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TOPIC: AMAN KI ASHA OR SHARM EL-SHEIKH? WHO'S PROMPTING TOI? *** Jai Maharaj
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Date: Sun, Jan 10 2010 9:41 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Sunday, January 10, 2010

Aman ki asha or Sharm el-sheikh? Who's prompting TOI?

TOI-Jang bhai, bhai

B.Raman
Jan. 1, 2010

There is a Tamil saying: "chozhiyan kudumi summa aadathu."

Roughly paraphrased, it means: "If one finds a Brahmin's tuft moving
up and down, one should not presume it must be due to the breeze.
There could be a hidden reason for it. One should look deeper."

I was reminded of this saying on New Year's Day as I noticed that the
Times of India has started an Indians-Pakistanis bhai bhai ( Indians
and Pakistanis Are Brothers) campaign under the theme "Aman Ki Asha"
(The Desire For Peace) in association with the Jang group of
Pakistan.

The desire for peace one can understand.

The desire for closer people-to-people contacts one can equally
understand, but the sudden love of the Times of India for the Jang
group one cannot.

If the TOI had joined hands with the Dawn group of Karachi, that
would have made some sense. No other media group of Pakistan enjoys
as much respect among the people of Pakistan and in the international
community as the Dawn group does.

But, no other media group of Pakistan has been as much controversial
and as money-minded as the Jang group has been over the years.

And no other media group of Pakistan has been more opportunistic in
its editorial policies than the Jang group.

It is alleged in Pakistan: Look where the money is. One will find
Jang there.

The sudden love of the TOI for Pakistan and the Jang group is as
mysterious as the sudden love of L.K.Advani for Mohammad Ali Jinnah
some years ago and as the sudden admiration of Jaswant Singh for
Jinnah last year.

Nobody can question the ardent wish of the TOI leadership for peace
with Pakistan.

We all want peace with Pakistan.

We all like the people of Pakistan -- whether they are Punjabis,
Sindhis, Balochs, Seraikis or Pashtuns.

As I had pointed out in an article on India's relations with Pakistan
and China sometime ago, the civil societies of India and Pakistan
have greater positive vibrations for each other than the civil
societies of India and China.

And yet there has never been genuine peace between India and
Pakistan.

What is the reason?

Not Kashmir.

Not Balochistan.

Not the Lashksar-e-Toiba and the myriad terrorist organizations to
which the State and civil society of Pakistan have given birth.

Barring China, no other country in the world thinks and talks well of
Pakistan and its people.

No other country in the world triggers more negative vibrations in
the hearts and minds of people than Pakistan.

There are various reasons for it.

Because of the distorted interpretations of Islam in Pakistan ever
since it was born in 1947. One does not come across such distorted
interpretations anywhere else in the Ummah.

Because of the cruelty and barbarity which have come to be associated
with Islam in Pakistan. One does not come across such cruelty and
barbarity anywhere else in the Ummah.

Because of the perfidious nature of the Pakistani statecraft.

Because of so many other reasons.

Why all the jihadi terrorists of the world flock to Pakistan?

Not merely because of its sanctuaries.

Not merely because of the sponsorship of the ISI.

It is also because irrational individuals with a distorted mindset
find themselves more comfortable in Pakistan than anywhere else in
the Ummah.

One must call a spade a spade.

One must face the truth.

To point out all this does not mean one wishes ill of Pakistan and
wants it to perish.

Quite the contrary.

The real well-wishers of Pakistan and its people are those who have
the honesty and courage to draw attention to the negative features of
Pakistan and call on the Pakistani society to rid themselves of these
features.

We all want good relations with Pakistan and its people.

The TOI-Jang Bhai Bhai is not the way of doing it.

It has to be done through honest debate promoted and moderated by
people, who will not be suspected of having any ulterior interest in
their sudden-found leave for Aman between the two countries. (1-1-10)

(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat,
Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For
Topical Studies, Chennai. E-mail: seventyone2@gmail.com )

http://ramanstrategicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/01/toi-jang-bhaibhai.html

Not at the nation's cost

Rajiv Dogra
The Pioneer
Monday, January 11, 2010

It is nobody's case that there should be friction in India-Pakistan
relations. But let us not be taken for fools. Let us not walk into an
even bigger disaster than Sharm el-Sheikh. Our history is littered
with bilateral agreements which were honoured by Pakistan only to the
extent it suited them

The year gone by has proved conclusively that as a nation we catch a
cold if anyone so much as sneezes elsewhere. We are hardly an export-
dependent economy like China. Yet we spent most of last year
agonising over the economic disasters that lay ahead because the US
was in a financial meltdown. All this while China was reinforcing its
newly dominant position as US's equal on the world stage. And
throughout the year it resisted with resolute firmness the US demand
that it revalues its currency. We, on the other hand, found ourselves
fully in agreement with the American proposals at the G-20 meetings,
including those that involve an international oversight over the
domestic financial institutions.

It is not just the US that instills a sense of foreboding in our
governing psyche. Pakistan does so routinely, and in multiple forms.

Look at the way Ajmal Amir Kasab, the lone terrorist caught alive in
the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, mocked a nation of 1.2 billion from the
court room, hogging unnecessarily the front pages of newspapers and
the 24X7 television screens at will. Then, as if in celebration of
the turn of the year, three convicted Pakistani terrorists walked
away whimsically to their freedom after sharing a leisurely lunch at
a restaurant with a police officer.

Yet we spent most of last year shaking our collective fists at
Pakistan and threatening that never again would we tolerate another
attack.

It is, of course, another matter that Pakistan has long since got
tired of such resolves. Of late, it has begun to ignore these
fulminations as mere threats; just empty words in air. As a matter of
fact its crowning achievement last year was to diplomatically deflect
India's accusing finger away from it. Sharm el-Sheikh would long be
remembered as a self-goal by India, when it turned that accusing
finger towards itself. With that reference in the joint text to
Balochistan we agreed to become a co-accused with Pakistan in that
deadly game of terror.

