Friday, October 31, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 2 topics

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 31 10:09PM

http://www.dawn.com/news/1140070/the-dark-side-of-lollywood
The dark side of Lollywood
By M. Saeed AwanUpdated 3 days ago
Nannah and Nazli in the film Dewar Bhabhi
Some of Lollywood's mindboggling mysteries and tragedies created quite
a stir at the time they first occurred but with the passage of time
the hype died down and the memory of these ill-fated celebrities whose
lives were unceremoniously cut short abruptly faded away into the
murky annals of time.
 
Here, Images on Sunday revives their luster and presents a concise
list of Lollywood superstars who suffered unfortunate circumstances
and succumbed to mysterious deaths.
 
Niggo
 
Niggo was an attractive young woman who impressed all those she came
across with her excellent dancing skills. She was chosen by all the
Punjabi filmmakers of her time to perform classic mujra dance numbers
in their films which were equivalent to the 'item' numbers in
present-day films. Niggo, thus, was the first and foremost choice for
the mujra girl.
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Like other successful film industries around the world, Lollywood too
is plagued by mysterious deaths, unsolved murders and unexplained
tragedies!
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
While working in the film Qasu (1972) produced by Khawaja Mazhar, she
fell in love with the producer and they got married soon after. The
marriage sparked fury in Niggo's family (according to the old
tradition of Lahore's Shahi Mohalla no girl can marry or travel
without her family being compensated financially).
 

Dancer Niggo was the first choice of filmmakers for the classic mujra
girl.
When all attempts to bring her back proved futile, Niggo's mother
pretended to be terminally ill and begged Niggo to come and see her
one last time. Upon her visit, the mother and some close family
members brainwashed Niggo into believing that her husband was not
right for her and her family. She succumbed to family pressure and
refused to return to her husband's home.
 
An unsuspecting and utterly confused Khawaja Mazhar dispatched his
production controller, called Mamma, to bring the situation under
control and pave the way for Niggo's return. Even music director
Manzoor Ashraf, who had Niggo's ear at the time when the love affair
was in full bloom, could not convince her to return to her husband's
home.
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
After Nannah started delivering flops and fell on hard times
financially, Nazli started to lose interest in him as well. He
allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself with a shotgun in
Lahore on June 2, 1986. However, the actual circumstances leading to
Nannah's death remain a mystery to this day.
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Then came the fateful day when a furious Khawaja Mazhar reached the
red light area and opened fire with a Sten Gun (a popular choice of
firearm in those days) and killed his wife Niggo on the spot. The news
of her murder spread like wildfire since such an incidence within the
industry was unheard of during those days. Niggo's mother vowed
revenge, and Khawaja Mazhar was sentenced to life imprisonment by a
court of law. Naturally the media had a heyday during the very public
trial. After completing his sentence, Khawaja Mazhar died a natural
death and was buried in his home town in Gujranwala.
 
Nannah
 
Rafi Khawar aka Nannah's performance was widely appreciated in the
first PTV comedy series, Alif Noon with Kamal Ahmed Rizvi.
 
Early in the career, he used to play minor roles in Punjabi movies
since in the presence of Munawwar Zareef and Rangeela it was difficult
for him to make place for himself in Lollywood. However, all that
changed after the film Ziddi (1973) and later on with the Urdu film
Naukar (1975). He began to be paired more frequently in comic roles
with Tammana Begum in Urdu movies, playing the role of a father,
grandfather or servant.
 
He then landed a chance to play the male lead in Tehka Pehlwan (1979)
the same year his film Dubai Chalo directed by Haidar Chaudhry became
a super-hit.
 
Despite the dominance of Sultan Rahi and action films, the mostly
comic act of Nannah and Ali Ejaz (of Dubai Chalo fame) gained immense
popularity in the first half of the '80s, and were seen in more than
50 movies in the main lead. In the films of that era, Sultan Rahi was
usually paired with Anjuman, Ali Ejaz with Mumtaz and Rani, and Nannah
with Nazli.
 
Nannah and Nazli became romantically involved and were often seen
together in public. The best proof of their love on film can be seen
in the song Vekh meri baanh tap di mundia, Aakhian rehndiyan mast
mast,Mera kar le koi bandobast, and also in Ve yari tori na, Ve mukh
methon moree na (Tehka Pehlwan).
 
According to an inside source, money was never an issue with Nannah
during his love affair with Nazli. His celebrity status was at an
all-time high and he was delivering hits left, right and centre. He
even forced his producers to cast Nazli with him in all his films.
Nazli made the most of the opportunity and the two became inseparable.
But after Nannah started delivering flops and fell on hard times
financially, Nazli started to lose interest in him as well.
 
Nannah allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself with a shotgun
in Lahore on June 2, 1986. A witness, producer Jamshaid Zafar,
narrates that there was a pool of blood in the room and it was a truly
horrific scene, something that appeared to be right out of a mystery
crime film. However, the actual circumstances leading to Nannah's
death remain a mystery to this day. There were also rumours that he
had decided to give away all his property to actress Nazli which sent
alarm bells ringing within his family.
 
