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TOPIC: sociopath Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2010 10:23 pm
From: Franz Gnaedinger

Dusan, where are you? We need your help in getting
rid of Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj whom you
call a sad monkey. This morning 20 of 30 threads
on the title page of the Google topics list are by him.
Everything is false about him, his Usenet name,
his title, his pretended engagement for the Hindu
community, his pretended compassion for abused
children. His only concern is to acquire clients who
pay good money for his astrological nonsense,
and he coldly calculates that he can find them
among Hindus: they are many, they are prone
to superstition, and, being of a minor intelligence,
he thinks, they won't see through his cynic scheme
and find out what he really has in mind.

> Jay Stevens who calls himself Jai Maharaj and
> adorns his false name with a false title pretends
> to engage himself for the Hindu community
> while all he cares for is the cash he can suck out
> of his Hindu clientele whom he considers particularly
> prone to superstition, prime material to be ground
> in his astrological mill. He found the (almost) perfect
> scheme of turning the misery of other people into
> money. And he feels that his pseudo-engagement
> gives him the right to ruin sci.lang. Jay Stevens
> aka Dr. Jai Maharaj is a capital sociopath, a cynic
> and a cancer combined.
>
> > That sociopath Jay Stevens who calls himself
> > Jai Maharaj and adorns his false name with a false
> > title goes on massively spamming sci.lang, of the 30
> > threads presently on the first page of the topics list
> > 15 are by him. I will go on repeating what I have to
> > say about him, in previous messages quoted below.
> > My word has a weight, also among the Hindu
> > community, for I am pointing out the value of Indian
> > mathematics, I worked about the Harappan tablets,
> > I can prove that there is a direct line from Harappa
> > to the Vedic religion, and I can take it up with Dr.
> > Steve Farmer, assistant of Witzel. Dr. Farmer
> > felt sorry for me that I believe the nonsense of
> > Asko Parpola, there being a gap of two thousand
> > years between 'Pashupati' and the first mentioning
> > of Murukan. But my work is here to stay, I can show
> > that the RigVeda go straight back to the mythology
> > of Ice Age Eurasia. So my word will have a weight
> > in these matters, my messages will be read again,
> > and I can tell for sure that Jay Steves who is at present
> > carrying out his second long-term massive attack on
> > sci.lang is a sociopath, and a cynic at that, fishing
> > for clients among the Hindus he considers a particularly
> > superstitious bunch, trying to win them for his astological
> > business. He pretends to be defending the Hindu cause,
> > but he is just making money, and he doesn't care whether
> > a newsgroup is choked by him, not even if that newsgroup
> > is seriously concerned with the culture of ancient India,
> > and providing new and fascinating links between Harappa
> > and the RigVeda, outwitting Witzel and his adlatus Farmer.
> > No, that sociopath Jay Stevens aka Dr. Jai Maharaj doesn't
> > care at all, all he cares about is the money he sucks in
> > from Hindu clients whom he makes believe his astro-crap.
>
> > > A sociopath fools people about his intentions. That
> > > particular sociopath who calls himself Dr. Jai Maharaj,
> > > using a false name and adorning it with a false title,
> > > pretends to defend the cause of the Hindu community
> > > while just boosting his astrological business, fishing
> > > for clients among the Hindus he apparently considers
> > > an especially superstitious bunch of people. That
> > > sociopath should not be encouraged by another -path,
> > > namely my longtime stalker of the many aliases,
> > > Panu Petteri Höglund alias John Bulkington alias
> > > Patrick Karl alias craoibhin66 alias he himself as his
> > > own good friend and pupil Sean Connor soconn1
> > > alias he himself as his own brother in arms and
> > > stalking aide John Hobart Kyle jhobartkyle johnk
> > > alias he himself as his own bride Annina Kaartinen
> > > alias a Rumanian professor who claims to have
> > > discovered the origin of language alias he himself
> > > as his own bride Maria Kupari.
>
> > > > > That false doctor who calls himself Jai Maharaj is again
> > > > > trying to suffocate sci.lang. Is it a coincidence that he began
> > > > > his new campaign of massive abusement of our scientific group
> > > > > around New Year, in sight of 2012 ? year of the alleged end of
> > > > > the Mayan calendar, in reality a false claim based on a wrong
> > > > > calculation, and even if the long calendar cycle of the Maya
> > > > > ended in 2012 it would not mean the end of the world, just
> > > > > a new calendar cycle. The year 2012 makes astrologers
> > > > > creep out of their holes, they can frighten people again and
> > > > > sell them their horoscopes. That false doctor Jai Maharaj
> > > > > sells horoscopes and abuses our forum for making propaganda
> > > > > for his astrological firm, pretending that he posts in favor of
> > > > > the Hindu community, while in fact seeing his marekting niche
> > > > > among those people he apparently believes are especially
> > > > > prone to superstition, and therefroe the right and yielding
> > > > > target of his astrological enterprise.
>
> > > > On and on that false doctor of the false name goes
> > > > abusing sci.lang, spammiing our scientific forum,
> > > > often with messages on child abuse by Christian
> > > > missionaries. This has nothing to do with linguistics,
> > > > and reveals a cynic calculation. Who can say anything
> > > > against a protest against child abuse? If you protest
> > > > against his spamming you are revealed as someone
> > > > who secretly supports child abuse, and so, he hopes,
> > > > nobody will speak up against his abuse of sci.lang,
> > > > instead, belonging to the accused western world,
> > > > we are supposed to crumble away in shame and
> > > > allow him to go on with his massive attack on our
> > > > forum. But he didn't count with me. I raise my voice
> > > > against every religious propaganda in here, also
> > > > Christian one, I spoke against missioning all my life,
> > > > quoting Matthew 7:16: "Ye shall recognize them
> > > > by their fruits" - what counts are not words but what
> > > > people do, how they live, what example they give.
> > > > And most of all I write against child abuse and child
> > > > pornography especially in the web, my reasoning
> > > > based on my theory of the two pillars of the law.
> > > > A couple of years ago I sent a paper of mine to the
> > > > top chief of the Zurich police. A minor chief told me
> > > > that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
> > > > these fields, I don't crumble away before the implicit
> > > > accusations of that false doctor of the false name
> > > > and his cynic calculation that he can make money
> > > > out of child abuse, pretending to care for the Hindu
> > > > community while all he has in mind is to catch
> > > > new customers for his astrological enteprise.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 11:23 pm
From: Franz Gnaedinger