Meanwhile, 26/11 continues to bewilder us. David Coleman Headley may
spill unpalatable beans and it might emerge that serving Pakistani
officers were involved in the planning and execution of the 26/11
massacre. But even then, and regardless of all our resolves of not
initiating the dialogue with Pakistan till the perpetrators of 26/11
have been brought to justice, we will find some way of making an
adjustment. Just as we have done so many times in the past.

That is why Pakistan does not take our threats seriously. Nor does it
buckle under rhetorical posturing of the type during Operation
Parakram.

It knows that we lack the spine and the national resolve. It also
knows that we are amenable to pressure from other, greater sources.
Pakistan is expectantly hoping that this time, under the garb of its
engagement in Afghanistan, pressure will mount to such an extent that
India may be pushed into making a concession on Kashmir.

Such things are possible only in India. Otherwise, is there any other
example in the world where a country ignores repeated acts of terror
against it and hope that forgiveness will prevent the perpetrators
from striking again?

As a matter of fact most other countries will pursue and destroy the
terrorists regardless of the costs, just as the large Nato coalition
is doing in Afghanistan, or as Russia and China have done in their
respective trouble spots. Recently, China was successful in getting
the Uighur terrorists repatriated to it from Pakistan, providing a
stark contrast to the stone walling our requests receive.

It is possible that we are being goaded into taking this path on the
advice of the big brother. If that is so, it would only be natural
because the manoeuvering for the next presidential term would start
in a year. A disaster in the AfPak region would not be good news for
Mr Barack Obama's new campaign. On the other hand, if India appeases
and pleases Pakistan the chances are that Pakistan may deliver just
enough for Mr Obama to withdraw with some honour from Afghanistan.

It may or may not play out that way in Afghanistan eventually, but in
the meanwhile India might have been cajoled into offering the
sacrifice. That this may be so is also aided by the fact that the US
may be misreading Pakistan, just as its intelligence agents are
misreading the local people. In a recent report the deputy chief of
US intelligence in Afghanistan maintained that US intelligence
officials were "ignorant of local economics and landowners, hazy
about who the power workers are and how they might be influenced ... and
disengaged from people in the best position to find answers."

But such misguidance is not all. An even greater surprise awaited us
on the morning of the New Year. Many would have rubbed their bleary
eyes in disbelief that a thing such as the one staring them in the
face was actually happening.

Who doesn't want peace? All right-thinking people do. But can peace
be achieved under a sword of terror? It is only the naïve who think
that the gentility of appeasement can overwhelm the roar of 26/11-
type attacks. But even the naïve had wept for the dead of Mumbai.
They are the ones who had come out to affirm that never again would
we let ourselves be lulled by false promises of Pakistan.

Yet on January 1, The Times of India teamed up with the Jang of
Pakistan to usher in what they jointly call, 'Aman ki Asha'. If
'Aman' was truly the intent then the paper had missed the irony in
the name and the record of its Pakistani partner.

It is said that in so far as India is concerned the daily effort of
the Jang is to live up to its name.

Moreover, is it the right time? After all, the threat of terror has
not receded. The Interior Minister of Pakistan continues unhindered
with his bellicose statements. Moreover, would any commitment made by
the Zardari Government be honoured by its successor?

The history of India-Pakistan relations is littered with bilateral
agreements which were honoured by Pakistan only to the extent it
suited them. What has since changed for us to trust an establishment
which has refused so far to return the massive Rupee loan it had
taken immediately after the partition?

Indeed the fundamental premise of the 'Aman ki Asha' exercise is
suspect. It maintains that a poll was conducted in six Indian cities
and with respondents in eight Pakistani cities and 36 villages. In
this exercise 66 per cent of those polled in India and 72 per cent in
Pakistan said they desire peaceful relations. If this is so then this
desire must be a closely held secret.

Look at the evidence coming in from elsewhere. A paranoid America has
selected Pakistan for racial profiling, even though the terrorist in
the recent airline incident was a Nigerian. British Prime Minister
Gordon Brown misses no opportunity to assert that 2/3 of all
terrorist attacks in the UK originate in Pakistan. Closer home in
Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai blames Pakistan bluntly for his
country's misfortunes.

A recent poll conducted in Afghanistan by International Republican
Institute revealed that as many as 72 per cent of Afghans view
Pakistan unfavourably. Amazingly, even the Taliban don't fare as
badly. As against 72 per cent in case of Pakistan, 67 per cent
Afghans viewed the Taliban negatively. And far more revealingly only
5 per cent of the Afghans polled wanted good relations with Pakistan!
Contrast this with the figure of 66 per cent allegedly concerning
Indians!

It is no one's case that there should be friction and bickering in
bilateral relations. But let us not be taken for fools. Let us not
walk into an even bigger disaster than Sharm el-Sheikh.

Even a Nobel Peace Prize would not be worth it.

- The writer is a former Ambassador.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/228336/Not-at-the-nation's-cost.html

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 5:06 am
From: Arumugham

FS -- For Sale
FSBM --Full Sensual Body Message
FSHO -- For Sure
FSM -- Female Seeking Male
FSU -- Friends Stand United
FTASB -- Faster Than A Speeding Bullet

Visit for more
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TOPIC: YouTube - NARENDRA MODI A TRUE BHARATIYA HERO *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 12:20 pm
From: "harmony"

enjoyed it very much.
it gave me the opportunity to also visit some other modi utube clips. it is
a pleasure to see he can motivate so many achieve so much so fast. this is
unheard of in any country, anywhere, period. all the formerly loss making
state enterprises and utilities are handsomely profitable - despite so many
new public programs and lower taxes. each public program is a huge success,
yielding great results in the quality of life. i think by the end of this
current term, modi will have most problems irreversibly solved because he is
creating self-checking systems too.
he now has a top class university dedicated to forensic science and crime
investigation whose graduates will be superbly equipped to tackle terror,
and enter law enforcement from day one. the man is preparing india to rise
to its unending challenges with great success.

modi used to shun the media, but now he is taking them on, and knocking them
down like rotten structures with astounding confidence i have never seen in
indian politicians - yet, i think it is a mistake, because he provides the
emc*2 media credibility they do not deserve. here he is steamrolling,
chiding and chastizing, rajdeep sardesai and his unholy gang at the
hindustan times with refreshing ease ( he is far more articulate than obama,
truth be told):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYD3fgqcmIQ

(look at rajdeep's chastised face after modi's scathing attack toward the
end).