Sultan Rahi
 
 

Sultan Rahi's sudden death dealt a terrible blow to Punjabi films and
it was a loss from which the industry never fully recovered.
The legendarily prolific Sultan Rahi worked in over 703-plus Punjabi
films and 100 Urdu films. I personally witnessed him working on three
film sets in a single day. After shooting one scene at Evernew
Studios, he would hurriedly move to Bari Studios adjacent to Evernew
for the next film shot. After spending almost three to four hours on
different sets, he would then move to Shahnoor Studios where another
shooting crew would be anxiously waiting for him.
 
The best thing about Rahi was his immense commitment to work and his
pleasant demeanor when dealing with the low-paid production crew.
 
Above everything else, he was a sure thing, someone who could recover
the producer's investment. During the span of his film career, he won
almost 160 awards. Some of his major films include Maula Jatt,Sher
Khan, Chan Veryam, Babul Sadqay Tere, Sharif Badmash,Basheera and
Wehsi Gujjar. Among other works of charity, he is also accredited of
having a mosque built in Bari Studios and also financing a film for
junior artists. Some of his best pairing in films was with actresses
such as Aasiya, Anjuman and Saima.
 
On January 9, 1996, he was returning late at night from Islamabad when
his car's tyre deflated near Samanabad Chungi close to Gujranwala on
Main G.T. Road. Taking advantage of the darkness and deserted
surroundings, some men approached the vehicle and opened fire on him.
Rahi sustained serious injuries and was rushed to the DHQ Hospital in
Gujranwala where he breathed his last.
 
Nadra
 
She had a sparkling element to her dazzling beauty coupled with
brilliant acting skills. She dominated the Lollywood screen for eight
years, acting in both Punjabi and Urdu movies. Besides acting she was
a woman of gentle demeanour and was respected widely among colleagues.
She was often found making generous charity donations to film
technicians and their families.
 

When Nadra first entered the studios, she arrived in the most
expensive car at that time which she personally owned.
Besides films, she also used to perform at private functions and it is
rumoured that she once earned Rs5.2 million (52 lacs) for a single
night's mujra. Uptill then, film star Naina was rumored to have made
Rs5.6million (56 lacs) likewise. Like Nadra, she also succumbed to a
similar fate.
 
"Jiss waqt Nadra ne studio main pehla qadam rakha, to woh uss time ki
mehngi tareen car mein studios aaye thi. Warna to zyada tar adakarain
dosron ki cars ya rickshaw/taxi mein studio pohonchti theen," (When
Nadra first entered the studios, she arrived in the most expensive car
at that time which she personally owned. Back then aspiring actresses
usually arrived at the studios in other people's cars or by
rickshaws/taxis) remembers Guddu of Guddu Film Archive.
 
Due to Nadra's ethereal good looks, a lot of affluent and
well-connected people were also quite eager to find favour with her.
Someone close to Nadra at the time told this writer that once during a
trip to London, she had withdrawn money from a bank which was
transferred from the Emirates.
 
She also started a property buying business with her husband which led
to a misunderstanding and conflict between them. In 1995, she was
gunned down while leaving a restaurant, and while some suspicion did
fall on her husband the police investigation gave no results. No
arrests were ever made by the authorities in connection to her murder.
 
Nadra's death dealt a severe blow to Lollywood producers who had
signed her in their forthcoming movies. She left a definite and
lasting impact on the industry during her brief career span.
 
Yasmeen Khan:
 
Shamshad alias Yasmeen Khan was born in Peshawar in 1950 and she
shifted to Karachi in the early '60s where she launched her film
career by playing a lead role in the first ever hit Pashto movie
Yousaf Khan Sherbano released in December 1970.
 
When the Urdu action film Dulhan Ek Raat Ki was released in 1975, it
made the Pushto actors in the cast overnight stars, including Yasmeen
Khan who was featured in the excellently choreographed dance
number,Aaja aaja karle pyar, kehti hai suhani shaam. It made her into
a superstar and she was later cast in Punjabi movies as well, such as
Hathkari(1976) where she appeared in the song, Jawani meri bijli
toofan mera nakhra.
 

Shamshad started her film career as Yasmeen Khan from Karachi and as
the female lead in the first-ever hit Pashto film Yousuf Khan Sherbano
in 1970.
However, Yasmeen Khan distanced herself from the film industry when
vulgarity and obscenity crept into Pushto cinema, tarnishing the image
of true Pukhtun culture and identity.
 
Yasmeen's first marriage to film star Saqi ended in divorce. Later,
she married Khurram Bari, the owner of Bari Studios. Unfortunately,
the union also could not last long. A young man called Arifullah from
an affluent family had eyes only for Yasmeen and they got married and
shifted to Peshawar.
 
Yasmeen isolated herself from all kinds of showbiz activity and turned
to religion and charity. But Arif's parents refused to accept Yasmeen
as a daughter-in-law and disinherited Arif who was prone to gambling,
among other vices, and already had a first wife, something which
Yasmeen found out much later. She tried her best to make him alter his
ways but only ended up making him furious.
 
Sick of Yasmeen's attempts to reform him, on April 15, 1999 he killed
her and locked the door from outside. After two days, Yasmeen's body
was found and given a decent burial. It shocked everyone, especially
those in Lollywood, as they had great admiration for the lady.
 
Later, Arifullah was murdered while trying to get married a third
time. His parents didn't accept his dead body and his friends buried
him.
 
