Saturday, February 20, 2010

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Today's topics:

* ELTON JOHN CLAIMS JESUS WAS HOMOSEXUAL - 20 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/f8d1787073a65751?hl=en
* CORRUPTED BHARATIYA MEDIA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/9a09f0e3b252d988?hl=en
* poll shows americans overwhelmingly like India - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/23c8dff96bf651c9?hl=en
* BHOLU PRAYS FOR BURIAL IN TERRORIST PAKISTAN (Repost) - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/70df2cb71356bc6e?hl=en
* HAWALA AND LOOTED MONEY STASHED AWAY IN TAX HAVENS (e.g. SWISS ACCOUNTS) - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/1f0b6fa6d552b416?hl=en

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TOPIC: ELTON JOHN CLAIMS JESUS WAS HOMOSEXUAL
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/f8d1787073a65751?hl=en
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== 1 of 20 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 19 2010 8:59 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>>>> wrote in message news:20100218Gg88l1kDf5MNNBllUPY5lm1@NzlZ2...
>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
>>>>>> The Sun, UK
>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in a new
>>>>>> US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a magazine: "I
>>>>>> think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who
>>>>>> understood human problems."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don't know
>>>>>> what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the Middle
>>>>>> East - you're as good as dead."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and DAVID
>>>>>> FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was attracted to David
>>>>>> immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The next night we
>>>>>> had dinner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone younger. I
>>>>>> wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them around the world,
>>>>>> try to educate them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace outfit,
>>>>>> maybe a sports car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd taken
>>>>>> their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended to."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read more:
>>>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More at:
>>>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>
>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>>>>>> educational
>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
>>>>>> post may not
>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>>>>>> opinion of the
>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
>>>>>> read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full
>>>>>> legal name, current
>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>>>>>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
>>>>>> others are
>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
>>>>>> the article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the
>>>>>> use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by
>>>>>> the copyright owner. This material is being made available in
>>>>>> efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political,
>>>>>> human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and
>>>>>> cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
>>>>>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
>>>>>> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
>>>>>> In accordance with Title
>>>>>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
>>>>>> without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
>>>>>> receiving the included
>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational
>>>>>> purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web
>>>>>> sites. For more information
>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
>>>>>> purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain
>>>>>> permission from the copyright owner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
>>>>>
>>>> Stupid homophobe.
>>>
>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
>>>
>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy person.
>
> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was determined
> by the mental health people to be a mental disease. (fags are crazy
> people )
> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
>
Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious kook.

>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure is a
>> gay basher.
>
> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
> find their lifestylr disgusting?
>
> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
> not be encouraged?.
>
> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
>
> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
>
*sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms people. Two
adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their own bedroom does not
harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.

== 2 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 5:57 am
From: "P. Rajah"


Me, ...again! wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, P. Rajah wrote:
>
>> Mad Sudhan <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 18, 9:02 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mutra.com/jai (Dr.
>>> Jay Stevens Maharaj) wrote:
>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>>>
>>> I never heard of the Gospel of Elton John so far. Was this in the dead
>>> sea scrolls? Sure it puts Jesus in a new light. I wonder if Elton John
>>> spake about how Jesus was begat.
>>
>> Elton John said he begat you out his ass nine months after an
>> encounter with a hijra.
>>
>
> Could someone please tell me what subject "Dr." Jai(y) Stevens Mahaharaj
> got his "Dr" degree in? Did he ever say what subject, what institution,
> or what diploma mill, or did he just edit the prefix of his name?

He hasn't claimed any specifics since he began using the honorific, and
has let people at various times assume that he is a medical doctor, an
engineering Ph.D., or(most likely, at $10 + s&h) a Ph.D. in asstrollogy.
The available information indicates him to have dropped out of a Case
Western Reserve University undergraduate program in the '70s, and then
wandered through the country to Los Angeles, where he spent a few years
in the early-mid 80s before making a trip to Hawaii where he linked up
with hindutva groups there.


== 3 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 9:57 am
From: "regn.pickfod"


Seon Ferguson wrote:
> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
> news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>>>>> wrote in message news:20100218Gg88l1kDf5MNNBllUPY5lm1@NzlZ2...
>>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
>>>>>>> The Sun, UK
>>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in a new
>>>>>>> US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a magazine: "I
>>>>>>> think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who
>>>>>>> understood human problems."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don't
>>>>>>> know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the
>>>>>>> Middle East - you're as good as dead."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and DAVID
>>>>>>> FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was attracted to David
>>>>>>> immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The next night
>>>>>>> we had dinner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone younger.
>>>>>>> I wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them around the
>>>>>>> world, try to educate them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace outfit,
>>>>>>> maybe a sports car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd
>>>>>>> taken their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended to."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read more:
>>>>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More at:
>>>>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>>>>>>> educational
>>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
>>>>>>> post may not
>>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>>>>>>> opinion of the
>>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
>>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
>>>>>>> read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full
>>>>>>> legal name, current
>>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>>>>>>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
>>>>>>> others are
>>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
>>>>>>> the article.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material
>>>>>>> the use of which may or may not have been specifically
>>>>>>> authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made
>>>>>>> available in efforts to advance the understanding of
>>>>>>> environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic,
>>>>>>> scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
>>>>>>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
>>>>>>> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
>>>>>>> In accordance with Title
>>>>>>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
>>>>>>> without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
>>>>>>> receiving the included
>>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational
>>>>>>> purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web
>>>>>>> sites. For more information
>>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
>>>>>>> purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain
>>>>>>> permission from the copyright owner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Stupid homophobe.
>>>>
>>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
>>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
>>>>
>>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy person.
>>
>> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was determined
>> by the mental health people to be a mental disease. (fags are crazy
>> people )
>> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
>> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
>> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
>> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
>>
> Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious kook.
>

The Homosexual lifestyle should not be encouraged for various reasons.
As seen above, the Homosexual lifestyle is a symptom of self distructive
mental disease. It is a conduit for STD's such as AIDS and what will be the
_next_ AIDS

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html

[quote stt]
a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had
more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed
100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed
500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex
partners.
Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are
concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s.
The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a
greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS,
syphilis and other STDs

[quopte fin]

. The Teachers Federation supports the
Homosexual lifestyle and the teachers have taught _you_ to support
the Homosexual lifestyle.

The Homosexual lifestyle involves high risk sexual behaviour
and as such, you are a potential victim of this abuse and perversion
of sexual mores.

>>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure is a
>>> gay basher.
>>
>> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
>> find their lifestylr disgusting?
>>
>> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
>> not be encouraged?.
>>
>> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
>>
>> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
>>
> *sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms
> people. Two adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their
> own bedroom does not harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.

Tell it to the millions of family members who have lost people to AIDS
which the Homosexual Lifestyle spread to the world and spread to
heterosexuals and druggies.Or the _next_ STD which like AIDS
will be transmitted to the world (or maybe has been and we are waiting to
see the terminal phase of the disease start occuring

With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
one's bedroom.

== 4 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 10:55 am
From: uNmaiviLambi


On Feb 20, 12:57 pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
> Seon Ferguson wrote:

> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
> one's bedroom.

Homosexuality is a perversion


== 5 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 1:17 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <bb43ba83-bc04-4157-bef0-a1c39562cd38@l1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> posted:

> On Feb 20, 12:57=A0pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
> > Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> > With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
> > their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
> > negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
> > one's bedroom.

> Homosexuality is a perversion

Yes indeed.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 6 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:05 pm
From: "P. Rajah"


Mad Sudhan, uNmaiviLambi<tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Feb 20, 12:57 pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
>> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>> one's bedroom.
>
> Homosexuality is a perversion

If you believe that, why do you keep blowing Jay Stevens Maharaj?


