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TOPIC: RENOWNED SINGER SARA FORMAN OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SANSKRIT ROCK BAND,
MARRIES IN NEVADA *** Jai Maharaj posts
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/56fb585e241b19c6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 3:32 pm
From: "harmony"

ask him the same question benlizro is asking. i guess hte word kirastanism
is catchin on :)

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100127SSXI666r9Ad4737MoNQsJ33@CHJ7q...
> Zed will be here for a visit in a few weeks; it will be interesting to
> talk to him.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b5f899a$0$12454$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> apparently hse needs more time.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Renowned singer Sara Forman of the world's only Sanskrit rock band,
>> > marries in Nevada
>> >
>> > September 29, 2009
>> >
>> > Sara Anjuli Forman, singer of the only Sanskrit rock band of the
>> > world Shanti Shanti, married John Patrick Gracey in a traditional
>> > Catholic ceremony in Reno (Nevada, USA) on September 26 evening.
>> >
>> > Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed also blessed the couple after the
>> > Catholic ceremony held at Bishop Manogue Chapel.
>> >
>> > Shanti Shanti released their sixth album titled "Veda" on the oldest
>> > scripture of the world Vedas. This groundbreaking work, which took
>> > one year to complete involving extensive research, contains shlokas
>> > (hymns) from all four Vedas -- Rg-ved, Saam-ved, Atharv-ved, and
>> > Yajur-ved; some as old as 1,500 BCE.
>> >
>> > Sara has never been to India, never had a Sanskrit teacher, and still
>> > she can spontaneously chant, read, write, and translate Sanskrit. She
>> > has toured various countries and various states of USA with her
>> > Shanti Shanti band giving packed Sanskrit musical performances. She
>> > has been in various television shows, mentioned in various
>> > publications, and extensively written about.
>> >
>> > - Sampurn Media
>> >
>> > Visit:
>> > http://www.shantishanti.com/
>> >
>> > More at:
>> >
>>
>> http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/renowned-singer-sara-forman
>> -of-the-worlds-only-sanskrit-rock-band-marries-in-nevada_100253543.html
>> >
>> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>> > educational
>> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
>> > not
>> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of
>> > the
>> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption
>> > for
>> > fair use of copyrighted works.
>> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
>> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
>> > current
>> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
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>>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 5:10 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

That lizbo guy/gal is still around? If you don't mind, he/she can ask his/her own questions!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b60cd1f$0$12442$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> ask him the same question benlizro is asking. i guess hte word kirastanism
> is catchin on :)

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Zed will be here for a visit in a few weeks; it will be interesting to
> > talk to him.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b5f899a$0$12454$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> apparently hse needs more time.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > Renowned singer Sara Forman of the world's only Sanskrit rock band,
> >> > marries in Nevada
> >> >
> >> > September 29, 2009
> >> >
> >> > Sara Anjuli Forman, singer of the only Sanskrit rock band of the
> >> > world Shanti Shanti, married John Patrick Gracey in a traditional
> >> > Catholic ceremony in Reno (Nevada, USA) on September 26 evening.
> >> >
> >> > Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed also blessed the couple after the
> >> > Catholic ceremony held at Bishop Manogue Chapel.
> >> >
> >> > Shanti Shanti released their sixth album titled "Veda" on the oldest
> >> > scripture of the world Vedas. This groundbreaking work, which took
> >> > one year to complete involving extensive research, contains shlokas
> >> > (hymns) from all four Vedas -- Rg-ved, Saam-ved, Atharv-ved, and
> >> > Yajur-ved; some as old as 1,500 BCE.
> >> >
> >> > Sara has never been to India, never had a Sanskrit teacher, and still
> >> > she can spontaneously chant, read, write, and translate Sanskrit. She
> >> > has toured various countries and various states of USA with her
> >> > Shanti Shanti band giving packed Sanskrit musical performances. She
> >> > has been in various television shows, mentioned in various
> >> > publications, and extensively written about.
> >> >
> >> > - Sampurn Media
> >> >
> >> > Visit:
> >> > http://www.shantishanti.com/
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/renowned-singer-sara-forman
> >> -of-the-worlds-only-sanskrit-rock-band-marries-in-nevada_100253543.html
> >> >
> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >> > educational
> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> >> > not
> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of
> >> > the
> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption
> >> > for
> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> >> > current
> >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others
> >> > are
> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> >> > article.
> >> >
> >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use
> >> > of
> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright
> >> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the
> >> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
> >> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is
> >> > believed
> >> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
> >> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with
> >> > Title
> >> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
> >> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the
> >> > included
> >> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes
> >> > by
> >> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
> >> > information
> >> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
> >> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes
> >> > of
> >> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
> >> > copyright owner.
> >> >
> >> > Since newsgroup posts are being removed
> >> > by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
> >> > this post may be reposted several times.
> >>
> >>
>
>

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TOPIC: "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the
world *** Jai Maharaj posts
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/da8fa1a7ad09f029?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 3:49 pm
From: Yusuf B Gursey

On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> [Posted in: rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.language.hindi,sci.lang,
> misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-films ]

the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
is pronounced "correctly". but out of curiousity, how would it be
pronounced in sanskrit?

== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 4:30 pm
From: "benlizro@ihug.co.nz"

On Jan 28, 12:49 pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> > Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > [Posted in: rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.language.hindi,sci.lang,
> > misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-films ]
>
> the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> is pronounced "correctly". but out of curiousity, how would it be
> pronounced in sanskrit?

I'm sure all parties to the discussion will be delighted to hear that
the first recorded use of the word in English (OED) is from the pen of
none other than Sir William Jones (1784). Interestingly he placed an
acute accent on the last syllable, which suggests that he would have
stressed it there. It seems to have been semantically nativized quite
quickly, with various English writers (beginning with Walter Scott in
1815) using it in senses which have nothing specifically to do with
Hinduism. The film probably picked it up through its use in the
computer world during the last couple of decades. Modern
pronunciation, in my experience, favours a more typically English
pattern of initial stress, though I note that both OED and Jones (17th
ed) offer the final-stress version first. Maybe this is more common in
the UK.