Andaleeb
 
She was picked up by Shahzad Rafiq for his film Goonghat (1996)
directed by Syed Noor which became a super hit. "I had seen her act in
a drama on PTV and was impressed by her acting skills," says Shahzad.
According to Syed Noor she was quite professional and it's not amazing
that she had relationship with Hanif Ghuman, an industrialist from
Sialkot.
 

Andaleeb was introduced in the film Ghoonghat and became the first
acid attack victim of the film industry.
"Even outside showbiz, girls have boyfriends but showbiz personalities
attract more attention so people try to cultivate a special bond of
intimacy with them," says Syed Noor aka Shahji.
 
Ghuman and Andaleeb used to meet frequently at various venues. After a
while, she lost interest in Hanif and tried to move on. Bent upon
revenge, he threw acid on her face in an attempt to disfigure her.
Afterwards, Andaleeb underwent extensive facial plastic surgery and
now leads a happily married life away from the showbiz spotlight.
 
Marvi
 
She belonged to the rare breed of actresses who made it to Lollywood
despite her Sindhi background and within a very short span of time
secured her place in tinsel town.
 
Marvi featured in just three or four films but impressed viewers and
filmmakers alike with her boundless acting talent.
 

Faisal Qureshi and Marvi in the film Marvi.
Cashing in on her good fortune, a film producer cast her as the female
lead in his production titledMarvi with actor Faisal Qureshi. However,
fate had something else in store for this fledgling and she had hardly
taken flight when her wings were clipped by a jealous lover who
fatally shot her near a traffic signal near Tariq Road, Karachi, on
August 25, 1998.
 
Her body remained in the car she was driving with no one willing to
help her until the authorities arrived at the scene of the crime. By
then it was already too late. Again, no arrests were made in
connection to her murder and it remains unsolved to date. Marvi proved
to be the actress' last film and it was released after her death.
 
Published in Dawn, Sunday Magazine, October 26th, 2014
habshi@anony.net: Oct 31 06:24PM

Very slow for the first hour and it should be trimmed to ten
minutes. until Deepika arrives onscene and then it is just a wonderful
musical movie.
Go to youtube to see the songs. Great hotel in Dubai where
most of it is filmed. Liked the penthouse with shark views.Looks like
becoming an all time blockbuster
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Thursday, October 23, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 2 topics

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
BV BV <bv8bv8bv8@gmail.com>: Oct 23 11:39AM -0700

Women's Rights in Islam
 
Islam is the sole religion that gave women her rights, these are so many and recorded in the Quran verses and the traditional sayings of the prophet, these rights are condensed in points here as holy texts, if all written, will take many pages.
 
Equality between man and women
 
Islam acquits Eve from the original Sin which lived through generation and women have to bear it. In Quran God has remitted this sin the moment it was committed.
 
Women have the same spiritual status as men in the eye of God.
 

 
Female Embryo's rights
 
A female embryo, like a male embryo, should be guarded against hereditary disease.
 
Females' rights in infantry
 
While in other religions the birth of a female is not always welcome, the birth of a female is celebrated in Islam.
 
Females like males should be given beautiful names.
 
Females like males are to be given love while still children without any preference of one sex over another as stated in the prophet's hadith.
 
Islam is against denigrating females in any way especially killing them during their infantry- an old custom practiced by the pagan Arabs.
 
Rights of Females over Parents
 
Females are to receive the due care and be brought up in the best way( God's reward for this is shielding parents against the hellfire and raising their ranks high up to that of the prophet as stated in the hadiths). Even Female slaves are to be taught, this is doubly rewarded by God.
 
Teaching females is mandatory in Islam.
 
A female(married or unmarried) has the right to inherit her father, mother, husband , her children, sisters and daughters( Note that Females in Judeo-Christianity inherit only from their parents in case no brothers are found)
 
A female is not to be killed in wars.
 
A female chastity is to be given high care.
 
Parents should not favor sons over daughters
 
A woman has the right to argue with men even with the prophet himself.
 
Women are equal to men as stated in the hadith" Women are sisters to men."
 
A woman, just like a man, can give someone the right of refuge and security among the Muslims.
 
Rights of Wives
 
A female has the right to choose her husband.
 
A wife has the right to manage her property and the husband should not take any of her property.
 
A wife is not responsible for spending on her family, it is not allowed for a husband to take a penny from her property.
 

 
A wife has the full right to her dowry ( The husband is not to take any from it )
 
A wife can divorce herself if she doesn't like her husband.
 
A husband is responsible for feeding, dwelling, taking the utmost care of his wife to the extent that raising a piece of bread to a wife's mouth will be rewarded by God)
 
A wife should be given her full right in bed and even such an act is rewarded by God because the husband and the wife are sinners if they commit adultery.
 
During menses, contrary to the holy Book, a woman can live among her family members and whoever touches her remains clean.
 
The best among the Muslims are those who are good to their wives.
 
As a Mother
 
To show how important is the obedience of mothers the prophet says "paradise is under the feet of mothers."
 
Though both the father and the mother are to be given the utmost care, a mother should be always at the top priority.
 
Mothers should always be given due care from her children
 
A son must not prefer his wife to his mother under any circumstances.
 
A Muslim should ask for his parent permission before joining the Muslim army, which is engaged in fighting.
 
Caring about parents is more preferred to fighting in the cause of God, if they are old and need care.
 
A mother, like father, is to be given the utmost care and be obeyed even if she is not a Muslim.
 