== 7 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:34 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b802299@news.comindico.com.au...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>> news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>>>>>> wrote in message news:20100218Gg88l1kDf5MNNBllUPY5lm1@NzlZ2...
>>>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
>>>>>>>> The Sun, UK
>>>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in a new
>>>>>>>> US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a magazine: "I
>>>>>>>> think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who
>>>>>>>> understood human problems."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don't
>>>>>>>> know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the
>>>>>>>> Middle East - you're as good as dead."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and DAVID
>>>>>>>> FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was attracted to David
>>>>>>>> immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The next night
>>>>>>>> we had dinner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone younger.
>>>>>>>> I wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them around the
>>>>>>>> world, try to educate them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace outfit,
>>>>>>>> maybe a sports car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd
>>>>>>>> taken their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended to."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read more:
>>>>>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More at:
>>>>>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>>>>>>>> educational
>>>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
>>>>>>>> post may not
>>>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>>>>>>>> opinion of the
>>>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>>>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
>>>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
>>>>>>>> read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full
>>>>>>>> legal name, current
>>>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>>>>>>>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
>>>>>>>> others are
>>>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
>>>>>>>> the article.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material
>>>>>>>> the use of which may or may not have been specifically
>>>>>>>> authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made
>>>>>>>> available in efforts to advance the understanding of
>>>>>>>> environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic,
>>>>>>>> scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
>>>>>>>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
>>>>>>>> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
>>>>>>>> In accordance with Title
>>>>>>>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
>>>>>>>> without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
>>>>>>>> receiving the included
>>>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational
>>>>>>>> purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web
>>>>>>>> sites. For more information
>>>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>>>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
>>>>>>>> purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain
>>>>>>>> permission from the copyright owner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>>>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>>>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stupid homophobe.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
>>>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy person.
>>>
>>> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was determined
>>> by the mental health people to be a mental disease. (fags are crazy
>>> people )
>>> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
>>> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
>>> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
>>> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
>>>
>> Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious kook.
>>
>
> The Homosexual lifestyle should not be encouraged for various reasons.
> As seen above, the Homosexual lifestyle is a symptom of self distructive
> mental disease. It is a conduit for STD's such as AIDS and what will be
> the
> _next_ AIDS
>
> http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
>
> [quote stt]
> a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had
> more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed
> 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed
> 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex
> partners.
> Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are
> concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s.
> The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a
> greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS,
> syphilis and other STDs
>
> [quopte fin]
>
> . The Teachers Federation supports the
> Homosexual lifestyle and the teachers have taught _you_ to support
> the Homosexual lifestyle.
>
> The Homosexual lifestyle involves high risk sexual behaviour
> and as such, you are a potential victim of this abuse and perversion
> of sexual mores.
>
>
>
>>>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure is a
>>>> gay basher.
>>>
>>> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
>>> find their lifestylr disgusting?
>>>
>>> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
>>> not be encouraged?.
>>>
>>> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
>>>
>>> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
>>>
>> *sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms
>> people. Two adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their
>> own bedroom does not harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.
>
> Tell it to the millions of family members who have lost people to AIDS
> which the Homosexual Lifestyle spread to the world and spread to
> heterosexuals and druggies.Or the _next_ STD which like AIDS
> will be transmitted to the world (or maybe has been and we are waiting to
> see the terminal phase of the disease start occuring
>
> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
> one's bedroom.
>
>
>
Heterosexuals get aids as well, does that mean straight sex should be
banned? That's what happens when you don't wear protection. You poor sad
deluded kook.

== 8 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:34 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"uNmaiviLambi" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb43ba83-bc04-4157-bef0-a1c39562cd38@l1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 20, 12:57 pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
>> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>> one's bedroom.
>
> Homosexuality is a perversion

Let me guess we should all repent to your Gawd right?

== 9 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:35 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
message news:20100220Rfd90u9cqQanSG0XI41maP5@HeZ01...
> In article
> <bb43ba83-bc04-4157-bef0-a1c39562cd38@l1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> uNmaiviLambi <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> posted:
>
>> On Feb 20, 12:57=A0pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
>> > Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> > With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>> > their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>> > negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>> > one's bedroom.
>
>> Homosexuality is a perversion
>
> Yes indeed.
>
Your just as bad as the church that you claim to be fighting against. You'd
make an excellent Muslim.

> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>


== 10 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 5:36 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <efCdnYEjlqPu7B3WnZ2dnUVZ_vAAAAAA@westnet.com.au>,
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:
>
>
>
> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
> news:4b802299@news.comindico.com.au...
> > Seon Ferguson wrote:
> >> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
> >> news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
> >>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
> >>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
> >>>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
> >>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
> >>>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
> >>>>>>>> The Sun, UK
> >>>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in a new
> >>>>>>>> US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a magazine: "I
> >>>>>>>> think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who
> >>>>>>>> understood human problems."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don't
> >>>>>>>> know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the
> >>>>>>>> Middle East - you're as good as dead."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and DAVID
> >>>>>>>> FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got together.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was attracted to David
> >>>>>>>> immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The next night
> >>>>>>>> we had dinner.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone younger.
> >>>>>>>> I wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them around the
> >>>>>>>> world, try to educate them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace outfit,
> >>>>>>>> maybe a sports car.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd
> >>>>>>>> taken their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended to."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Read more:
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>
> >>>>>>>> More at:
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>
> >>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >>>>>>>> Om Shanti
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >>>>>>>> educational
> >>>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
> >>>>>>>> post may not
> >>>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
> >>>>>>>> opinion of the
> >>>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
> >>>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
> >>>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
> >>>>>>>> read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full
> >>>>>>>> legal name, current
> >>>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> >>>>>>>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
> >>>>>>>> others are
> >>>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
> >>>>>>>> the article.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material
> >>>>>>>> the use of which may or may not have been specifically
> >>>>>>>> authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made
> >>>>>>>> available in efforts to advance the understanding of
> >>>>>>>> environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic,
> >>>>>>>> scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
> >>>>>>>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
> >>>>>>>> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
> >>>>>>>> In accordance with Title
> >>>>>>>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
> >>>>>>>> without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
> >>>>>>>> receiving the included
> >>>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational
> >>>>>>>> purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web
> >>>>>>>> sites. For more information
> >>>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
> >>>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
> >>>>>>>> purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain
> >>>>>>>> permission from the copyright owner.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
> >>>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
> >>>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stupid homophobe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
> >>>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy person.
> >>>
> >>> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was determined
> >>> by the mental health people to be a mental disease. (fags are crazy
> >>> people )
> >>> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
> >>> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
> >>> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
> >>> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
> >>>
> >> Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious kook.
> >>
> >
> > The Homosexual lifestyle should not be encouraged for various reasons.
> > As seen above, the Homosexual lifestyle is a symptom of self distructive
> > mental disease. It is a conduit for STD's such as AIDS and what will be
> > the
> > _next_ AIDS
> >
> > http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
> >
> > [quote stt]
> > a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had
> > more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed
> > 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed
> > 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex
> > partners.
> > Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are
> > concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s.
> > The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a
> > greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS,
> > syphilis and other STDs
> >
> > [quopte fin]
> >
> > . The Teachers Federation supports the
> > Homosexual lifestyle and the teachers have taught _you_ to support
> > the Homosexual lifestyle.
> >
> > The Homosexual lifestyle involves high risk sexual behaviour
> > and as such, you are a potential victim of this abuse and perversion
> > of sexual mores.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure is a
> >>>> gay basher.
> >>>
> >>> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
> >>> find their lifestylr disgusting?
> >>>
> >>> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
> >>> not be encouraged?.
> >>>
> >>> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
> >>>
> >>> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
> >>>
> >> *sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms
> >> people. Two adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their
> >> own bedroom does not harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.
> >
> > Tell it to the millions of family members who have lost people to AIDS
> > which the Homosexual Lifestyle spread to the world and spread to
> > heterosexuals and druggies.Or the _next_ STD which like AIDS
> > will be transmitted to the world (or maybe has been and we are waiting to
> > see the terminal phase of the disease start occuring
> >
> > With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
> > their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
> > negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
> > one's bedroom.
> >
> >
> >
> Heterosexuals get aids as well, does that mean straight sex should be
> banned? That's what happens when you don't wear protection. You poor sad
> deluded kook.

People suffering from serious illness deserve help and compassion.
All that is possible should be done to prevent, reduce and eliminate
their pain and suffering.