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> YouTube - Narendra Modi A True Bharatiya Hero
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRswHWk6XuA&NR=1
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> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 12:39 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

The video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYD3fgqcmIQ
is worth watching. Dhanyavaad. And you are right on the money
about Obama, who is merely a teleprompter reader.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b4b8807$0$5340$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> enjoyed it very much.
> it gave me the opportunity to also visit some other modi utube clips. it is
> a pleasure to see he can motivate so many achieve so much so fast. this is
> unheard of in any country, anywhere, period. all the formerly loss making
> state enterprises and utilities are handsomely profitable - despite so many
> new public programs and lower taxes. each public program is a huge success,
> yielding great results in the quality of life. i think by the end of this
> current term, modi will have most problems irreversibly solved because he is
> creating self-checking systems too.
> he now has a top class university dedicated to forensic science and crime
> investigation whose graduates will be superbly equipped to tackle terror,
> and enter law enforcement from day one. the man is preparing india to rise
> to its unending challenges with great success.
>
>
> modi used to shun the media, but now he is taking them on, and knocking them
> down like rotten structures with astounding confidence i have never seen in
> indian politicians - yet, i think it is a mistake, because he provides the
> emc*2 media credibility they do not deserve. here he is steamrolling,
> chiding and chastizing, rajdeep sardesai and his unholy gang at the
> hindustan times with refreshing ease ( he is far more articulate than obama,
> truth be told):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYD3fgqcmIQ
>
> (look at rajdeep's chastised face after modi's scathing attack toward the
> end).

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > YouTube - Narendra Modi A True Bharatiya Hero
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRswHWk6XuA&NR=1
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Posted in
> >
> soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu,rec.arts.movies.loc
> al.indian,soc.culture.indian.gujarati
> >
>
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:49 pm
From: "P. Rajah"

http://prohibition.in/2009/11/29/busting-myths-of-gujarats-prohibition/

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TOPIC: GRADUATES LINE UP TO BE COOLIES
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Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:04 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Graduates line up to be coolies

By Shreya Bhandary, TNN
The Times of India
Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Applicants undertake physical test at the Parel Railway workshop in Mumbai.(TOI Photo)

Mumbai - BCom student Ganesh Sanap is now busy applying for jobs. The
latest job the 21-year-old third year student -- who has also
finished a Railway workshop course in computer hardware -- has
applied for is that of the post of a licensed porter in Central
Railway.

"As long as I get a job which pays me a decent sum, I don't mind
working as a coolie," Sanap said on Monday, after a test of his
physical endurance at the Parel Railway Workshop grounds. The student
of K J Somaiya, however, has not yet informed his parents.

"As long as I'm not doing anything illegal, I don't see why my
parents would object," he added. Sanap was not the only person --
looking to become a graduate soon -- who was there at Parel,
competing for a porter's job. There were, in fact, many more people -
- like Sagar Deshmukh and Madhav Avhad -- who graduated a couple of
years back but still came to apply for a porter's job on Monday.

For Narendra Kudalkar (26), a long phase of unemployment led him to
try out his luck. Earlier, he used to work as a supervisor at a
construction site before he was thrown out of the job without any
reason. "I never got a permanent post anywhere after that. I'm hoping
to land a job here," said Kudalkar.

Sanap and Kudalkar are among the 1,311 applicants -- many of them
graduates with additional professional qualifications -- vying for 79
jobs that don't guarantee them any income every day. The applicants
have to go through a stringent process before being sent for the
final selection.

After finishing a 1,500-metre run in seven minutes, the applicants
are sent for a medical screening. ''Half of the applicants turn up
for the medical tests and only those who pass that test are eligible
for the post,'' Central Railway PRO Anil K Singh said.

The long list of applications coming from graduates doesn't come as a
surprise to the railways. ''Many of these porters don't even stick to
the rates specified by the union and end up raking in extra money.
Moreover, they also get promotions on a regular basis,'' Singh said.
Former railway minister Lalu Prasad had introduced a scheme through
which porters could be promoted as railway gangmen. ''Once they get
hired as a porter, they can look forward to the job of a gangman.
This is the main attraction for all the applicants,'' added Singh.

But many applicants were not happy with the stringent procedures.
''We were made to run 200 metres in 40 seconds with 40 kgs on our
back. It is an impossible task,'' graduate applicant Sagar said.But
railway officials say it is a very important procedure.

More at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Graduates-line-up-to-be-coolies/articleshow/5434566.cms

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:07 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Kerala is now under a terrorist watch. Intelligence agencies from
around the world must have already planted their agents there.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b4b76bb$0$5329$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> best wishes to you. i ran into many in keral executives in mumbai who say
> the same as you do. 3m kerala is losing its hindu character, growing into a
> threat to india - now even developing a terrorist indusry; the daroowalas
> still haven't come out their huge hangover though. however, you will invite
> some idiot reactionaries out there, shouting over the daily reality, whose
> stupidity exceed all the hydrogen in the universe.
>
>
> "ro ha ha" <ravimpillay@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:884e4056-a9f9-4233-8095-4e3e0dfb8fc7@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> > ther problem of the mallus is THREE POINTS .
> >
> > 1. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHER ........ CULTURE / HARDWORK
> >
> > 2. THEY HAVE NO BALLS TO ASK DELHI TO GIVE THEM MONEY ... AND ACCEPT
> > WHAT IS DISHED OUT BY THE CENTRAL GOVERNEMT .
> >
> > 3. THEY WOULD RATHER SUCK COMMUNIST / CONGRESS COCK THAN REBEL .
> >
> > THEY ALWAYS ARE FOND OF ARGUEMENT AND LOVE
> > ARGUING FOR THE FUCK OF IT ...
> >
> > SO THEY WILL SUFFER...
> >
> > WE CAME OUT OF KERALA ABOUT 2 GENERATIONS AGO AND ARE PROSPEROUS ...
> > BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SECULARIST SHIT
> >
>
>