The rights of the divorced woman in Islam
 
The Faith of Islam has ordained certain financial and social obligations in the event of divorce, so as to discourage people from resorting to it.
 
Islam ordains that when a man divorces his wife, he must pay her the delayed dowry agreed upon in the marriage contract, in addition to the expense of her maintenance of food, drink and living quarters for a certain period of time, known as the " iddat ".
 
The custody of the children is granted to the mother until they grow up. In the event of her death or inability to look after her children, the custody of her children is granted to her relations.
 
The husband is legally and religiously charged with his children's financial maintenance, and for wet nurses to breast feed them even if their mother breast feeds them herself, as is stated in the following Quranic verse "And if they suckle your (offspring) give them their recompense "[1][12]
 
Rights of a widow
 
The whole of the Islamic society is responsible for financing her.
 
Widows are protected in Islam from their in-laws, but are forced and not protected in the Bible's NT and OT
 
As a widow
 
Allah (Glory be to Him) says in a Divine Hadith: "I only accept Salah from those who do it humbly to My Glory those who spend the day in mentioning me, and takes care of widows, the needy, and the wayfarer."
 
Dead mothers
 
Her children are to ask Allah for remitting her sins and ask Allah to have mercy on her.
 
Her children are to honor her relatives and friends.
 
Children can do righteous acts for them ( optional)
 
After one's mother dies, it is Sunnah to fulfill any vows that she had made, and to give charity and perform Hajj and 'Umrah on her behalf.
 
After she dies, it is also Sunnah to honour her by maintaining ties with those whom she used to keep in touch with, such as her relatives and friends.
 
 
 
http://www.quran-m.com/firas/en1/index.php/human/496-women-s-rights-in-islam,condensed.html
 
Thank you
bleachbot <bleachbot@httrack.com>: Oct 23 08:39PM +0200

You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Monday, October 20, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 20 06:48PM

This is contrary to sharia law where a Hindu girl is forced to
convert.
Saif Ali Khan: Intermarriage Is Not Jihad, It Is India
 
Written by | October 16, 2014 10:24 am
 
http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/intermarriage-is-not-jihad-it-is-india/
 

 
I am the son of a sportsman, I grew up in England, Bhopal, Pataudi,
Delhi and Mumbai, and I am more Indian than any Hindu or Muslim I know
because I am both. I wrote this piece not to comment on the masses or
the problems of communalism in India and its villages, but because
this is an issue that concerns my friends and their families.
 
It wasn't peacefully accepted by anyone, initially, when my parents
wanted to marry. The royals had their issues; the Brahmins theirs.
And, of course, extremists on both religious sides issued death
threats. But the marriage still happened — the fact that my
grandmother also had to fight to marry the not-as-wealthy and
therefore not-so-suitable nawab of Pataudimight have helped things
along. We grew up on real-life romantic stories about our elders
marrying for love and not worrying too much about tradition. And we
were brought up to believe that god is one, with many names.
 
 
 
Source: C Y Sasikumar
 
When Kareena and I married, there were similar death threats, with
people on the Net saying ridiculous things about "love jihad". We
follow whatever religion or spiritual practice we believe in. We talk
about them and respect each other's views. I hope our children will do
the same.
 
I have prayed in church and attended mass withKareena, while she has
bowed her head atdargahs and prayed in mosques. When we purified our
new home, we had a havan and a Quran reading and a priest sprinkling
holy water — no chances taken!
 
What is religion? What is faith? Does a perfect definition exist? I
don't know. But I know doubt. I'm intrigued by the politics of doubt.
Doubt gives us faith. Doubt keeps us questioning what keeps us alive.
If we become sure of something, then there is a danger of becoming
fanatical.
 
Religion needs to be separated from a lot of things. Our religions are
based on fear. The Old Testament spoke of a Promised Land for a
people, but there were people already living there. The problem is
still burning today. There have been too many atrocities committed in
the name of god.
 
I know good people are scared of marrying their daughters to Muslims.
They fear conversion, quick divorces, multiple marriages — basically,
it suits the boys a bit more than the girls. All this is undoubtedly
outdated. A lot of Islam needs tomodernise and renew itself in order
to be relevant. We also need a loud moderate voice to separate the
good from the evil. Islam today is more unpopular than it has ever
been. This is a great shame to me, as I have always thought of Islam
as the moon, the desert, calligraphy and flying carpets, the thousand
and one nights. I have always thought about it as a religion of peace
and submission. As I grew older, I saw religion twisted and used so
badly by men that I distanced myself from all man-made religion. I
choose to be as spiritual as I can be.
 
Anyway, I digress. The good news is that no one needs to convert from
their religion to get married. The Special Marriage Act, when
applicable, is the paramount law of the land. If you marry under this,
it is upheld over any religious law. It is truly secular.
 
The fabric of India is woven from many threads — English, Muslim,
Hindu and many others. A major concern in today's India is that we
keep deleting our past. To say Muslims don't have a role in India is
denying their importance and contribution. It is like saying women
don't have a part to play in India. Why do we need to deny Islam? It's
what we are. We come with our mix. To deny this is to cheat us of our
inheritance. I don't know what "love jihad" is. It is a complication
created in India. I know intermarriages because I am a child of one
and my children are born out of it. Intermarriage is not jihad.
Intermarriage is India. India is a mix.Ambedkar said the only way to
annihilate caste is intermarriage. It is only through intermarriage
that the real Indians of tomorrow can be truly equipped to take our
nation forward with the right perspective. I am the product of such a
mixed marriage and my life has been full of Eidand Holi and Diwali. We
were taught to doadaab and namaste with equal reverence.
 