Dusan, where are you?

> Dusan, where are you? We need your help in getting
> rid of Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj whom you
> call a sad monkey. This morning 20 of 30 threads
> on the title page of the Google topics list are by him.
> Everything is false about him, his Usenet name,
> his title, his pretended engagement for the Hindu
> community, his pretended compassion for abused
> children. His only concern is to acquire clients who
> pay good money for his astrological nonsense,
> and he coldly calculates that he can find them
> among Hindus: they are many, they are prone
> to superstition, and, being of a minor intelligence,
> he thinks, they won't see through his cynic scheme
> and find out what he really has in mind.
>
> > Jay Stevens who calls himself Jai Maharaj and
> > adorns his false name with a false title pretends
> > to engage himself for the Hindu community
> > while all he cares for is the cash he can suck out
> > of his Hindu clientele whom he considers particularly
> > prone to superstition, prime material to be ground
> > in his astrological mill. He found the (almost) perfect
> > scheme of turning the misery of other people into
> > money. And he feels that his pseudo-engagement
> > gives him the right to ruin sci.lang. Jay Stevens
> > aka Dr. Jai Maharaj is a capital sociopath, a cynic
> > and a cancer combined.
>
> > > That sociopath Jay Stevens who calls himself
> > > Jai Maharaj and adorns his false name with a false
> > > title goes on massively spamming sci.lang, of the 30
> > > threads presently on the first page of the topics list
> > > 15 are by him. I will go on repeating what I have to
> > > say about him, in previous messages quoted below.
> > > My word has a weight, also among the Hindu
> > > community, for I am pointing out the value of Indian
> > > mathematics, I worked about the Harappan tablets,
> > > I can prove that there is a direct line from Harappa
> > > to the Vedic religion, and I can take it up with Dr.
> > > Steve Farmer, assistant of Witzel. Dr. Farmer
> > > felt sorry for me that I believe the nonsense of
> > > Asko Parpola, there being a gap of two thousand
> > > years between 'Pashupati' and the first mentioning
> > > of Murukan. But my work is here to stay, I can show
> > > that the RigVeda go straight back to the mythology
> > > of Ice Age Eurasia. So my word will have a weight
> > > in these matters, my messages will be read again,
> > > and I can tell for sure that Jay Steves who is at present
> > > carrying out his second long-term massive attack on
> > > sci.lang is a sociopath, and a cynic at that, fishing
> > > for clients among the Hindus he considers a particularly
> > > superstitious bunch, trying to win them for his astological
> > > business. He pretends to be defending the Hindu cause,
> > > but he is just making money, and he doesn't care whether
> > > a newsgroup is choked by him, not even if that newsgroup
> > > is seriously concerned with the culture of ancient India,
> > > and providing new and fascinating links between Harappa
> > > and the RigVeda, outwitting Witzel and his adlatus Farmer.
> > > No, that sociopath Jay Stevens aka Dr. Jai Maharaj doesn't
> > > care at all, all he cares about is the money he sucks in
> > > from Hindu clients whom he makes believe his astro-crap.
>
> > > > A sociopath fools people about his intentions. That
> > > > particular sociopath who calls himself Dr. Jai Maharaj,
> > > > using a false name and adorning it with a false title,
> > > > pretends to defend the cause of the Hindu community
> > > > while just boosting his astrological business, fishing
> > > > for clients among the Hindus he apparently considers
> > > > an especially superstitious bunch of people. That
> > > > sociopath should not be encouraged by another -path,
> > > > namely my longtime stalker of the many aliases,
> > > > Panu Petteri Höglund alias John Bulkington alias
> > > > Patrick Karl alias craoibhin66 alias he himself as his
> > > > own good friend and pupil Sean Connor soconn1
> > > > alias he himself as his own brother in arms and
> > > > stalking aide John Hobart Kyle jhobartkyle johnk
> > > > alias he himself as his own bride Annina Kaartinen
> > > > alias a Rumanian professor who claims to have
> > > > discovered the origin of language alias he himself
> > > > as his own bride Maria Kupari.
>
> > > > > > That false doctor who calls himself Jai Maharaj is again
> > > > > > trying to suffocate sci.lang. Is it a coincidence that he began
> > > > > > his new campaign of massive abusement of our scientific group
> > > > > > around New Year, in sight of 2012 ? year of the alleged end of
> > > > > > the Mayan calendar, in reality a false claim based on a wrong
> > > > > > calculation, and even if the long calendar cycle of the Maya
> > > > > > ended in 2012 it would not mean the end of the world, just
> > > > > > a new calendar cycle. The year 2012 makes astrologers
> > > > > > creep out of their holes, they can frighten people again and
> > > > > > sell them their horoscopes. That false doctor Jai Maharaj
> > > > > > sells horoscopes and abuses our forum for making propaganda
> > > > > > for his astrological firm, pretending that he posts in favor of
> > > > > > the Hindu community, while in fact seeing his marekting niche
> > > > > > among those people he apparently believes are especially
> > > > > > prone to superstition, and therefroe the right and yielding
> > > > > > target of his astrological enterprise.
>
> > > > > On and on that false doctor of the false name goes
> > > > > abusing sci.lang, spammiing our scientific forum,
> > > > > often with messages on child abuse by Christian
> > > > > missionaries. This has nothing to do with linguistics,
> > > > > and reveals a cynic calculation. Who can say anything
> > > > > against a protest against child abuse? If you protest
> > > > > against his spamming you are revealed as someone
> > > > > who secretly supports child abuse, and so, he hopes,
> > > > > nobody will speak up against his abuse of sci.lang,
> > > > > instead, belonging to the accused western world,
> > > > > we are supposed to crumble away in shame and
> > > > > allow him to go on with his massive attack on our
> > > > > forum. But he didn't count with me. I raise my voice
> > > > > against every religious propaganda in here, also
> > > > > Christian one, I spoke against missioning all my life,
> > > > > quoting Matthew 7:16: "Ye shall recognize them
> > > > > by their fruits" - what counts are not words but what
> > > > > people do, how they live, what example they give.
> > > > > And most of all I write against child abuse and child
> > > > > pornography especially in the web, my reasoning
> > > > > based on my theory of the two pillars of the law.
> > > > > A couple of years ago I sent a paper of mine to the
> > > > > top chief of the Zurich police. A minor chief told me
> > > > > that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
> > > > > these fields, I don't crumble away before the implicit
> > > > > accusations of that false doctor of the false name
> > > > > and his cynic calculation that he can make money
> > > > > out of child abuse, pretending to care for the Hindu
> > > > > community while all he has in mind is to catch
> > > > > new customers for his astrological enteprise.

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TOPIC: CHILD SEXUALLY MOLESTED AT CHRISTIAN CAMP; FAMILY SUES
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 2:00 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Ohio family suing Ky. Baptist camp where alleged abuse occurred in 2004

The Associated Press
Fox 49 WXIN
Wednesday, February 10, 2010

Somerset, Ky. (AP) - An Ohio family is suing a south-central Kentucky

Baptist camp alleging that negligence led to the sexual molestation
of one of the family's children.

The Commonwealth Journal in Somerset reports that the civil suit
against Camp Victory was filed by the family of a sexual abuse
victim.

The suit stems from a criminal investigation of a minister, Claude
Steven Harmon, who was a pastor at a church in Maineville, Ohio, when
the incident allegedly occurred in 2004.

Police say Harmon confessed to fondling two young boys when his
church was using the camp's facilities for a retreat. Harmon is in
prison in Ohio in a molestation case in that state.