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:59 pm
From: "harmony"

this is one hugely messed up state, like bengal.
did you know kirastani education minister of kerala, with a silly name
"baby", is controlling the sankrit university of kerala?
the fat kirastani education minister, not particularly well educated
himself, can't communicate in sanskrit.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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> Kerala is now under a terrorist watch. Intelligence agencies from
> around the world must have already planted their agents there.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b4b76bb$0$5329$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> best wishes to you. i ran into many in keral executives in mumbai who say
>> the same as you do. 3m kerala is losing its hindu character, growing into
>> a
>> threat to india - now even developing a terrorist indusry; the daroowalas
>> still haven't come out their huge hangover though. however, you will
>> invite
>> some idiot reactionaries out there, shouting over the daily reality,
>> whose
>> stupidity exceed all the hydrogen in the universe.
>>
>>
>> "ro ha ha" <ravimpillay@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:884e4056-a9f9-4233-8095-4e3e0dfb8fc7@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> > ther problem of the mallus is THREE POINTS .
>> >
>> > 1. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHER ........ CULTURE / HARDWORK
>> >
>> > 2. THEY HAVE NO BALLS TO ASK DELHI TO GIVE THEM MONEY ... AND ACCEPT
>> > WHAT IS DISHED OUT BY THE CENTRAL GOVERNEMT .
>> >
>> > 3. THEY WOULD RATHER SUCK COMMUNIST / CONGRESS COCK THAN REBEL .
>> >
>> > THEY ALWAYS ARE FOND OF ARGUEMENT AND LOVE
>> > ARGUING FOR THE FUCK OF IT ...
>> >
>> > SO THEY WILL SUFFER...
>> >
>> > WE CAME OUT OF KERALA ABOUT 2 GENERATIONS AGO AND ARE PROSPEROUS ...
>> > BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SECULARIST SHIT
>> >
>>
>>

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:13 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Forget Sanskrit, MA Baby speaks only broken Hindi according to his
web site. Also, he's a Marxist commie -- CPI(M).

Perhaps someone can contact him and talk some sense into him.
Here's MA Baby's contact information from his web site:

Room No.208, Second Floor, North Sandwich Block,
Govt. Secretariat, Tthiruvananthapuram 1.
Ph. 0471 - 2327759, 2327561
email: minister-education@kerala.gov.in

Residence

Ushus, Cliff House Compound
Nanthancode, Thiruvananthapuram - 3
Phone: 0471 - 2725671, 2725673

Permanent Address

A 4, AKG Quarters, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala
Phone: 0471-2305731 (o)
0471-2468822 (r)
9447163453

http://www.minister-education.kerala.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b4b9f5b$0$5320$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> this is one hugely messed up state, like bengal.
> did you know kirastani education minister of kerala, with a silly name
> "baby", is controlling the sankrit university of kerala?
> the fat kirastani education minister, not particularly well educated
> himself, can't communicate in sanskrit.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Kerala is now under a terrorist watch. Intelligence agencies from
> > around the world must have already planted their agents there.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b4b76bb$0$5329$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> best wishes to you. i ran into many in keral executives in mumbai who say
> >> the same as you do. 3m kerala is losing its hindu character, growing into
> >> a
> >> threat to india - now even developing a terrorist indusry; the daroowalas
> >> still haven't come out their huge hangover though. however, you will
> >> invite
> >> some idiot reactionaries out there, shouting over the daily reality,
> >> whose
> >> stupidity exceed all the hydrogen in the universe.
> >>
> >>
> >> "ro ha ha" <ravimpillay@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:884e4056-a9f9-4233-8095-4e3e0dfb8fc7@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > ther problem of the mallus is THREE POINTS .
> >> >
> >> > 1. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHER ........ CULTURE / HARDWORK
> >> >
> >> > 2. THEY HAVE NO BALLS TO ASK DELHI TO GIVE THEM MONEY ... AND ACCEPT
> >> > WHAT IS DISHED OUT BY THE CENTRAL GOVERNEMT .
> >> >
> >> > 3. THEY WOULD RATHER SUCK COMMUNIST / CONGRESS COCK THAN REBEL .
> >> >
> >> > THEY ALWAYS ARE FOND OF ARGUEMENT AND LOVE
> >> > ARGUING FOR THE FUCK OF IT ...
> >> >
> >> > SO THEY WILL SUFFER...
> >> >
> >> > WE CAME OUT OF KERALA ABOUT 2 GENERATIONS AGO AND ARE PROSPEROUS ...
> >> > BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SECULARIST SHIT
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:39 pm
From: "harmony"