Incidentally, I think the OP, in his excitement over the film, may
have underestimated the number of Hindi and Sanskrit words that are
already in English -- some of them quite well known.

Ross Clark

== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 4:34 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <97a388da-c6d7-4d04-a6fe-cce400ea6c19@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Yusuf B Gursey <ybg@theworld.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
>> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly. - Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi

> the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> is pronounced "correctly".

If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English words
have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English words being
mispronounced then that you would be okay with that usage?

> but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?

uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far).
It is *not* aavataar.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 5:10 pm
From: hari.kumar@indero.com

> the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> is pronounced "correctly".

"If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English
words have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English
words being mispronounced then that you would be okay with that usage?"

Oh come now our dear jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc., you know full well
the answer to this from your own experience as a native english speaker.

Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is not an indian, he is and american and a
life longe citizen and resident of that country.

He knows no other language of india but english. He refuses a call from
a real indian least his lie be instantly known.

His "dr." and indian sounding name are self given to attract real
indians to his astrology business.

> but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?

"uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far). It is *not* aavataar."

Sanskrit like some other languages is highly phonetic as can be spoken
from dictionaries without knowing the meaning of what one is saying.

We wait still for jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. to accept a call from a
real indian. We will know instantly his claim about speaking sanskrit
in his family in a domestic context.

Don't hold your breath.

== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 5:34 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee

On Jan 28, 12:10 pm, hari.ku...@indero.com wrote:
> > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > is pronounced "correctly".
>
> "If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English
> words have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English
> words being mispronounced then that you would be okay with that usage?"
>
> Oh come now our dear jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc., you know full well
> the answer to this from your own experience as a native english speaker.
>
> Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is not an indian, he is and american and a
> life longe citizen and resident of that country.
>
> He knows no other language of india but english. He refuses a call from
> a real indian least his lie be instantly known.
>
> His "dr." and indian sounding name are self given to attract real
> indians to his astrology business.
>
> > but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?
>
> "uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far). It is *not* aavataar."
>
> Sanskrit like some other languages is highly phonetic as can be spoken
> from dictionaries without knowing the meaning of what one is saying.
>
> We wait still for jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. to accept a call from a
> real indian. We will know instantly his claim about speaking sanskrit
> in his family in a domestic context.
>
> Don't hold your breath.

I dare say that this fake Doc is rich enough to bribe some native
speaker to impersonate him for that purpose. But who would stoop that
low? Only harmony of course, but his control of language we know.
Wouldn't work!

== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 6:57 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

[IIT-D had an attendance requirement when Arindam attended it.
Perhaps it still does. He has confessed to violating it. He
obtained his degree fraudulently. A disciplinary committee, headed
by the director, used to meet regularly -- I was on its panel and
would have recommended action against Arindam, but I was there before
his time. By his own admission even his wife was surprised by it.
- Jai Maharaj]

Arindam Banerjee, a fraud and the Shame of IIT

Forwarded message:
[
[ From: Richard Herring (junk@[127.0.0.1])
[ Subject: Re: Really Cold Fusion
[ Newsgroups: sci.physics
[ Date: 2005-05-13 02:02:37 PST
[
[
[ In message <1115941772.198114.64...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
[ Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> writes
[ >
[ > If the second law of thermodynamics is true,
[ > that is, things cooled with passing of time,
[
[ "That is" is not. You would need to find out what the second law really
[ says before you are in any position to disprove it.
[
[ --
[ Richard Herring
[
End of forwarded message

Arindam Banerjee is a fraud, obviously.