The correlation between homosexuality and the incidence of AIDS:

[View using a fixed-width font to preserve columns in the table}

Adults and Adolescents With AIDS, 1981-87 ==================== Both ===
Males % Females % Sexes %
=======================================================================
Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 50,325 62
Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20
Homosexual male and IV drug abusers 15,529 8 5,874 7
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1
Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4
Blood transfusion 1,297 2 747 11 2,044 3
Undetermined [1] 2,143 3 519 7 2,662 3
=======================================================================
Total 74,435 6,983 81,418
=======================================================================

Please contact the source of the above data, Centers for Disease
Control for explanations and more information.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 11 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 5:47 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
message news:20100220C2y1LtgYV4k6IngLlCcozmI@CK63l...
> In article <efCdnYEjlqPu7B3WnZ2dnUVZ_vAAAAAA@westnet.com.au>,
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:
>>
>>
>>
>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>> news:4b802299@news.comindico.com.au...
>> > Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> >> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>> >> news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
>> >>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> >>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
>> >>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> >>>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
>> >>>>>>>> The Sun, UK
>> >>>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in a new
>> >>>>>>>> US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a magazine: "I
>> >>>>>>>> think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who
>> >>>>>>>> understood human problems."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don't
>> >>>>>>>> know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the
>> >>>>>>>> Middle East - you're as good as dead."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and DAVID
>> >>>>>>>> FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got together.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was attracted to David
>> >>>>>>>> immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The next night
>> >>>>>>>> we had dinner.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone younger.
>> >>>>>>>> I wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them around the
>> >>>>>>>> world, try to educate them.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace outfit,
>> >>>>>>>> maybe a sports car.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd
>> >>>>>>>> taken their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended to."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Read more:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>>
>> >>>>>>>> More at:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>> >>>>>>>> educational
>> >>>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
>> >>>>>>>> post may not
>> >>>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>> >>>>>>>> opinion of the
>> >>>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>> >>>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
>> >>>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
>> >>>>>>>> read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full
>> >>>>>>>> legal name, current
>> >>>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>> >>>>>>>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
>> >>>>>>>> others are
>> >>>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
>> >>>>>>>> the article.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material
>> >>>>>>>> the use of which may or may not have been specifically
>> >>>>>>>> authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made
>> >>>>>>>> available in efforts to advance the understanding of
>> >>>>>>>> environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic,
>> >>>>>>>> scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
>> >>>>>>>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
>> >>>>>>>> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
>> >>>>>>>> In accordance with Title
>> >>>>>>>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
>> >>>>>>>> without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
>> >>>>>>>> receiving the included
>> >>>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational
>> >>>>>>>> purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web
>> >>>>>>>> sites. For more information
>> >>>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>> >>>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
>> >>>>>>>> purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain
>> >>>>>>>> permission from the copyright owner.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>> >>>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>> >>>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Stupid homophobe.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
>> >>>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy person.
>> >>>
>> >>> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was determined
>> >>> by the mental health people to be a mental disease. (fags are crazy
>> >>> people )
>> >>> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
>> >>> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
>> >>> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
>> >>> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
>> >>>
>> >> Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious kook.
>> >>
>> >
>> > The Homosexual lifestyle should not be encouraged for various reasons.
>> > As seen above, the Homosexual lifestyle is a symptom of self
>> > distructive
>> > mental disease. It is a conduit for STD's such as AIDS and what will be
>> > the
>> > _next_ AIDS
>> >
>> > http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
>> >
>> > [quote stt]
>> > a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have
>> > had
>> > more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed
>> > 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed
>> > 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex
>> > partners.
>> > Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are
>> > concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the
>> > 1970s.
>> > The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a
>> > greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS,
>> > syphilis and other STDs
>> >
>> > [quopte fin]
>> >
>> > . The Teachers Federation supports the
>> > Homosexual lifestyle and the teachers have taught _you_ to support
>> > the Homosexual lifestyle.
>> >
>> > The Homosexual lifestyle involves high risk sexual behaviour
>> > and as such, you are a potential victim of this abuse and perversion
>> > of sexual mores.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure is a
>> >>>> gay basher.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
>> >>> find their lifestylr disgusting?
>> >>>
>> >>> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
>> >>> not be encouraged?.
>> >>>
>> >>> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
>> >>>
>> >>> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
>> >>>
>> >> *sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms
>> >> people. Two adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their
>> >> own bedroom does not harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.
>> >
>> > Tell it to the millions of family members who have lost people to AIDS
>> > which the Homosexual Lifestyle spread to the world and spread to
>> > heterosexuals and druggies.Or the _next_ STD which like AIDS
>> > will be transmitted to the world (or maybe has been and we are waiting
>> > to
>> > see the terminal phase of the disease start occuring
>> >
>> > With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>> > their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>> > negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>> > one's bedroom.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Heterosexuals get aids as well, does that mean straight sex should be
>> banned? That's what happens when you don't wear protection. You poor sad
>> deluded kook.
>
> People suffering from serious illness deserve help and compassion.
> All that is possible should be done to prevent, reduce and eliminate
> their pain and suffering.
>
> The correlation between homosexuality and the incidence of AIDS:
>
> [View using a fixed-width font to preserve columns in the table}
>
> Adults and Adolescents With AIDS, 1981-87 ==================== Both ===
> Males % Females % Sexes %
> =======================================================================
> Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 50,325 62
> Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20
> Homosexual male and IV drug abusers 15,529 8 5,874 7
> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1
> Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4
> Blood transfusion 1,297 2 747 11 2,044 3
> Undetermined [1] 2,143 3 519 7 2,662 3
> =======================================================================
> Total 74,435 6,983 81,418
> =======================================================================
>
> Please contact the source of the above data, Centers for Disease
> Control for explanations and more information.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
Your ignorance and hatred are noted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids#Cause

Cause

Poor access to health care and the existence of coexisting infections such
as tuberculosis also may predispose people to faster disease
progression.[38][41][42] The infected person's genetic inheritance plays an
important role and some people are resistant to certain strains of HIV. An
example of this is people with the homozygous CCR5-?32 variation are
resistant to infection with certain strains of HIV.[43] HIV is genetically
variable and exists as different strains, which cause different rates of
clinical disease progression.[44][45][46]
Sexual transmission

Sexual transmission occurs with the contact between sexual secretions of one
person with the rectal, genital or oral mucous membranes of another.
Unprotected sexual acts are riskier for the receptive partner than for the
insertive partner, and the risk for transmitting HIV through unprotected
anal intercourse is greater than the risk from vaginal intercourse or oral
sex.[citation needed]

However, oral sex is not entirely safe, as HIV can be transmitted through
both insertive and receptive oral sex.[47][48] Sexual assault greatly
increases the risk of HIV transmission as condoms are rarely employed and
physical trauma to the vagina or rectum occurs frequently, facilitating the
transmission of HIV.[49]

Other sexually transmitted infections (STI) increase the risk of HIV
transmission and infection, because they cause the disruption of the normal
epithelial barrier by genital ulceration and/or microulceration; and by
accumulation of pools of HIV-susceptible or HIV-infected cells (lymphocytes
and macrophages) in semen and vaginal secretions. Epidemiological studies
from sub-Saharan Africa, Europe and North America suggest that genital
ulcers, such as those caused by syphilis and/or chancroid, increase the risk
of becoming infected with HIV by about fourfold. There is also a significant
although lesser increase in risk from STIs such as gonorrhea, chlamydia and
trichomoniasis, which all cause local accumulations of lymphocytes and
macrophages.[50]

Transmission of HIV depends on the infectiousness of the index case and the
susceptibility of the uninfected partner. Infectivity seems to vary during
the course of illness and is not constant between individuals. An
undetectable plasma viral load does not necessarily indicate a low viral
load in the seminal liquid or genital secretions.

However, each 10-fold increase in the level of HIV in the blood is
associated with an 81% increased rate of HIV transmission.[50][51] Women are
more susceptible to HIV-1 infection due to hormonal changes, vaginal
microbial ecology and physiology, and a higher prevalence of sexually
transmitted diseases.[52][53]

People who have been infected with one strain of HIV can still be infected
later on in their lives by other, more virulent strains.

Infection is unlikely in a single encounter. High rates of infection have
been linked to a pattern of overlapping long-term sexual relationships. This
allows the virus to quickly spread to multiple partners who in turn infect
their partners. A pattern of serial monogamy or occasional casual encounters
is associated with lower rates of infection.[54]

HIV spreads readily through heterosexual sex in Africa, but less so
elsewhere. One possibility being researched is that schistosomiasis, which
affects up to 50% of women in parts of Africa, damages the lining of the
vagina.[55][56]

== 12 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 7:17 pm
From: uNmaiviLambi


On Feb 20, 6:34 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > Homosexuality is a perversion
>
> Let me guess we should all repent to your Gawd right?

You do not have to worship God at all, let alone repent! All you have
to know is that the penis gets erect only to be able to deposit the
sperm so deep so it has a better chance to meet the ovum. Poor sperm
will never expect to meet shit! It is an insult to 300 million living
sperms!

It is like eating through the anus. Is that an alternate life style?