this guy when young was a student union leader, was jailed for several
months for rioting and terror - arindam's role model.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100111E15yOIq1d9PcIU98LbA2XoL@H8ZuC...
> Forget Sanskrit, MA Baby speaks only broken Hindi according to his
> web site. Also, he's a Marxist commie -- CPI(M).
>
> Perhaps someone can contact him and talk some sense into him.
> Here's MA Baby's contact information from his web site:
>
> Room No.208, Second Floor, North Sandwich Block,
> Govt. Secretariat, Tthiruvananthapuram 1.
> Ph. 0471 - 2327759, 2327561
> email: minister-education@kerala.gov.in
>
> Residence
>
> Ushus, Cliff House Compound
> Nanthancode, Thiruvananthapuram - 3
> Phone: 0471 - 2725671, 2725673
>
> Permanent Address
>
> A 4, AKG Quarters, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala
> Phone: 0471-2305731 (o)
> 0471-2468822 (r)
> 9447163453
>
> http://www.minister-education.kerala.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b4b9f5b$0$5320$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> this is one hugely messed up state, like bengal.
>> did you know kirastani education minister of kerala, with a silly name
>> "baby", is controlling the sankrit university of kerala?
>> the fat kirastani education minister, not particularly well educated
>> himself, can't communicate in sanskrit.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Kerala is now under a terrorist watch. Intelligence agencies from
>> > around the world must have already planted their agents there.
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>> > In article <4b4b76bb$0$5329$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >>
>> >> best wishes to you. i ran into many in keral executives in mumbai who
>> >> say
>> >> the same as you do. 3m kerala is losing its hindu character, growing
>> >> into
>> >> a
>> >> threat to india - now even developing a terrorist indusry; the
>> >> daroowalas
>> >> still haven't come out their huge hangover though. however, you will
>> >> invite
>> >> some idiot reactionaries out there, shouting over the daily reality,
>> >> whose
>> >> stupidity exceed all the hydrogen in the universe.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "ro ha ha" <ravimpillay@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:884e4056-a9f9-4233-8095-4e3e0dfb8fc7@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > ther problem of the mallus is THREE POINTS .
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHER ........ CULTURE / HARDWORK
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. THEY HAVE NO BALLS TO ASK DELHI TO GIVE THEM MONEY ... AND ACCEPT
>> >> > WHAT IS DISHED OUT BY THE CENTRAL GOVERNEMT .
>> >> >
>> >> > 3. THEY WOULD RATHER SUCK COMMUNIST / CONGRESS COCK THAN REBEL .
>> >> >
>> >> > THEY ALWAYS ARE FOND OF ARGUEMENT AND LOVE
>> >> > ARGUING FOR THE FUCK OF IT ...
>> >> >
>> >> > SO THEY WILL SUFFER...
>> >> >
>> >> > WE CAME OUT OF KERALA ABOUT 2 GENERATIONS AGO AND ARE PROSPEROUS ...
>> >> > BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SECULARIST SHIT
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 3:03 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Too bad MA Baby was turned loose. Bharat needs a GITMO-like facility
for these commie terrorists. They can ply their trade there in a
5'x7' cell all they want for the rest of their lives. Arindam can
visit there and lecture them about Einstein.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b4ba8b2$0$5346$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> this guy when young was a student union leader, was jailed for several
> months for rioting and terror - arindam's role model.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Forget Sanskrit, MA Baby speaks only broken Hindi according to his
> > web site. Also, he's a Marxist commie -- CPI(M).
> >
> > Perhaps someone can contact him and talk some sense into him.
> > Here's MA Baby's contact information from his web site:
> >
> > Room No.208, Second Floor, North Sandwich Block,
> > Govt. Secretariat, Tthiruvananthapuram 1.
> > Ph. 0471 - 2327759, 2327561
> > email: minister-education@kerala.gov.in
> >
> > Residence
> >
> > Ushus, Cliff House Compound
> > Nanthancode, Thiruvananthapuram - 3
> > Phone: 0471 - 2725671, 2725673
> >
> > Permanent Address
> >
> > A 4, AKG Quarters, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala
> > Phone: 0471-2305731 (o)
> > 0471-2468822 (r)
> > 9447163453
> >
> >
> http://www.minister-education.kerala.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&task
> =view&id=12&Itemid=26
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b4b9f5b$0$5320$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> this is one hugely messed up state, like bengal.
> >> did you know kirastani education minister of kerala, with a silly name
> >> "baby", is controlling the sankrit university of kerala?
> >> the fat kirastani education minister, not particularly well educated
> >> himself, can't communicate in sanskrit.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > Kerala is now under a terrorist watch. Intelligence agencies from
> >> > around the world must have already planted their agents there.
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >
> >> > In article <4b4b76bb$0$5329$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> best wishes to you. i ran into many in keral executives in mumbai who
> >> >> say
> >> >> the same as you do. 3m kerala is losing its hindu character, growing
> >> >> into
> >> >> a
> >> >> threat to india - now even developing a terrorist indusry; the
> >> >> daroowalas
> >> >> still haven't come out their huge hangover though. however, you will
> >> >> invite
> >> >> some idiot reactionaries out there, shouting over the daily reality,
> >> >> whose
> >> >> stupidity exceed all the hydrogen in the universe.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "ro ha ha" <ravimpillay@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:884e4056-a9f9-4233-8095-4e3e0dfb8fc7@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > ther problem of the mallus is THREE POINTS .
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHER ........ CULTURE / HARDWORK
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2. THEY HAVE NO BALLS TO ASK DELHI TO GIVE THEM MONEY ... AND ACCEPT
> >> >> > WHAT IS DISHED OUT BY THE CENTRAL GOVERNEMT .
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3. THEY WOULD RATHER SUCK COMMUNIST / CONGRESS COCK THAN REBEL .
> >> >> >
> >> >> > THEY ALWAYS ARE FOND OF ARGUEMENT AND LOVE
> >> >> > ARGUING FOR THE FUCK OF IT ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > SO THEY WILL SUFFER...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > WE CAME OUT OF KERALA ABOUT 2 GENERATIONS AGO AND ARE PROSPEROUS ...
> >> >> > BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SECULARIST SHIT
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:17 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

The EC is as crooked as they come, and EVMs? Well, software is king in this case.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4a11e43d$0$23769$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> i am really surprised there is no tumult in india over this very obvious
> fraud.
> the ec simply does not have the capability to ensure the total integrity of
> evm techincally to begin with. and even if it did, ec is not dependable. the
> evm counting is not transparent, not verifiable. no democrazy can accept
> such voting. indian people are being had.

