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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 12:04 am
From: "P. Rajah"

harmony aka pradipshithead parekh wrote:

> of course, you must know sanskrit,

What for, shit for brains? The article you quote is all about IT, which
means a working knowledge of English is what is required.

> and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
> ji has pointed to.

The only thing "criteria" enumerated by Jay Stevens Maharaj, the jackass
jyotishithead, results in your head being filled with shit, you being a
prime example.

Here's where you and Jay can find jobs:
http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2010/01/13/brothels-in-red-street-are-hiring-astrologers/

> Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
> are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
> job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
> recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
> a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
> Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 1:07 am
From: "Benway (original non-Zionist)"

P. Rajah wrote:
> harmony aka pradipshithead parekh wrote:
>
> > of course, you must know sanskrit,
>
> What for, shit for brains? The article you quote is all about IT, which
> means a working knowledge of English is what is required.
>
> > and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
> > ji has pointed to.
>
> The only thing "criteria" enumerated by Jay Stevens Maharaj, the jackass
> jyotishithead, results in your head being filled with shit, you being a
> prime example.
>
> Here's where you and Jay can find jobs:
> http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2010/01/13/brothels-in-red-street-are-hiring-astrologers/
>
> > Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> > major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
> > are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> > them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
> > job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
> > recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
> > a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
> > Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.

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== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:07 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Yes harmony ji, the knowledge of Sanskrit is indeed very desirable:

[ Subject: HINDUS' AMAZING SCIENCE OF SPEECH - Grammar, Phonetics,
[ Phonology and Morphology. Sanskrit was the classical literary
[ language of the Hindus and Panini is considered the founder of the
[ language and literature
[ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010

In article <19cd52e0-a24b-4d3e-8061-8ea82317b...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
CYBERHINWA <cyberhi...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Amazing Science - By J J O'Connor and E F Robertson
>
> Grammar, Phonetics, Phonology, Morphology - Sanskrit was the classical
> literary language of the Indian Hindus and Panini is considered the
> founder of the language and literature.
>
> Panini
> Article by: J J O'Connor and E F Robertson
> School of Mathematics and Statistics
> University of St Andrews, Scotland
>
> Born: about 520 BC in Shalatula (near Attock),
> now Pakistan Died: about 460 BC in India
>
> Panini was born in Shalatula, a town near to Attock on the Indus river
> in present day Pakistan. The dates given for Panini are pure guesses.
> Experts give dates in the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th century BC and there
> is also no agreement among historians about the extent of the work
> which he undertook. What is in little doubt is that, given the period
> in which he worked, he is one of the most innovative people in the
> whole development of knowledge. We will say a little more below about
> how historians have gone about trying to pinpoint the date when Panini
> lived.
>
> Panini was a Sanskrit grammarian who gave a comprehensive and
> scientific theory of phonetics, phonology, and morphology. Sanskrit
> was the classical literary language of the Indian Hindus and Panini is
> considered the founder of the language and literature. It is
> interesting to note that the word "Sanskrit" means "complete" or
> "perfect" and it was thought of as the divine language, or language of
> the gods.
>
> A treatise called Astadhyayi (or Astaka ) is Panini's major work. It
> consists of eight chapters, each subdivided into quarter chapters. In
> this work Panini distinguishes between the language of sacred texts
> and the usual language of communication. Panini gives formal
> production rules and definitions to describe Sanskrit grammar.
> Starting with about 1700 basic elements like nouns, verbs, vowels,
> consonants he put them into classes. The construction of sentences,
> compound nouns etc. is explained as ordered rules operating on
> underlying structures in a manner similar to modern theory. In many
> ways Panini's constructions are similar to the way that a mathematical
> function is defined today. Joseph writes in [2]:-
>
> Sanskrit's potential for scientific use was greatly enhanced as a
> result of the thorough systemisation of its grammar by Panini. ... On
> the basis of just under 4000 sutras [rules expressed as aphorisms], he
> built virtually the whole structure of the Sanskrit language, whose
> general 'shape' hardly changed for the next two thousand years. ... An
> indirect consequence of Panini's efforts to increase the linguistic
> facility of Sanskrit soon became apparent in the character of
> scientific and mathematical literature.
>
> Joseph goes on to make a convincing argument for the algebraic nature
> of Indian mathematics arising as a consequence of the structure of the
> Sanskrit language. In particular he suggests that algebraic reasoning,
> the Indian way of representing numbers by words, and ultimately the
> development of modern number systems in India, are linked Panini
> should be thought of as the forerunner of the modern formal language
> theory used to specify computer languages. The Backus Normal Form was
> discovered independently by John BACKUS in 1959, but Panini's notation
> is equivalent in its power to that of BACKUS and has many similar
> properties. It is remarkable to think that concepts which are
> fundamental to today's theoretical computer science should have their
> origin with an Indian genius around 2500 years ago.
>
> At the beginning of this article we mentioned that certain concepts
> had been attributed to Panini by certain historians which others
> dispute. One such theory was put forward by B Indraji in 1876. He
> claimed that the Brahmi numerals developed out of using letters or
> syllables as numerals. Then he put the finishing touches to the theory
> by suggesting that Panini in the eighth century BC (earlier than most
> historians place Panini) was the first to come up with the idea of
> using letters of the alphabet to represent numbers.
>
> There are a number of pieces of evidence to support Indraji's theory
> that the Brahmi numerals developed from letters or syllables. However
> it is not totally convincing since, to quote one example, the symbols
> for 1, 2 and 3 clearly don't come from letters but from one, two and
> three lines respectively. Even if one accepts the link between the
> numerals and the letters, making Panini the originator of this idea
> would seem to have no more behind it than knowing that Panini was one
> of the most innovative geniuses that world has known so it is not
> unreasonable to believe that he might have made this step too.
>
> There are other works which are closely associated with the Astadhyayi
> which some historians attribute to Panini, others attribute to authors
> before Panini, others attribute to authors after Panini. This is an
> area where there are many theories but few, if any, hard facts.
>
> We also promised to return to a discussion of Panini's dates. There
> has been no lack of work on this topic so the fact that there are
> theories which span several hundreds of years is not the result of
> lack of effort, rather an indication of the difficulty of the topic.
> The usual way to date such texts would be to examine which authors are
> referred to and which authors refer to the work. One can use this
> technique and see who Panini mentions.
>
> There are ten scholars mentioned by Panini and we must assume from the
> context that these ten have all contributed to the study of Sanskrit
> grammar. This in itself, of course, indicates that Panini was not a
> solitary genius but, like Newton, had "stood on the shoulders of
> giants". Now Panini must have lived later than these ten but this is
> absolutely no help in providing dates since we have absolutely no
> knowledge of when any of these ten lived.
>
> What other internal evidence is there to use? Well of course Panini
> uses many phrases to illustrate his grammar and these have been
> examined meticulously to see if anything is contained there to
> indicate a date. To give an example of what we mean: if we were to
> pick up a text which contained as an example "I take the train to work
> every day" we would know that it had to have been written after
> railways became common. Let us illustrate with two actual examples
> from the Astadhyayi which have been the subject of much study. The
> first is an attempt to see whether there is evidence of Greek
> influence. Would it be possible to find evidence which would mean that
> the text had to have been written after the conquests of Alexander the
> Great? There is a little evidence of Greek influence, but there was
> Greek influence on this north east part of the Indian subcontinent
> before the time of Alexander. Nothing conclusive has been identified.
>
> Another angle is to examine a reference Panini makes to nuns. now some
> argue that these must be Buddhist nuns and therefore the work must
> have been written after Buddha. A nice argument but there is a counter
> argument which says that there were Jaina nuns before the time of
> Buddha and Panini's reference could equally well be to them. Again the
> evidence is inconclusive.
>
> There are references by others to Panini. However it would appear that
> the Panini to whom most refer is a poet and although some argue that
> these are the same person, most historians agree that the linguist and
> the poet are two different people. Again this is inconclusive
> evidence.
>
> Let us end with an evaluation of Panini's contribution by Cardona in
> [1]:-
>
> Panini's grammar has been evaluated from various points of view. After
> all these different evaluations, I think that the grammar merits
> asserting ... that it is one of the greatest monuments of human
> intelligence.
>
> Article by: J J O'Connor and E F Robertson
>
> School of Mathematics and Statistics
> University of St Andrews, Scotland
> http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/Mathematicians/Panini.html
> __________________________________________
>
> "Panini, famous grammarian of the Sanskrit language, lived in India
> some time between the 7th and the 4th centuries B.C. Following in the
> steps of the Brahmi alphabet makers, he became the most renowned of
> the grammarians. His work on Sanskrit, with its 4,168 rules, is
> outstanding for its highly systematic methods of analyzing and
> describing language.
>
> The birth of linguistic science in Western Europe in the 19th century
> was due largely to the European discovery of Panini's Sanskrit
> grammar, making linguistics a science.
>
> The modern science of linguistics is the basis for producing alphabets
> for languages yet unwritten today."
>
> JAARS Alphabet Museum
> Box 248
> Waxhaw, NC 28173
>
> ________________________________________
>
> Panini's grammar (6th century BCE or earlier) provides 4,000 rules
> that describe the Sanskrit of his day completely. This grammar is
> acknowledged to be one of the greatest intellectual achievements of
> all time. The great variety of language mirrors, in many ways, the
> complexity of nature and, therefore, success in describing a language
> is as impressive as a complete theory of physics. It is remarkable
> that Panini set out to describe the entire grammar in terms of a
> finite number of rules. Scholars have shown that the grammar of Panini
> represents a universal grammatical and computing system. From this
> perspective it anticipates the logical framework of modern computers.
> One may speak of a Panini machine as a model for the most powerful
> computing system.
>
> Source: Staal, F. 1988. Universals. Chicago: University of Chicago
> Press.
>
> Related articles
> Aryan Language Family
>
> _______________________________________
>
>
> Panini was a Sanskrit grammarian who gave a comprehensive and
> scientific theory of phonetics, phonology, and morphology. Sanskrit
> was the classical literary language of the Indian Hindus.
>
> In a treatise called Astadhyayi Panini distinguishes between the
> language of sacred texts and the usual language of communication.
> Panini gives formal production rules and definitions to describe
> Sanskrit grammar. The construction of sentences, compound nouns etc.
> is explained as ordered rules operating on underlying structures in a
> manner similar to modern theory.
>
> Panini should be thought of as the forerunner of the modern formal
> language theory used to specify computer languages. The Backus Normal
> Form was discovered independently by John Backus in 1959, but Panini's
> notation is equivalent in its power to that of Backus and has many
> similar properties.
>
> http://history.math.csusb.edu/Mathematicians/Panini.html

Dhanyavaad for your post.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b7ce004$0$12457$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> of course, you must know sanskrit, and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
> ji has pointed to.
>
>
> Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
> are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
> job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
> recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
> a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
> Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.
>
> India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans to
> hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in the
> fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its
> hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000
> campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched about
> 18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for
> fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by
> May-June 2010.
>
> Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now fear
> that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People are
> leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which as
> a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations,
> Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup
> just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will get
> more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility, which
> will pay off in the long run," says Divya.
>
> Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the
> slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges.
> "Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right
> talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the
> challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies feels
> that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they hire
> lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very
> serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the
> coming months.
>
> Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who are
> joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup
> environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were
> people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without worrying
> about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time the
> company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and also
> has some prospects in Anna University.
>
>

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:15 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Dhanyavaad for mentioning Sanskrit, harmony ji -- a previous article appears below.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

[ Subject: SANSKRIT, THE MOST CONVENIENT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: December 8, 1998

Hindusim Today has published similar information
about Sanskrit about a decade ago. - Jai Maharaj

A post from Anil Londhe follows:

According to the Forbes magazine (July,1987), "Sanskrit is the
most convenient language for computer software programming".

Sanskrit (means "cultured"), is the classsical language of
Hinduism. It is the oldest and the most systematic language in the
world. It is vast and versatile.

In the words of Juan Mascaro, who has paid tribute to the
glory of the Sanskrit literature:

"Sanskrit literature is a great literature. We have the great
songs of the Vedas, the splendor of the Upanishds, the glory of the
Bhagvat-Gita, the vastness(100,000 verses) of the Mahabaharat, the
tenderness and the herosim found in the Ramayana, the wisdom of the
fables and stories of India, the scientific philosophy of Sankhya,
the psychological : philosophy of Vedanta, the Laws of Manu, the
grammar of Panini and other scientific writings, the lyrical
poetry, and dramas of Kalidas. Sanskrit literature, on the whole,
is a romantic interwoven with idealism and practical wisdom, and
with a passionate longing for spiritual vision." Panini's Sanskrit
grammar, produced in about 300 BCE, is the shortest and fullest
grammar in the world. According to Sir Monier-Williams,
(Englishman, Sanskrit scholar 1819-1899):

"The Panini grammar reflects the wondrous capacity of the hyman
brain which till today no other country has been able to produce
except India".