== 13 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 7:33 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"uNmaiviLambi" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:61f92c6e-9a1a-4430-9ea8-2f6628e87ed0@c10g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 20, 6:34 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> > Homosexuality is a perversion
>>
>> Let me guess we should all repent to your Gawd right?
>
> You do not have to worship God at all, let alone repent! All you have
> to know is that the penis gets erect only to be able to deposit the
> sperm so deep so it has a better chance to meet the ovum. Poor sperm
> will never expect to meet shit! It is an insult to 300 million living
> sperms!
>
> It is like eating through the anus. Is that an alternate life style?
>
Yes and while we may think that act is disgusting as well if it is done in
the privacy of their own bedroom people should have every right to do
whatever perverted crap they want. As long as two adults agree to perform
the act and no one is forced into it who cares? Seriously?

== 14 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 7:50 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <lp-dnWLH3dh7NB3WnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>,
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:

> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:61f92c6e-9a1a-4430-9ea8-2f6628e87ed0@c10g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
?
> > On Feb 20, 6:34 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >> > Homosexuality is a perversion

> >> Let me guess we should all repent to your Gawd right?

> > You do not have to worship God at all, let alone repent! All you have
> > to know is that the penis gets erect only to be able to deposit the
> > sperm so deep so it has a better chance to meet the ovum. Poor sperm
> > will never expect to meet shit! It is an insult to 300 million living
> > sperms!
> >
> > It is like eating through the anus. Is that an alternate life style?

> Yes and while we may think that act is disgusting as well if it is done in
> the privacy of their own bedroom people should have every right to do
> whatever perverted crap they want. As long as two adults agree to perform
> the act and no one is forced into it who cares? Seriously?

Everyone cares.

People suffering from serious illness deserve help and compassion.
All that is possible should be done to prevent, reduce and eliminate
their pain and suffering.

The correlation between homosexuality and the incidence of AIDS:

[View using a fixed-width font to preserve columns in the table}

Adults and Adolescents With AIDS, 1981-87 ==================== Both ===
Males % Females % Sexes %
=======================================================================
Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 50,325 62
Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20
Homosexual male and IV drug abusers 15,529 8 5,874 7
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1
Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4
Blood transfusion 1,297 2 747 11 2,044 3
Undetermined [1] 2,143 3 519 7 2,662 3
=======================================================================
Total 74,435 6,983 81,418
=======================================================================

Please contact the source of the above data, Centers for Disease
Control for explanations and more information.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 15 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 7:58 pm
From: "regn.pickfod"


Seon Ferguson wrote:
> "usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote
> in message news:20100220C2y1LtgYV4k6IngLlCcozmI@CK63l...
>> In article <efCdnYEjlqPu7B3WnZ2dnUVZ_vAAAAAA@westnet.com.au>,
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>> news:4b802299@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
>>>>>>>>>>> The Sun, UK
>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in
>>>>>>>>>>> a new US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a
>>>>>>>>>>> magazine: "I think Jesus was a compassionate,
>>>>>>>>>>> super-intelligent gay man who understood human problems."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay
>>>>>>>>>>> woman in the Middle East - you're as good as dead."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and
>>>>>>>>>>> DAVID FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got
>>>>>>>>>>> together. The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was
>>>>>>>>>>> attracted to
>>>>>>>>>>> David immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The
>>>>>>>>>>> next night we had dinner.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone
>>>>>>>>>>> younger. I wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them
>>>>>>>>>>> around the world, try to educate them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace
>>>>>>>>>>> outfit, maybe a sports car.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd
>>>>>>>>>>> taken their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended
>>>>>>>>>>> to." Read more:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More at:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for
>>>>>>>>>>> the educational
>>>>>>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of
>>>>>>>>>>> this post may not
>>>>>>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the
>>>>>>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>>>>>>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
>>>>>>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not
>>>>>>>>>>> be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your
>>>>>>>>>>> full legal name, current
>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone
>>>>>>>>>>> number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views
>>>>>>>>>>> expressed by others are
>>>>>>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have
>>>>>>>>>>> read the article.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted
>>>>>>>>>>> material the use of which may or may not have been
>>>>>>>>>>> specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This
>>>>>>>>>>> material is being made available in efforts to advance the
>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of environmental, political, human rights,
>>>>>>>>>>> economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair
>>>>>>>>>>> use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in
>>>>>>>>>>> section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with
>>>>>>>>>>> Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is
>>>>>>>>>>> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a
>>>>>>>>>>> prior interest in receiving the included
>>>>>>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and
>>>>>>>>>>> educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or
>>>>>>>>>>> visiting web sites. For more information
>>>>>>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article
>>>>>>>>>>> for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you
>>>>>>>>>>> must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>>>>>>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>>>>>>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stupid homophobe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
>>>>>>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy
>>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was
>>>>>> determined by the mental health people to be a mental disease.
>>>>>> (fags are crazy people )
>>>>>> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
>>>>>> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
>>>>>> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
>>>>>> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious
>>>>> kook.
>>>>
>>>> The Homosexual lifestyle should not be encouraged for various
>>>> reasons. As seen above, the Homosexual lifestyle is a symptom of self
>>>> distructive
>>>> mental disease. It is a conduit for STD's such as AIDS and what
>>>> will be the
>>>> _next_ AIDS
>>>>
>>>> http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
>>>>
>>>> [quote stt]
>>>> a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to
>>>> have had
>>>> more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed
>>>> 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent
>>>> claimed 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime
>>>> male sex partners.
>>>> Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are
>>>> concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the
>>>> 1970s.
>>>> The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a
>>>> greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS,
>>>> syphilis and other STDs
>>>>
>>>> [quopte fin]
>>>>
>>>> . The Teachers Federation supports the
>>>> Homosexual lifestyle and the teachers have taught _you_ to support
>>>> the Homosexual lifestyle.
>>>>
>>>> The Homosexual lifestyle involves high risk sexual behaviour
>>>> and as such, you are a potential victim of this abuse and
>>>> perversion of sexual mores.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure
>>>>>>> is a gay basher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
>>>>>> find their lifestylr disgusting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
>>>>>> not be encouraged?.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
>>>>>>
>>>>> *sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms
>>>>> people. Two adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their
>>>>> own bedroom does not harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.
>>>>
>>>> Tell it to the millions of family members who have lost people to
>>>> AIDS which the Homosexual Lifestyle spread to the world and spread
>>>> to heterosexuals and druggies.Or the _next_ STD which like AIDS
>>>> will be transmitted to the world (or maybe has been and we are
>>>> waiting to
>>>> see the terminal phase of the disease start occuring
>>>>
>>>> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>>>> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>>>> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>>>> one's bedroom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Heterosexuals get aids as well, does that mean straight sex should
>>> be banned? That's what happens when you don't wear protection. You
>>> poor sad deluded kook.
>>
>> People suffering from serious illness deserve help and compassion.
>> All that is possible should be done to prevent, reduce and eliminate
>> their pain and suffering.
>>
>> The correlation between homosexuality and the incidence of AIDS:
>>
>> [View using a fixed-width font to preserve columns in the table}
>>
>> Adults and Adolescents With AIDS, 1981-87 ==================== Both
>> === Males % Females % Sexes %
>> =======================================================================
>> Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 50,325 62
>> Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20
>> Homosexual male and IV drug abusers 15,529 8 5,874 7
>> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1
>> Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4
>> Blood transfusion 1,297 2
>> 747 11 2,044 3 Undetermined [1] 2,143 3 519
>> 7 2,662 3
>> =======================================================================
>> Total 74,435 6,983 81,418
>> =======================================================================
>>
>> Please contact the source of the above data, Centers for Disease
>> Control for explanations and more information.
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>>
> Your ignorance and hatred are noted.
>

Silly thing to say. There was neither ignorance nor hate
in the post


> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids#Cause
>
> Cause
>
> Poor access to health care and the existence of coexisting infections
> such as tuberculosis also may predispose people to faster disease
> progression.[38][41][42] The infected person's genetic inheritance
> plays an important role and some people are resistant to certain
> strains of HIV. An example of this is people with the homozygous
> CCR5-?32 variation are resistant to infection with certain strains of
> HIV.[43] HIV is genetically variable and exists as different strains,
> which cause different rates of clinical disease
> progression.[44][45][46] Sexual transmission
>
> Sexual transmission occurs with the contact between sexual secretions
> of one person with the rectal, genital or oral mucous membranes of
> another. Unprotected sexual acts are riskier for the receptive
> partner than for the insertive partner, and the risk for transmitting
> HIV through unprotected anal intercourse is greater than the risk
> from vaginal intercourse or oral sex.[citation needed]
>

here it is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex

[quote stt]
The high concentration of white blood cells around the rectum,
together with the risk of cuts to the rectum and that one of the
functions of the rectum is to absorb fluid, increases the risk
of HIV transmission because the HIV retrovirus reproduces
within the immune system's T-cells/CD4 cells.
[quote fin]