It is sad that too much importance is given to religion, and not
enough to humanity and love. My children were born Muslim but they
live like Hindus (with a pooja ghar at home), and if they wanted to be
Buddhist, they would have my blessing. That's how we were brought up.
 
We are a blend, this great country of ours. It is our differences that
make us who we are. We need to get beyond mere tolerance. We need to
accept and respect and love each other.
 
We are most certainly not a secular country. The intention was to
become one and our Constitution has provided every framework to make
that possible. But, more than six decades on, we have still not
separated religion from the law. To make matters worse, different laws
apply to different people, making it impossible for us to think as
one. There are different laws for Hindus and different laws for
Muslims. This is bound to create trouble.
 
I think we should have one law for all Indians, a uniform civil code,
and we should all think of ourselves as one nation. All our religions
must come later and be by the way. Teach our children about god and
his thousand names, but first we must teach them respect and love of
their fellow man. That is more important.
 
I stopped believing in the Tooth Fairy first, then Santa Claus, and
finally, I really don't know what I feel about a personal god. But I
believe in love and in trying to be good and helping the world. I
don't always succeed and then I feel bad. My conscience is my god, I
think, and it tells me that that one tree in Pataudi near which my
father is buried is closer to god than any temple, church or mosque.
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Friday, October 17, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 17 07:33PM

Mad Jyotish wont tell you its made one of the highest collections Rs
300 crores $45m and still counting.
A must see film
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Wednesday, October 15, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 2 topics

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
alt.fan.jai-maharaj@googlegroups.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj): Oct 15 10:26PM

Movie Review: 'Bang Bang'
By Shubha Shetty-Saha
 
October 3, 2014
 
This is a remake of Hollywood film, 'Knight and Day', and
for some reason, we choose to make a dumber version of
the not-so-great-to-begin-with original film. . . .
 
Continues at:
 
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/movie-review-bang-bang/15653155
 
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
 
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
habshi@anony.net: Oct 15 09:46PM

Worlwide collections have passed an amazing Rs 300 crores , $45m
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Sunday, October 12, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 12 05:04PM

What a great pleasure listening to it , great Indian
instruments, in contrast to the heavy drum beats nowadays
 
http://youtu.be/XPMd5IlNTRM
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Thursday, October 9, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 2 topics

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 09 09:35PM

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-29502393
 
Haider: Why is 'Indian Hamlet' controversial?
Haider's story is set in Kashmir
Bollywood director Vishal Bhardwaj's Indian adaptation of Hamlet has
been hailed as "one of the most important movies of the year".
 
The director is known for his admiration of William Shakespeare's
works. He based his 2003 hit Maqbool on Macbeth and returned with
Omkara in 2006 as his adaptation of Othello.
 
But his third film, Haider, based on the English writer's work is
getting wider media attention due to its controversial backdrop.
 
The movie is set in Indian-administered Kashmir. In Bhardwaj's film,
Shahid Kapoor is Hamlet, Shraddha Kapoor is Ophelia, Tabu plays
Gertrude and Kay Kay Menon is Claudius.
 
The movie has successfully adapted the play's well-known twists and
turns in the backdrop of the armed insurgency in the Kashmir of the
1990s.
 
Haider is a poet who returns to Kashmir at the height of the
insurgency to find that his father has disappeared and his mother is
in a new relationship with his uncle.
 
The film revolves around Shahid's character who embarks on a dangerous
journey to find his father and ends up getting dragged into the
politics of the state.
 
Critics say Bhardwaj has succeeded in bringing out the raw emotions of
Hamlet in the film, while keeping his focus firmly on Kashmir.
 
The region witnessed its worst armed struggle throughout the 1990s as
separatist groups violently clashed with security forces, demanding
freedom from "Indian rule".
 
Kashmir, claimed by both India and Pakistan, has been a flashpoint for
more than 60 years and the South Asian rivals have fought two wars and
a limited conflict over the region.
 
And India has often accused Pakistan of interfering in its internal
affairs and supporting armed groups.
 
Critics have praised Shahid Kapoor for his performance in Haider
But Bhardwaj's film largely stays away from the rivalry of the
neighbours, focusing instead on the alleged human rights abuses in the
state.
 
Activists often accuse security forces of torturing and kidnapping
local youths in illegal detention camps - an allegation the army has
always denied.
 
Jason Burke writes in the Guardian that "Haider includes graphic
scenes of torture in Indian army camps and other human rights abuses
by Indian officials".
 
This bold portrayal has received praise from film critics and
Bhardwaj's fans.
 
Most analysts feel that earlier films based on Kashmir largely failed
to highlight the real issues and Haider tries to fill that gap.
 
The Hindu says "it takes some amount of guts, ambition and skill to
ride two wild horses - at the same time".
 
Bhardwaj "churns out the best of his Shakespeare trilogy, an
adaptation of Hamlet… which is also an unflinching look at the recent
political history of Kashmir".
 