> "deprofundis" <deprofundis@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f08574f5-a300-4b48-90d2-da9f68d62eb0@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > What explains Congress�s victory? In fact there are several reasons
> > why the last five years of UPA rule have been disastrous. I am
> > reminded of Ronald Reagan's famous jibe: 'Are you better off than you
> > were four years ago?' Absolutely not, in area after area. Vast tracts
> > of India has no access to potable water. 55 million people have been
> > pushed below the poverty in the last 5 years. 182 of India's 602
> > districts are Naxal infested. We've a highly unstable neighbor on our
> > Western border. The Army has a shortfall of 11,200 officers. UPA tried
> > to communalize the Army by introducing reservations for Muslims (an
> > insult to brave Muslim defense personnel like Havlildar Abdul Hamid,
> > PVC, and Air Chief Marshal Latif). According to the Planning
> > Commission of India, 600 million people � roughly half the population
> > � are off the electric grid. Infrastructure is in a shambles. The
> > budget deficit is around 13% to 15%, one of the highest in the world.
> > Farmer suicides touched new highs. We're in the midst of a horrible
> > recession. Unemployment is on the rise and bar the last few months,
> > inflation was soaring. Terrorism is the order of the day. Terrorists
> > attack Indian cities at will. There were 66 bomb lasts in 2008 alone,
> > not counting the Mumbai terror attacks on 26/11. UPA abolished legal
> > deterrents like POTA and TADA. Indian voters normally always give an
> > anti-incumbency vote unless there is some strong emotion involved
> > (1984: India�s Gandhi�s assassination. 1991: Rajiv Gandhi�s
> > assassination). Here is a theory:
> >
> >
> >
> > Rajeev Srinivasan, a columnist, has posted his views in the rediff.com
> >
> > http://election.rediff.com/column/2009/may/17/loksabhapoll-after-the-counting-
> > and-other-stories.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Indian voter is not stupid, and is exquisitely sensitive to things
> > that affect his wallet. Therefore it is a little surprising that the
> > average voter drank the UPA�s Kool-Aid.
> >
> > There is, of course, the possibility that the average voter did not in
> > fact fall for the UPA�s charms, and that this election was subject to
> > massive fraud. I am talking about Electronic Voting Machines (EVMs).
> > Having spent many years in the high-tech world, I do not trust
> > computers, especially embedded systems. Researchers in the US have
> > shown how easy it is to break into EVMs, which is why they have not
> > adopted them. They have realised how important it is to have a paper
> > audit trail, hanging chads and all.
> >
> > It would not be extraordinarily difficult to install a programme with
> > a Trojan Horse in it. To outward appearances and to ordinary testing,
> > the programme would appear normal. However, when it is fed a sequence
> > of keystrokes by the agent of the party committing the fraud, the
> > Trojan Horse wakes up, and then, regardless of what buttons the voter
> > actually presses, it can assign a certain (non-suspicious-looking)
> > percentage (not 90% but, say 45%) to the preferred party. The Trojan
> > Horse can even be programmed to quietly delete itself when the voting
> > is over. Nobody would know any better, as there is no paper trail.
> >
> > Let me emphasize that I do not have any evidence that this happened in
> > 2009, but it is worth investigating. There were too many surprising �
> > almost miraculous � victories by certain candidates whom the casual
> > observer would have written off. By Occam�s Razor (To
> > straightforwardly summarize the principle as it is most commonly
> > understood, �The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is most likely
> > the correct explanation."), the simplest explanation is fraud. I would
> > like to note in passing that in 2004, expecting the NDA to commit
> > fraud, an Indian Communist in the US had prepared a suit alleging EVM
> > fraud. Therefore it is clear that the thought has occurred to various
> > people that there could be EVM fraud.
> >
> > "We don't want to end poverty. If there is no poverty, who needs us?"
> > This accurately reflects the UPA's beliefs as well. Their slogans will
> > have no takers unless there is a large, hopeless underclass.
> >
> > In any case, the 2009 elections, I repeat, were an inflexion point or
> > a tipping point, which will mark the rapid decline of India. Looking
> > back, historians will identify this election as the precise moment
> > that India as a nation and a civilization began unraveling. It is
> > fairly likely that India would have become a dismembered state by
> > 2025, thus fulfilling a long-felt need in certain hostile quarters --
> > one in which both the Communists and the West see eye to eye -- to
> > break up India.
> >
> > PS: If you feel this is too much of a conspiracy theory do a search on
> > Operation Northwoods: Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-
> > flag conspiracy plan, proposed within the United States government in
> > 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent
> > acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war
> > against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban
> > terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in
> > Washington".
> >
> > This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for
> > hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that
> > would blame the terrorist acts on a foreign government, namely Cuba.
> >
> > Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and
> > signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of
> > Defense.
> >
> > Several other proposals were listed, including the real or simulated
> > actions against various U.S military and civilian targets. Operation
> > Northwoods was part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project (Operation
> > Mongoose) anti-Castro initiative. It was never officially accepted or
> > executed by President John F Kennedy.
>

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TOPIC: This newsgroup sucks....big time!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:24 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4a11c3e2$2$5899$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
ThickTamizhan <nutjob@toronto.com> posted:
>
> There is nothing of any value whatsoever being discussed here. It seems
> like most posters are simply expressing their hatred of other Indians
> based on religion. If one post is made on a constructive note, it
> immediately degenerates into religious mudslinging. Even those who start
> out showing no bias slip into this nonsense. And these are the
> "educated" Indians! God help the rest of them!
> - nutjob@toronto.com

The above is from "nutjob@toronto.com"
Hilarious!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:21 pm
From: Don

On Jan 12, 2:24 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <4a11c3e2$2$5899$607ed...@cv.net>,
> ThickTamizhan <nut...@toronto.com> posted:
>
>
>
> > There is nothing of any value whatsoever being discussed here. It seems
> > like most posters are simply expressing their hatred of other Indians
> > based on religion. If one post is made on a constructive note, it
> > immediately degenerates into religious mudslinging. Even those who start
> > out showing no bias slip into this nonsense. And these are the
> > "educated" Indians! God help the rest of them!
> > - nut...@toronto.com
>
> The above is from "nut...@toronto.com"
> Hilarious!
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

Abe Chutiye Jai Maharaj, are you jobless after the thumping your RSS
got in the elections? Why are you spamming newsgroups with your
nonsense?

Don

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TOPIC: YEMENI OFFICIALS ADMIT THEY ARE LOSING THE BATTLE AGAINST AL-QAEDA ***
Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:45 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Yemeni officials admit they are losing the battle against al-Qaeda

Yemeni officials have admitted they are losing the battle against al-
Qaeda and the terror group is extending its reach into remote regions
where state control has all but disappeared.

By Adrian Blomfield in Zinjibar
The Telegraph, UK
Monday, January 11, 2010

[Caption] Men claiming to be Al-Qaeda members address a crowd
in Yemen's southern province of Abyan Photo: AFP/GETTY

Regional politicians have presented a much bleaker prognosis than the
authorities in the capital Sana'a, who have repeatedly sought to play
down the threat posed by extremists in the wake of the Detroit terror
attack.