> Arindam Banerjee "a blowhard fraud"
>
> -From: Arjun Ray <a...@nmds.com.invalid>
> -Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,soc.culture.bengali,soc.culture.indian
> -Subject: Re: The Widowmaker, Re: Grisly
> -Date: 9 Jan 2003 01:16:15 -0600
>
> In <890e65ea.0301082253.1adae...@posting.google.com>,
> adda1...@bigpond.com (Arindam Banerjee) wrote:
> |
> | Arjun Ray <a...@nmds.com.invalid> wrote in message
> | news:<o89p1vchi9u07t5ijv85oe288bd6476bv5@4ax.com>...
> |> In <890e65ea.0301081419.551c1...@posting.google.com>,
> |> adda1...@bigpond.com (Arindam Banerjee) wrote:
> |>| Arjun Ray <a...@nmds.com.invalid> wrote in message
> |>| news:<c27n1v0rq69brnjttt2b7550r9j9fshj5b@4ax.com>...
>
> |>|> Care to give a sample from these first 100 odd?
> |>|
> |>| As a general rule I do not care to repost my work on Internet.
>
> It's pretty clear that there is no such "work".
>
> |>| If you are really interested, [...]
>
> About the only thing interesting now is exactly how much
> of a blowhard fraud you are.
> [...]
> End of forwarded message
>
>
>> HOW ARINDAM BANERJEE DECEIVED THE IIT
>>
>> There's an attendance rule at the IITs, which
>> Arindam Banerjee obviously violated by his own
>> confession below. He likely also had his friends
>> act as a proxy for him during roll calls, sit for
>> him in exams and cheat the IIT in other ways:
>>
>> ". . . I tried to attend as few classes as I could;
>> mainly it was a matter of making friends with the really
>> great guys who let me photocopy their lecture notes, and
>> tell me which assessment was due when. Still, I had to
>> miss quite a few exams, when I had too much work
>> pressure, and that reflected upon my grades. Now I
>> wonder, how did I manage to do it all! My wife never
>> understood how I managed to pass and get my degree, for
>> she hardly ever saw me studying. But all's well that
>> ends well . . ."
>> - "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com>
>> on June 6, 2005 about his IIT degree.
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>>
>>> Exposed - Arindam Banerjee's tactics of abuse
>>>
>>> Forwarded message
>>>
>>> [ Subject: Re: Fw: Astrology is a Science
>>> [ From: chriskrolc...@hotmail.com (Chris Krolczyk)
>>> [ Newsgroups: alt.astrology . . .
>>> [ Message-ID: <c743abb.0308251714.3afca...@posting.google.com>
>>> [ NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.99.13.253
>>> [ Date: 25 Aug 2003 18:14:14 -0700
>>>
>>> adda1...@bigpond.com (Arindam Banerjee)
>>> wrote in message
> <news:890e65ea.0308251356.359a21e9@posting.google.com>...
>>>> chriskrolc...@hotmail.com (Chris Krolczyk) wrote in
>>>> message <news:c743abb.0308250629.4a293d89@posting.google.com>...
>>>>
>>>> Just my point, you worthless lot's capable only of giving abuse (and
>>>> that too, of a remarkably unoriginal quality) not reasoned argument.
>>>
>>> Oh, please. Pot, Kettle, Black. As in:
>>>
>>> <news:890e65ea.0201311313.71a6cc2b@posting.google.com>
>>>>
>>>>True. Use your head, read my book, and then try to sort it out. I
> believe
>>
>>>>that my main problem is that I am a brown Hindu, and that the modern
>>>>scientific establishment is composed of Eurocentric racists. Which is
> why,
>>
>>>>they are not even deigning to acknowledge the existence of my work.
>>>
>>> followed up by
>>>
>>> <news:890e65ea.0201311314.63a9c62@posting.google.com>
>>>>
>>>>My, what mumbo-jumbo! Makes less sense than any witch-doctor in
>>>>darkest Africa.
>>>
>>> or howzabout
>>>
>>> <890e65ea.0204112309.120ff...@posting.google.com>
>>>>
>>>>Why should I not? A Jew almost made it to Vice President, and they
>>>>run all the key positions in govt., finance, academic, media,
>>>>entertainment, publishing, etc., or allow their wannabes to do so. If
>>>>you run foul of a Jew in USA, you are labelled a Nazi, and you have no
>>>>chance at all for recognition or promotion, for then you become
>>>>morally responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews in WW2. This, by
>>>>the way, has just happened to me in an interchange in the newsgroup
>>>>rec.art.books. Some Jew named Zeleny called me a wog Nazi because he
>>>>did not appreciate some of my views relating to US foreign policies.
>>>>I was also described as a Nazi earlier when I said that Einstein could
>>>>be wrong so far as his theory of relativity was concerned.
>>>
>>> Nice change in tactics, Ari. First you accuse others of
>>> racism in a discussion in which you brought up the subject
>>> yourself. Then you post something quite racist yourself.
>>> Then, in an unrelated post, you post something incredibly
>>> antisemitic largely because you were feeling sorry for
>>> yourself and were honked off because they didn't like
>>> your "scientific theory" contradicting Einstein.
>>>
>>> And somehow you see fit to lecture others on
>>> "reasoned argument"? Don't make me laugh.
>>>
>>>> And as I said, you are a proven gutless scumbag,
>>>
>>> In your eyes, Ari. That's not much of a
>>> recommendation now, is it?
>>>
>>>> incapable of decency,
>>>
>>> "Decency"? Heh.
>>>
>>> -From <news:890e65ea.0204142212.57b736e9@posting.google.com>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your interest in me, and I appreciate being the object of
>>>>so much attention, though I wish a lot of money came from it. I am
>>>>most kindly disposed towards Jews - despite their negative attitude
>>>>towards me, but that is understandable, for if my theories are right,
>>>>their beloved Einstein will be shown wrong - and so I have suggested
>>>>that they all leave the Middle East and get for themselves a Zionist
>>>>state in Florida, where they should be much loved and respected by the
>>>>USAns who worship their one true god.
>>>
>>> Some "decency" there, huh?
>>>
>>> Matt Giwer would be proud.
>>>
>>>> content to make snide attacks from the safety of other newsgroups.
>>>
>>> Like you did to Michael Zeleny on soc.culture.india in the third
>>> post I referenced, eh?
>>>
>>> Physician, heal thyself.
>>>
>>>> Abuse is, thus, what you deserve.
>>>
>>> Self-abuse is, as proven, what you post.
>>>
>>> (Remainder of Ari's wankery deleted - why is it that kooks
>>> always gravitate to Einstein's dead ass like flies when
>>> everything else they rant about runs dry?)
>>>
>>> -Chris Krolczyk
>>>
>>> End of forwarded message
>>>
>>>
>>>> Forwarded message
>>>> [
>>>> [ Subject: What is this Junk?
>>>> [
>>>> [ Is this what they teach at IIT-Kharagpur? Not only is our
>>>> [ crazy scientist violating the First Law of Motion, he is
>>>> [ also casting doubt on the validity of the Law of
>>>> [ Conservation of Energy.
>>>> [
>>>> [ Perpetual Motion Machines? Our esteemed IIT guy has been
>>>> [ reading HG Wells and all kinds of science fiction books.
>>>> [ No friction? Has he never heard of the concept of matter?
>>>> [ That matter is composed of molecules.......
>>>> [
>>>> [ I bet that none of this is, or can be experimentally
>>>> [ proven!
>>>> [
>>>> [ It is certainly commendable to follow the far reaches of
>>>> [ one's imagination, but to confuse imagination with
>>>> [ reality? One can of course argue that reality is
>>>> [ imagination and imagination is reality. But I would
>>>> [ rather not get into a philosophical discussion.
>>>> [
>>>> [ Posted by Ramani on 04-JUN-03
>>>> [
>>>> End of forwarded message from: http://www.rediff.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Forwarded message
>>>>> [
>>>>> [ Subject: Perpetuum mobile
>>>>> [
>>>>> [ Another attempt to foil Conservation-of-energy
>>>>> [ principle ... this time by a Indian [Arindam Banerjee]
>>>>> [ and that too somebody from IIT. We should better check
>>>>> [ whether this guy really hails from IIT, bringing a bad
>>>>> [ name for India and IIT both.
>>>>> [
>>>>> [ Rediff should also check authenticity of these pseudo
>>>>> [ scientific results before publishing .. this is playing
>>>>> [ into the hands of cheap publicity gimmickers. I would
>>>>> [ advise rediff to refrain from these things ...
>>>>> [
>>>>> [ BTW, I would advise the readers to read the book
>>>>> [ "Voodoo Science" by Robert Park. Plz check details on
>>>>> [ Amazon.
>>>>> [
>>>>> [ Posted by niraj on 04-JUN-03
>>>>> [
>>>>> End of forwarded message from: http://www.rediff.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How 'Shame of IIT' Arindam Banerjee tries to deceive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Newton's Second Law states that the change
>>>>>> in velocity (acceleration) with which an object
>>>>>> moves is directly proportional to the magnitude
>>>>>> of the force applied to the object and inversely
>>>>>> proportional to the mass of the object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But "Shame of IIT" Arindam Banerjee tries to deceive
>>>>>> others by posting the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Copy begins
>>>>>> [
>>>>>> [ From: Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com>
>>>>>> [ Subject: Re: E=MCsquared is wrong
>>>>>> [ Newsgroups: alt.philosophy
>>>>>> [ Message-ID: <890e65ea.0301281239.5a872...@posting.google.com>
>>>>>> [ Date: 28 Jan 2003
>>>>>> [
>>>>>> [ . . . Newton's second law of motion says
>>>>>> [ that the rate of change of momentum of a body
>>>>>> [ is quantitatively equal to the external force
>>>>>> [ applied upon it.
>>>>>> [
>>>>>> Copy ends
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, "Shame of IIT" Arindam Banerjee tries to
>>>>>> deceive others by stating that "quantitatively equal" is
>>>>>> the same as "inversely proportional".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But wait, there's another possibility, even the
>>>>>> likelihood, that Banerjee does not understand physics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jai Maharaj. Jyotishi
>>>>>> Om Shanti

== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 7:07 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Westerners are pronouncing it as aavataar, but the correct
pronunciation is uvutaar (u as the u in "but", aa as the a in "star").

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

I wrote:
>
> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> [Posted in:
> rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.language.hindi,sci.lang,
> misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-films ]

== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 7:17 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <89adb3f0-962b-40b1-9d91-8590bc9a66c5@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
"benlizro@ihug.co.nz" <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> posted:

> On Jan 28, 12:49=A0pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:

> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi
> > > word in the worl d.
> > > Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > [Posted in: rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.langua=
> ge.hindi,sci.lan=ADg,
> > > misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-fil=
> ms ]

> > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > is pronounced "correctly". but out of curiousity, how would it be
> > pronounced in sanskrit?

> I'm sure all parties to the discussion will be delighted to hear that
> the first recorded use of the word in English (OED) is from the pen of
> none other than Sir William Jones (1784). Interestingly he placed an
> acute accent on the last syllable, which suggests that he would have
> stressed it there. It seems to have been semantically nativized quite
> quickly, with various English writers (beginning with Walter Scott in
> 1815) using it in senses which have nothing specifically to do with
> Hinduism. The film probably picked it up through its use in the
> computer world during the last couple of decades. Modern
> pronunciation, in my experience, favours a more typically English
> pattern of initial stress, though I note that both OED and Jones (17th
> ed) offer the final-stress version first. Maybe this is more common in
> the UK.
>
> Incidentally, I think the OP, in his excitement over the film, may
> have underestimated the number of Hindi and Sanskrit words that are
> already in English -- some of them quite well known.
>
> Ross Clark

Of course, a number of Hindu and Sanskrit words already exist in
English, but as the "Subject:" header states, "avatar" may soon
become the best known among them. What is it currently -- "yog"
(mispronounced as "yogaa")?

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 7:30 pm
From: Invid Fan

In article <20100127VKL1k2rJjAQfW1WT0N7sZNt@CraPl>, Dr. Jai Maharaj
<usenet@mantra.com> wrote:

> In article
> <97a388da-c6d7-4d04-a6fe-cce400ea6c19@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Yusuf B Gursey <ybg@theworld.com> posted:
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> >> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> >> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly. - Jai Maharaj,
> >> Jyotishi
>
> > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > is pronounced "correctly".
>
> If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English words
> have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English words being
> mispronounced then that you would be okay with that usage?
>
Naturally. The Japanese use a number of English words, and often they
sound nothing like what they should. The whole point of adopting a
foreign word it to take it and make it your own. Do you also want us to
start pronouncing French words properly too?

> > but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?
>
> uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far).
> It is *not* aavataar.
>
Between a hit US cartoon and this movie, you've lost that battle
(although maybe you still have time to influence the live action
adaptation of Avatar the Last Airbender)

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 7:46 pm
From: "benlizro@ihug.co.nz"

On Jan 28, 1:34 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <97a388da-c6d7-4d04-a6fe-cce400ea6...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> posted:
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> >> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> >> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly. - Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > is pronounced "correctly".
>
> If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English words
> have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English words being
> mispronounced then that you would be okay with that usage?

Of course. Would you expect me to run around lecturing them on
"correct" pronunciation? How stupid would that be? If they are
speaking Czech, or Bengali, or Samoan, they are free to do what they
like with words copied from English. Pronounce them as they see fit,
use them to mean whatever they like. This is just what languages do,
and fortunately there is no international authority to waste time and
money trying to stop it.

Ross Clark

>
> > but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?
>
> uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far).
> It is *not* aavataar.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 8:00 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <270120102230473405%invid@loclanet.com>,
Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> > In article
> > <97a388da-c6d7-4d04-a6fe-cce400ea6c19@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > Yusuf B Gursey <ybg@theworld.com> posted:

> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > >
> > >> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> > >> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly. - Jai Maharaj,
> > >> Jyotishi

> > > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > > is pronounced "correctly".

> > If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English words
> > have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English words being
> > mispronounced then you would be okay with that usage? - Jai Maharaj

> Naturally. The Japanese use a number of English words, and often they
> sound nothing like what they should. The whole point of adopting a
> foreign word it to take it and make it your own. Do you also want us to
> start pronouncing French words properly too?

But people laught at them a lot when they say "gorf", "goff" or "gurufu"
instead of "golf"!

> > > but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?

> > uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far).
> > It is *not* aavataar. - Jai Maharaj

> Between a hit US cartoon and this movie, you've lost that battle
> (although maybe you still have time to influence the live action
> adaptation of Avatar the Last Airbender)

No battle here, just posting information. And when we native Sanskrit-Hindi
speakers hear "aavataar", we laugh too. I am sure that Iranians and Iraqis
laugh at "eyeran" and "eyerack".

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 8:09 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <48644b6f-62a8-4fc5-b608-2734a09e20c6@a17g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
"benlizro@ihug.co.nz" <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> > In article <97a388da-c6d7-4d04-a6fe-cce400ea6...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups=
> > ..com>, =A0Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> posted:

> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > >> "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> > >> Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly. - Jai Maharaj,
> > >> Jyotishi

> > > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > > is pronounced "correctly".

> > If you were/are a native speaker of English, and if certain English words
> > have "entered" another language, and if you encounter English words being
> > mispronounced then you would be okay with that usage?

> Of course. Would you expect me to run around lecturing them on
> "correct" pronunciation? How stupid would that be? . . .

Are you a proxy for Yusuf B Gursey? In any case, if you wanted
to correct them, then you'd be free to do so. You haven't let
looking stupid stop you from being stupid in the past, have you?

> If they are
> speaking Czech, or Bengali, or Samoan, they are free to do what they
> like with words copied from English. Pronounce them as they see fit,
> use them to mean whatever they like. This is just what languages do,
> and fortunately there is no international authority to waste time and
> money trying to stop it. Ross Clark

This isn't about authority. This is about becoming target of
ridicule because of the way one speaks in a language, or worse, being
the victim of language- or pronunciation-based prejudice. Such
prejudice is rampant in the world, especially in the West.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

> > > but out of curiousity, how would it be pronounced in sanskrit?
> >
> > uvutaar (u as the u in but, aa as the a in far).
> > It is *not* aavataar.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>

== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 8:36 pm
From: "benlizro@ihug.co.nz"

On Jan 28, 4:17 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <89adb3f0-962b-40b1-9d91-8590bc9a6...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> "benli...@ihug.co.nz" <benli...@ihug.co.nz> posted:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 12:49=A0pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > > "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi
> > > > word in the worl d.
> > > > Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
>
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
>
> > > > [Posted in: rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.langua=
> > ge.hindi,sci.lan=ADg,
> > > > misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-fil=
> > ms ]
> > > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > > is pronounced "correctly". but out of curiousity, how would it be
> > > pronounced in sanskrit?
> > I'm sure all parties to the discussion will be delighted to hear that
> > the first recorded use of the word in English (OED) is from the pen of
> > none other than Sir William Jones (1784). Interestingly he placed an
> > acute accent on the last syllable, which suggests that he would have
> > stressed it there. It seems to have been semantically nativized quite
> > quickly, with various English writers (beginning with Walter Scott in
> > 1815) using it in senses which have nothing specifically to do with
> > Hinduism. The film probably picked it up through its use in the
> > computer world during the last couple of decades. Modern
> > pronunciation, in my experience, favours a more typically English
> > pattern of initial stress, though I note that both OED and Jones (17th
> > ed) offer the final-stress version first. Maybe this is more common in
> > the UK.
>
> > Incidentally, I think the OP, in his excitement over the film, may
> > have underestimated the number of Hindi and Sanskrit words that are
> > already in English -- some of them quite well known.
>
> > Ross Clark
>
> Of course, a number of Hindu and Sanskrit words already exist in
> English, but as the "Subject:" header states, "avatar" may soon
> become the best known among them. What is it currently -- "yog"
> (mispronounced as "yogaa")?
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

Yes, yoga is pretty well known along with a number of other words
relating to Indian religion: swami, mantra, mandala, nirvana, om...
But there are quite a few whose Indian origin is not generally known,
like mandarin, pundit, chintz, cowry, dinghy, dungaree, juggernaut,
jungle, loot, myna, shampoo, thug -- some of which are quite common.
Guru and ganja are relatively recent arrivals which may still have
Indian associations for some people, but not all. Based on the word-
frequency sites I looked at, "jungle" would probably be the overall
winner. I suppose "avatar" will experience a jump in popularity on
account of the movie, but I doubt it will overtake "jungle".

Ross Clark

== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 9:17 pm
From: "Peter T. Daniels"

On Jan 27, 7:30 pm, "benli...@ihug.co.nz" <benli...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 12:49 pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> > > Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
>
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
>
> > > [Posted in: rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.language.hindi,sci.lang,
> > > misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-films ]
>
> > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > is pronounced "correctly". but out of curiousity, how would it be
> > pronounced in sanskrit?
>
> I'm sure all parties to the discussion will be delighted to hear that
> the first recorded use of the word in English (OED) is from the pen of
> none other than Sir William Jones (1784). Interestingly he placed an
> acute accent on the last syllable, which suggests that he would have
> stressed it there.

Acute accent marked vowel length rather than stress.

> It seems to have been semantically nativized quite
> quickly, with various English writers (beginning with Walter Scott in
> 1815) using it in senses which have nothing specifically to do with
> Hinduism. The film probably picked it up through its use in the
> computer world during the last couple of decades. Modern
> pronunciation, in my experience, favours a more typically English
> pattern of initial stress, though I note that both OED and Jones (17th
> ed) offer the final-stress version first. Maybe this is more common in
> the UK.
>
> Incidentally, I think the OP, in his excitement over the film, may
> have underestimated the number of Hindi and Sanskrit words that are
> already in English -- some of them quite well known.

== 15 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 9:48 pm
From: "benlizro@ihug.co.nz"

On Jan 28, 6:17 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 7:30 pm, "benli...@ihug.co.nz" <benli...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 12:49 pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> > > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > > > "AVATAR" may soon become the best known Sanskrit-Hindi word in the world.
> > > > Of course, westerners are pronouncing it incorrectly.
>
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
>
> > > > [Posted in: rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.language.hindi,sci.lang,
> > > > misc.writing.screenplays,soc.culture.indian,rec.arts.movies.current-films ]
>
> > > the word has already entered into the english language, and as such it
> > > is pronounced "correctly". but out of curiousity, how would it be
> > > pronounced in sanskrit?
>
> > I'm sure all parties to the discussion will be delighted to hear that
> > the first recorded use of the word in English (OED) is from the pen of
> > none other than Sir William Jones (1784). Interestingly he placed an
> > acute accent on the last syllable, which suggests that he would have
> > stressed it there.
>
> Acute accent marked vowel length rather than stress.