The suit alleges Camp Victory was negligent, leading to suffering by
the victim, identified as "J. Doe."

An attorney for the camp's owner, George Griffis, did not return a
call for comment.

- - -

Information from: Commonwealth Journal
http://www.somerset-kentucky.com

More at:
http://www.fox59.com/news/sns-ap-ky--baptistcampsued,0,7985255.story

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: IRISH SEX CRIME VICTIMS ASK CHRISTIAN CHURCH FOR $1.37 BILLION
COMPENSATION
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 2:03 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Irish Sex Abuse Victims Ask Church for $1 billion

Beliefnet
Wednesday February 10, 2010

Vatican City (RNS) - Irish victims of clerical sex abuse have asked
Pope Benedict XVI for over $1.37 billion in compensation, in a letter
that the head of Ireland's Catholic Church will hand-deliver to the
pope next week.

Cardinal Sean Brady received the letter from representatives of sex
abuse victims on Monday (Feb. 8), according to a report in the Irish
Independent.

The letter also requests a meeting with Benedict during his
forthcoming visit to Britain, expected to take place in September.

Bishop John McAreavey of Dromore said the pope will receive the
letter when he meets with Irish bishops next Monday and Tuesday,
reportedly to discuss last November's Murphy Commission report.

That report traced a pattern of clerical physical and sexual abuse
over three decades, from 1975-2004, which had been covered up by the
Archdiocese of Dublin.

In December, Benedict expressed "outrage," "shame," and "profound
regret" over the report's revelations, and the Vatican announced he
would write a letter to Irish Catholics "in which he will clearly
indicate the initiatives that are to be taken in response to the
situation." The pope's letter is widely expected to be published
shortly after next week's meeting.

Four Irish bishops have already resigned as a consequence of the
Murphy Commission's revelations.

- Francis X. Rocca

More at:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2010/02/irish-sex-abuse-victims-ask-ch.php

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: Fun & masti
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 10:57 am
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TOPIC: My name is Khan - English subtitles
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 2:13 pm
From: habshi@anony.net

A movie which can be watched less than once , it does redeem
itself in the second half. Backround music is quite good. All these
apologetics for Islam get a few lusty blows against it by error. It
quotes a few benign verses of the quran but doesnt mention thousands
cursing unbelievers and promoting war 'till the whole world is
Islamic'' Quran.
San Francisco is shown really well.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 3:41 pm
From: hari.kumar@indero.com

"apologetics for Islam get a few lusty blows against it by error. It
quotes a few benign verses of the quran but doesnt mention thousands
cursing unbelievers and promoting war 'till the whole world is Islamic''
Quran."

I heard him interviewed on the radio this morning about the movie.

His motivation was not so much to promote islam but to explain why new
york 911 was not the actions of the average muslim one would encounter
in daily life.

That is why his character repeated to all he encountered that he was not
a terrorist.

Now if we could only encounter everyone who is not a terrorist or one
who encourages terrorism or excuses those who perform terrorist acts.
Or those who in one broad brush make all of one group the same as the
few who are terrorists.

This regardless of religion or place of origin. There are enough
examples to go around and none escape their responsibility in this
effort.

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TOPIC: 14TH CENTURY NARASINGH TEMPLE FOUND
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Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 3:36 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Wednesday, February 10, 2010

14th century Narasimha temple found

Special Correspondent
The Hindu
Feb. 8, 2010

This is one of the many such temples (about 15 of them) in and around
the cantonment

it has Jaya-Vijaya statues buried about 10 feet below ground

Photo: T. vijaya kumar.

http://www.hindu.com/2010/02/08/images/2010020853140501.jpg

Heritage monument: Fourteenth century Narasimha Swamy temple found at
the foothill of Kondaveedu Fort in Guntur district on Sunday. --

GUNTUR: A Vaishnavaite temple of Narasimhaswamy was found on Sunday
by Puttakota villagers in the valley close to Mahadwaram of
cantonment of erstwhile Reddi kings of Kondaveedu.

While the main deity is missing, the architecture of the temple
suggests it was one of those from the early days of Reddi kings (1325
AD) establishing their capital at Kondaveedu and lived at the
foothill and built some Vaishnavaite and Shaivaite temples for their
religious purposes. This is one of the many such temples (about 15 of
them) in and around the cantonment built by the kings, who ruled from
this place and stayed there for more than 100 years.

The village president K. Anka Rao who visited the spot along with
Kondaveedu Development Committee convener K. Siva Reddy said that
this temple was not visible all these days due to the thick growth of
trees. A roofed temple, like some on the hill-top, it has Jaya,
Vijaya statues buried about 10 feet below ground.