The paper says that "there is no denying that mass graves of
disappeared people were indeed found".
 
Shahid Kapoor and Shraddha Kapoor (right) play leading roles in the
film
An article in the First Post says "portraying the uncomfortable
political reality of Kashmir" is a great challenge and "more so when
the issue lies at the heart of tension between the people of Kashmir
and India".
 
Kashmir continues to be one of the most controversial political topics
in modern India and evokes strong emotions.
 
Bhardwaj is also facing some backlash over what many describe as his
"unfair" portrayal of the armed forces.
 
But he has defended the plot of his film.
 
"I'm also an Indian, I'm also a patriot, I also love my nation. So I
won't do anything which is anti-national. But what is anti-human, I
will definitely comment on it," he said.
 
Vishal Bhardwaj has defended the plot of his film
Indian Twitter users are divided over the film and the sentiment has
been reflected in two rival hashtags.
 
The hashtag #BoycottHaider has received more than 75,000 tweets since
Friday.
 
 
But others see Haider as a true expression of real cinema in India.
The hashtag #HaiderTrueCinema has attracted more than 45,000 tweets
since Friday.
 
 
Despite the controversy over the film's plot, some analysts say it
shows that India is becoming more open to sensitive subjects.
 
"As democratic traditions strengthen in the country, more and more
such movies will be made and people will be educated. Haider is the
first step in that direction," says Dr Zakir Hussain, senior analyst
at the Indian Council of World Affairs.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 09 09:33PM

http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2678307/Hrithik-Roshan-Katrina-Kaif-starrer-Bang-Bang-to-release-in-Iraq-and-Lebanon
 
Hrithik Roshan-Katrina Kaif starrer Bang Bang to release in Iraq and
Lebanon
After an initial release in 45 countries, Hrithik Roshan and Katrina
Kaif's latest movie Bang Bang, is heading to Lebanon and Iraq as well.
The film will be shown at theatres in the two countries - neither of
which is traditionally considered as a market for Hindi films - from
the coming weekend. The film has been doing well in traditional
markets in the Middle East. Seeing the buzz, distributors in Lebanon
and Iraq have asked for the film to be screened in their countries
too. Earlier, only My Name Is Khan (2010) has officially released in
both countries, while Boss (2013) released in Iraq.
 
The film has smashed all records held so far in international markets
as it emerged as the highest opening film of 2014. It is the biggest
opener this year across all key markets like Middle East, UK, US,
Australia, Pakistan among others. Bang Bang marks Hrithik Roshan's
highest opening weekend in India and overseas as he beat Krrish 3,
Agneepath and Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara collections.
 
Produced by Fox Star Studios, Bang Bang that is directed by Siddharth
Anand and stars Hrithik Roshan and Katrina Kaif collected Rs. 8.23
crores on Wednesday, taking the total India tally to Rs. 127.44 crores
nett (Rs. 182 crores gross).
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Wednesday, October 8, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 3 updates in 3 topics

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
alt.fan.jai-maharaj@googlegroups.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj): Oct 08 10:52PM

Shakespearean Revenge in a Violent Kashmir
 
'Haider' Puts an Indian Twist on 'Hamlet' NYT Critics' Pick
 
By Rachel Saltz
NYTimes.com
October 2, 2014
 
[Caption] Tabu, as the Gertrude character in this
adaptation of "Hamlet" set in 1995.
Credit UTV Motion Pictures
 
Instead of "Haider," the director Vishal Bhardwaj might
have considered calling his fast-and-loose adaptation of
"Hamlet" "Ghazala," after its Gertrude character.
 
As played by the sad-eyed Tabu, Ghazala has such depths
and mystery that she hijacks the movie, pushing Haider
(Hamlet) to the sidelines in his own story. It's her
interior drama that draws you in: Where does her loyalty
lie? What is she thinking? Will she take up arms against
a sea of troubles and, by opposing, change the tale? (She
certainly threatens to once or twice.)
 
By comparison Haider (Shahid Kapoor) is a simple fellow.
In an un-Hamletlike way, he knows what he wants - to
avenge his father - and cannily goes after it.
 
[...]
 
"Haider," which grafts its source story less convincingly
to its setting, doesn't flow as organically. . . .
 
Continues at:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/movies/haider-puts-an-indian-twist-on-hamlet.html?_r=0
 
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
 
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
habshi@anony.net: Oct 08 09:01PM

Just look at this clip from the movie , when Macbeth accuses
his uncle , the choreography , lyrics. Bollywood at its best.
Any militant thinking of infiltrating Kashmir will surely get
deterred by seeing this treatment meted out to them in Indian army
prisons !
Set in Indian Kashmir , the photography is great , could have
done with a couple of Kashmiri wedding dances. The songs are subtitled
too.
 
 
 
excerpt
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c0o2MKB2DrU
 
..
 
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-haider-is-not-the-only-story-of-kashmir-2024038
 
Haider is not the only story of Kashmir
 

'That it should come to this' (Hamlet - Act 1, Scene II)
 
The following excerpts are from former Jammu and Kashmir governor
Jagmohan's book My frozen turbulence in Kashmir.
 
'In 1995, 2768 persons were killed. The Security forces were attacked
2570 times, that is, on an average about seven times a day. The number
of security personnel killed increased from 198 in 1994 to 234 in
1995. 211 more civilians were killed in 1995 than in 1994.'
 