> However, oral sex is not entirely safe, as HIV can be transmitted
> through both insertive and receptive oral sex.[47][48] Sexual assault
> greatly increases the risk of HIV transmission as condoms are rarely
> employed and physical trauma to the vagina or rectum occurs
> frequently, facilitating the transmission of HIV.[49]
>
> Other sexually transmitted infections (STI) increase the risk of HIV
> transmission and infection, because they cause the disruption of the
> normal epithelial barrier by genital ulceration and/or
> microulceration; and by accumulation of pools of HIV-susceptible or
> HIV-infected cells (lymphocytes and macrophages) in semen and vaginal
> secretions. Epidemiological studies from sub-Saharan Africa, Europe
> and North America suggest that genital ulcers, such as those caused
> by syphilis and/or chancroid, increase the risk of becoming infected
> with HIV by about fourfold. There is also a significant although
> lesser increase in risk from STIs such as gonorrhea, chlamydia and
> trichomoniasis, which all cause local accumulations of lymphocytes
> and macrophages.[50]
> Transmission of HIV depends on the infectiousness of the index case
> and the susceptibility of the uninfected partner. Infectivity seems
> to vary during the course of illness and is not constant between
> individuals. An undetectable plasma viral load does not necessarily
> indicate a low viral load in the seminal liquid or genital secretions.
>
> However, each 10-fold increase in the level of HIV in the blood is
> associated with an 81% increased rate of HIV transmission.[50][51]
> Women are more susceptible to HIV-1 infection due to hormonal
> changes, vaginal microbial ecology and physiology, and a higher
> prevalence of sexually transmitted diseases.[52][53]
>
> People who have been infected with one strain of HIV can still be
> infected later on in their lives by other, more virulent strains.
>
> Infection is unlikely in a single encounter. High rates of infection
> have been linked to a pattern of overlapping long-term sexual
> relationships. This allows the virus to quickly spread to multiple
> partners who in turn infect their partners. A pattern of serial
> monogamy or occasional casual encounters is associated with lower
> rates of infection.[54]
> HIV spreads readily through heterosexual sex in Africa, but less so
> elsewhere. One possibility being researched is that schistosomiasis,
> which affects up to 50% of women in parts of Africa, damages the
> lining of the vagina.[55][56]

If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks then the reason
is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex? circumsision?

That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these ever since
why is it _now_ a problem.


== 16 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 8:11 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
message news:20100220ADYbB24W5628qwjlW9X736v@IgT7A...
> In article <lp-dnWLH3dh7NB3WnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>,
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:
>
>> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:61f92c6e-9a1a-4430-9ea8-2f6628e87ed0@c10g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
> ?
>> > On Feb 20, 6:34 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> > Homosexuality is a perversion
>
>> >> Let me guess we should all repent to your Gawd right?
>
>> > You do not have to worship God at all, let alone repent! All you have
>> > to know is that the penis gets erect only to be able to deposit the
>> > sperm so deep so it has a better chance to meet the ovum. Poor sperm
>> > will never expect to meet shit! It is an insult to 300 million living
>> > sperms!
>> >
>> > It is like eating through the anus. Is that an alternate life style?
>
>> Yes and while we may think that act is disgusting as well if it is done
>> in
>> the privacy of their own bedroom people should have every right to do
>> whatever perverted crap they want. As long as two adults agree to perform
>> the act and no one is forced into it who cares? Seriously?
>
> Everyone cares.
>
Only ignorant hateful assholes like you. Your just as bad as the Christian
fundies.