Variety of rocks

Statues of the Dwarapalaks found at the place have been kept securely
at that place and the Department of State Archeology Assistant
Director E. Sivanagi Reddy has been informed of the new found
treasure and they would take further action to protect it. Built with
red stone, it is believed to be red granite as written in the history
books on Kondaveedu, while these range of hills forming part of
Eastern Ghats, constitute Charnockites variety of rocks.

Charnockite suite or series are a group of igneous rocks, variably
metamorphosed of wide distribution and great importance in India, Sri
Lanka, Madagascar and Africa. The name was given by Dr T. H. Holland
from the fact that the tombstone of Job Charnock, the founder of
Calcutta, is made of a block of this rock, said Professor of Geology
in Hindu College A. Subrahmanyam.

A museum displaying the history and archeology of Reddi kings needs
to be set up on top of the hill said, Mr. Subhrahmanyam and to
attract academicians and researchers on geological aspects of the
rock formations and earth in this region, a geological museum
integrated into the proposed one would serve a good purpose, he
added.

http://www.hindu.com/2010/02/08/stories/2010020853140500.htm

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: Muslim Terrorism - WAITING FOR THE JIHADI TERRORIST
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 4:09 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Waiting for the jihadi terrorist

Saturday, January 23, 2010

Terrorist attack is "highly likely" security services say

The threat of a terrorist attack has been raised to "severe" amid
fears that al-Qaeda is planning a wave of attacks following the
Detroit bombings.

By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent
Daily Telegraph
January 22, 2010

The decision follows analysis by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre
(JTAC), a unit within MI5, and indicates an attack is now "highly
likely."

It was made following briefings to the Prime Minister by the heads of
the security services MI5, MI6 and GCHQ and a meeting of the
Government's Cobra emergency committee.

The move comes as foreign ministers are preparing to meet in London
next week to discuss the threat of terrorism in Yemen and
Afghanistan.

Those present will include Hamid Karzai, the Afghan President, Ban
Ki-moon, the UN Secretary-General and US Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton.

Sources said the Detroit attack on Christmas Day, which demonstrated
a new methodology and increased threat, was "one of the factors" but
said the decision is taken after looking at intelligence "in the
round."

MI5 is watching around 2,000 individuals across Britain although the
activity among domestic extremists is not thought to have risen
significantly in recent months.

Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary said: "I should stress that there is
no intelligence to suggest than an attack is imminent.

"JTAC keeps the threat level under constant review makes its
judgments based on a broad range of factors, including the intent and
capabilities of international terrorist groups in the UK and
overseas.

"We still face a real and serious threat to the UK from international
terrorism so I would urge the public to remain vigilant and carry on
reporting suspicious events to the appropriate authorities and to
support the police and security services in their continuing efforts
to discover, track and disrupt terrorist activity."

Gordon Brown warned earlier this week that "a number of terrorist
cells are actively trying to attack Britain and other countries."

His speech to the House of Commons came after he received a briefing
on the latest intelligence at a meeting of the Cabinet's National
Security Committee.

Mr Brown said the failed attack over Detroit on Christmas Day
signalled "the first operation mounted outside Arabia by al-Qaeda in
the Arabian Peninsula."

He also talked about the increased threat from Somalia in East Africa
and the Sahel in West Africa, adding that there would be a greater
degree of intelligence sharing with foreign countries.

Umar Farouq Abdulmutallab, who tried to set off a bomb in his
underwear, has warned his FBI interrogators that up to 20 "more like
me" may be preparing further attacks.

The government is setting up a new 'watch list' system to try and
stop terrorist suspects boarding planes.

MI5, MI6 and the GCHQ listening centre have also begun setting up
"joint investigating and targeting teams", which are designed to
address potential threats before suspects might reach Britain.

The teams are designed to work with the Joint Terrorism Analysis
Centre to collect, share and use intelligence.

The US Department for Homeland Security said the measures effectively
put Britain at the same alert level as America following the
Christmas Day attack.

Severe is the fourth of five threat levels. The level was reduced to
"substantial" last July for the first time in four years after a
judgment was made that there had been a "chilling" effect on
terrorism in Britain.

The assessment is based on a range of factors including intelligence,
current terrorist activity, comparison with events in other countries
and previous attacks.

MI5 say that it is rare that specific intelligence about a threat is
available and can be relied on and that more often, judgements about
the threat will be based on a wide range of information, which is
often "fragmentary".

Those elements include what is known about the capabilities of
terrorists, the method they may use, and the potential scale of the
attack as well as the targets they would consider attacking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7056833/Terrorist-attack-is-highly-likely-security-services-say.html

UK terror threat raised to 'severe', Home Secretary announces

The UK's terror threat level has been raised from substantial to
severe, Home Secretary Alan Johnson has announced.