'January 26- Two Bombs exploded near the saluting base and one at the
entrance of the Stadium. Eight persons, including a 'black cat
commando', two Army Jawans , two police constables and two officials
of the State Information Department, were killed. 54 others injured.
The Governor himself had a providential escape.'
 
'February 6 - An Army vehicle carrying Army Jawans from Jammu
Cantonment was blown near Jorian, by a powerful mine. Nine Army men
lost their lives. In another similar landmine blast near Khumriyal in
Kupwara district, six Army Jawans and a civilian were killed'
 
'May 13-1995- In Bharat Village of Doda, eight Hindus were shot dead
and about half a dozen seriously injured by terrorists. Doda had
virtually become a domain of Pro Pakistan militants and foreign
mercenaries'
 
Other than these incidents which have more or less been forgotten now,
but chronicled painstakingly by Jagmohan in his book, 1995 stands out
for two incidents that marked the peak of Islamist jihad in Kashmir.
 
In March 1995, a fierce encounter between security forces and Mast
Gul, Pakistani commander of a dreaded jihadi outfit broke out in the
Char-e-Sharif shrine. Mast Gul and many foreign mercenaries like him
had laid siege to the shrine. After days of a stand off, the entire
village, including the shrine, was burnt and Mast Gul managed to
escape. According to Pakistani newspapers, Mast Gul managed to cross
the LoC (Line of Control) and was accorded a hero's welcome in
Pakistan.
 
Another defining moment of the Kashmir jihad happened in July 1995
when a lesser known outfit known as Al Faran kidnapped six western
tourists in Anantnag district. Six victims, including two British
tourists, two Americans, a German and a Norwegian were abducted. One
American tourist managed to escape, but the Norwegian tourist was
beheaded and the words Al Faran were carved on to his chest. The
other four are now presumed to be dead.
 
None of these above mentioned incidents found even a fleeting
reference in Vishal Bhardwaj's much talked about recent release
Haider. We are told that Haider is set in 1995 Kashmir, but clearly,
Bhardwaj is not interested in all aspects of the history and politics
of Kashmir. He is only interested in the adaptation of Hamlet in an
Indian setting and Kashmir provides a fantastic backdrop, as would
have any other region, like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria or Iraq, that
has been torn by strife. The story of love, betrayal, deceit and
revenge could have worked anywhere. In India however, no other
conflict grabs international headlines like Kashmir does. No other
conflict attracts as much opinion as Kashmir and Bhardwaj has been
vindicated because by the end of the first week of its release, Haider
will probably have more reviewers than viewers.
 
Next, Bhardwaj juxtaposes Curfewed Nights written by Basharat Peer
with Hamlet and produces a potpourri that works at the cinematic level
but has nothing to do with the real story of Kashmir. In Bhardwaj's
world view, Kashmir is incidental and the tale of deceit and revenge
takes precedence. Basharat Peer who is also the script writer of the
film provides the political slant which exists in his book and his
writings about Kashmir. Together, the Bhardwaj-Peer combo provides you
with a strange mix that looks like Kashmir, but at the same time seems
so removed from it.
 
Shakespeare's Hamlet is considered an unlikely hero because he is
indecisive and just can't make up his mind about anything. His five
soliloquies in the play confirm that Hamlet is forever questioning and
contemplating. However, while adapting Hamlet; Bhardwaj seems to have
had no doubts. There are no grey areas for him. The Indian State is
the evil. The Indian Army is the occupational force and all terrorists
are innocent folk who would rather quote Faiz than kill or plot
against India. Not for Bhardwaj are many fascinating stories of rescue
and bravery by the forces. Not for Bhardwaj are the gut-wrenching
stories of soldiers from Chennai, to Manipur to Haryana serving in
Kashmir, where every square inch of land is hostile. Not for Bhardwaj
is the story of Kashmir which is the most subsidized state of the
Indian Union and which enjoys the special status that no other state
does. Bhardwaj also does not seem to be interested in providing any
backdrop to the armed insurgency in Kashmir. It seems to have escaped
him that Kashmir was never annexed by India and therefore the Indian
Army is not an occupational force nor does he seem to have understood
the civilizational connect India has with Kashmir which happens to be
as old as the history of Indian civilization. Bhardawaj hasn't made a
film about Kashmir. Bhardawaj has simply made an adaptation of Hamlet
set in Kashmir. That is why historical accuracy is of no consequence
to him, nor the incidents that happened in the year that he has set
his fictional story in. Haider is about the indulgence of its director
and uni-dimensional world view of its script writer.
 
In 1995, most Hindus had been thrown out of the Kashmir valley by
Islamists. I suppose that is why there is no reference to them in the
film. Bhardwaj's Kashmir is a place where only Muslims live; only
mosques exist, only women with covered heads roam around. Bhardwaj's
camera never stops even for a fraction of a second at the burnt house
of a Kashmiri Pandit or a dilapidated temple where not too long ago
the sound of conches reverberated the air. Since this movie is not
about the real Kashmir, Pandits too don't find a place in Bhardwaj's
canvas. It does hurt that any filmmaker can conceive a film about
Kashmir without any reference to Kashmiri Pandits (a fleeting
15-second reference by an Army Officer does not count) but that is the
reality. While azaadi remains a distant dream and will never happen,
Kashmir exists as an Islamic state where minorities have been driven
out.
 