They say al-Qaeda has forged its strongest relationship with local
tribes in the sparsely populated mountains and desert of the south,
where long simmering resentment of the government has given way to
near-rebellion.

On the outskirts of Zinjibar, the ramshackle principal town of Abyan
province, the gates of an ageing villa set deep in a banana
plantation are guarded by more than a dozen Yemeni soldiers and
policemen.

Sitting inside his heavily protected official residence, Ahmed al-
Misri, Abyan's governor, is a gloomy man who frankly admits he
regrets ever having taken up the job.

As well he might, Yemen observers say. Along with the provinces of
Shabwa and Marib, Mr Misri's fiefdom forms an ungovernable crescent
east of Sana'a and Aden, Yemen's main cities, which many commentators
have described as "the new Waziristan".

With al-Qaeda growing ever stronger and local secessionists gaining
such momentum that many commentators predict civil war, Mr Misri is
so besieged by enemies that he is said rarely to leave his residence.

That is not entirely true. Protected by a local tribal code under
which his kinsmen would be entitled to avenge his death, Mr Misri
does venture out into the province.

The same is not the case, he conceded, for government forces, who
were so weak and poorly equipped that they had effectively
surrendered control of much of Abyan to al-Qaeda militants.

"To speak plainly, [government control] is not so strong," he told
The Daily Telegraph from Abyan, normally a closed security zone.

"We don't have enough weapons. We don't have enough soldiers. Our
resources are so few that if something happens in the countryside, we
can't respond because there are no helicopters or aeroplanes."

Such analysis will cause deep disquiet in Washington, which has
indicated it has no choice but to leave Yemeni forces to lead the
fight against al-Qaeda.

Since the Detroit attack, responsibility for which has been claimed
by Yemen's al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, government officials in
Sana'a have been quoted as saying thousands of troops had been
deployed to provinces like Abyan.

But in a disclosure that will raise worrying questions about the
Yemeni's government's commitment, the governor claimed the deployment
was a charade, with troops being rotated between provinces to give
the impression that a major offensive was under way.

Al-Qaeda has emerged as a particularly potent force in the past eight
months after it was reinforced by an unknown number of new arrivals
from Saudi Arabia who had access to considerable funding.

Dividing themselves into small cells, they embedded themselves among
nomadic Bedouin tribes in the mountains so cut off from the modern
world that many had not heard of al-Qaeda, the governor said.

The new arrivals, with assistance from their Yemeni counterparts,
found it easy to win acceptance. Introducing themselves as religious
scholars, they proved they had deeper pockets than the government,
digging wells, offering religious schooling to unemployed youngsters
and doling out AK-47s to weapons-hungry tribesmen.

Mr Misri conceded the government had been outmanoeuvred: "If the
government gives them $50, al-Qaeda gives them $100," he said.

With unemployment in his region at 50 per cent, the American and
Yemeni governments may find that outbidding al-Qaeda for tribal
loyalties may be the most effective course to victory.

The use of force has so far has had mixed consequences. An air strike
against a Bedouin mountain encampment called Maajala on Christmas Eve
killed 14 al-Qaeda members, including the leader in Abyan, the
governor said. But it also killed 45 tribesmen, among them 18 women
and 15 children, who may have had no idea of whom they were
sheltering, he added.

Yaslam Abu-Sit, the first Abyan official to reach the encampment said
he discovered a scene of carnage: "There were just five survivors;
three girls, a woman and a youth of 16."

News of the attack enraged many southerners. Future strikes, analysts
warn, only risk deepening sympathy for al-Qaeda and turning people
both against the United States and the Yemeni government.

Already deeply disillusioned, the ranks of the south's main
secessionist group, the Southern Movement, could swell, tipping the
country into full-scale civil war -- an outcome that would make the
task of defeating al-Qaeda much more difficult than it already is.

More at:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/yemen/6968221/Yemeni-officials-admit-they-are-losing-the-battle-against-al-Qaeda.html

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

Since newsgroup posts are being removed
by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
this post may be reposted several times.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:53 pm
From: "harmony"

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100111I8f7Zkp9G6z96XUew39dRSF@B1sQ2...
> Yemeni officials admit they are losing the battle against al-Qaeda
>

which tells you mainstream muslim society is terrorist.
this same story in most muslims countries.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:57 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b4babd1$0$5348$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Yemeni officials admit they are losing the battle against al-Qaeda
> > . . .

> which tells you mainstream muslim society is terrorist.
> this same story in most muslims countries.

And soon to be so in the U.S. if the Islamization of America
is allowed to continue. It must be stopped.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: Mr Modi, show courage and lift prohibition
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 1:53 pm
From: "P. Rajah"

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/masala-noodles/entry/mr-modi-show-courage-and

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:26 pm
From: "harmony"

not his fault, really.
it's hard to be in class when you have more demanding things to do, like
attending the student union meetings to plan where to bring rocks from to
break the school window glasses, and extort money from passing cars.
is the report true that the dillie police won't allow any one with rocks in
hands within 100 yards of the gandhi memorial?