By Andrew Hough
Published: 8:37PM GMT 22 Jan 2010

The announcement means that an attack is now "highly likely".

Mr Johnson said that although the threat had increased there was no
intelligence to suggest an attack was imminent.

The Home Secretary was not specific about the threat, but indicated
it was not linked to the Detroit bombing on Christmas Day.

"The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre has today raised the threat to
the UK from international terrorism from substantial to severe," he
said.

"This means that a terrorist attack is highly likely, but I should
stress that there is no intelligence to suggest than an attack is
imminent.

"JTAC keeps the threat level under constant review and makes its
judgments based on a broad range of factors, including the intent and
capabilities of international terrorist groups in the UK and
overseas."

He said that authorities were "not being specific about this, we are
not gong to be specific about this".

"In his statement to Parliament on security and counter terrorism
earlier this week, the Prime Minister said that the first and most
important duty of government is the protection and security of the
British people," he said.

"We have a very focused counter terrorism facility in this country
and the public should be reassured by that."

He added: "The fact is we keep this under review and moving to this
different threat level means we have to be more alert and it means
that an attack has moved to the level of being likely, but we have
absolutely no intelligence to suggest that it is imminent."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7056220/UK-terror-threat-raised-to-severe-Home-Secretary-announces.html

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 4:32 am
From: Hunter

Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> Is this hunter a Christian missionary?

I'm about as Christian as you are Indian.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 5:11 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <hl27aj$vc1$3@news.eternal-september.org>,
Hunter <hunter01@iinet.net.au> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > Is this hunter a Christian missionary?

> I'm about as Christian as you are Indian.

Then you are very much a Christian because I am very much a Bharatiya.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 6:12 pm
From: "harmony"