== 17 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 8:12 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
news:4b80af52@news.comindico.com.au...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> "usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote
>> in message news:20100220C2y1LtgYV4k6IngLlCcozmI@CK63l...
>>> In article <efCdnYEjlqPu7B3WnZ2dnUVZ_vAAAAAA@westnet.com.au>,
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b802299@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4b7f520a@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>> "regn.pickfod" <regn@mysoul.cop.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4b7ef4ad@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Bob Hawke" <bobhawke@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4b7df8b8$0$10265$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Elton: Jesus was a gay lord
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Caption] Icons ... Elton John and Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By Pete Samson, US Editor
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Sun, UK
>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, February 19, 2010
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JESUS was GAY -- according to the gospel of SIR ELTON JOHN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The singer makes his controversial claim about the Lord in
>>>>>>>>>>>> a new US interview that will enrage America's bible belt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Elton, 62, declares as he pours out his heart to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> magazine: "I think Jesus was a compassionate,
>>>>>>>>>>>> super-intelligent gay man who understood human problems."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He adds: "Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay
>>>>>>>>>>>> woman in the Middle East - you're as good as dead."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He goes on in the same interview to describe how he and
>>>>>>>>>>>> DAVID FURNISH, 47 -- now his "husband" -- first got
>>>>>>>>>>>> together. The pop veteran tells Parade magazine: "I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> attracted to
>>>>>>>>>>>> David immediately. He was very well dressed, very shy. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> next night we had dinner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "After it, we fell in love very quickly."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He said of previous lovers: "I'd always choose someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> younger. I wanted to smother them with love. I'd take them
>>>>>>>>>>>> around the world, try to educate them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "One after another they got a Cartier watch, a Versace
>>>>>>>>>>>> outfit, maybe a sports car.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "They didn't have jobs. They were reliant on me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "In six months they were bored and hated my guts because I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> taken their lives and self-worth away. I hadn't intended
>>>>>>>>>>>> to." Read more:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html#ixzz0fwW9QryT
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More at:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2859895/Elton-John-claims-Jesus-was-gay.html
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the educational
>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of
>>>>>>>>>>>> this post may not
>>>>>>>>>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
>>>>>>>>>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not
>>>>>>>>>>>> be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your
>>>>>>>>>>>> full legal name, current
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone
>>>>>>>>>>>> number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views
>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed by others are
>>>>>>>>>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have
>>>>>>>>>>>> read the article.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted
>>>>>>>>>>>> material the use of which may or may not have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This
>>>>>>>>>>>> material is being made available in efforts to advance the
>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of environmental, political, human rights,
>>>>>>>>>>>> economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural,
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair
>>>>>>>>>>>> use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in
>>>>>>>>>>>> section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is
>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a
>>>>>>>>>>>> prior interest in receiving the included
>>>>>>>>>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and
>>>>>>>>>>>> educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or
>>>>>>>>>>>> visiting web sites. For more information
>>>>>>>>>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article
>>>>>>>>>>>> for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you
>>>>>>>>>>>> must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>>>>>>>>>>>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>>>>>>>>>>>> this post may be reposted several times.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid FAGGOT!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stupid homophobe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought I weaned you off using that silly word `Homophobe'
>>>>>>>>> you are backsliding into homosexual agenda nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lol anyone who believes in the homosexual agenda is a crazy
>>>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not anyone or everyone but most of them. Homosexuality was
>>>>>>> determined by the mental health people to be a mental disease.
>>>>>>> (fags are crazy people )
>>>>>>> but this was changed a decade or so ago (an early victory for the
>>>>>>> Homosexual Agenda) Now the mental disease of Homosexuality is
>>>>>>> described as a `condition` with an increased _risk_ of self harm,
>>>>>>> drug abuse, diseases,depression and suicide etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just admit you don't like gay people because you are a religious
>>>>>> kook.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Homosexual lifestyle should not be encouraged for various
>>>>> reasons. As seen above, the Homosexual lifestyle is a symptom of self
>>>>> distructive
>>>>> mental disease. It is a conduit for STD's such as AIDS and what
>>>>> will be the
>>>>> _next_ AIDS
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
>>>>>
>>>>> [quote stt]
>>>>> a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to
>>>>> have had
>>>>> more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed
>>>>> 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent
>>>>> claimed 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime
>>>>> male sex partners.
>>>>> Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are
>>>>> concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the
>>>>> 1970s.
>>>>> The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a
>>>>> greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS,
>>>>> syphilis and other STDs
>>>>>
>>>>> [quopte fin]
>>>>>
>>>>> . The Teachers Federation supports the
>>>>> Homosexual lifestyle and the teachers have taught _you_ to support
>>>>> the Homosexual lifestyle.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Homosexual lifestyle involves high risk sexual behaviour
>>>>> and as such, you are a potential victim of this abuse and
>>>>> perversion of sexual mores.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> End of story. He may not be afraid of homosexuals but he sure
>>>>>>>> is a gay basher.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have an irrational fear of pedophiles or do you simply
>>>>>>> find their lifestylr disgusting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say (I assume) pedophilia should be unlawfull and
>>>>>>> not be encouraged?.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would that make you a pederastophobe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or a normal person who is disgusted at disgusting behaviour?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *sigh* the typical arguments of the gay basher. Pedophilia harms
>>>>>> people. Two adults performing a sexual act in the privacy of their
>>>>>> own bedroom does not harm anyone. Except for whack jobs like you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell it to the millions of family members who have lost people to
>>>>> AIDS which the Homosexual Lifestyle spread to the world and spread
>>>>> to heterosexuals and druggies.Or the _next_ STD which like AIDS
>>>>> will be transmitted to the world (or maybe has been and we are
>>>>> waiting to
>>>>> see the terminal phase of the disease start occuring
>>>>>
>>>>> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>>>>> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>>>>> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>>>>> one's bedroom.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Heterosexuals get aids as well, does that mean straight sex should
>>>> be banned? That's what happens when you don't wear protection. You
>>>> poor sad deluded kook.
>>>
>>> People suffering from serious illness deserve help and compassion.
>>> All that is possible should be done to prevent, reduce and eliminate
>>> their pain and suffering.
>>>
>>> The correlation between homosexuality and the incidence of AIDS:
>>>
>>> [View using a fixed-width font to preserve columns in the table}
>>>
>>> Adults and Adolescents With AIDS, 1981-87 ==================== Both
>>> === Males % Females % Sexes
>>> %
>>> =======================================================================
>>> Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 50,325 62
>>> Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20
>>> Homosexual male and IV drug abusers 15,529 8 5,874 7
>>> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1
>>> Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4
>>> Blood transfusion 1,297 2
>>> 747 11 2,044 3 Undetermined [1] 2,143 3 519
>>> 7 2,662 3
>>> =======================================================================
>>> Total 74,435 6,983 81,418
>>> =======================================================================
>>>
>>> Please contact the source of the above data, Centers for Disease
>>> Control for explanations and more information.
>>>
>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>> Om Shanti
>>>
>> Your ignorance and hatred are noted.
>>
>
> Silly thing to say. There was neither ignorance nor hate
> in the post
>
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids#Cause
>>
>> Cause
>>
>> Poor access to health care and the existence of coexisting infections
>> such as tuberculosis also may predispose people to faster disease
>> progression.[38][41][42] The infected person's genetic inheritance
>> plays an important role and some people are resistant to certain
>> strains of HIV. An example of this is people with the homozygous
>> CCR5-?32 variation are resistant to infection with certain strains of
>> HIV.[43] HIV is genetically variable and exists as different strains,
>> which cause different rates of clinical disease
>> progression.[44][45][46] Sexual transmission
>>
>> Sexual transmission occurs with the contact between sexual secretions
>> of one person with the rectal, genital or oral mucous membranes of
>> another. Unprotected sexual acts are riskier for the receptive
>> partner than for the insertive partner, and the risk for transmitting
>> HIV through unprotected anal intercourse is greater than the risk
>> from vaginal intercourse or oral sex.[citation needed]
>>
>
> here it is
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex
>
> [quote stt]
> The high concentration of white blood cells around the rectum,
> together with the risk of cuts to the rectum and that one of the
> functions of the rectum is to absorb fluid, increases the risk
> of HIV transmission because the HIV retrovirus reproduces
> within the immune system's T-cells/CD4 cells.
> [quote fin]
>
>
>> However, oral sex is not entirely safe, as HIV can be transmitted
>> through both insertive and receptive oral sex.[47][48] Sexual assault
>> greatly increases the risk of HIV transmission as condoms are rarely
>> employed and physical trauma to the vagina or rectum occurs
>> frequently, facilitating the transmission of HIV.[49]
>>
>> Other sexually transmitted infections (STI) increase the risk of HIV
>> transmission and infection, because they cause the disruption of the
>> normal epithelial barrier by genital ulceration and/or
>> microulceration; and by accumulation of pools of HIV-susceptible or
>> HIV-infected cells (lymphocytes and macrophages) in semen and vaginal
>> secretions. Epidemiological studies from sub-Saharan Africa, Europe
>> and North America suggest that genital ulcers, such as those caused
>> by syphilis and/or chancroid, increase the risk of becoming infected
>> with HIV by about fourfold. There is also a significant although
>> lesser increase in risk from STIs such as gonorrhea, chlamydia and
>> trichomoniasis, which all cause local accumulations of lymphocytes
>> and macrophages.[50]
>> Transmission of HIV depends on the infectiousness of the index case
>> and the susceptibility of the uninfected partner. Infectivity seems
>> to vary during the course of illness and is not constant between
>> individuals. An undetectable plasma viral load does not necessarily
>> indicate a low viral load in the seminal liquid or genital secretions.
>>
>> However, each 10-fold increase in the level of HIV in the blood is
>> associated with an 81% increased rate of HIV transmission.[50][51]
>> Women are more susceptible to HIV-1 infection due to hormonal
>> changes, vaginal microbial ecology and physiology, and a higher
>> prevalence of sexually transmitted diseases.[52][53]
>>
>> People who have been infected with one strain of HIV can still be
>> infected later on in their lives by other, more virulent strains.
>>
>> Infection is unlikely in a single encounter. High rates of infection
>> have been linked to a pattern of overlapping long-term sexual
>> relationships. This allows the virus to quickly spread to multiple
>> partners who in turn infect their partners. A pattern of serial
>> monogamy or occasional casual encounters is associated with lower
>> rates of infection.[54]
>> HIV spreads readily through heterosexual sex in Africa, but less so
>> elsewhere. One possibility being researched is that schistosomiasis,
>> which affects up to 50% of women in parts of Africa, damages the
>> lining of the vagina.[55][56]
>
> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks then the
> reason
> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex? circumsision?
>
> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these ever since
> why is it _now_ a problem.
>
Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and straight sex. So
there goes your theory that homosexuals are the only cause.

== 18 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 8:13 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


WHY HOMOSEXUALITY MUST BE REJECTED

Excerpts

"Study: Gay, bisexual teens more at risk

"Homosexual and bisexual high school students
are more likely to engage in risky sexual and
drug-related activity than their heterosexual peers,
according to a study published Monday.

"They also are more likely to have attempted
suicide . . . report by Harvard Medical School, the
Massachusetts Department of Education and Wake Forest
University.

"The findings were based on a review of a 1995
government survey of more than 4,000 youngsters . . ."

[...] End of Excerpts

- Reuters, Chicago, Illinois, USA, May 5, 1998.


AIDS - HOMO/BI/SEXUAL LIFESTYLE MOST DESTRUCTIVE

When it comes to AIDS, unless there are facts to invalidate the
following information, it is evident that the homo/bi/sexual
lifestyle is overwhelmingly the most destructive among those listed:

"Who Are The Patients?

"In the United States, homosexual and bisexual males make up
approximately 62 percent of the total patients. The other major group
afflicted with AIDS are intravenous drug abusers -- both men and women --
who constitute 20 percent of the total. . . ."

"ADULTS AND ADOLESCENTS WITH AIDS, 1981-87

================================== Males % Females % Both sexes %
Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 0 50,325 62
Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20
Homosexual male an IV drug abusers 5,874 8 5,874 7
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1
Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4
Blood transfusion 1,297 2 747 11 2,044 3
Undetermined (1) 2,143 3 519 7 2,662 3
TOTAL 74,435 91 6,983 9 81,418 100
=========================================================================

"Note: Provisional data. Cases with more than one risk factor than the
combinations listed are tabulated only in the category listed first.
(1) Includes patients on whom risk information is incomplete, patients
still under investigation, men reported only to have had heterosexual
contact with a prostitute, and patients for whom no specific risk was
identified; also includes one health care worker who developed AIDS after
a documented needle-stick to blood. Source: Centers for Disease Control."

