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then the reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circumsision?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight sex. So there goes your theory that homosexuals are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only cause.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want is the cause of AIDS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Philippines which has a similar population, about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.000 people have aids.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are Catholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to control what two adults do in the privacy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own bedroom then you are a facist and just as bad as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taliban or Saudi Arabia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't control it you have a diseased nation and a very
>>>>>>>>>>>> morally sick nation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't reply to my other post:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it okay for you to have sex with your mother, your adult
>>>>>>>>>>>> sister and brother or your adult daughter and son in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> privacy of your own bedroom provided you use condoms?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did reply. I was going to ask why are you so full of hate but
>>>>>>>>>>> I realised why: Your a Christian. Thank God I'm not a Christian.
>>>>>>>>>> You may become a Christian when you have AIDS and Christians care
>>>>>>>>>> for you with Christian love and without prejustice.
>>>>>>>>> When I'm with a woman I will make sure I wear protection so that
>>>>>>>>> will not happen. If you really want to fight aids you should
>>>>>>>>> encourage safe sex, not say it is only spread through gay sex.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is spread through immorality. ( The things people do in the
>>>>>>>> privacy of their bedrooms)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And banning gay sex will end the spread of aids, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's only part of the problem. All promiscuity is responsible for
>>>>>> Aids.
>>>>>> Of course, you believe that the individual should have all rights
>>>>>> while society should not have the right to protect itself from the
>>>>>> damage caused by induvidual behaviour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bingo, that's my stance as well. Un protected sex either gay or
>>>>> straight sex is the reason aids have spread.
>>>>>
>>>> Sex outside marriage with multiple partner is the reason.
>>>> A condom is no guarantee, especially in homosexual situations.
>>>>
>>> Or heterosexual situations. But we can't stop people from having sex.
>>> Personally I want to have sex with a woman when I fall in love with her
>>> or at least in like. That way it will be meaningful.
>>>
>> sure, but in a promiscuite society that women you have married could have
>> grown up without (Christian) morality and slept with your best friend who
>> is bisexual and has AIDS.
>> Do you know that in Australia seven men commit suicide each day when the
>> wife decides to work out of the marriage with someone else.
>> Do you know that in our society half the kids have divorced parents and
>> are so screwed up that they get into all kinds of trouble?
>> But, we must protect our right to do what we like and to hell with
>> society.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> That's one of the disadvantages of living in a fee society. We have
> freedom to do whatever we want but we might hurt people and cause them to
> kill themselves or receive a sexually transmitted disease. But it is the
> same reason God gives us free will. We can fall into temptation but we
> need to accept that actions have consequences. If we didn't have free will
> and God controlled our every move I would rather kill myself. It's the
> same with living in a free society.
>
> Hopefully the woman I marry doesn't sleep around and if she does I may
> need a doctors certificate to prove she is ok health wise before we make
> love. Of course that might offend her.
>
>
And when you have kids, you give them free will and let them do what they
want or do you have rules (10 commandments) that they must obey for their
own good?
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 6:04 am
From: uNmaiviLambi
On Feb 20, 10:33 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Yes and while we may think that act is disgusting as well if it is done in
> the privacy of their own bedroom people should have every right to do
> whatever perverted crap they want. As long as two adults agree to perform
> the act and no one is forced into it who cares? Seriously?
The problem is really not whatever perversion people practice. The
problem really is elevation of this to an alternate life style. That
is clearly downgrading marriages and honorable, decent moral living.
This claim to alternate life style is the actual problem. I do not
support any persecution of perverts but they deserve not adoration but
compassion and help to shed perversion, if possible
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TOPIC: HAWALA AND LOOTED MONEY STASHED AWAY IN TAX HAVENS (e.g. SWISS ACCOUNTS)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/1f0b6fa6d552b416?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:11 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian.marathi/browse_thread/thread/f9b738e079fef9fb#
...and I am Sid Harth
== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:12 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > accounts.
>
> > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > called off.
>
> > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > Yojana.
>
> > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > alliance.
>
> > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
>
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Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:14 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > accounts.
>
> > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > called off.
>
> > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > alliance.
>
> > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
>
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== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:16 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
>
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== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:18 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
>
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Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:21 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
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== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:24 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
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Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:28 am
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wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
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> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
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== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:32 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
On Feb 21, 10:28 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:24 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
> > > > > > > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> > > > > > > > > > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> > > > > > > > > > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > > > > > > > > > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > > > > > > > > > fair use of copyrighted works.
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== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 7:36 am
From: bademiyansubhanallah
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wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:28 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:24 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
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== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 11:10 am
From: chhotemianinshallah
On Feb 21, 10:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:32 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:28 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:24 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> > > > > > > > > > > > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> > > > > > > > > > > > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > > > > > > > > > > > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > > > > > > > > > > > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > > > > > > > > > > > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current
> > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > > > > > > > > > > > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are
> > > > > > > > > > > > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
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> > > > > > > > > > > > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
> > > > > > > > > > > > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title
> > > > > > > > > > > > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
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> > > > > > > > > > > > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
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...and I am Sid Harth
== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 11:13 am
From: chhotemianinshallah
On Feb 21, 2:10 pm, chhotemianinshallah <citad...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 10:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:32 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:28 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:24 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
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== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 11:15 am
From: chhotemianinshallah
On Feb 21, 2:13 pm, chhotemianinshallah <citad...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:10 pm, chhotemianinshallah <citad...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:32 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:28 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:24 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
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== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 11:17 am
From: chhotemianinshallah
On Feb 21, 2:15 pm, chhotemianinshallah <citad...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:13 pm, chhotemianinshallah <citad...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 2:10 pm, chhotemianinshallah <citad...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 10:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:32 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 21, 10:28 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:24 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:21 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:18 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:16 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:14 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:36 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2:34 am, bademiyansubhanallah <elcidha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 9:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accounts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called off.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alliance.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
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Date: Sun, Feb 21 2010 11:19 am
From: chhotemianinshallah
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, February 20, 2010
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. Kalyanaraman
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accounts.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chief minister Shibu Soren.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called off.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mining and electricity departments.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yojana.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been found to possess," it was said.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alliance.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hearing the PIL against Koda.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-prob...
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
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