well, he keeps asking for young kids in india - to a wrong party - like an
habituated druggie looking for drugs.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100209MXDzO3LKw071XMyL30E1a0F@DGe5v...
> Is this hunter a Christian missionary?
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b70b0f7$0$12458$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> it is very sad that hunter's friends and relatives should continue to
>> patronize this cafe like it is a mere statistic.
>>
>>
>> "Torpedo" <guest@unknown.com> wrote in message
>> news:hkok83$ojq$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> > ...if this can happen to a young Aussie employee, what's happening then
>> > with
>> > the employees of different ethnic backgrounds?
>> >
>> > http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/08/2813468.htm
>> >
>> > 'They drove her to the edge and pushed'
>> >
>> > By Alison Caldwell for The World Today
>> > Posted 3 hours 38 minutes ago
>> > Updated 2 hours 13 minutes ago
>> >
>> > The mother of a young waitress who took her own life after enduring
>> > persistent harassment by colleagues hopes her story will encourage
>> > others
>> > to
>> > speak out against workplace bullying.
>> >
>> > Brodie Panlock, 19, left behind two brothers and her parents when she
>> > took
>> > her own life in 2006 after enduring persistent bullying by three of her
>> > colleagues at Melbourne's Cafe Vamp.
>> >
>> > She was spat on and regularly called names such as fat and ugly.
>> >
>> > Nicholas Smallwood, 26, Rhys MacAlpine, 28, and Gabriel Toomey, 23, all
>> > pleaded guilty to charges under Victoria's Occupational Health and
>> > Safety
>> > Act and were fined between $10,000 and $45,000 each.
>> >
>> > Convictions were recorded for the men.
>> >
>> > Cafe Vamp's owner, Marc Luis Da Cruz, was fined $220,000 for failing to
>> > provide a safe workplace.
>> >
>> > Speaking outside court, Brodie's mother, Rae Panlock, described her
>> > daughter
>> > as a beautiful girl who was full of compassion.
>> >
>> > "She was just my little ray of sunshine and she was really a very
>> > compassionate loving kid and a very, very pretty girl," she said.
>> >
>> > "[The] things that they said about her, what can you say? It just
>> > breaks
>> > your heart and as far as I am concerned, they drove her to the edge and
>> > they
>> > pushed her over.
>> >
>> > "They should be in jail. Simple as that."
>> >
>> > She says she is happy the case has been taken seriously by WorkCover.
>> >
>> > "I am just hoping that now there will be a lot more young girls out
>> > there
>> > that hopefully will now come forward," she said.
>> >
>> > 'Poisonous' workplace
>> >
>> > Ms Panlock started working as a waitress at Cafe Vamp in Hawthorn in
>> > Melbourne's inner-east in 2005.
>> >
>> > At the time, aged 18, she was having a sexual relationship with the
>> > manager
>> > of the cafe, Smallwood.
>> >
>> > But that did not stop Smallwood from subjecting her to constant verbal
>> > and
>> > physical harassment at work, egged on by co-workers MacAlpine and
>> > Toomey.
>> >
>> > Magistrate Garry Livermore described the atmosphere in the cafe as
>> > poisonous.
>> >
>> > He said they regularly insulted Ms Panlock by calling her fat, stupid,
>> > ugly
>> > and a whore. He said they regularly criticised her clothes, jewellery
>> > and
>> > her haircut.
>> >
>> > A co-worker told the court that at one stage she saw MacAlpine holding
>> > Ms
>> > Panlock while Smallwood poured fish sauce all over her.
>> >
>> > The Magistrate said a colleague telling them to let up on the treatment
>> > made
>> > no difference whatsoever.
>> >
>> > The court was told that after Ms Panlock attempted suicide in 2006,
>> > Smallwood taunted her that she could not do it properly and put rat
>> > poison
>> > in her handbag.
>> >
>> > The colleague warned him to stop harassing Ms Panlock and said "if you
>> > don't, you'll have blood on your hands".
>> >
>> > In September 2006, Ms Panlock jumped from an apartment building and