=========================================================================
Cited in "The Universal Almanac 1990", Andrews and McMeel, 1989.
=========================================================================

Readers are invited to post data supporting or opposing the above.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 19 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 8:52 pm
From: "regn.pickfod"


Seon Ferguson wrote:
> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bb43ba83-bc04-4157-bef0-a1c39562cd38@l1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 20, 12:57 pm, "regn.pickfod" <r...@mysoul.cop.au> wrote:
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> With a third of Homosexuals claiming 1000+ partners in
>>> their lifetime it is not as you foolishly believe and have been
>>> negligently taught to believe, harmless _or_ happening within
>>> one's bedroom.
>>
>> Homosexuality is a perversion
>
> Let me guess we should all repent to your Gawd right?

You should read

http://christiananswers.net/bible/gen1.html

then you might have a different perspective and achieve
better understanding if you were to read

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

How does one explain the timeline issues

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation

how does it all fit together

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything

or /and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson


== 20 of 20 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 8:51 pm
From: "HD"

"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:-Oydnf27L8YELx3WnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>
>>
>> If it spreads readily through Heterosexual Effrikahn Blecks then the
>> reason
>> is something other than Heterosexuality?Rapes?Anal sex? circumsision?
>>
>> That aside, if Aids originated in Africa and has been these ever since
>> why is it _now_ a problem.
>>
> Because it spread through UNPROTECTED SEX both gay sex and straight sex.
> So there goes your theory that homosexuals are the only cause.

They are not.
Your idea that it is okay for adult people to whatever they want is the
cause of AIDS.
In Thailand, 700.000 people have aids.
In the Philippines which has a similar population, about 12.000 people have
aids.
But the Philippines have something that you don't like.
They are Catholics.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 1:20 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Corrupted Indian media

Thursday, February 18, 2010

If the fence eats away the field, who is to save the crop?
The fourth estate is becoming yet another chamcha of a corrupt regime
with little care for national interests. Who will cure the corrupt
Indian media?

S. Kalyanaraman

http://www.thehindu.com/2010/02/18/stories/2010021852821000.h

Advertising, Bollywood, Corporate power

P. Sainath
Thursday, February 18, 2010

Issues today have to be dressed up in ways certified by the corporate
media. They have to be justified not by their importance to the
public but by their acceptability to the media, their owners and
sponsors.

That the terrible tragedy in Pune demands serious, sober coverage is
a truism. One of the side-effects of the ghastly blast has been
unintended, though. The orgy of self-congratulation that marked the
media coverage of just about everything since January is now in pause
mode. Maybe the flak they copped for their handling of the November
2008 Mumbai terror blasts has something to do with it. But there is,
so far, some restraint. At least, relative to the meal they made of
the 2008 blasts.

Otherwise, through January and early February, the media stood up
bravely for freedom of expression and some other constitutional
rights you've never heard of. They slew the demons of lingual
chauvinism and worse. And they're just spoiling for a fight with any
other enemy of our proud democracy. Just so long as they can keep
Bollywood in central focus.

Every issue is now reduced to a fight between individuals, heroic,
villainous or just fun figures. So the complex issues behind the
shunning of Pakistani cricketers by the Indian Premier League are
reduced to a fight between Shah Rukh Khan and Bal Thackeray. (As one
television channel began its programme: "Shah Rukh stands tall. His
message to the nation ..."). The agonies of Bundelkhand are not about
hunger and distress in our Tiger Economy. They are just a stand-off
between Rahul Gandhi and Mayawati. The issues of language and
migrations in Maharashtra are merely a battle between Rahul Gandhi
and Uddhav Thackeray. And the coverage is all about who blinked
first, who lost face.

The devastating rise in food prices (let's skip the boring factors)
and the mess in agriculture are a face-off between Prime Minister
Manmohan Singh and Agriculture Minister Sharad Pawar. The pathetic
squabble within the Samajwadi Party is virtually a television serial.
A blow-by-blow account of Amar Singh's valiant bid to retain his
honour against Mulayam Singh's yahoos. (Indeed, some Hindi channels
have begun using the language of theatre to report it -- Act II,
Scene II. And there was one programme which Mr. Amar Singh ended
humming verses from his favourite film song). The Bt brinjal story
had mostly only one villain -- Union Environment Minister Jairam
Ramesh. He had no visible adversary unless you pose the humble
Brinjal as the hero. But that won't work for television. The other,
more sinister heroes in this media story preferred to function from
behind the scenes, plying newspapers and channels with faked data and
false information. Hell hath no fury like a powerful corporate
scorned, as the Minister is learning.

Issues? The same media that passionately fought for freedom of
expression for a month from mid-January had billed the 2009 Lok Sabha
poll as one without issues. The country was actually burning with
them, but they didn't make good television either. More accurately,
the dominant media hadn't the slightest intention of covering them
with any sincerity. The story of rising food prices remains one of
the worst reported -- no matter how much space it has been given.
Sure, there have been exceptions -- as in the case of some
outstanding reports on Bundelkhand. But they've been just that.
Exceptions.

If these last six weeks have been about freedom of expression, we
have neither. Or, at best, a twisted freedom and a tortured
expression. There is little freedom for thousands of journalists in
the corporate media and the few editors who still believe we ought to
be doing a better job of informing the public on the key issues of
our time. There's very little freedom for readers or viewers, too.
For days on end, it didn't matter which television channel you
switched to, it was SRK on all of them. When that movie drew to a
close, the 'Rahul Gandhi storms Sena den' film was released and
sustained. A visit of some hours produced days of footage. But with
the end of Mr. Gandhi's visit to Mumbai, it was back to Shah Rukh
Khan. Of course, viewers had the freedom to choose, which sets us
apart from totalitarian states. They could choose any channel, from
among many, to watch SRK saying exactly the same thing, at the same
time. And they will be free to choose again when the figure is
Amitabh Bachchan or Aamir Khan.

If what we've watched on critical issues these past weeks is
expression, we're through scraping the barrel. We're drilling holes
in its bottom.

Many corporate-owned media houses have sacked hundreds of journalists
and non-journalist staff since late 2008. Hundreds of other
journalists have suffered wage cuts. Of course, the 'right to know'
of readers and viewers does not extend to this information. Why scare
the poor lambs? And how can you tell them the truth about that while
everyday crowing about the once-again booming economy? It might lead
audiences to ask that dull, boring question: "If things are so good,
why are you axing so many people?" Answering that means revealing the
interests the corporate media have in the fate of the stock market.
It means talking about their need to keep the shares of the companies
they are linked to (or have heavily invested in) afloat and buoyant.
That is regardless of how rotten they are within. No matter how their
own shares in those companies were obtained. And no agonising over
how unethical the means used to keep them heated. This was in part
behind the fatwa issued by some newspapers to their staff banning the
'R' word last year. Recession is what happens in the United States.
In India, it was a slowdown -- and it's already turning around
brilliantly. The hundreds of sacked and ruined staff have little
freedom to speak of. Even the professional communicators within them
cannot tell their own audiences their story. Cannot tell them they
were laid off, let alone tell them why.

Leave aside escaping a recession, India Shining is back. The cover
story of a leading weekly gushes over the fantastic 'rural
resurgence' that is, in fact, saving all of us. Farmers are doing
just great. Drip, micro-sprinkler, and other micro irrigation, the
stories in it suggest, played a major role in this hidden-from-the-
human-eye revival. This resurgence is seen more in urban media than
in rural India. And the proliferation of such stories across the
media spectrum reflects, in part, the strenuous media efforts of a
major Maharashtra-based company. A corporate group that spends a
fortune on propaganda and whose interests in this line of irrigation
are pushed by some of the most powerful members of the Union Cabinet.
Oddly, stories such as these come out even as the government's own
projections for growth in agriculture are dismaying.

The main 'rural resurgence' story hit the stands the same day the
National Crime Records Bureau officially brought the 2008 data for
farm suicides on to its website. The 16,196 suicides that year
brought the tally of farmers' suicides since 1997 to 199,132. That's
the largest single, sustained wave of such suicides ever recorded in
history -- anywhere. Guess nobody told them about the resurgence.
Farmers in 2008 did know of that year's loan waiver, but it didn't
stop large numbers of them from taking their lives.