(SourceThe Hindu Mind. Fundamentals of Hindu Religion and
Philosophy for all Ages. By Bansi Pandit. 1996)

Courtesy of Anil Londhe

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
Billionaire financier J. P. Morgan used
a scientific astrologer and so can you!
Om Shanti

Please help stop death threats, hate crimes and terrorism:

NEW YORK CHRISTIAN THREATENS TO KILL ASTROLOGERS

Criminal Prem Thomas <prem...@ged.net> [now posts as "P. Rajah"]
of 8 Lakeland Avenue,Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA, tel 914-268-8634,
fax 914-268-5361,has published threats to mass-murder astrologers:

Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers

Commonly-available public records list
the address of the suspect as:

Prem Thomas
8 Lakeland Avenue
Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA
Fax 914-268-5361
Telephone 914-268-8634

Prem Thomas himself advertised his Fax number:

[ Subject: WTB: Coking Coal
[ From: Prem Thomas <premone@qed.net>
[ Date: 1996/10/07
[ Message-Id: <DywtCC.H4n@news2.new-york.net>
[ X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-55.qed.net
[ X-Trace: 844698250/21103
[ Newsgroups: alt.business.import-export
[ X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; U; 16bit)
[
[ I have an urgent requirement for 2MMT of high-grade
[ coking coal in the very short term(3 months). Destination
[ is Asian port. Please e-mail response or fax to
[ (914)268-5361.

Prem Thomas usually uses the following
Internet Service Provider to post his attacks
against astrologers and groups of people he hates:

Internet Communications Company (QED2-DOM)
12 Promenade
New City, NY 10956
US

Domain Name: QED.NET

Administrative Contact:
Feinberg, Nick (NF39) nick@QED.NET
914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Feinberg, Nick (NF106) nick@QED.NET
914-353-9290
Billing Contact:
Feinberg, Nick (NF39) nick@QED.NET
914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669

Record last updated on 14-Oct-96.
Record created on 18-Oct-95.
Database last updated on 1-Jan-98 05:14:40 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.2.51
NS2.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.101.51
NS3.NEW-YORK.NET 206.139.202.51

Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers

=== Exhibit <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com> ===========================
[
[ Path: . . . cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
[ news.new-york.net!nonexistent.com!not-for-mail
[ From: Prem Thomas <premone@qed.net>
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,
[ soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.religion.islam,
[ alt.religion.hindu,alt.culture.hawaii,alt.crime,
[ soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.activism
[ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:58:13 UTC
[ Message-ID: <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com>
[
[ [...] Your friggin' astrology is no more relevant to
[ the 20th and 21st centuries than voodoo. . . .
[ The salvation of the people of the sub-continent
[ lies in the extermination of the blood-sucking vampires
[ of your kind. . . . [...]
[
[ Prem
[
=== End of Exhibit <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com> ====================

[ Subject: An Enemy of Astrologers - Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
[ From: address.below.or@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:41:10 UTC
[ Message-ID: <astrology-0637.971215@news.mantra.com>

Prem Thomas claims to be a Christian.
He is evidently dedicated to eliminating astrologers from the world.
Yes, his posts in newsgroups contain the line:

"Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet"

Here is the proof (newsgroup posts can be found at www.dejanews.com ) :

Exhibit
> From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:33:41 UTC
> Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet
> Message-ID: <3494B325.C1D79F38@ged.net>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyack-157.qed.net
End of Exhibit

There are numerous exhibits such as the one above.

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.flex.com/~jai
http://members.aol.com/Jyotishi
Om Shanti

Previous post about Prem Thomas:

[ Subject: NEWCOMERS PLEASE READ: Anti-Astrology People List
[ From: jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Date: September 24, 1997
[ Message-ID: <875127409.28238@dejanews.com>
[
[ (Please feel free to add to this
[ list and change the "updated" time and date.)
[
[ List of People Who Post Anti-Astrology Messages
[
[ Updated September 24, 1997 at 1853 hours UTC
[
[ Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
[ Excerpts from his posts:
[
[ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS A "THIEVING PROFESSION"
[ >
[ > From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
[ > Subject: Re: GUJRAL-SHARIF MEET
[ > Date: 1997/09/23
[ > Message-ID: <EGyE06.6A2@nonexistent.com>
[ > References: <874942020.24827@dejanews.com>
[ > <fik9g95j0a.fsf@swap31-236> <874987007.12168@dejanews.com>
[ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-63.qed.net
[ > X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if this posting
[ > is inappropriate
[ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 875004773 11126 (None) [204.141.125.63]
[ >
[ > I received the news that astrologers were unable to agree on an
[ > auspicious time (Muhoort) to recommend for the meeting between
[ > the two. Looking at some of the data, I also do not recommend
[ > any day this week (except Thursday, September 25 for this purpose).
[
[ > It's truly amazing that Indians at all economic levels continue to
[ > "consult" this thieving profession despite being the living
[ > embodiment
[ > of it's irrelevance and ineffectuality.
[ >
[ > Prem
[ >
[ > mailto:premone@qed.net
[
[ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS "HUMBUG">
[ >
[ > From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
[ > Subject: Re: Planetary Pundit - Dr. K. Navaratnam
[ > Date: 1997/08/23
[ > Message-ID: <EFCzB4.IE7@nonexistent.com>
[ > References: <astrology-1907.970818@news.mantra.com>
[ > <EF8BI1.MHL@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
[ > <astrology-1643.970822@news.mantra.com>
[ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-51.qed.net
[ > X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if
[ > this posting is inappropriate
[ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 872326334 20461 (None) [204.141.125.51]
[ >
[ > [...] Regardless of what Jai Maharaj says, the fact remains
[ > that astrology is humbug. [...]
[
[
[ Sumbitted by:
[
[ Jai Maharaj
[ Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
[ Om Shanti

Here are tthree news items about other criminals like him:

News item 1
"ONLINE HATE DRAWS SENTENCE . . .
"A 21-year-old college dropout who became the first
person convicted of a federal hate crime committed in
cyberspace received a one-year jail sentence . . .
"U.S. District Judge Alicemarie Stotler Monday sentenced
Richard Machado to one year in prison and ordered him to
undergo counseling.
[...]
"Prosecutors said he sent e-mail messages to 59 Asian
students at UCI, threatening to 'find and kill every one of
you personally' and signing the missives 'Asian Hater.' . . ."
[...] End of Excerpts
- Reuters, Los Angeles, CA, USA, May 5, 1998.

News item 2
"EMAIL DEATH THREAT SPREADS
"A death threat spam that frightened America Online
members last week now has spread to Yahoo Mail.
"The email message, which comes from an America Online
return address, reads as follows:
"'Hello, my name is Andy. I know where you live and I
know where your kids sleep. If you dont [sic] call me within
24 hours im [sic] going to kill your kids.' It lists a phone
number and adds: 'P.S. This is NOT a joke.'
[...]
"'We're working closely with the FBI,' Ryan said. 'This
is a criminal investigation, and we're cooperating fully
with the FBI.'
[...]
"AOL spokesperson Tricia Primrose said AOL has 'no idea'
how many of its members received the threat.
[...]
"Threats made via the Net are not a new phenomenon. Earlier
this year, a 21-year-old Los Angeles man was convicted for
sending racist death threats via email to 59 Asian students at
the University of California at Irvine. The case set a precedent
in that it put online communications on par legally with
telephone calls and postal mail. It also was significant because
it addressed civil rights violations perpetrated online.
[...]
"Online hate speech also has been a subject that has plagued
online services, families, and free speech advocates alike.
- CNET News, July 6, 1998, available at:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,23868,00.html

News item 3
"MAN CHARGED WITH CLINTON THREAT
"Eugene, Oregon (AP) - A man accused of threatening to kill
President Clinton during a visit here last June has been indicted
by a federal grand jury.
"Jeffery Loring Pickering, 49, is being held without bail in the
Lane County Jail is scheduled to be arraigned Monday in U.S.
District Court. If convicted, he could be sentenced to a maximum of
35 years in prison.
"Pickering, who was indicted Friday, was arrested by the FBI
last week in connection with telephone threats made in the days
prior to Clinton's arrival on June 13.
"The president came to Springfield to meet with victims, other
students and families recovering from the shootings at Thurston
High School which left two people dead and 22 wounded.
"In three calls to the FBI and Eugene police, a man said Clinton
would be shot during his visit and that bombs had been placed at
various locations in Eugene and Springfield.
"As the caller had accurately described, police found two bombs
in a culvert near the Oregon Air & Space Museum.
"The bombs were constructed of plastic pipe filled with
explosive material and were equipped with grenade primers. The pipe
sections were about 15 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. No other
bombs were found.
"Clinton's visit took place without incident. Ten days later,
police played a tape of one of the telephone threats at a news
conference and asked the public's help in identifying the caller.
"Court records show that two of Pickering's brothers contacted
the FBI and said he was the caller. His sisters and his mother
later identified his voice as well.
"The indictment charges Pickering with threatening to kill
Clinton, using an explosive in making the threat, making threats
that bombs were placed elsewhere, and with two counts of making
false statements to FBI agents.
"Days before the president's visit, Pickering told friends and
relatives that if Clinton visited the area he would 'blow him
away,' court documents show.
- Asociated Press, Eugene, Oregon, October 24, 1998.

In article <4b7ce004$0$12457$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> of course, you must know sanskrit, and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
> ji has pointed to.
>
>
> Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
> are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
> job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
> recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
> a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
> Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.
>
> India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans to
> hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in the
> fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its
> hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000
> campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched about
> 18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for
> fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by
> May-June 2010.
>
> Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now fear
> that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People are
> leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which as
> a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations,
> Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup
> just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will get
> more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility, which
> will pay off in the long run," says Divya.
>
> Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the
> slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges.
> "Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right
> talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the
> challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies feels
> that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they hire
> lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very
> serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the
> coming months.
>
> Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who are
> joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup
> environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were
> people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without worrying
> about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time the
> company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and also
> has some prospects in Anna University.
>
>

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:18 am
From: "Benway (original non-Zionist)"

Benway (original non-Zionist) wrote:
> P. Rajah wrote:
> > harmony aka pradipshithead parekh wrote:
> >
> > > of course, you must know sanskrit,
> >
> > What for, shit for brains? The article you quote is all about IT, which
> > means a working knowledge of English is what is required.
> >
> > > and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
> > > ji has pointed to.
> >
> > The only thing "criteria" enumerated by Jay Stevens Maharaj, the jackass
> > jyotishithead, results in your head being filled with shit, you being a
> > prime example.
> >
> > Here's where you and Jay can find jobs:
> > http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2010/01/13/brothels-in-red-street-are-hiring-astrologers/
> >
> > > Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> > > major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
> > > are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> > > them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
> > > job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
> > > recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
> > > a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
> > > Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.
>
> *****************************************
>
> Australians don't want toxic immigration changing
> the character of their cities and threatening the
> existence of their country. Australians don't want
> Australia turned into a third world dump where the
> wealthy barricade themselves in gated estates with
> a nasty dystopia festering outside.
>
> *****************************************

The wealthy get a sense of entitlement that is
derived from belonging to the privileged minority
of the population. Globalism serves them well.
Just work harder, longer, cheaper and import lots
of excess third world flesh, and before you know
it, you ARE the third world! They certainly got
the useful idiots over a barrel of bullshit.