>> > died
>> > three days later in hospital from head injuries.
>> >
>> > In 2009 Smallwood was charged with failing to look after people in the
>> > workplace. Sometime after that he moved interstate where he got a job
>> > as a
>> > waiter.
>> >
>> > Today the court was told he had since lost his job.
>> >
>> > He and his two colleagues, MacAlpine and Toomey, pleaded guilty to
>> > charges
>> > of failing to look after people in the workplace.
>> >
>> > Da Cruz pleaded guilty to failing to provide a safe workplace. He is
>> > also
>> > planning to move interstate and sell the cafe.
>> >
>> > MacAlpine wants to become an actor while Toomey is a chef at a
>> > restaurant
>> > in
>> > Collingwood.
>> >
>> > Vicious culture
>> >
>> > Stan Krpan, the acting executive director of WorkSafe Victoria, says
>> > the
>> > penalty is significant and sends out a strong message.
>> >
>> > "We are hoping that it creates a turning point in relation to this
>> > issue.
>> > It
>> > is a very serious issue - bullying at the workplace," he said.
>> >
>> > "The penalties are amongst the highest penalties that we've seen in
>> > relation
>> > to individuals under the Occupational Health and Safety Act.
>> >
>> > "Obviously this is a deeply sad and tragic prosecution. It was a very
>> > important prosecution for us to take.
>> >
>> > "It sends a very clear message to the community that this sort of
>> > behaviour
>> > is vicious, it shouldn't be tolerated and it won't be tolerated. It is
>> > just
>> > not acceptable."
>> >
>> > He says this case presents the most serious example of workplace
>> > bullying.
>> >
>> > "The culpability was high. The culture at this workplace was vicious
>> > and
>> > it
>> > wasn't acceptable," he said.
>> >
>> > "That is the sort of message that we want to send to the community -
>> > that
>> > this needs to be stamped out and that it shouldn't be tolerated."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 4:06 pm
From: Hunter

Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> I'd teach Hindi to him

No you wouldn't. If I was interested in learning Hindi, I'd find an
Indian to teach me, not a stateless parasite toe-rag like yourself or
your boyfriend harmony.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 4:36 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <hl27as$vc1$8@news.eternal-september.org>,
Hunter <hunter01@iinet.net.au> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > I'd teach Hindi to him

> No you wouldn't. If I was interested in learning Hindi, I'd find an
> Indian to teach me, not a stateless parasite toe-rag like yourself or
> your boyfriend harmony.

I am a Bharatiya, born in U.P., and a native Hindi speaker. But with the
attitude you are displaying, I doubt if any native Hindi speaker will
teach you the language.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: PRESIDENT'S KIN USURPED LAND, SAYS COURT
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 4:45 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

President's kin usurped land, says court

Vaibhav Ganjapure & Vaidehi More, TNN
The Times of India
Thursday, February 11, 2010

Nagpur - A local court in Maharashtra has upheld a farmer's plea that
India's first family had fraudulently usurped a little more than one
hectare of his farmland. Surprisingly, the order was made last
December 7 but never made public since the order wasn't given to
either party until Tuesday.

In the order, the court of Daryapur subdivisional officer Ashok
Amankar directed striking off the names of President Pratibha Patil
Shekhawat's family from the records and upheld Kishor Bansod's claim
that the transfer of ownership was done using fraudulent means.

The SDO, while partly allowing an appeal filed by the aggrieved
farmer, cancelled a mutation entry of October 5, 2007, which named,
apart from the president's husband Devisingh Shekhawat, family
members Siddheshwar, Raghusingh, Bhawarsingh, Kishorsingh and Omsingh
Shekhawat.