The 'rural resurgence' story comes after any number of the
government's own committees, commissions and reports suggest that it
revise poverty figures upwards. Whether it's the Suresh Tendulkar
committee, the BPL Expert Group, or earlier the National Commission
for Enterprises in the Unorganised sector. Or a U.N. study which
reports that 34 million more Indians remained poor or joined their
ranks in 2008 and 2009, because of the 'slowdown.' That is, 34
million more than would have met that fate prior to the 2008 crisis.
It matters little if Census data show us that 8 million cultivators
quit agriculture between just 1991 and 2001. (That is, on average,
well over 2,000 a day, every day for 10 years.) Or that the 2011
Census just months from now will show us how many more have fled
agriculture since then, un-seduced by the rural resurgence. Never
mind the facts. One giant private irrigation company stands to make
its already huge fortune bigger. Good for growth.

The ABC of Indian media roughly translates as Advertising, Bollywood
and Corporate power. Some years ago, the 'C' would have been cricket,
but that great sport is fast becoming a small cog in the large wheel
of corporate profit. (In the IPL, the ABC of media converge, even
merge.) And, of course, everything but everything, has to be
bollywoodised. To now earn attention, issues have to be dressed up
only in ways certified by the corporate media. They have to be
justified not by their importance to the public but by their
acceptability to the media, their owners and sponsors. The more
entrenched that ABC gets, the greater the danger to the language of
democracy the media so proudly claim to champion.

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:04 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <hloiko0q59@drn.newsguy.com>,
indian@amreeka.com posted:
>
> http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/feb/20/india-ranks-6th-in-us-favourability-ratings.htm

Dhanyavaad for the URL. Here's the article:

India ranks 6th in US favourability ratings

The Rediff News Bureau
Rediff
Saturday, February 20, 2010

In a public poll conducted by renowned US polling organisation
Gallup, Americans have placed India sixth on the annual ratings of 20
countries, which have been in the news for the last one year.

A total of 66 percent Americans participating in the poll considered
India as 'totally favourable' -- of which nine percent labeled India
as 'very favourable', 57 percent Americans considered India as being
'mostly favourable', while a mere five percent Americans considered
India as 'very unfavourable', the Gallup website said.

The rating reflected a change in generational thinking towards India.

Nearly eight in every 10 young adults -- of the 18-34 age group --
thought of India favourably, while the popularity decreased with
older participants -- six in every 10 adults of 55 years and older
favoured India.

India was preceded by Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Japan and
Israel. While Canada ranked first in Americans' opinion with 90
percent of the poll participants favouring it, Iran ranked last in
the list of 20 countries with 85 percent Americans not approving of
the country.

China ranked 11th and Paksitan ranked 14th in the ratings.

The poll report said that Americans favoured eight of the countries
rated in this year's World Affairs survey that included India, apart
from Great Britain, Canada, Germany, Japan, Israel, France and
Egypt.

The results are based on responses from 1,025 American adults, and
the poll was conducted between February 1 and 13, the Gallup website
said.

More at:
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/feb/20/india-ranks-6th-in-us-favourability-ratings.htm

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:13 pm
From: "harmony"


bholu ji theek to hai?

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100219MO3QSssQkNhP92m9AgAkz9Q@OIDl7...
>A previous post from more than two years ago:
>
> [ Subject: BHOLU PRAYS FOR BURIAL IN TERRORIST PAKISTAN
> [ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
> [ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu
> [ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008
>
> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> bholu ji urdu kavvali karna chhodo, vastavik vishwa ko dekho.
>> kya aap pakistani ya banglldeshi ke hinduon ki samasyaon se agyan hai?
>
> bholu to ek musalman hee hogaa | uska dafan pakistan mein
> ho, voh to yahi prarthana karta hai |
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 3:44 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


harmony ji, "ttheek" has a different meaning when it comes to that liar and forger.

And as far as what I might know for certain about the crook, well,

phalaani grahachaarayn(n) soochayanti maneeshin(n)uh |
kovaktaa taaratamyasya tamaykum vaydhasum vinaa ||

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b806ca2$0$12419$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> bholu ji theek to hai?

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > A previous post from more than two years ago:
> >
> > [ Subject: BHOLU PRAYS FOR BURIAL IN TERRORIST PAKISTAN
> > [ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
> > [ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu
> > [ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008
> >
> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> bholu ji urdu kavvali karna chhodo, vastavik vishwa ko dekho.
> >> kya aap pakistani ya banglldeshi ke hinduon ki samasyaon se agyan hai?
> >
> > bholu to ek musalman hee hogaa | uska dafan pakistan mein
> > ho, voh to yahi prarthana karta hai |
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
>

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2010 6:01 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Hawala and looted money stashed away in tax havens (e.g. Swiss accounts)

Saturday, February 20, 2010

Shouldn't the recovery of looted wealth be a matter of concern for RBI?

S. Kalyanaraman

http://sites.google.com/site/hindunew/recovering-looted-wealth

I-T officer is off Koda probe just before hitting paydirt

Pradeep Thakur & Sonali Das, TNN, Feb 21, 2010, 12.44am IST

New Delhi/Ranchi: Ujjawal Chaudhary, senior Income Tax (I-T) officer,
who led the probe into the multi-crore Madhu Koda scam, may have been
on the verge of unravelling the link between politicians and hawala
traders when he was abruptly shifted this week.

Sources said the team led by Chaudhary, who has been taken off the
Koda probe and moved to the assessment wing, had gathered strong
evidence linking politicians and others to hawala operators engaged
in laundering black money abroad. Chaudhary was transferred when
raids were still continuing at Chaibasa in Jharkhand.

The official and his colleagues are learnt to have hit a `jackpot'
during their raids on Pune-based businessman Ajay Bafna, who was
under surveillance since October last year when the first indication
of his dealings with Sanjay Chaudhary, close associate of the former
Jharkhand chief minister Madhu Koda, surfaced.

The team struck gold also while raiding two hawala traders in Delhi.
The search of the business premises of one Vipin Kapoor, a hawala
operator based in Karol Bagh, yielded details of accounts of banks in
Switzerland and other countries which seem to belong to politicians.

Kapoor is a familiar face for tax authorities, having been convicted
for gold smuggling earlier. But evidence seized from him surprised
the raiding team given the likely connections with influential
accounts.

Within Jharkhand, raids by I-T personnel led by Chaudhary over three
days beginning February 16, reveaked disclosures of hundreds of
crores in concealed incomes of bureaucrats and businessmen. Those
targeted included Manohar Lal Pal, personal aide to current Jharkhand
chief minister Shibu Soren.

A former employee of Coal India Limited who was sacked for allegedly
forging his educational qualifications, Pal, faced with evidence,
declared assets and investments totalling up to Rs 65 crore.
Similarly, two businessmen engaged in mining -- much of it allegedly
illegal -- have also admitted to having concealed Rs 30 crore from
the tax authorities. A similar admission from a Kolkata-based
chartered accountant, accused of helping the scamsters fudge accounts
and who was confronted with papers showing he had not declared income
worth Rs 12 crore, had appeared to be on the cards when Chaudhary was
called off.

The findings of the investigation have generated a sensation in
Jharkhand and other places like Delhi and Mumbai as slueths unearthed
sordid details of the brazen loot of public money. Those who are
facing charges include officials as well as engineers working in the
mining and electricity departments.

In one particular instance, the team stumbled upon payment of Rs 4.6
crore allegedly made by cheque to functionaries of the Koda
administration by an Andhra Pradesh-based construction company. In
return, the company was allegedly allowed to inflate the cost of the
project it was assigned under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran
Yojana.

The explanation offered by the tax authorities makes Chaudhary's
transfer seem innocuous. "He will be based in Patna and his
jurisdictions will include both Bihar and Jharkhand. He has just been
shifted to the assessment wing because he is best placed to assess
the value of whatever the accused in the Koda scam and others have
been found to possess," it was said.

This does not wash with many because officers are seldom transferred
mid-way through an investigation. Chaudhary, having spent just seven
months at the last station, was not due for a transfer either. He
took charge of the investigation on July 14, 2009.

What is puzzling political circles is that the I-T's investigation is
all against politicians who, with the exception of NCP's Kamlesh
Singh, former colleague of Koda, are not part of the UPA. In fact,
many in Congress would be relishing the discomfiture of Shibu Soren
over the raid on Pal, considering that he preferred the BJP for an
alliance.

Chaudhary's transfer has been taken to the judiciary, with a group of
lawyers seeking the intervention of the Jharkhand High Court which is
hearing the PIL against Koda.

But members of his team remain wary of more transfers. It is learnt
that even during the course of investigation, Chaudhary and his team
mates did not get enough cooperation while probing business dealings
of Koda and his associates in Mumbai and elsewhere.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-officer-is-off-Koda-probe-just-before-hitting-paydirt/articleshow/5597356.cms

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