***************************************

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 10:32 am
From: "harmony"

thank you jai maharaj ji.
it is well known that sankrit is well suited for computers too, among host
of other things. hindu employers value that. no wonder brown kirastani
employers in india are falling behind which is very upsetting to anti-hindu
brown kirastanistas of the usenet, who have gullible mallu for their
waterboy.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100218JbI92Vc4JrkJYs2788JIwN9@L4m6n...
> Dhanyavaad for mentioning Sanskrit, harmony ji -- a previous article
> appears below.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> [ Subject: SANSKRIT, THE MOST CONVENIENT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
> [ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
> [ Date: December 8, 1998
>
> Hindusim Today has published similar information
> about Sanskrit about a decade ago. - Jai Maharaj
>
> A post from Anil Londhe follows:
>
> According to the Forbes magazine (July,1987), "Sanskrit is the
> most convenient language for computer software programming".
>
> Sanskrit (means "cultured"), is the classsical language of
> Hinduism. It is the oldest and the most systematic language in the
> world. It is vast and versatile.
>
> In the words of Juan Mascaro, who has paid tribute to the
> glory of the Sanskrit literature:
>
> "Sanskrit literature is a great literature. We have the great
> songs of the Vedas, the splendor of the Upanishds, the glory of the
> Bhagvat-Gita, the vastness(100,000 verses) of the Mahabaharat, the
> tenderness and the herosim found in the Ramayana, the wisdom of the
> fables and stories of India, the scientific philosophy of Sankhya,
> the psychological : philosophy of Vedanta, the Laws of Manu, the
> grammar of Panini and other scientific writings, the lyrical
> poetry, and dramas of Kalidas. Sanskrit literature, on the whole,
> is a romantic interwoven with idealism and practical wisdom, and
> with a passionate longing for spiritual vision." Panini's Sanskrit
> grammar, produced in about 300 BCE, is the shortest and fullest
> grammar in the world. According to Sir Monier-Williams,
> (Englishman, Sanskrit scholar 1819-1899):
>
> "The Panini grammar reflects the wondrous capacity of the hyman
> brain which till today no other country has been able to produce
> except India".
>
> (SourceThe Hindu Mind. Fundamentals of Hindu Religion and
> Philosophy for all Ages. By Bansi Pandit. 1996)
>
> Courtesy of Anil Londhe
>
> Jai Maharaj
> Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
> Billionaire financier J. P. Morgan used
> a scientific astrologer and so can you!
> Om Shanti
>
> Please help stop death threats, hate crimes and terrorism:
>
> NEW YORK CHRISTIAN THREATENS TO KILL ASTROLOGERS
>
> Criminal Prem Thomas <prem...@ged.net> [now posts as "P. Rajah"]
> of 8 Lakeland Avenue,Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA, tel 914-268-8634,
> fax 914-268-5361,has published threats to mass-murder astrologers:
>
> Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
>
>
> Commonly-available public records list
> the address of the suspect as:
>
> Prem Thomas
> 8 Lakeland Avenue
> Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA
> Fax 914-268-5361
> Telephone 914-268-8634
>
> Prem Thomas himself advertised his Fax number:
>
> [ Subject: WTB: Coking Coal
> [ From: Prem Thomas <premone@qed.net>
> [ Date: 1996/10/07
> [ Message-Id: <DywtCC.H4n@news2.new-york.net>
> [ X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-55.qed.net
> [ X-Trace: 844698250/21103
> [ Newsgroups: alt.business.import-export
> [ X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; U; 16bit)
> [
> [ I have an urgent requirement for 2MMT of high-grade
> [ coking coal in the very short term(3 months). Destination
> [ is Asian port. Please e-mail response or fax to
> [ (914)268-5361.
>
> Prem Thomas usually uses the following
> Internet Service Provider to post his attacks
> against astrologers and groups of people he hates:
>
> Internet Communications Company (QED2-DOM)
> 12 Promenade
> New City, NY 10956
> US
>
> Domain Name: QED.NET
>
> Administrative Contact:
> Feinberg, Nick (NF39) nick@QED.NET
> 914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
> Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> Feinberg, Nick (NF106) nick@QED.NET
> 914-353-9290
> Billing Contact:
> Feinberg, Nick (NF39) nick@QED.NET
> 914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
>
> Record last updated on 14-Oct-96.
> Record created on 18-Oct-95.
> Database last updated on 1-Jan-98 05:14:40 EDT.
>
> Domain servers in listed order:
>
> NS1.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.2.51
> NS2.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.101.51
> NS3.NEW-YORK.NET 206.139.202.51
>
> Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
>
> === Exhibit <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com> ===========================
> [
> [ Path: . . . cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
> [ news.new-york.net!nonexistent.com!not-for-mail
> [ From: Prem Thomas <premone@qed.net>
> [ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,
> [ soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.religion.islam,
> [ alt.religion.hindu,alt.culture.hawaii,alt.crime,
> [ soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.activism
> [ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:58:13 UTC
> [ Message-ID: <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com>
> [
> [ [...] Your friggin' astrology is no more relevant to
> [ the 20th and 21st centuries than voodoo. . . .
> [ The salvation of the people of the sub-continent
> [ lies in the extermination of the blood-sucking vampires
> [ of your kind. . . . [...]
> [
> [ Prem
> [
> === End of Exhibit <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com> ====================
>
> Previous Posts
>
> [ Subject: An Enemy of Astrologers - Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> [ From: address.below.or@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
> [ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:41:10 UTC
> [ Message-ID: <astrology-0637.971215@news.mantra.com>
>
> Prem Thomas claims to be a Christian.
> He is evidently dedicated to eliminating astrologers from the world.
> Yes, his posts in newsgroups contain the line:
>
> "Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet"
>
> Here is the proof (newsgroup posts can be found at www.dejanews.com ) :
>
> Exhibit
>> From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:33:41 UTC
>> Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet
>> Message-ID: <3494B325.C1D79F38@ged.net>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyack-157.qed.net
> End of Exhibit
>
> There are numerous exhibits such as the one above.
>
> Jai Maharaj
> Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
> http://www.flex.com/~jai
> http://members.aol.com/Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> Previous post about Prem Thomas:
>
> [ Subject: NEWCOMERS PLEASE READ: Anti-Astrology People List
> [ From: jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
> [ Date: September 24, 1997
> [ Message-ID: <875127409.28238@dejanews.com>
> [
> [ (Please feel free to add to this
> [ list and change the "updated" time and date.)
> [
> [ List of People Who Post Anti-Astrology Messages
> [
> [ Updated September 24, 1997 at 1853 hours UTC
> [
> [ Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> [ Excerpts from his posts:
> [
> [ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS A "THIEVING PROFESSION"
> [ >
> [ > From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> [ > Subject: Re: GUJRAL-SHARIF MEET
> [ > Date: 1997/09/23
> [ > Message-ID: <EGyE06.6A2@nonexistent.com>
> [ > References: <874942020.24827@dejanews.com>
> [ > <fik9g95j0a.fsf@swap31-236> <874987007.12168@dejanews.com>
> [ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-63.qed.net
> [ > X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if this posting
> [ > is inappropriate
> [ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 875004773 11126 (None) [204.141.125.63]
> [ >
> [ > I received the news that astrologers were unable to agree on an
> [ > auspicious time (Muhoort) to recommend for the meeting between
> [ > the two. Looking at some of the data, I also do not recommend
> [ > any day this week (except Thursday, September 25 for this purpose).
> [
> [ > It's truly amazing that Indians at all economic levels continue to
> [ > "consult" this thieving profession despite being the living
> [ > embodiment
> [ > of it's irrelevance and ineffectuality.
> [ >
> [ > Prem
> [ >
> [ > mailto:premone@qed.net
> [
> [ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS "HUMBUG">
> [ >
> [ > From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> [ > Subject: Re: Planetary Pundit - Dr. K. Navaratnam
> [ > Date: 1997/08/23
> [ > Message-ID: <EFCzB4.IE7@nonexistent.com>
> [ > References: <astrology-1907.970818@news.mantra.com>
> [ > <EF8BI1.MHL@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
> [ > <astrology-1643.970822@news.mantra.com>
> [ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-51.qed.net
> [ > X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if
> [ > this posting is inappropriate
> [ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 872326334 20461 (None) [204.141.125.51]
> [ >
> [ > [...] Regardless of what Jai Maharaj says, the fact remains
> [ > that astrology is humbug. [...]
> [
> [
> [ Sumbitted by:
> [
> [ Jai Maharaj
> [ Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
> [ Om Shanti
>
> Here are tthree news items about other criminals like him:
>
> News item 1
> "ONLINE HATE DRAWS SENTENCE . . .
> "A 21-year-old college dropout who became the first
> person convicted of a federal hate crime committed in
> cyberspace received a one-year jail sentence . . .
> "U.S. District Judge Alicemarie Stotler Monday sentenced
> Richard Machado to one year in prison and ordered him to
> undergo counseling.
> [...]
> "Prosecutors said he sent e-mail messages to 59 Asian
> students at UCI, threatening to 'find and kill every one of
> you personally' and signing the missives 'Asian Hater.' . . ."
> [...] End of Excerpts
> - Reuters, Los Angeles, CA, USA, May 5, 1998.
>
> News item 2
> "EMAIL DEATH THREAT SPREADS
> "A death threat spam that frightened America Online
> members last week now has spread to Yahoo Mail.
> "The email message, which comes from an America Online
> return address, reads as follows:
> "'Hello, my name is Andy. I know where you live and I
> know where your kids sleep. If you dont [sic] call me within
> 24 hours im [sic] going to kill your kids.' It lists a phone
> number and adds: 'P.S. This is NOT a joke.'
> [...]
> "'We're working closely with the FBI,' Ryan said. 'This
> is a criminal investigation, and we're cooperating fully
> with the FBI.'
> [...]
> "AOL spokesperson Tricia Primrose said AOL has 'no idea'
> how many of its members received the threat.
> [...]
> "Threats made via the Net are not a new phenomenon. Earlier
> this year, a 21-year-old Los Angeles man was convicted for
> sending racist death threats via email to 59 Asian students at
> the University of California at Irvine. The case set a precedent
> in that it put online communications on par legally with
> telephone calls and postal mail. It also was significant because
> it addressed civil rights violations perpetrated online.
> [...]
> "Online hate speech also has been a subject that has plagued
> online services, families, and free speech advocates alike.
> - CNET News, July 6, 1998, available at:
> http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,23868,00.html
>
> News item 3
> "MAN CHARGED WITH CLINTON THREAT
> "Eugene, Oregon (AP) - A man accused of threatening to kill
> President Clinton during a visit here last June has been indicted
> by a federal grand jury.
> "Jeffery Loring Pickering, 49, is being held without bail in the
> Lane County Jail is scheduled to be arraigned Monday in U.S.
> District Court. If convicted, he could be sentenced to a maximum of
> 35 years in prison.
> "Pickering, who was indicted Friday, was arrested by the FBI
> last week in connection with telephone threats made in the days
> prior to Clinton's arrival on June 13.
> "The president came to Springfield to meet with victims, other
> students and families recovering from the shootings at Thurston
> High School which left two people dead and 22 wounded.
> "In three calls to the FBI and Eugene police, a man said Clinton
> would be shot during his visit and that bombs had been placed at
> various locations in Eugene and Springfield.
> "As the caller had accurately described, police found two bombs
> in a culvert near the Oregon Air & Space Museum.
> "The bombs were constructed of plastic pipe filled with
> explosive material and were equipped with grenade primers. The pipe
> sections were about 15 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. No other
> bombs were found.
> "Clinton's visit took place without incident. Ten days later,
> police played a tape of one of the telephone threats at a news
> conference and asked the public's help in identifying the caller.
> "Court records show that two of Pickering's brothers contacted
> the FBI and said he was the caller. His sisters and his mother
> later identified his voice as well.
> "The indictment charges Pickering with threatening to kill
> Clinton, using an explosive in making the threat, making threats
> that bombs were placed elsewhere, and with two counts of making
> false statements to FBI agents.
> "Days before the president's visit, Pickering told friends and
> relatives that if Clinton visited the area he would 'blow him
> away,' court documents show.
> - Asociated Press, Eugene, Oregon, October 24, 1998.
>
> In article <4b7ce004$0$12457$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> of course, you must know sanskrit, and meet the other criteria jai
>> maharaj
>> ji has pointed to.
>>
>>
>> Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
>> major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups,
>> who
>> are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
>> them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in
>> the
>> job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able
>> to
>> recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to
>> select
>> a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have,"
>> says
>> Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.
>>
>> India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans
>> to
>> hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in
>> the
>> fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its
>> hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000
>> campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched
>> about
>> 18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for
>> fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by
>> May-June 2010.
>>
>> Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now
>> fear
>> that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People
>> are
>> leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which
>> as
>> a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations,
>> Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup
>> just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will
>> get
>> more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility,
>> which
>> will pay off in the long run," says Divya.
>>
>> Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the
>> slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges.
>> "Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right
>> talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the
>> challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies
>> feels
>> that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they
>> hire
>> lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very
>> serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the
>> coming months.
>>
>> Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who
>> are
>> joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup
>> environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were
>> people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without
>> worrying
>> about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time
>> the
>> company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and
>> also
>> has some prospects in Anna University.
>>
>>