Devisingh told TOI on Wednesday the allegation was baseless and
nothing but a publicity gimmick by the appellant. "The total land of
1.02 hectare was jointly held by Bansod and Siddheshwar Shekhawat and
five others," he said.

Devisingh clarified that the court has only partially allowed the
appeal while directing revenue officials to measure the land afresh
and restore ownership to the original joint owners. Devisingh claimed
that Bansod had been illegally cultivating on their piece of land and
since he was also working as part-time journalist, was seeking undue
publicity. "It might be an error committed by the officials who
measured it. I have only one acre of land in my name which I would
have donated to any of my family members," he said.

Congress party also rushed to his defence, saying it would be
premature to judge him guilty. "It would be wrong to jump to
conclusions on the basis of one-sided facts," said party spokesman
Abhishek Singhvi.

The SDO also directed superintendent of town planning in Daryapur in
Amravati district to measure the disputed tract and asked the
Shekhawat family to bear the cost of the exercise.

According to the appellant's counsel Sunil Gajbhiye, Shekhwat
family's land was adjacent Bansod's land measuring 1.02 hectares in
Chandrapur Khallar village and Shekhawat's wanted Bansod to sell it
to them.

Later, revenue officials got the ownership entry in the name of
Shekawat family members and it was made official on October 5, 2007
without informing the appellant, Bansod alleged.

Bansod filed an application under Section 247 of Maharashtra Land
Ownership Act 1966 before Daryapur SDO's court, demanding immediate
stay on the alleged illegal transfer of his land by the Shekhawat
family. He contended that after his refusal to sell his land,
Shekhawat family members connived with local officials and
transferred his land in their names on the key documents.

Only a small bit was left with Bansod as per records.

More at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Presidents-kin-usurped-land-says-court/articleshow/5558105.cms

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 6:08 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Maha Shivaratri Greetings!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 9:45 pm
From: "harmony"

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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> Maha Shivaratri Greetings!
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

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TOPIC: Indian IT market to grow at 15.5 percent in 2010
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 9:43 pm
From: "harmony"

i am afraid the world will have to learn to speak english the hindu way.

Indian IT market to grow at 15.5 percent in 2010
By siliconindia news bureau
Monday,08 February 2010, 02:58 hrs

New Delhi: The Indian IT market is expected to return to a 'new normal'
after last year's turbulent economic environment, supported by financial
stability, investor confidence, government initiatives and a shift towards a
competitive and customer-oriented market structure. Springboard Research
predicts that Indian IT Market is set to grow at around 15.5 percent for the
year 2010.

Springboard observed a noticeable shift in enterprise IT spending from
focusing on new investments to streamlining costs and improving internal
efficiencies. "Organizations are likely to initiate new large?scale projects
that require significant IT infrastructure related investments," said Manish
Bahl, Research Manager at Springboard Research. "With the CIOs primarily
focused on allocating around 75 percent of their budgets to 'keep the lights
on,' there is great interest in cost-cutting measures."

According to Springboard's latest executive brief release, "India IT Market
Predictions 2010," Data center transformations, IT manageability
advancements, SaaS and virtualization investments are also helping companies
drive 'economies of scale' by reducing operational expenditures, both from
the business and IT perspective, while increasing productivity.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 10:38 pm
From: Cormac

On Feb 12, 5:43 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i am afraid the world will have to learn to speak english the hindu way.
>

India is being undermined by serious caste and social problems. Maoist
terrorism is spreading and the Muslim threat continues.

Cormac.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 11 2010 9:52 pm
From: "harmony"

Make top MBA grads village school headmasters: Sibal
Thursday,11 February 2010, 03:10 hrs

New Delhi: With a belief that graduates from the premier B-schools can
handle village schools better, Union HRD Minister Kapil Sibal has devised a
new mantra of sending top B-school pass-outs from the institutes to head
village schools. "A number of IIM and IIT students come from rural
background and they want to give back something to their villages. We should
explore this opportunity," Sibal said.
While interacting with women entrepreneurs in Delhi, Sibal spoke on the need
of leaders in education, including capable principals in large numbers,
especially in the model schools to be set up across the country, reports
Shruba Mukherjee of Deccan Herald. "I have interacted with students in the
prestigious B-schools and many of them want to opt for teaching. Why can't
we have graduates from the Indian Institutes of Management as principals in
these schools?" he questioned.

"On a normal course, it takes about nine years for a teacher to become
principal in a school. But if an IIM or IIT graduate undertakes the
Leadership Development program in a university, he can be recruited as a
principal within two years," the Minister said. However, after serving a
certain period a person would be free to go back to the industry if he is
willing.

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