My eyes strained to find anything that I could identify with in
Bhardwaj's Kashmir. I could find nothing and then suddenly I found
myself in the ruins of the Martand Sun Temple. This is where my
parents took me when I was a little girl and my father told me the
story of King Lalitaditya who had built the archeological marvel. It
was destroyed during the Islamic rule by Sikandar Butshikan and legend
has it that it took him a whole year to destroy the beautiful Sun
temple. When I visited the ruins as a little child, I was surprised
that my father took off his shoes to walk on the stones and made me
take off my shoes too. For him, these ruins were our sacred past and
taking our shoes off was a sign of respect. In Bhardwaj's Kashmir, the
ruins of the Martand Sun Temple are just a prop, a backdrop where
'Band Pather' is performed, where menacing dancers with shoes on their
feet perform a dance portraying revenge and retribution. It was
appropriate that I found myself in the ruins of Martand. With little
or no presence of Hindus in Kashmir, it is appropriate that I identify
myself only with the ruins of Martand.
 
I watched the movie without shedding any tears. My tears seem to have
dried up or so I thought. But when the film ended and I read an odd
line of gratitude to Indian soldiers for helping during the recent
floods, I could hold it no longer and wept copious tears at what I
thought was an attempt to add insult to the injury. In the movie, the
Indian army is the villain, it has no humane face, no valiant stories
that the director could think of incorporating. But in the end
credits, he thinks about thanking the Army as an afterthought, for
helping during floods. That is when I could no longer control my tears
at the hypocrisy of it all and lopsided political world view of Vishal
Bhardawaj and Basharat Peer.
 
Views expressed are the author's own
satheesh2232@gmail.com: Oct 08 05:16AM -0700

Telugu songs adda is a best place to information about Telugu Movies. Telugusongsadda is providing telugu movie reviews, telugu movie news, telugu mp3 songs download and telugu video songs. We also provide latest gossips of telugu film industry.
Web: http://www.telugusongsadda.in/
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Saturday, October 4, 2014

Digest for rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com Google Groups
Unsure why you received this message? You previously subscribed to digests from this group, but we haven't been sending them for a while. We fixed that, but if you don't want to get these messages, send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
habshi@anony.net: Oct 04 03:33PM

What a wonderful era will are living in to see movies like
this in glorious rich colours on the big screen,
Fantastic photography of Prague and Maldives and the London
Gherkin and Shimla. The stunts are out of this world . My favourite
is Katrina holding on to that dolphin like tube underwater , certainly
a fast way to swim!
Photography is pin sharp. Dont read the mad Jyotish negative
postings , go and watch this on the big screen. Pity they didnt
subtiltle the songs , the best part of Bollywood.
Story is about a guy who steals the Kohinoor diamond (every
kingdom that had it lost out , the Mughals , Sikhs , Brits, so there
is a pettition to give it to Pakistan!
 
Trailer on
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhIFVlsHzwQ
 
 
http://m.koimoi.com/box-office/how-hrithik-katrinas-bang-bang-turned-into-140-cr-affair-the-lowdown
 
How Hrithik-Katrina's Bang Bang Turned Into 140 Cr Affair – The
Lowdown
It is now confirmed, and comes straight from the horse's mouth. Fox
Star Studios has produced Bang Bang for a whopping budget of 140 crore
(including Prints & Advertising) hence giving it the status of one of
the costliest films ever made in Bollywood.
 
Here is the complete lowdown of what contributed to it, and whether a
lesser cost would have at all been justified.
 
 
Hrithik Roshan and Katrina Kaif in a still from movie 'Bang Bang'
 
- Bang Bang has Hrithik Roshan and Katrina Kaif, two of the biggest
superstars of the country, in the lead. No prizes for guessing that
they are also two of the highest paid actors in the country. A good
chunk of moolah goes there.
 
- From Day One, the USP of some never-seen-before action is being
widely spoken about in not just the industry circles but also
audiences. A promise has been made that Bollywood would witness
something unique. Assurance comes from the fact that Hollywood action
director Andy Armstrong (The Amazing Spiderman 2) was roped in to
deliver these breath-taking, death-defying stunts. Creating this
spectacle definitely needed the best crew in the business or else it
would all have looked shoddy. Some of the notable action sequences
involved Hrithik driving a F1 car, perform water-ski after being tied
to a sea-plane and do the fly board stunts. While such sequences are a
first for any Bollywood star, needless to say that the cost incurred
on it is huge as well. Of course from the perspective of helping the
film gain good eye balls, the job is done, what with the visuals being
enticing enough for a big screen extravaganza.
 
- The very genre of the film, which is that of being an adventure
affair. With action-romance thrown in for good measure, the stars were
required to travel across the world so as to join the dots and solve a
mystery which forms the core of Bang Bang! The story travels through
Prague, US, Thailand and Greece amongst other countries and the idea
was to keep a non-compromising approach on the scale of the film while
giving the story its due.
 
- With big vision comes bigger risk – the adage couldn't have been
truer here! DirectorSiddharth Anand wanted to create something
larger-than-life and the producers too stuck their necks out to help
him achieve that. The film was accordingly granted its mammoth budget.
 
Says an insider, "Bang Bang is now the hottest film of 2014, a must
watch
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.