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:11 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Well said, harmony ji.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b7d87b9$0$12438$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> thank you jai maharaj ji.
> it is well known that sankrit is well suited for computers too, among host
> of other things. hindu employers value that. no wonder brown kirastani
> employers in india are falling behind which is very upsetting to anti-hindu
> brown kirastanistas of the usenet, who have gullible mallu for their
> waterboy.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Dhanyavaad for mentioning Sanskrit, harmony ji -- a previous article
> > appears below.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > [ Subject: SANSKRIT, THE MOST CONVENIENT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
> > [ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
> > [ Date: December 8, 1998
> >
> > Hindusim Today has published similar information
> > about Sanskrit about a decade ago. - Jai Maharaj
> >
> > A post from Anil Londhe follows:
> >
> > According to the Forbes magazine (July,1987), "Sanskrit is the
> > most convenient language for computer software programming".
> >
> > Sanskrit (means "cultured"), is the classsical language of
> > Hinduism. It is the oldest and the most systematic language in the
> > world. It is vast and versatile.
> >
> > In the words of Juan Mascaro, who has paid tribute to the
> > glory of the Sanskrit literature:
> >
> > "Sanskrit literature is a great literature. We have the great
> > songs of the Vedas, the splendor of the Upanishds, the glory of the
> > Bhagvat-Gita, the vastness(100,000 verses) of the Mahabaharat, the
> > tenderness and the herosim found in the Ramayana, the wisdom of the
> > fables and stories of India, the scientific philosophy of Sankhya,
> > the psychological : philosophy of Vedanta, the Laws of Manu, the
> > grammar of Panini and other scientific writings, the lyrical
> > poetry, and dramas of Kalidas. Sanskrit literature, on the whole,
> > is a romantic interwoven with idealism and practical wisdom, and
> > with a passionate longing for spiritual vision." Panini's Sanskrit
> > grammar, produced in about 300 BCE, is the shortest and fullest
> > grammar in the world. According to Sir Monier-Williams,
> > (Englishman, Sanskrit scholar 1819-1899):
> >
> > "The Panini grammar reflects the wondrous capacity of the hyman
> > brain which till today no other country has been able to produce
> > except India".
> >
> > (SourceThe Hindu Mind. Fundamentals of Hindu Religion and
> > Philosophy for all Ages. By Bansi Pandit. 1996)
> >
> > Courtesy of Anil Londhe
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
> > Billionaire financier J. P. Morgan used
> > a scientific astrologer and so can you!
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Please help stop death threats, hate crimes and terrorism:
> >
> > NEW YORK CHRISTIAN THREATENS TO KILL ASTROLOGERS
> >
> > Criminal Prem Thomas <prem...@ged.net> [now posts as "P. Rajah"]
> > of 8 Lakeland Avenue,Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA, tel 914-268-8634,
> > fax 914-268-5361,has published threats to mass-murder astrologers:
> >
> > Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
> >
> >
> > Commonly-available public records list
> > the address of the suspect as:
> >
> > Prem Thomas
> > 8 Lakeland Avenue
> > Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA
> > Fax 914-268-5361
> > Telephone 914-268-8634
> >
> > Prem Thomas himself advertised his Fax number:
> >
> > [ Subject: WTB: Coking Coal
> > [ From: Prem Thomas <premone@qed.net>
> > [ Date: 1996/10/07
> > [ Message-Id: <DywtCC.H4n@news2.new-york.net>
> > [ X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-55.qed.net
> > [ X-Trace: 844698250/21103
> > [ Newsgroups: alt.business.import-export
> > [ X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; U; 16bit)
> > [
> > [ I have an urgent requirement for 2MMT of high-grade
> > [ coking coal in the very short term(3 months). Destination
> > [ is Asian port. Please e-mail response or fax to
> > [ (914)268-5361.
> >
> > Prem Thomas usually uses the following
> > Internet Service Provider to post his attacks
> > against astrologers and groups of people he hates:
> >
> > Internet Communications Company (QED2-DOM)
> > 12 Promenade
> > New City, NY 10956
> > US
> >
> > Domain Name: QED.NET
> >
> > Administrative Contact:
> > Feinberg, Nick (NF39) nick@QED.NET
> > 914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
> > Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> > Feinberg, Nick (NF106) nick@QED.NET
> > 914-353-9290
> > Billing Contact:
> > Feinberg, Nick (NF39) nick@QED.NET
> > 914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
> >
> > Record last updated on 14-Oct-96.
> > Record created on 18-Oct-95.
> > Database last updated on 1-Jan-98 05:14:40 EDT.
> >
> > Domain servers in listed order:
> >
> > NS1.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.2.51
> > NS2.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.101.51
> > NS3.NEW-YORK.NET 206.139.202.51
> >
> > Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
> >
> > === Exhibit <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com> ===========================
> > [
> > [ Path: . . . cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
> > [ news.new-york.net!nonexistent.com!not-for-mail
> > [ From: Prem Thomas <premone@qed.net>
> > [ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,
> > [ soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.religion.islam,
> > [ alt.religion.hindu,alt.culture.hawaii,alt.crime,
> > [ soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.activism
> > [ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:58:13 UTC
> > [ Message-ID: <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com>
> > [
> > [ [...] Your friggin' astrology is no more relevant to
> > [ the 20th and 21st centuries than voodoo. . . .
> > [ The salvation of the people of the sub-continent
> > [ lies in the extermination of the blood-sucking vampires
> > [ of your kind. . . . [...]
> > [
> > [ Prem
> > [
> > === End of Exhibit <EIHBxL.1yn@nonexistent.com> ====================
> >
> > Previous Posts
> >
> > [ Subject: An Enemy of Astrologers - Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> > [ From: address.below.or@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
> > [ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:41:10 UTC
> > [ Message-ID: <astrology-0637.971215@news.mantra.com>
> >
> > Prem Thomas claims to be a Christian.
> > He is evidently dedicated to eliminating astrologers from the world.
> > Yes, his posts in newsgroups contain the line:
> >
> > "Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet"
> >
> > Here is the proof (newsgroup posts can be found at www.dejanews.com ) :
> >
> > Exhibit
> >> From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:33:41 UTC
> >> Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet
> >> Message-ID: <3494B325.C1D79F38@ged.net>
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyack-157.qed.net
> > End of Exhibit
> >
> > There are numerous exhibits such as the one above.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai
> > http://members.aol.com/Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Previous post about Prem Thomas:
> >
> > [ Subject: NEWCOMERS PLEASE READ: Anti-Astrology People List
> > [ From: jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
> > [ Date: September 24, 1997
> > [ Message-ID: <875127409.28238@dejanews.com>
> > [
> > [ (Please feel free to add to this
> > [ list and change the "updated" time and date.)
> > [
> > [ List of People Who Post Anti-Astrology Messages
> > [
> > [ Updated September 24, 1997 at 1853 hours UTC
> > [
> > [ Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> > [ Excerpts from his posts:
> > [
> > [ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS A "THIEVING PROFESSION"
> > [ >
> > [ > From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> > [ > Subject: Re: GUJRAL-SHARIF MEET
> > [ > Date: 1997/09/23
> > [ > Message-ID: <EGyE06.6A2@nonexistent.com>
> > [ > References: <874942020.24827@dejanews.com>
> > [ > <fik9g95j0a.fsf@swap31-236> <874987007.12168@dejanews.com>
> > [ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-63.qed.net
> > [ > X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if this posting
> > [ > is inappropriate
> > [ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 875004773 11126 (None) [204.141.125.63]
> > [ >
> > [ > I received the news that astrologers were unable to agree on an
> > [ > auspicious time (Muhoort) to recommend for the meeting between
> > [ > the two. Looking at some of the data, I also do not recommend
> > [ > any day this week (except Thursday, September 25 for this purpose).
> > [
> > [ > It's truly amazing that Indians at all economic levels continue to
> > [ > "consult" this thieving profession despite being the living
> > [ > embodiment
> > [ > of it's irrelevance and ineffectuality.
> > [ >
> > [ > Prem
> > [ >
> > [ > mailto:premone@qed.net
> > [
> > [ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS "HUMBUG">
> > [ >
> > [ > From: Prem Thomas <premone@ged.net>
> > [ > Subject: Re: Planetary Pundit - Dr. K. Navaratnam
> > [ > Date: 1997/08/23
> > [ > Message-ID: <EFCzB4.IE7@nonexistent.com>
> > [ > References: <astrology-1907.970818@news.mantra.com>
> > [ > <EF8BI1.MHL@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
> > [ > <astrology-1643.970822@news.mantra.com>
> > [ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-51.qed.net
> > [ > X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if
> > [ > this posting is inappropriate
> > [ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 872326334 20461 (None) [204.141.125.51]
> > [ >
> > [ > [...] Regardless of what Jai Maharaj says, the fact remains
> > [ > that astrology is humbug. [...]
> > [
> > [
> > [ Sumbitted by:
> > [
> > [ Jai Maharaj
> > [ Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
> > [ Om Shanti
> >
> > Here are tthree news items about other criminals like him:
> >
> > News item 1
> > "ONLINE HATE DRAWS SENTENCE . . .
> > "A 21-year-old college dropout who became the first
> > person convicted of a federal hate crime committed in
> > cyberspace received a one-year jail sentence . . .
> > "U.S. District Judge Alicemarie Stotler Monday sentenced
> > Richard Machado to one year in prison and ordered him to
> > undergo counseling.
> > [...]
> > "Prosecutors said he sent e-mail messages to 59 Asian
> > students at UCI, threatening to 'find and kill every one of
> > you personally' and signing the missives 'Asian Hater.' . . ."
> > [...] End of Excerpts
> > - Reuters, Los Angeles, CA, USA, May 5, 1998.
> >
> > News item 2
> > "EMAIL DEATH THREAT SPREADS
> > "A death threat spam that frightened America Online
> > members last week now has spread to Yahoo Mail.
> > "The email message, which comes from an America Online
> > return address, reads as follows:
> > "'Hello, my name is Andy. I know where you live and I
> > know where your kids sleep. If you dont [sic] call me within
> > 24 hours im [sic] going to kill your kids.' It lists a phone
> > number and adds: 'P.S. This is NOT a joke.'
> > [...]
> > "'We're working closely with the FBI,' Ryan said. 'This
> > is a criminal investigation, and we're cooperating fully
> > with the FBI.'
> > [...]
> > "AOL spokesperson Tricia Primrose said AOL has 'no idea'
> > how many of its members received the threat.
> > [...]
> > "Threats made via the Net are not a new phenomenon. Earlier
> > this year, a 21-year-old Los Angeles man was convicted for
> > sending racist death threats via email to 59 Asian students at
> > the University of California at Irvine. The case set a precedent
> > in that it put online communications on par legally with
> > telephone calls and postal mail. It also was significant because
> > it addressed civil rights violations perpetrated online.
> > [...]
> > "Online hate speech also has been a subject that has plagued
> > online services, families, and free speech advocates alike.
> > - CNET News, July 6, 1998, available at:
> > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,23868,00.html
> >
> > News item 3
> > "MAN CHARGED WITH CLINTON THREAT
> > "Eugene, Oregon (AP) - A man accused of threatening to kill
> > President Clinton during a visit here last June has been indicted
> > by a federal grand jury.
> > "Jeffery Loring Pickering, 49, is being held without bail in the
> > Lane County Jail is scheduled to be arraigned Monday in U.S.
> > District Court. If convicted, he could be sentenced to a maximum of
> > 35 years in prison.
> > "Pickering, who was indicted Friday, was arrested by the FBI
> > last week in connection with telephone threats made in the days
> > prior to Clinton's arrival on June 13.
> > "The president came to Springfield to meet with victims, other
> > students and families recovering from the shootings at Thurston
> > High School which left two people dead and 22 wounded.
> > "In three calls to the FBI and Eugene police, a man said Clinton
> > would be shot during his visit and that bombs had been placed at
> > various locations in Eugene and Springfield.
> > "As the caller had accurately described, police found two bombs
> > in a culvert near the Oregon Air & Space Museum.
> > "The bombs were constructed of plastic pipe filled with
> > explosive material and were equipped with grenade primers. The pipe
> > sections were about 15 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. No other
> > bombs were found.
> > "Clinton's visit took place without incident. Ten days later,
> > police played a tape of one of the telephone threats at a news
> > conference and asked the public's help in identifying the caller.
> > "Court records show that two of Pickering's brothers contacted
> > the FBI and said he was the caller. His sisters and his mother
> > later identified his voice as well.
> > "The indictment charges Pickering with threatening to kill
> > Clinton, using an explosive in making the threat, making threats
> > that bombs were placed elsewhere, and with two counts of making
> > false statements to FBI agents.
> > "Days before the president's visit, Pickering told friends and
> > relatives that if Clinton visited the area he would 'blow him
> > away,' court documents show.
> > - Asociated Press, Eugene, Oregon, October 24, 1998.
> >
> > In article <4b7ce004$0$12457$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> of course, you must know sanskrit, and meet the other criteria jai
> >> maharaj
> >> ji has pointed to.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> >> major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups,
> >> who
> >> are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> >> them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in
> >> the
> >> job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able
> >> to
> >> recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to
> >> select
> >> a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have,"
> >> says
> >> Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.
> >>
> >> India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans
> >> to
> >> hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in
> >> the
> >> fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its
> >> hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000
> >> campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched
> >> about
> >> 18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for
> >> fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by
> >> May-June 2010.
> >>
> >> Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now
> >> fear
> >> that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People
> >> are
> >> leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which
> >> as
> >> a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations,
> >> Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup
> >> just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will
> >> get
> >> more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility,
> >> which
> >> will pay off in the long run," says Divya.
> >>
> >> Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the
> >> slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges.
> >> "Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right
> >> talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the
> >> challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies
> >> feels
> >> that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they
> >> hire
> >> lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very
> >> serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the
> >> coming months.
> >>
> >> Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who
> >> are
> >> joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup
> >> environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were
> >> people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without
> >> worrying
> >> about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time
> >> the
> >> company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and
> >> also
> >> has some prospects in Anna University.
> >>
> >>
>
>

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TOPIC: MINK OF SRK FACES NEAR EMPTY HALLS, SAYS BUSINESS STANDARD
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/0634c1a890b355f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 2:46 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded article from S. N.

Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:12 PM

MINK of SRK faces near empty halls says Business Standard

Highlights

1. Theatre occupany dipped to 30-35% weekdays as against 90-100% on
weekend.

2. Occupancy falling in non-metros and smaller cities.

3. MINK grossed Rs 90 crs globally but note only 47 crs from India.
SRK was always more popular with NRI's.

4. SRK is a marketer par excellence. If he had not created this
controversy would Indians & NRI's gone to watch the movie! May be it
might have met the fate of another Karan Johar produced film Kurban
which bombed at the box office.

5. Politicians and Media might want to learn how to see thru gimmicks
by Bollywood to get FREE Publicity for their movies.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/mnik-faces-near-empty-halls/386071/

MNIK faces near-empty halls

Aminah Sheikh
Mumbai February 18, 2010, 0:58 IST

Theatre occupancy for My Name is Khan dipped to 30 to 35 per cent in
weekdays after 90 to 100 per cent occupancy over its release weekend.

The movie had attracted considerable pre-release publicity owing to a
decision by the Shiv Sena not to allow its screening in Mumbai and
Maharashtra as a fallout of comments Shah Rukh made about hiring
Pakistani players for his Kolkata Knightriders cricket team.

"The movie did very well on the weekend due to the curiosity factor,
with virtually packed houses, but weekday collections fell to around
35 per cent," said a senior executive of BIG Cinemas which has
exhibition halls across the country.

"It is still holding on in the metros but is falling in the non-
metros and smaller cities because of the serious nature of the movie
and the subject. We hope it will pick up again this weekend," he
added.

The movie deals with the struggles of a Muslim boy, who suffers from
autism, in the US post 9/11. Confirming the drop in hall occupancy,
Vishal Kapur COO of Fun Cinemas, said, "The movie is suited for a
multiplex audience rather than single screens and that is where it
has lost out."

Weekday occupancies for My Name is Khan are much lower than it was
for 3 Idiots, he added.

Fox Star Studios, which holds the worldwide distribution rights, said
the movie has grossed Rs 90 crore globally in the first three days,
the same as Aamir Khan's blockbuster

3 Idiots which also grossed Rs 90 crore in the first three days
(excluding Rs 9 crore earned from paid previews).

A closer look at the earnings break-up, however, shows that My Name
is Khan grossed Rs 47 crore from Indian box-office in its opening
weekend, almost half 3 Idiots' first weekend earning of Rs 70 crore.

The Shah Rukh Khan-starrer has done better overseas, grossing Rs 43
crore compared to Rs 20 crore for 3 Idiots in opening weekend
earnings.

"The movie has performed well overseas but is certainly not the
highest Bollywood grosser so far," said film trade analyst Komal
Nahata, adding that weekday occupancies have fallen almost 60 per
cent.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/mnik-faces-near-empty-halls/386071/

End of forwarded article from

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: SECURITY STRENGTHENED IN MUMBAI, MAHARASHTR [MUSLIM TERRORISM]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/db5e6a7f95239493?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 3:56 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

I once took the time to proofread a news item in the Times of India
and sent the corrected version back to them, adding suggestions. An
editor replied, screaming: "Do you think that we don't know what we
are doing!"

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b7c227f$0$12460$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> would the dumb media of india ever note it.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> >I used "STRENGTHENED" in my original post's subject header.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b779339$0$12424$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> it is unconstitutional to beef up in view the law that bans cow
> >> slaughter?
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > Security beefed up in Mumbai, Maharashtra
> >> >
> >> > IANS
> >> > The Indian Express
> >> > First Published: 14 Feb 2010 12:29:33 AM IST
> >> >
> >> > Mumbai - Maharashtra Chief Minister Ashok Chavan said late Saturday
> >> > that security in Mumbai and other parts of the state had been
> >> > tightened in the wake of the Pune terror attack in which nine people
> >> > died.
> >> >
> >> > The leaves of all policemen across the state have been cancelled
> >> > following the attack, in which 32 people were injured.
> >> >
> >> > "The number of fatalities is likely to go up," said a grim chief
> >> > minister after chairing a meeting of top officials late Saturday.
> >> >
> >> > "Security has been tightened at all important installations,
> >> > including the airport, railway stations and other places in Mumbai,"
> >> > said Chavan as he emerged from the meeting.
> >> >
> >> > "Security has been tightened at all the locations which were surveyed
> >> > by Lashkar-e-Taiba operative David Headley last year in Mumbai, Pune
> >> > and other places," he added.
> >> >
> >> > Referring to a central alert in October 2009 warning of a possible
> >> > terror strike in Pune, Chavan said that there was complete co-
> >> > ordination between the state and central security apparatus.
> >> >
> >> > But he declined to comment on the possibility of involvement of known
> >> > terror groups as being responsible for the blast.
> >> >
> >> > "Until I get the feedback from the investigators at the site, I would
> >> > not like to comment on this as it has major ramifications," Chavan
> >> > said.
> >> >
> >> > Pune Police Commissioner Satyapal Singh confirmed late Saturday night
> >> > that nine people, including five women, perished in the blast.
> >> >
> >> > At team of the Force One commando left from Mumbai Saturday to assist
> >> > the Mumbai and Pune Anti-Terrorist Squads, the NIA, the CBI and the
> >> > NSG teams in the investigations.
> >> >
> >> > A team of experts from the Pune cantonment of the Southern Army
> >> > Command has also reached the site of the blast, the first major
> >> > terror blast in the country after Nov 26, 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.
> >> >
> >> > Chavan also announced compensation of Rs.100,000 for the next of kin
> >> > of each of the deceased and Rs.50,000 for the injured.
> >> >
> >> > Earlier Deputy Chief Minister Chhagan Bhujbal admitted that though
> >> > alerts have been regularly received, these did not specify the time
> >> > or location of the possible terror attacks.
> >> >
> >> > Besides Maharashtra the central government has issued an advisory to
> >> > all states to tighten security after the blast.
> >> >
> >> > In Mumbai, security was tightened at the Chhatrapati Shivaji
> >> > International Airport, the Mumbai Port, the BARC, BSE, important
> >> > railways terminals and stations, luxury hotels, important government
> >> > buildings, VVIP areas of south Mumbai and the beaches dotting the
> >> > city.
> >> >
> >> > Elsewhere in Maharashtra, security has been beefed up at the Sai Baba
> >> > Temple in Shirdi, the Pandharpur Temple and other major places of
> >> > historical, religious and tourism significance.
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?title=Security%20beefed%20up%20
> >> in%20Mumbai,%20Maharashtra&artid=ZD07b1uAC84=&type=
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
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TOPIC: India ranks 124th globally in economic freedom
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:17 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Bharat needs to be ruled by a Hindu government.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b7cd79c$0$12442$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> indian economy under congressi rule
>
>
> India ranks 124th globally in economic freedom
>
> Washington: With an economic freedom score of 53.8, India has been rated the
> 124th freest economy in the world, according to the 16th annual Index of
> Economic Freedom, released by The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street
> Journal.
>
> Based on this global survey countries were also ranked according to their
> regions and India is ranked 24th out of 41 countries in the Asia-Pacific
> region. India's score is 0.6 point lower than last year as a result of
> declines in freedom from corruption, business freedom, and monetary freedom.
> The country's overall score is below the world average of 59.4 on a scale of
> 100.
>
> The level of economic freedom in the world dipped slightly in 2009,
> according to the index released Wednesday as Hong Kong and Singapore
> finished 1st and 2nd in the rankings for the 16th straight year.With
> Australia in 3rd place and New Zealand moving up to number 4, the
> Asia-Pacific region boasts a clean sweep at the top
>
> This is only the second time in the history of the Index that average scores
> for countries measured in successive years have declined.
>
> According to the index one reason for the dip in world economic freedom was:
> To help ward off recession, many governments launched unsuccessful attempts
> to spend their way to prosperity.
>
> India continues to move forward with market-oriented economic reforms and
> has achieved average growth of about 9 percent over the past five years, the
> report said.
>
> "Despite sluggish progress in reducing onerous non-tariff barriers, the
> trade regime has gradually become more open, with its average tariff rate
> decreasing," it said but "The state still plays a major role in over 200
> public-sector enterprises."
>
> "Public debt is 80 percent of GDP, leaving little fiscal room to react to
> the global downturn. India's overly restrictive regulatory environment does
> not facilitate entrepreneurship or realization of the economy's full
> potential," the report said.
>
> "Corruption is pervasive, and the judicial system remains inefficient and
> clogged by a large backlog of cases. Labour freedom is especially weak, with
> rigid regulations a costly impediment to further economic growth and job
> creation."
>
> Europe registered three top 10 placements: Ireland, Denmark and Switzerland.
> As a cautionary tale about the dangers of government intervention, the
> United Kingdom dropped out of the top 10 for the first time in Index
> history.
>
> The United States also dropped significantly, to 8th place. Both countries
> increased government spending, and each lost more than 2.0 points on its
> Index score.
>
>

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TOPIC: Detect forged documents: Courtesy Indian techie
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:19 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Kick the Christian missionaries out of Bharat!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b7cce79$0$12436$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> i guess the religious govt of the oz can't send missionaries to india on
> false pretenses.
>
> Detect forged documents: Courtesy Indian techie
> Monday,25 January 2010
>
>
> Bangalore: Those using fake and forged documents in the U.S. can now be
> traced easily, thanks to a new software developed by Dr. Gaurav Gupta from
> Kurukshetra in Haryana. The software and methodology developed by Dr. Gupta
> helps to identify and quantify imperfections and lead investigators to the
> devices used for producing fake documents and digital signatures.
>
> According to Dr. Gupta, the perpetrators of such crimes were ignorant of the
> fact that the imperfection was unique to each device. "The system will help
> us locate the source and even the scanner and printer used to commit the
> forgery," he said. Recently, the young 30-year-old scientist was honored by
> the former President, Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, during the 97th Indian Science
> Congress at Thiruvananthapuram.
>
> According to him, the basic idea of this software is that no two printing
> machines or scanners will give identical outputs. "There will be several
> differences in residual patterns which can be found on the suspected
> document in identical machines. These patterns are results of mechanical
> imperfection of each device which are not visible to naked eye," he adds.
>
>