Apparently. But it's a reasonable guess that his awareness of this as
the one long vowel in the word would have led him to place the stress
there. Or, if he attempted a pure Skt pronunciation, that it would
have been so heard by his English speaking hearers. Whereas modern
speakers, picking it up from an unaccented written form, just apply a
common English template (Palomar, Zanzibar, Bolivar).

Ross Clark

Ross Clark
>
> > It seems to have been semantically nativized quite
> > quickly, with various English writers (beginning with Walter Scott in
> > 1815) using it in senses which have nothing specifically to do with
> > Hinduism. The film probably picked it up through its use in the
> > computer world during the last couple of decades. Modern
> > pronunciation, in my experience, favours a more typically English
> > pattern of initial stress, though I note that both OED and Jones (17th
> > ed) offer the final-stress version first. Maybe this is more common in
> > the UK.
>
> > Incidentally, I think the OP, in his excitement over the film, may
> > have underestimated the number of Hindi and Sanskrit words that are
> > already in English -- some of them quite well known.
>
>

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 4:15 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee

Oi all ye bundurrs and bundrees, hutt. Up your tails, swing in joy, go
eat bananas.

As for tunes:

"jhoom barabar jhoom ray bundree jhoom barabar jhoom"

"kaisa bundurr hai yay bundurr jai bundurr maharaj"

"uchchhee bundree pyaree bundree rooTha-rooThee cchore day"

Jo naam sumjhayy woh bundurr (ya bundree) hai.

Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee

On Jan 28, 10:27 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> is besharm arindam ko na aataa hai gaanaa, na bajaanaa |
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b60ad8e$0$12456$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
>
>
>
> > ye soor kidhar jee, besoor bandarjee?
>
> > "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >news:156c13b8-5496-46e3-babb-c2b8b978e7c4@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 26, 6:29 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:5a1ba2be-b258-430b-975f-9bf0b1c2930e@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jan 23, 3:41 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:1da27dad-ba0c-4808-b76e-0042b73a730a@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Jan 21, 4:06 pm, TheKeral <KalluMallu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 1/20/2010 12:22 AM, Mirza Ghalib wrote:
>
> > > > > > All the above writing is fine, but what did he do to save
> > > > > > the Czechs from subjugation by Germany?
>
> > > > > That question is a bit unfair. Was Gandhi supposed to liberate all.
> > > > > His
> > > > > writings show a single purpose - to make Indians their own masters in
> > > > > India, nothing more, nothing less. Gandhi's "bizarre" [your word] idea
> > > > > was to achieve that aim through non-violent means. As with all people,
> > > > > he did get the news from around the world and did have definite
> > > > > opinions
> > > > > on the goings on. But, other than proffer a prescription or two, I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > believe he wanted to embark on "jihad" worldwide.
>
> > > > > > Also how many Chechs read this article in "The Harijan."
> > > > > > All I know there were underground operations by
> > > > > > these vanquished people throughout the war. In that
> > > > > > they did not use Ahinsak techniques as Gandhi wished.
>
> > > > > It does not matter whether or not the Czechs read the "Harijan," and I
> > > > > don't think Gandhi went off the deep end to "convince" Czechs to
> > > > > follow
> > > > > his views/philosophy.
>
> > > > > The whole point of my posting the correspondence is to put paid on the
> > > > > falsehood that he was some sort of closet Hitler admirer, or some sort
> > > > > of coward to advocate that Britain capitulate to the Nazis. What is
> > > > > pretty clear is that he distrusted (not hated) Hitler, Mussolini,
> > > > > Stalin, Churchill, _and_ Roosevelt [the first three particularly so].
>
> > > > > > I have no animosity towards Gandhi. None. But I think
> > > > > > his thinking was bizarre. You seem to differ. That
> > > > > > is the beauty of free minds in a free society.
>
> > > > > It is not all that boolean (as in "you are with us, or you are against
> > > > > us" :-) ). There are some qualities of Gandhi that are truly
> > > > > admirable,
> > > > > and some just plain silly/childish. He lived his life openly and
> > > > > honestly, which no one can emulate these days, IMO.
>
> > > > The last bit is rubbish - there are very many people who live their
> > > > lives not only openly and honestly, but also decently, without
> > > > megalomania and hypocrisy.
>
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
>
> > > > lol. jyoti basu comes to mind readily.
> > > > yes, of course he lived openly and honestly.
> > > > basu was openly and honestly a commie violent crook.
> > > > commies are violent by definition -as are the other two m.
> > > > ha hhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Stupid bundree, did I every praise Jyoti Basu? The only good thing I
> > > can thnk about him was that he graduated from Presidency College with
> > > English as his major subject.
>
> > > I was talking about my family, my friends and relatives, my bosses, my
> > > neighbours - each and every one of them is far more moral, decent and
> > > productive than your disastrous and most incredibly indecent great-
> > > unca gandi - traitor to Hindus.
>
> > > Cheers, bundree. Up your tail, swing in joy, go eat a banana.
>
> > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee
> > > ------------
>
> > > bengal mein bandarjee nacha, kisine na dekha.
> > > tum to keral ki peke nache, hai re kisne na dekha
>
> > Bad effort, bundree. See below for something far better (though I am
> > hardly proud of it, needless to add)
>
> > - Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Pesh hai:
>
> > uchcchee bundree pyaree bundree rooTha-rooThee chhore day
> > jhat-pat chh-laang lugakar tu phat-a-phat foot lay
> > doom ooThkar kayla khakar tu jungle-o may jhoom
> > jhoom barabar jhoom ray bundurr yay raha humaara hukoom- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 4:35 pm
From: "Deepak"

"usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
message news:20100127LcD26rF1z2cw18Nb316bLKI@I07Va...
> The science of Jyotish will become popular in Shri Lanka again, too.
> Just as the reunification of Bharat and Pakistan on most levels was
> completed a few years ago, the reunification of Bharat and Shri Lanka
> is also to take place in the future. And the catalyst force in both
> cases is the United States -- often hidden from the general view.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b6091be$0$12421$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> isn't that a beautiful song?
>> now that rajapaksha is the pm, after tranquilizing the kirastani tigers,
>> he
>> will reactivate sri-lanka-india relationship with a new radio program
>> like
>> the geetmala that both countries can enjoy.
>> rajapaksha's hero is narendra modi, and he wants to regulate daroo
>> industry
>> and help lankans live with dignity. some say he will play india's vande
>> mataram as well.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > "...namo, namo, mata" still rings in my ears from the days when every
>> > shortvave radio in the neighborhood would be tuned to Radio Ceylon
>> > for Ameen Sayani's Binaca Geet Mala.
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>> > In article
>> > <d9bdd867-1b42-44e5-af16-80688fa87fb8@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>> > nuanho nuanho <nuanho@gmail.com> posted:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
>> >>
>> >> Sri Lanka Maataa (Mother Sri Lanka)
>> >>
>> >> Mother Lanka we salute Thee!
>> >> Plenteous in prosperity, Thou,
>> >> Beauteous in grace and love,
>> >> Laden with grain and luscious fruit,
>> >> And fragrant flowers of radiant hue,
>> >> Giver of life and all good things,
>> >> Our land of joy and victory,
>> >> Receive our gratefull praise sublime,
>> >> Mother Lanka! we salute Thee!
>> >>
>> >> Thou gavest us knowledge and truth,
>> >> Thou art our strength and inward faith,
>> >> Our light divine and sentient being,
>> >> Breath of life and liberation.
>> >> Grant us, bondage free, inspiration.
>> >> Inspire us for ever.
>> >> In wisdom and strength renewed,
>> >> Ill-will, hatred, strife all ended
>> >> In love enfolded, a mighty nation
>> >> Marching onward, all as one,
>> >> Lead us, Mother, to fullest freedom.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
>>
>>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 5:08 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <hjqm91$qps$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>,
"Deepak S. Sabnis" <deepak.sabnis@hp.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> In article <560165e3-664e-403c-985e-f7400ac31319@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Partha Choudhury <putkepotash@gmail.com> posted:

> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > The science of Jyotish will become popular in Shri Lanka again, too.
> > Just as the reunification of Bharat and Pakistan on most levels was
> > completed a few years ago, the reunification of Bharat and Shri Lanka
> > is also to take place in the future. And the catalyst force in both
> > cases is the United States -- often hidden from the general view.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b6091be$0$12421$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> > >
> > > isn't that a beautiful song?
> > > now that rajapaksha is the pm, after tranquilizing the kirastani tigers, he
> > > will reactivate sri-lanka-india relationship with a new radio program like
> > > the geetmala that both countries can enjoy.
> > > rajapaksha's hero is narendra modi, and he wants to regulate daroo industry
> > > and help lankans live with dignity. some say he will play india's vande
> > > mataram as well.
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > >
> > > > "...namo, namo, mata" still rings in my ears from the days when every
> > > > shortvave radio in the neighborhood would be tuned to Radio Ceylon
> > > > for Ameen Sayani's Binaca Geet Mala.
> > > >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> > > >
> > > > In article
> > > > <d9bdd867-1b42-44e5-af16-80688fa87fb8@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > nuanho nuanho <nuanho@gmail.com> posted:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
> > > >>
> > > >> Sri Lanka Maataa (Mother Sri Lanka)
> > > >>
> > > >> Mother Lanka we salute Thee!
> > > >> Plenteous in prosperity, Thou,
> > > >> Beauteous in grace and love,
> > > >> Laden with grain and luscious fruit,
> > > >> And fragrant flowers of radiant hue,
> > > >> Giver of life and all good things,
> > > >> Our land of joy and victory,
> > > >> Receive our gratefull praise sublime,
> > > >> Mother Lanka! we salute Thee!
> > > >>
> > > >> Thou gavest us knowledge and truth,
> > > >> Thou art our strength and inward faith,
> > > >> Our light divine and sentient being,
> > > >> Breath of life and liberation.
> > > >> Grant us, bondage free, inspiration.
> > > >> Inspire us for ever.
> > > >> In wisdom and strength renewed,
> > > >> Ill-will, hatred, strife all ended
> > > >> In love enfolded, a mighty nation
> > > >> Marching onward, all as one,
> > > >> Lead us, Mother, to fullest freedom.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
>
> > Irrelevant to this forum.
>
> I say that it is relevant.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

There, the "Subject:" header has been changed to: "Re: Shri Lankan National Anthem".
Let me know if you'd like it changed again.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: A YATRA TO PROMOTE THE MOTHER TONGUE *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 5:39 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

A yatra to promote mother tongue

By Rathin Das
The Pioneer
hursday, January 28, 2010

Ahmedabad - Yet another yatra would wind its way through Gujarat next
week. But this would be a yatra with a difference as it will stress
on the need to learn and use one's mother tongue.

The Matri Vasha Vandana Yatra, which would start from the Saurashtra
town of Junagadh on January 30, is the brain-child of eminent author
and columnist Gunwant Shah. This is probably the first time that a
linguistic region is taking out a yatra to safeguard its mother
tongue.

Unlike various other yatras, usually sponsored by the State
Government, this one is purely a private affair, though the State
Sahitya Parishad would contribute its share by a way of supplying
books.

Gunwant Shah, a former professor at Michigan and Arizona universities
who took pre-mature retirement to devote his time to writing and
reading, was recently offended by the treatment given to a student
for speaking in his mother tongue, Telugu.

A student of an English medium school in Andhra Pradesh was punished
and made to display a board proclaiming "I will never again speak in
Telugu," Shah narrated what he watched on a television channel about
two months back.

"It is a colonial legacy that students cannot speak in their mother
tongue. It disturbed me a lot", Shah told The Pioneer from Vadodara
on how he was inspired to undertake this Matri Vasha Vandana Yatra.