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 9:40 am
From: "harmony"

the missionaries are not needed or wanted in europe. where would they go?
most countries have aging population, and you know the missionaires wouldn't
have any interest there:):):)

the funny thing is it is the aged who you would think would have real
interest in things metaphysical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kirastanism always makes me laugh.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100218O1SB56c7SA3t4BA6p4MxymS@K8tVH...
> Kick the Christian missionaries out of Bharat!
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b7cce79$0$12436$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> i guess the religious govt of the oz can't send missionaries to india on
>> false pretenses.
>>
>> Detect forged documents: Courtesy Indian techie
>> Monday,25 January 2010
>>
>>
>> Bangalore: Those using fake and forged documents in the U.S. can now be
>> traced easily, thanks to a new software developed by Dr. Gaurav Gupta
>> from
>> Kurukshetra in Haryana. The software and methodology developed by Dr.
>> Gupta
>> helps to identify and quantify imperfections and lead investigators to
>> the
>> devices used for producing fake documents and digital signatures.
>>
>> According to Dr. Gupta, the perpetrators of such crimes were ignorant of
>> the
>> fact that the imperfection was unique to each device. "The system will
>> help
>> us locate the source and even the scanner and printer used to commit the
>> forgery," he said. Recently, the young 30-year-old scientist was honored
>> by
>> the former President, Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, during the 97th Indian
>> Science
>> Congress at Thiruvananthapuram.
>>
>> According to him, the basic idea of this software is that no two printing
>> machines or scanners will give identical outputs. "There will be several
>> differences in residual patterns which can be found on the suspected
>> document in identical machines. These patterns are results of mechanical
>> imperfection of each device which are not visible to naked eye," he adds.
>>
>>
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:14 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Most Christian missionaries are interested in nabbing children for sex and international sex trade.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b7d7ba4$0$26945$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> the missionaries are not needed or wanted in europe. where would they go?
> most countries have aging population, and you know the missionaires wouldn't
> have any interest there:):):)
>
> the funny thing is it is the aged who you would think would have real
> interest in things metaphysical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> kirastanism always makes me laugh.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Kick the Christian missionaries out of Bharat!
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b7cce79$0$12436$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> i guess the religious govt of the oz can't send missionaries to india on
> >> false pretenses.
> >>
> >> Detect forged documents: Courtesy Indian techie
> >> Monday,25 January 2010
> >>
> >>
> >> Bangalore: Those using fake and forged documents in the U.S. can now be
> >> traced easily, thanks to a new software developed by Dr. Gaurav Gupta
> >> from
> >> Kurukshetra in Haryana. The software and methodology developed by Dr.
> >> Gupta
> >> helps to identify and quantify imperfections and lead investigators to
> >> the
> >> devices used for producing fake documents and digital signatures.
> >>
> >> According to Dr. Gupta, the perpetrators of such crimes were ignorant of
> >> the
> >> fact that the imperfection was unique to each device. "The system will
> >> help
> >> us locate the source and even the scanner and printer used to commit the
> >> forgery," he said. Recently, the young 30-year-old scientist was honored
> >> by
> >> the former President, Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, during the 97th Indian
> >> Science
> >> Congress at Thiruvananthapuram.
> >>
> >> According to him, the basic idea of this software is that no two printing
> >> machines or scanners will give identical outputs. "There will be several
> >> differences in residual patterns which can be found on the suspected
> >> document in identical machines. These patterns are results of mechanical
> >> imperfection of each device which are not visible to naked eye," he adds.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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TOPIC: why aus is so violent
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:15 am
From: "harmony"

"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>> it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a
>> mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
>> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
>> and straighten out the mess.
>>
>> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>>
>>
> What about India? Your racist government believes they are superior just
> because they lie and say they have had more lives. The racist barbaric
> caste system is even worse then our system. Hypocrite.

lookie here, dear. no opposition political party in india is makin an issue
of things you are cookin up in well known predictable kirastani style. but
we all know for a fact that the aus opposition is making an issue of
religion there. there.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 1:46 pm
From: "Arindam Banerjee"

It is a rotten state ruled by a mediocre foreign (and white) woman with very
many corrupted or stupid sycophants in her tow. She is voted to power
because the population thinks that the right-wing alternative (harmony-class
bundurrHindus supported by jBm-class bundurrJews and their rich and
unscrupulous WASP slaves) is worse.

> Your racist government believes they are superior just because they lie
> and say they have had more lives.

The government of India has had nothing good or useful to do with genuine
Indians for nearly a thousand years. Because India has been enslaved for
nearly a thousand years, and the process continues.

> The racist barbaric caste system is even worse then our system.

heh-heh, why do oz racists have issues with the Indian caste system? Caste
is not racist at all - it is endogamous and very useful. For it allows the
retention of skills, group values and unity, in an atmosphere of personal
freedom, and quite irrespective of state authority.

What exactly is the oz system? As far as I can see, it is based upon a
bunch of cynical clowns on TV or radio making wisecracks.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

Note: bundurr means monkey
Check out:
http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMInt.htm
http://adda-enterprises.com/htnwebsite/home.htm
http://adda-enterprises.com/peramangk/goldmine.htm

Hypocrite.
>

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 3:32 pm
From: "Chris Diesel"

"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Jyifn.8513$pv.6275@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:78adnZPymp1F5-HWnZ2dnUVZ_jkAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>> it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a
>>> mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
>>> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
>>> and straighten out the mess.
>>>
>>> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>>>
>>>
>> What about India?
>
> It is a rotten state ruled by a mediocre foreign (and white) woman with
> very many corrupted or stupid sycophants in her tow. She is voted to
> power because the population thinks that the right-wing alternative
> (harmony-class bundurrHindus supported by jBm-class bundurrJews and their
> rich and unscrupulous WASP slaves) is worse.
>
>> Your racist government believes they are superior just because they lie
>> and say they have had more lives.
>
> The government of India has had nothing good or useful to do with genuine
> Indians for nearly a thousand years. Because India has been enslaved for
> nearly a thousand years, and the process continues.
>
>> The racist barbaric caste system is even worse then our system.
>
> heh-heh, why do oz racists have issues with the Indian caste system?
> Caste is not racist at all - it is endogamous and very useful. For it
> allows the retention of skills, group values and unity, in an atmosphere
> of personal freedom, and quite irrespective of state authority.

You accuses Australians of being racist and them claim the Indian Caste
system is not racist. Now I've heard it all, that would have to be one of
the most stupid statements I've ever heard! Presumably, maintaining India's
child work force, killing your wife over a dowry dispute, throwing a wife
onto her husband funeral pyre and killing female babies are all ok with you
too?

> What exactly is the oz system? As far as I can see, it is based upon a
> bunch of cynical clowns on TV or radio making wisecracks.

I can see you just plan stupid and ignorant.

> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:31 pm
From: "Arindam Banerjee"

"Chris Diesel" <diesel@noaddress.com.au> wrote in message
news:4b7dce1b$0$6092$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:Jyifn.8513$pv.6275@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:78adnZPymp1F5-HWnZ2dnUVZ_jkAAAAA@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>> it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a
>>>> mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
>>>> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
>>>> and straighten out the mess.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What about India?
>>
>> It is a rotten state ruled by a mediocre foreign (and white) woman with
>> very many corrupted or stupid sycophants in her tow. She is voted to
>> power because the population thinks that the right-wing alternative
>> (harmony-class bundurrHindus supported by jBm-class bundurrJews and their
>> rich and unscrupulous WASP slaves) is worse.
>>
>>> Your racist government believes they are superior just because they lie
>>> and say they have had more lives.
>>
>> The government of India has had nothing good or useful to do with genuine
>> Indians for nearly a thousand years. Because India has been enslaved for
>> nearly a thousand years, and the process continues.
>>
>>> The racist barbaric caste system is even worse then our system.
>>
>> heh-heh, why do oz racists have issues with the Indian caste system?
>> Caste is not racist at all - it is endogamous and very useful. For it
>> allows the retention of skills, group values and unity, in an atmosphere
>> of personal freedom, and quite irrespective of state authority.
>
> You accuses Australians of being racist

When I say "oz racists" I mean just that. I don't accuse all Australians of
being racist, I say that there are such things as oz racists. It does NOT
mean that all Australians are racists. You have comprehension issues, I am
afraid.
There are most certainly horrible racists in Australia, and the Herald-Sun
has just published the photos of two white racists who beat a sweet harmless
black Sudanese boy to death just because he was black and they wanted a beat
him to death simply because he was black. Since these two racists are now
in jail, put there by decent Australians who form the majority that is,
there is no question of this majority supporting the racist murderers.
Life here in Australia is rather less violent on the whole. Going by my own
experience, that is. But then, I have led a comparatively privileged life
here, and the new immigrants are facing much more hardship than I had to.
Of course, any non-white can be murdered by the racists, as this guy was.
But in India, too, you could be shot or blown up by Sikh terrorists, Muslim
fanatics, ideologically driven Naxals, police shootings, religious riots,
wars, etc. Then there are the ordinary criminals, who while comparatively
non-violent are nevertheless not exactly peaceful. Then there are diseases,
famines, floods, strikes, gheraos, processions, snakes... no end to
excitement of a perilous nature in India.
Just the luck of the draw - if you get the short straw, you are up for it!

> and them claim the Indian Caste
> system is not racist.

It is not racist, as I said. It is however endogamous, meaning that one
marries within the caste. Within the caste you may have black, brown,
yellow, white complexions - these complexions corresponding ot various races
are all acceptable in principle but the fairer the colouring the higher the
chances of appreciation. So the caste system is not racist - but if the
racists want to maintain their racism, caste is a useful system to follow.
That way, a white caste could remain white, by being endogamous (whites only
marrying whites). Thus, oz racists (did I mean you?) need not knock the
caste system, as it should suit them. In other words, caste is not racist
but racists could use caste to maintain their racism. Do you understand?
This is an important point.

> Now I've heard it all, that would have to be one of
> the most stupid statements I've ever heard!

Please read what I have written a bit more carefully, if you can.

> Presumably, maintaining India's
> child work force,

No one maintains that. The child work force exists because they would
starve to death if they did not work. India has not been free for a
thousand years, and there are many evils that result from such a lack of
freedom.

> killing your wife over a dowry dispute,

Not all Indians do that. The foreign racists-bigots would not be screaming
about India's huge population if wives got murdered over dowry disputes!
Anyway, dowry has vanished in those areas where it was strong, thanks to the
killing of females fetuses. Now it is difficult to get girls, around Delhi!
Your thinking is dated. Technological advances have had a vast impact upon
social norms.

> throwing a wife
> onto her husband funeral pyre

In the rare cases of satidaaha (the VOLUNTARY self-immolation of a pure and
noble woman) there was no question of throwing the wife on the funeral pyre.
She would ascend the pyre, in full wedding finery, and perish with the head
of her husband in her lap, in the ultimate display of love and sprituality,
seeking reunion in the afterlife. Only the most noble women were allowed
this privilege. The high quality of family life that Indians enjoy, comes
as a direct consequence of such feminine self-sacrifice.

> and killing female babies are all ok with you
> too?

Not okay with me, for I have two daughters who are now independent and
happy. Yes the Delhi and female doctor told us that we could have them
killed, but we were shocked instead. But why should racist-bigots object to
Indians killing female babies, there will surely be less brown and pagan
Indians as a result? Evidently, emotion beats self-interest! :) :)

>> What exactly is the oz system? As far as I can see, it is based upon a
>> bunch of cynical clowns on TV or radio making wisecracks.
>
> I can see you just plan stupid and ignorant.

I am the greatest genius of all time. Proofs below:

http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMInt.htm
http://adda-enterprises.com/htnwebsite/home.htm

>> Cheers,
>> Arindam Banerjee
>
>
>

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 7:37 am
From: "harmony"

the positive side is: it wasn't a keral hooch.

A dozen French winemakers and traders have been found guilty of a massive
scam to sell 18 million bottles of fake Pinot Noir to a leading US buyer.

The judge in Carcassonne, south-west France, said the producers and traders
had severely damaged the reputation of the Langedoc region.

The 12 more than doubled profits passing off the wine to E and J Gallo under
its Red Bicyclette brand.

E and J Gallo was not involved in the court case.

In a statement on its website it said it was "deeply disappointed" to learn
its supplier, Sieur d'Arques, had been found guilty of selling falsely
labelled French Pinot Noir.

'No complaints'

The court ruled the 12 had deliberately and repeatedly mislabelled the wine
as one of the more expensive varieties of grape in order to get a better
price from E and J Gallo.

The Red Bicyclette Pinot Noir single grape wine is hugely popular in the
United States.

French Customs officers spotted the swindle and called in investigators.

They found the amount of Pinot Noir being sold to Gallo was far more than
the region produced.

Some of those in the scandal were not even Pinot Noir producers.

The judge handed out suspended jail sentences ranging from one month to six
months for the most prominent wine trader and ordered all the defendants to
pay fines.

The fines ranged from 1,500 euros ($2,050; £1,300) to the top figure of
180,000 euros ($247,050; £156,500) for Sieur d'Arques. The judge said that
the accused together made seven million euros in profits from the scam.

The judge said: "The scale of the fraud caused severe damage for the wines
of the Languedoc for which the United States is an important outlet."

A lawyer for Sieur d'Arques, Jean-Marie Bourland, told Agence France-Presse:
"There is no prejudice. Not a single American consumer complained."

A lawyer for three other defendants argued his clients had delivered a wine
that had Pinot Noir characteristics.

E and J Gallo said it was no longer selling any of the wine to its
customers.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 9:48 am
From: "harmony"

"HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b7a2511$0$12459$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:qZoen.7986$pv.7518@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4b7a09ea$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Tbnen.7974$pv.3213@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4b79f58a$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:20100215ZSGnmJknxULiq51KH9lxD12@VwA0H...
>>>>>>>>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>>>>>>>>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of
>>>>>>>>> Australians want to stop non christian migrants to come here to
>>>>>>>>> OUR Country. They are also the reason why some take it on themself
>>>>>>>>> to bash up foreigners.
>>>>>>>>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a few things here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to equate the informed criticism of the misdeeds of the folks
>>>>>>>> associated with a controversial mideast deity with national
>>>>>>>> interests seems a little bizzare, no? think,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, our culture and laws are based on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> think renaissance, dear - the biggest nail on christianity that
>>>>>> started the real western civilization that has the appeal.
>>>>>> would you rather live in the era of witch hunt, stake burning,
>>>>>> vatican rule?
>>>>>> sordid hisotry of christiainity is the reason for separation of it
>>>>>> from state (which includes laws)
>>>>>> culture? look at hollywood for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would you be a christian today if your forebears
>>>>>>>> somewhere up the line weren't forced - most likely against their
>>>>>>>> better judgement - to join in by xtian crusaders?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ancient history.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you want the repeat of bad history, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> btw, the real critics of the church folks are your own white
>>>>>>>> democrats in your country, many of are elected by your own people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The church folks or the religious who misuse religion for their own
>>>>>>> gain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same thin.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are too stupid and with your hate against Christians you have no
>>>>> idea.
>>>>> At least the British didn't tell the Indians to cloose their temples.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you are not very bright:
>>>> Thousands of churches face closure in ten years
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1362709.ece
>>>
>>>
>>> All religions go through a phase.
>>> The same with Muslims and Hindus
>>> Look at Indonesia which used to be a Hindu nation.
>>> While Christian churches close in Europe many more open up in Africa.
>>>
>>
>> it ain't a phase dear. it is the widespread education which makes people
>> think independently and hence reject the silly (and partisan at that)
>> notions of church, rendering them irrelevant, as witnessed in europe.
>> africa is largely uneducated and poor, hence very vulnerable to the
>> church inc. - like the historic europe was.
>> there are many western junk businesses that send western waste to the 3rd
>> world like the waste metal, waste plastic waste paper - and waste
>> religion.
>>
>> china has it right: it keeps the pope and missionaries and mullas out;
>> and look how smartly it is progressing.
>>
>> in old days christianity took over because of its army of extreme
>> brutes - the main reason why you and so many millions are christians
>> today. the oz political party is trying to recapture the "glory" of those
>> brutes.
>>
>
> Idiot. I have been living in many countries under many Governments for
> over 70 years.
> Sure, religion is declining in Europe. Perversion, moral degradation
> breakdown of families and greed is increasing proportionally.

well, the church is the frontal part of it.
the pope apologized for church's moral degradation in ireland just this
week.
the pope had been dodging this for years, but now comes around only with a
view to save his ship, not out of conviction but to do damage control.
with all due respect your age sir - and i do respect that - you surely
couldn't have missed the tens of stories a day of church turpitude that jai
maharaj ji brings to the newsnet.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:45 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b7c1532$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b7a2511$0$12459$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >>
> >> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >> news:qZoen.7986$pv.7518@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> >
> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:4b7a09ea$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> >> >>
> >> >> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:Tbnen.7974$pv.3213@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:4b79f58a$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
> >> >>>>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >>>>>> Om Shanti
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of
> >> >>>>> Australians
> >> >>>>> want to stop non christian migrants to come here to OUR Country.
> >> >>>>> They
> >> >>>>> are also the reason why some take it on themself to bash up
> >> >>>>> foreigners.
> >> >>>>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> a few things here:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> to equate the informed criticism of the misdeeds of the folks
> >> >>>> associated with a controversial mideast deity with national
> >> >>>> interests
> >> >>>> seems a little bizzare, no? think,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> No, our culture and laws are based on it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> think renaissance, dear - the biggest nail on christianity that
> >> >> started
> >> >> the real western civilization that has the appeal.
> >> >> would you rather live in the era of witch hunt, stake burning, vatican
> >> >> rule?
> >> >> sordid hisotry of christiainity is the reason for separation of it
> >> >> from
> >> >> state (which includes laws)
> >> >> culture? look at hollywood for it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> would you be a christian today if your forebears
> >> >>>> somewhere up the line weren't forced - most likely against their
> >> >>>> better
> >> >>>> judgement - to join in by xtian crusaders?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ancient history.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> you want the repeat of bad history, right?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>> btw, the real critics of the church folks are your own white
> >> >>>> democrats
> >> >>>> in your country, many of are elected by your own people.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The church folks or the religious who misuse religion for their own
> >> >>> gain?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> same thin.
> >> >>
> >> > You are too stupid and with your hate against Christians you have no
> >> > idea.
> >> > At least the British didn't tell the Indians to cloose their temples.
> >> >
> >>
> >> you are not very bright:
> >> Thousands of churches face closure in ten years
> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1362709.ece
> >
> > Also, attendance in Christian churches is way down around the world. I say
> > again:

> > Shut down Christian churches to solve most of the problems.
> > Christian priests rape children and promote hate. - Jai Maharaj

> china has done it; and results have been great.
> of course, you don't have to have a tyrinically regime to it for you, all
> you need is common sense.

Common sense is one of the first things Christianity takes away from its followers.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 10:00 am
From: "harmony"

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100113J22L6UFXoq4BhObu0dF8vbw@SIh26...
> In article
> <1cabc95e-cc1f-4ed6-bdd7-8ec7f122b56b@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
> Mirza Ghalib <mghalib01@yahoo.com> posted:
>>
>> On Jan 13, 8:19=A0am, Satish Kumar <sk_c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > India, Bangladesh in talks over extradition treaty: Sheikh Hasina
>> > 13 January 2010, 08:03pm IST
>
>> So India made a pact with terrorists to combat terrorism. That
>> is pathetic!
>
> It is similar to the US giving billions to Muslim Pakistan to fight Muslim
> terrorism.
>

isn't that known as extortion?
the line in the sand seems to have moved to: either you are with us or our
money.

> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 3:37 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

INFOSYS SCHOLARSHIPS

Thursday, February 18, 2010

Infosys Scholarship for Poor Students

PLEASE SPREAD THE NEWS

Infosys Scholarship for Poor Students who completed 10th std.-Pls.
Read & Forward to benefit the needy

Dear Friends,

If you have come across any bright students coming from poor
financial background who have finished their 10th standard this year
(April 2009) and scored more than 80%, please ask them to contact the
NGO-Prerana (supported by Infosys foundation). The NGO is conducting
a written test and those who clear the test will be eligible for
financial help for their further studies.

Please ask the students to contact the people mentioned below to get
the form

#580, Shubhakar,
44th cross,1st 'A' main road,
Jayanagar 7th block Bangalore
Mob no - 9900906338 (saraswat i)

Mr. Shivkumar (9986630301) - Hanumanthnagar office

Ms. Bindu (9964534667) - Yeshwantpur office

Even if you don't know anyone, please pass on this info.
Someone might be in need of this help desperately

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 3:52 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Corrupted Indian media

Thursday, February 18, 2010

If the fence eats away the field, who is to save the crop?
The fourth estate is becoming yet another chamcha of a corrupt regime
with little care for national interests. Who will cure the corrupt
Indian media?

S. Kalyanaraman

http://www.thehindu.com/2010/02/18/stories/2010021852821000.h

Advertising, Bollywood, Corporate power

P. Sainath
Thursday, February 18, 2010

Issues today have to be dressed up in ways certified by the corporate
media. They have to be justified not by their importance to the
public but by their acceptability to the media, their owners and
sponsors.

That the terrible tragedy in Pune demands serious, sober coverage is
a truism. One of the side-effects of the ghastly blast has been
unintended, though. The orgy of self-congratulation that marked the
media coverage of just about everything since January is now in pause
mode. Maybe the flak they copped for their handling of the November
2008 Mumbai terror blasts has something to do with it. But there is,
so far, some restraint. At least, relative to the meal they made of
the 2008 blasts.

Otherwise, through January and early February, the media stood up
bravely for freedom of expression and some other constitutional
rights you've never heard of. They slew the demons of lingual
chauvinism and worse. And they're just spoiling for a fight with any
other enemy of our proud democracy. Just so long as they can keep
Bollywood in central focus.

Every issue is now reduced to a fight between individuals, heroic,
villainous or just fun figures. So the complex issues behind the
shunning of Pakistani cricketers by the Indian Premier League are
reduced to a fight between Shah Rukh Khan and Bal Thackeray. (As one
television channel began its programme: "Shah Rukh stands tall. His
message to the nation ..."). The agonies of Bundelkhand are not about
hunger and distress in our Tiger Economy. They are just a stand-off
between Rahul Gandhi and Mayawati. The issues of language and
migrations in Maharashtra are merely a battle between Rahul Gandhi
and Uddhav Thackeray. And the coverage is all about who blinked
first, who lost face.

The devastating rise in food prices (let's skip the boring factors)
and the mess in agriculture are a face-off between Prime Minister
Manmohan Singh and Agriculture Minister Sharad Pawar. The pathetic
squabble within the Samajwadi Party is virtually a television serial.
A blow-by-blow account of Amar Singh's valiant bid to retain his
honour against Mulayam Singh's yahoos. (Indeed, some Hindi channels
have begun using the language of theatre to report it -- Act II,
Scene II. And there was one programme which Mr. Amar Singh ended
humming verses from his favourite film song). The Bt brinjal story
had mostly only one villain -- Union Environment Minister Jairam
Ramesh. He had no visible adversary unless you pose the humble
Brinjal as the hero. But that won't work for television. The other,
more sinister heroes in this media story preferred to function from
behind the scenes, plying newspapers and channels with faked data and
false information. Hell hath no fury like a powerful corporate
scorned, as the Minister is learning.

Issues? The same media that passionately fought for freedom of
expression for a month from mid-January had billed the 2009 Lok Sabha
poll as one without issues. The country was actually burning with
them, but they didn't make good television either. More accurately,
the dominant media hadn't the slightest intention of covering them
with any sincerity. The story of rising food prices remains one of
the worst reported -- no matter how much space it has been given.
Sure, there have been exceptions -- as in the case of some
outstanding reports on Bundelkhand. But they've been just that.
Exceptions.

If these last six weeks have been about freedom of expression, we
have neither. Or, at best, a twisted freedom and a tortured
expression. There is little freedom for thousands of journalists in
the corporate media and the few editors who still believe we ought to
be doing a better job of informing the public on the key issues of
our time. There's very little freedom for readers or viewers, too.
For days on end, it didn't matter which television channel you
switched to, it was SRK on all of them. When that movie drew to a
close, the 'Rahul Gandhi storms Sena den' film was released and
sustained. A visit of some hours produced days of footage. But with
the end of Mr. Gandhi's visit to Mumbai, it was back to Shah Rukh
Khan. Of course, viewers had the freedom to choose, which sets us
apart from totalitarian states. They could choose any channel, from
among many, to watch SRK saying exactly the same thing, at the same
time. And they will be free to choose again when the figure is
Amitabh Bachchan or Aamir Khan.

If what we've watched on critical issues these past weeks is
expression, we're through scraping the barrel. We're drilling holes
in its bottom.

Many corporate-owned media houses have sacked hundreds of journalists
and non-journalist staff since late 2008. Hundreds of other
journalists have suffered wage cuts. Of course, the 'right to know'
of readers and viewers does not extend to this information. Why scare
the poor lambs? And how can you tell them the truth about that while
everyday crowing about the once-again booming economy? It might lead
audiences to ask that dull, boring question: "If things are so good,
why are you axing so many people?" Answering that means revealing the
interests the corporate media have in the fate of the stock market.
It means talking about their need to keep the shares of the companies
they are linked to (or have heavily invested in) afloat and buoyant.
That is regardless of how rotten they are within. No matter how their
own shares in those companies were obtained. And no agonising over
how unethical the means used to keep them heated. This was in part
behind the fatwa issued by some newspapers to their staff banning the
'R' word last year. Recession is what happens in the United States.
In India, it was a slowdown -- and it's already turning around
brilliantly. The hundreds of sacked and ruined staff have little
freedom to speak of. Even the professional communicators within them
cannot tell their own audiences their story. Cannot tell them they
were laid off, let alone tell them why.

Leave aside escaping a recession, India Shining is back. The cover
story of a leading weekly gushes over the fantastic 'rural
resurgence' that is, in fact, saving all of us. Farmers are doing
just great. Drip, micro-sprinkler, and other micro irrigation, the
stories in it suggest, played a major role in this hidden-from-the-
human-eye revival. This resurgence is seen more in urban media than
in rural India. And the proliferation of such stories across the
media spectrum reflects, in part, the strenuous media efforts of a
major Maharashtra-based company. A corporate group that spends a
fortune on propaganda and whose interests in this line of irrigation
are pushed by some of the most powerful members of the Union Cabinet.
Oddly, stories such as these come out even as the government's own
projections for growth in agriculture are dismaying.

The main 'rural resurgence' story hit the stands the same day the
National Crime Records Bureau officially brought the 2008 data for
farm suicides on to its website. The 16,196 suicides that year
brought the tally of farmers' suicides since 1997 to 199,132. That's
the largest single, sustained wave of such suicides ever recorded in
history -- anywhere. Guess nobody told them about the resurgence.
Farmers in 2008 did know of that year's loan waiver, but it didn't
stop large numbers of them from taking their lives.