He contacted his friends and admirers all over Gujarat and decided to
take out this yatra to stress on the importance of mother tongue.
Junagadh was chosen as the starting point as it is the birth-place of
Narsinh Mehta, the 16th century saint-poet of the 'Bhakti-Yug'.

The yatra, comprising about half-a-dozen vehicles including Shah's
own, would pass through the towns wherein the literary personalities
will hold public meetings and distribute relevant literature to
create awareness about the importance of mother tongue.

"This yatra is not a provincial jingoism," Shah explained and added
that they are not asking anyone to give up teaching of English and
computers. Gujarati people are not against any other language but
mother tongue should get prominence, Shah added, making it clear that
the yatra is not against any other linguistic group.

Gunwant Shah has a solution for the language issue: Gujarati medium
schools should have best facilities for English teaching while
English medium schools too should teach Gujarati with equal zeal.

The proposed yatra is receiving a good response, though Shah is
refusing to accept any cash donations. A fan of Shah's writings,
Ilyas Khan Pathan of Rajkot has put up hoardings and will place
advertisements in local papers, at his own cost, to announce the
event for the cause of mother tongue.

"Accept other languages, but do not abandon your mother tongue",
Ilyas Khan told The Pioneer from Rajkot.

Starting from Junagadh, the Matri Vasha Vandana Yatra would go
through Gondal, Rajkot, Surendranagar, Ahmedabad, Gandhinagar,
Palanpur, Mehsana, Nadiad, Vadodara, Bharuch, Bardoli, Valsad and
Navsari before finishing at Surat on February 6.

During the halt at historic Bardoli, nearly 3,000 college teachers
and principals will join deliberations on the importance of mother
tongue in education.

The Gujarat Sahitya Parishad would also sell and display the 100 best
books in Gujarati, selected by a panel of three literary figures.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/232024/A-yatra-to-promote-mother-tongue.html

More at:
http://www.dailypioneer.com

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 9:57 pm
From: "harmony"

o' brown catholic folks, you have duped. quit catholicsm, and return to
your ancestro's pagan traditions.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/27/pope.flagellate/index.html?hpt=T2

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 11:42 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

That's what the albino monk-thug did in The Da Vinci Code.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b612757$0$12465$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> o' brown catholic folks, you have duped. quit catholicsm, and return to
> your ancestro's pagan traditions.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/27/pope.flagellate/index.html?hpt=T2
>
>
>

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TOPIC: sociopath Jai Maharaj (again)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 10:03 pm
From: Franz Gnaedinger

He goes on suffocating sci.lang

> > That false doctor who calls himself Jai Maharaj is again
> > trying to suffocate sci.lang. Is it a coincidence that he began
> > his new campaign of massive abusement of our scientific group
> > around New Year, in sight of 2012 ? year of the alleged end of
> > the Mayan calendar, in reality a false claim based on a wrong
> > calculation, and even if the long calendar cycle of the Maya
> > ended in 2012 it would not mean the end of the world, just
> > a new calendar cycle. The year 2012 makes astrologers
> > creep out of their holes, they can frighten people again and
> > sell them their horoscopes. That false doctor Jai Maharaj
> > sells horoscopes and abuses our forum for making propaganda
> > for his astrological firm, pretending that he posts in favor of
> > the Hindu community, while in fact seeing his marekting niche
> > among those people he apparently believes are especially
> > prone to superstition, and therefroe the right and yielding
> > target of his astrological enterprise.
>
> On and on that false doctor of the false name goes
> abusing sci.lang, spammiing our scientific forum,
> often with messages on child abuse by Christian
> missionaries. This has nothing to do with linguistics,
> and reveals a cynic calculation. Who can say anything
> against a protest against child abuse? If you protest
> against his spamming you are revealed as someone
> who secretly supports child abuse, and so, he hopes,
> nobody will speak up against his abuse of sci.lang,
> instead, belonging to the accused western world,
> we are supposed to crumble away in shame and
> allow him to go on with his massive attack on our
> forum. But he didn't count with me. I raise my voice
> against every religious propaganda in here, also
> Christian one, I spoke against missioning all my life,
> quoting Matthew 7:16: "Ye shall recognize them
> by their fruits" - what counts are not words but what
> people do, how they live, what example they give.
> And most of all I write against child abuse and child
> pornography especially in the web, my reasoning
> based on my theory of the two pillars of the law.
> A couple of years ago I sent a paper of mine to the
> top chief of the Zurich police. A minor chief told me
> that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
> these fields, I don't crumble away before the implicit
> accusations of that false doctor of the false name
> and his cynic calculation that he can make money
> out of child abuse, pretending to care for the Hindu
> community while all he has in mind is to catch
> new customers for his astrological enteprise.

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TOPIC: An oldie by Lata Mangeshkar
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 12:03 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e27ea@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mghalib01@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na jaane
> kise dhoondhey"
>
> From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
>
> After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following address
>
> http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html

Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
know the language:

It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.

I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: Christians massacred millions of Hindus (Was: Re: Indian pogroms
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 12:10 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <8d6daaf6-4700-43b0-839f-c70c4c84e075@h12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> On Jan 27, 4:58=A0pm, netvegetable <notrealem...@all.com> wrote:
> > http://www.zenit.org/article-28177?l=3Denglish
> >
> > BHATKAL, India, JAN. 27, 2010 (Zenit.org).- Three Catholic churches have
> > been attacked in India, with media and Christian leaders attributing the
> > violence to Hindu extremists exacting "reprisals" for what is seen as
> > racial crime against Indian students in Australia.

> Christians killed and oppressed Hindus for 2000 years. Christianity is
> not a religion but is a cult based on the bastard son of Mary and Ben
> Panthera. Jeezuz also advocated killing those who did not follow him
> asking his followers to buy swords and slay them ( Luke 19-27, John
> 15-6). He also promised to kill them and roast them. His followers
> advised killing them- acts 3 -23. He was a crazy nut case. Churches
> are antinational places.
>
> Thanks for your time

Somewhere there are pretty good statistics about the millions of
Hindus massacred by Christians and Muslims. The number is a lot
larger than the number of Jews killed by the Nazis.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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