The 'rural resurgence' story comes after any number of the
government's own committees, commissions and reports suggest that it
revise poverty figures upwards. Whether it's the Suresh Tendulkar
committee, the BPL Expert Group, or earlier the National Commission
for Enterprises in the Unorganised sector. Or a U.N. study which
reports that 34 million more Indians remained poor or joined their
ranks in 2008 and 2009, because of the 'slowdown.' That is, 34
million more than would have met that fate prior to the 2008 crisis.
It matters little if Census data show us that 8 million cultivators
quit agriculture between just 1991 and 2001. (That is, on average,
well over 2,000 a day, every day for 10 years.) Or that the 2011
Census just months from now will show us how many more have fled
agriculture since then, un-seduced by the rural resurgence. Never
mind the facts. One giant private irrigation company stands to make
its already huge fortune bigger. Good for growth.

The ABC of Indian media roughly translates as Advertising, Bollywood
and Corporate power. Some years ago, the 'C' would have been cricket,
but that great sport is fast becoming a small cog in the large wheel
of corporate profit. (In the IPL, the ABC of media converge, even
merge.) And, of course, everything but everything, has to be
bollywoodised. To now earn attention, issues have to be dressed up
only in ways certified by the corporate media. They have to be
justified not by their importance to the public but by their
acceptability to the media, their owners and sponsors. The more
entrenched that ABC gets, the greater the danger to the language of
democracy the media so proudly claim to champion.

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 3:56 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded message from Ashok Chowgule

Thursday, February 18, 2010

Super govt? Sonia Gandhi to lead advisory body

When the Shiv Sena-BJP alliance ruled in Mumbai, Balasaheb Thackeray
openly said that he had the remote control. The concerned citizens
in India roared in protest, and condemned the statement saying it was
against the principles of democracy, and so on.

The present remote control of the government in Delhi is actually
applauded by the same concerned citizens. Perhaps it is because the
remote control decided to hear her innner voice, and made a big
sacrifice in refusing to sit on the prime minister's seat!

Namaste
Ashok Chowgule

Super govt? Sonia Gandhi to lead advisory body

By Nitin Sethi & Subodh Ghildiyal
The Times of India
February 13, 2010

The Sonia-Gandhi led National Advisory Council which set an ambitious
social sector agenda for UPA 1 is going to be back in action. The
Congress president who quit it because of the Office-of Profit
controversy has finally agreed to head the NAC again, setting the
state of what can be both an institutionalised goad as well as
oversight for UPA's flagship schemes.

The Congress brass have already begun to scout for policy wonks to
sit on the Council, and the expectation is that a full-scale NAC may
be in place by April to start scrutinizing the works for food
security legislation, besides keeping a watch on the flagship
schemes, existing as well as those which may be launched now.

"It will be Planning Commission for social sector", said a UPA
functionary familiar with the discussions on what should be the ambit
of the NAC-II.

Congress leadership has begun shortlisting names for Sonia's new team
at the proposed Council. One of Sonia's party colleagues is likely to
be on the panel.

The agenda for the revived NAC seems to be in order, with Food
Security Act, Communal Violence Bill and the proposed national law on
health and water seen as priorities.

Sonia quit the NAC after the Opposition alleged that she had violated
the `office of profit' principle, like Jaya Bachchan who lost her
Rajya Sabha seat on the ground that she had breached the rule
requiring MPs not to hold offices of profit during their tenure.

She also resigned her Lok Sabha seat to successfully seek a fresh
election from Rae Bareli.

The party leadership decided against restoring the NAC when Manmohan
Singh started his 2nd innings as it was apprehensive of the petitions
challenging the 'office of profit' law pending before the Supreme
Court.

Her nod comes after much persuasion from colleagues and legal experts
that there are no issues involved in her return to the crucial job.

FSA is the mascot of UPA-2's "aam aadmi" plank, like NREGA was in its
previous version.The Communal Violence Bill has been flagged as next
big thing on the party's policy menu. The proposed law gained
traction when the ATR on the Liberhan Commission probing Babri
demolition spoke of it.

The key laws are likely to lend strong weightage to the NAC in its
second avatar.

Resentment among civil society activists that improvisations in
MNREGA were diluting the focus of job scheme and a failure of the
government to allay those fears have raised hackles in the party. The
rising criticism over delay of 'aam aadmi' measures like FSA and
Communal Violence Bill could see NAC leadning on the government to
speed up..

It was a shrewd political strategy which led to the creation of NAC
in 2004. While the government had a professed "aam aadmi" face, it
was felt the party could appropriate the social dissent by partnering
the civil society in policy planning.

The role played by NAC in the enactment of the Right to Informatoin
Act, National Rural Employment Gurantee Scheme- a big pro-rural poor
measure-and the Forest Rights Act to give land titles to traditional
forest dwellers, helped Congress with its pro-poor branding.

In the absence of the Council, Congress leadership let the ministries
work on policy issues, with senior leaders being asked to formulate
drafts as party inputs.

But the gaps stayed, at least in perception. There were probing
questions when the otherwise historic Right to Education came under
fire from disability activists who said the law did not take care of
the handicapped.

It is also felt that the NAC maintains a continued dialogue with the
society through activists on board which, given the contrast with
government's opaque ways, helps politically.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Super-govt-Sonia-Gandhi-to-lead-advisory-body/articleshow/5566597.cms

End of forwarded message from Ashok Chowgule

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 4:06 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Central New York: Bishop Should Be Investigated Following Arrest of
Pedophile Priest

Young man steps forward with story of being molested by Episcopal
Priest Ralph Johnson

News/Commentary

By David W. Virtue
http://www.virtueonline.org
Thursday, February 18, 2010

[Bishop Gladstone (Skip) Adams] Arrest came swiftly this week for
former Episcopal priest Fr. Ralph Elwood Johnson. Johnson was charged
with multiple counts each of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse,
indecent assault, and corruption of a minor.

The arrest of this former 82-year old Episcopal priest in the Diocese
of Central New York and the possible cover-up of the priest's sexual
activities by Episcopal Bishop Gladstone (Skip) Adams years earlier
beg for double justice.

The first justice should be whatever the courts determine Johnson
should receive for his vile conduct. The second is what should happen
to Bishop Adams who tried to conceal the priest's behavior and, in
the process, attempted to depose a godly priest for being a
whistleblower.

The truth is the bishop should be investigated by the national
church. He should face the same charges brought against the now
inhibited and deposed former Bishop of Pennsylvania, Charles E.
Bennison who was forced to step down following a trial and conviction
on charges that he covered up his brother's sexual abuse of a female
minor.

The story begins in 2006 when the now former rector of St. Paul's
Church in Owego, Fr. David G. Bollinger, claimed in a lawsuit that
Bishop Gladstone Adams retaliated against him for raising allegations
against then St. Paul's rector, Ralph E. Johnson.

Fr. Bollinger, now retired, said he was punished by the church for
being a whistleblower and removed from his position. The bishop
inhibited Bollinger six times and drew up Presentment charges against
him. Fr. Bollinger prevailed in an ecclesiastical court when the
diocese threw out the charges.

The lawsuit alleged the local Episcopal Diocese failed to act on an
accusation of sexual abuse and retaliated against the former rector
who brought up the complaint. Bollinger was vindicated by the courts.
Bollinger suffered a serious heart attack at the time and retired.
Adams still kept his job.

Everybody in the diocese wanted it all to just go away. Sex abuse
scandals rarely do, however, as the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland
has learned to its dismay. Scandal can erupt years later with
horrible consequences. Over the weekend, Pope Benedict XVI took 24
Irish bishops to task for the sex abuse crisis in that country,
calling the scandal a "heinous crime."

The Diocese of Central New York tried to block Fr. Bollinger from
performing his duties at St. Paul's when the scandal first erupted.
The diocese claimed that Bollinger misused money while rector at the
church. Bollinger said the diocese invented the claim as a means of
retaliation.

The win by Bollinger in church court brought this response by his
attorney, "It's further vindication of the position we've taken
Bollinger claims that years earlier, he alerted Episcopal officials
to Johnson's alleged sexual misconduct, but was rebuffed by
Gladstone." Johnson later resigned from the priesthood amid
allegations that he abused a young boy in the 1970s.

VOL believes that a thorough investigation and appropriate charges
should be brought against Bishop Adams similar to those brought
against Bishop Bennison.

* * *

The following story was sent to VOL after Ralph Johnson, former
rector of St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Owego, was arraigned this
week by the police on 15 counts of involuntary deviate sexual
intercourse, a felony; 15 counts of indecent assault, a misdemeanor;
and 15 counts of corruption of minors.

The incidents, representing about 15 encounters between the suspect
and the alleged victim, happened at Johnson's home in Gibson
Township, Susquehanna County, between 1992 and 1995, according to a
police report.

VOL believes that the heinousness of these crimes should be made
public and Bishop Adams should be investigated for his lack of
inaction in dealing adequately with Johnson. The abused man has asked
to remain anonymous.

Exclusive to Virtueonline

By Anonymous
Wednesday, February 17, 2010

This started when I couldn't live with this burden any more dealing
with my molestation as a kid.

I googled Ralph Johnson's name and had a suspicion that his name was
out there.

I found all the articles (see links below) on how Fr. David Bollinger
was oppressed by the Central New York Diocese and how they did not
give him any credence and what they did to defame him.

For years, I hid this because it was virtually impossible to talk
about. Father Johnson always told me that no one would ever believe
me and that his actions were righteous. He would imply that it is his
word against mine and the CNY Diocese loves him, so good luck.

Funny thing, when I used to stay at Ralph's house, Michael Jackson
was going this convictions and Ralph defended Jackson, stating that
"the boy probably wanted it and his parents are jealous." I felt so
convicted that I contacted the State Troopers in Gibson, PA and gave
them a report and contacted the CNY Diocese. That same night, I
received an email from Fr. John Martinichio requesting that I call
him immediately. I contacted Fr. John and he told me that there were
allegations about Ralph Johnson and he told me over the phone that
Ralph Johnson was ordered to resign his ordination as a priest.

That was a lie, Ralph voluntarily resigned his orders.

Fr. John was not at all concerned about my well-being but he was
avid, first telling me that I should be reminded of my legal rights
and that it was probably beyond the statute of limitations, so in
essence, good luck. He didn't offer any counseling or any other kind
of assistance at that time nor did he seem to care. He also reminded
me that Ralph no longer worked for the Diocese so any implication of
him (Martinichio) would have no bearing on the CNY Diocese. This was
clearly an effort to exonerate himself and remove any guilt he might
have.

I was very disappointed in this phone call and felt victimized by it.
I felt that I was treated like a criminal for reporting abuse.

The following day, I contacted someone who used to be affiliated with
the Diocese and came to find out that this person had known of my
travels to Father Johnson's over the weekend in the 1990s and
reported it to the CNY Diocese in 2004.

Neither my family nor myself had ever received any sort of contact
from the CNY Diocese inquiring about the incident. To me what was the
most hurtful thing is the fact that they didn't care. This person
told me to contact the Diocese that I currently live in and open an
investigation.

I felt incredibly scared and cried for about an hour after that phone
call. I contacted the Diocese where I now reside and they opened an
investigation. They asked me a few questions and then sent it back to
the CNY Diocese. The person who worked with contacted me back. She
was rude about the fact that I had made contact with her and the
diocese but she did not yell at me. She was callous and showed that
she did her part and then offered up a 'leave me alone' mentality.
Later that night Fr. John contacted me and yelled at me for not
bringing it to his attention. He said he was going to make
arrangements for counseling.

The fact is that it took an outside source, another Diocese, before
they would offer any sort of counseling.

When I talked to my counselor, there was a sense of urgency from the
Diocese to rush through the counseling process so they could wash
their hands of it all and be done with it.

Last week I sent an email to Fr. John Martinichio but have heard
nothing back from him. I believe he owed me a simple, 'I hope you're
doing ok. I am sorry to see things went wrong,' but nothing at all.

I believe that the dioceses' pathetic damage control that made it
into the newspapers from the office of the Bishop, is just that,
pathetic. They do not have anyone else's concerns or intentions at
heart except to protect themselves.

As I think about all this I am not sure what is more nightmarish, my
horrific childhood experience or dealing with the CNY Diocese.

I plead with you if you are reading this, if you are a victim of
Ralph Johnson, please come forward and alert the authorities. I urge
you to, because this pedophilia pandemic that exists in our society
needs to stop, especially by those whom claim to speak for God and
those most coveted people who aim to bring us peace and love in our
lives -- the church.

The following stories regarding Ralph Johnson can be accessed here:

http://www.wbng.com/news/local/84532757.html

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=12103

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=12052

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6355

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4098

More at:
http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=12129

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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