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100108Qs36ik7ZMG35LEE03u0CW7z@V54NU...
> He is flying hyperbolically. He can't calculate the correct flight
> path; sure enough, he cut classes at the IIT, as he has confessed,
> failing the attendance requirements, fraudulently obtaining the
> B.Tech.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b47e182$0$5334$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> bandars are very honorable beings. and that holds out the hope. he seems
>> to
>> have a good inter-tree swing but always catches dried out branches.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > His last name "Banerjee" is related to "vanar" or "bandar".
>> > Perhaps he can still see the light and become as wise as a bandar.
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>
>> > In article <4b47c4a6$0$5326$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >>
>> >> arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his
>> >> delusions
>> >> ideological.
>
>> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >>
>> >> > The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
>> >> > FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
>> >> > Savage.
>> >> >
>> >> > As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
>> >> > have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
>> >> > foolishness.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >> > Om Shanti
>
>> >> > In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thank you.
>> >> >> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama
>> >> >> blindly.
>> >> >> thre
>> >> >> will never be another einstein again.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I agree with harmony ji. To those who must use the phrase
>> >> >> >"radical
>> >> >> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a
>> >> >> > terrorist
>> >> >> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >> >> > Om Shanti
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> >> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the
>> >> >> >> enemy
>> >> >> >> either -
>> >> >> >> the job it wants obama to do.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by
>> >> >> >> pundits,
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
>> >> >> >> thankfully
>> >> >> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
>> >> >> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the
>> >> >> >> proof
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> way
>> >> >> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones". what drives
>> >> >> >> terrorism
>> >> >> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting
>> >> >> >> terrorists
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is islam of koran. no
>> >> >> >> recruit
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has
>> >> >> >> koranic
>> >> >> >> war
>> >> >> >> manual
>> >> >> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran,
>> >> >> >> afghanistan,
>> >> >> >> yemen,
>> >> >> >> malysia on and on.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan
>> >> >> >> world.
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
>> >> >> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
>> >> >> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan
>> >> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> made
>> >> >> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
>> >> >> >> japanese
>> >> >> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to
>> >> >> >> misunderstand
>> >> >> >> islam
>> >> >> >> as religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
>> >> >> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if
>> >> >> >> islam
>> >> >> >> did?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Name the enemy
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Editorial
>> >> >> >> > The Jerusalem Post
>> >> >> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
>> >> >> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
>> >> >> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices
>> >> >> >> > ahead.
>> >> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World
>> >> >> >> > Trade
>> >> >> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried
>> >> >> >> > out
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born
>> >> >> >> > Muslim,
>> >> >> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking
>> >> >> >> > bombs."
>> >> >> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five
>> >> >> >> > young
>> >> >> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against
>> >> >> >> > America
>> >> >> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a
>> >> >> >> > threat --
>> >> >> >> > just
>> >> >> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest
>> >> >> >> > Flight
>> >> >> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder
>> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with
>> >> >> >> > bases
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere
>> >> >> >> > else,
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a
>> >> >> >> > relentless
>> >> >> >> > state
>> >> >> >> > of war with the West.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan,
>> >> >> >> > Pakistan,
>> >> >> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the
>> >> >> >> > [Abdulmutallab]
>> >> >> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full
>> >> >> >> > chaos
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
>> >> >> >> > al-Qaida."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the
>> >> >> >> > conflict,
>> >> >> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not
>> >> >> >> > properly
>> >> >> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a
>> >> >> >> > "war
>> >> >> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
>> >> >> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
>> >> >> >> > courage
>> >> >> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically --
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or
>> >> >> >> > Arabia --
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim
>> >> >> >> > civilization.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say,
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of
>> >> >> >> > seven
>> >> >> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted
>> >> >> >> > ax-murder
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend --
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want,
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
>> >> >> >> > reaction
>> >> >> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it
>> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that
>> >> >> >> > Abdulmutallab
>> >> >> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
>> >> >> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt,
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten
>> >> >> >> > us...anywhere
>> >> >> >> > where
>> >> >> >> > they are planning attacks..."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the
>> >> >> >> > world."
>> >> >> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the
>> >> >> >> > enemy,
>> >> >> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be
>> >> >> >> > able
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
>> >> >> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
>> >> >> >> > trusted.
>> >> >> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were
>> >> >> >> > freed
>> >> >> >> > in a
>> >> >> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > Yemeni secret police.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the
>> >> >> >> > struggle
>> >> >> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an
>> >> >> >> > enemy
>> >> >> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance
>> >> >> >> > by
>> >> >> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to
>> >> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes
>> >> >> >> > accidentally
>> >> >> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen
>> >> >> >> > that,
>> >> >> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not
>> >> >> >> > terrorists,
>> >> >> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for
>> >> >> >> > profiling.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front,
>> >> >> >> > against
>> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for
>> >> >> >> > success.
>> >> >> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which
>> >> >> >> > wants
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would
>> >> >> >> > mean
>> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and
>> >> >> >> > democracy.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > More at:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPost%2FJPA
>> >> >> >> rticle%2FShowFull
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >> >> >> > Om Shanti
>> >> >> >> >
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 3:19 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

I don't doubt that report about keeping rock throwers away from
Rajghat one bit, especially since commies such as Arindam have
published terroristic threats. The government of Australia, where he
appears to be a naturalized citizen, needs to reconsider his status.

IIT-D was still under construction and expansion then. Rocks, tiles
and other material were everywhere. There were broken windows too,
ventilators mostly, through which these terrorists crawled to steal
lab equipment to sell in Puraanee Dillee's Kabar(r)i Bazaar. Perhaps
that is how he raised the money for his used motorcycle or moped,
whatever it was. There is a long, hilly road from where the hostels
are to the front gate and security were often called to investigate
rock throwers. I had no idea that one of the suspects I'd seen
being led away wearing hathkar(r)is would one day be posting against
Einstein in these newsgroups. It's a small world, and the capsules
of time even smaller.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b4ba591$0$5320$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> not his fault, really.
> it's hard to be in class when you have more demanding things to do, like
> attending the student union meetings to plan where to bring rocks from to
> break the school window glasses, and extort money from passing cars.
> is the report true that the dillie police won't allow any one with rocks in
> hands within 100 yards of the gandhi memorial?

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > He is flying hyperbolically. He can't calculate the correct flight
> > path; sure enough, he cut classes at the IIT, as he has confessed,
> > failing the attendance requirements, fraudulently obtaining the
> > B.Tech.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti

> > In article <4b47e182$0$5334$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> bandars are very honorable beings. and that holds out the hope. he seems
> >> to
> >> have a good inter-tree swing but always catches dried out branches.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > His last name "Banerjee" is related to "vanar" or "bandar".
> >> > Perhaps he can still see the light and become as wise as a bandar.
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> > Om Shanti
> >
> >> > In article <4b47c4a6$0$5326$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his
> >> >> delusions
> >> >> ideological.
> >
> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> > The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
> >> >> > FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
> >> >> > Savage.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
> >> >> > have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
> >> >> > foolishness.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> > Om Shanti
> >
> >> >> > In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> thank you.
> >> >> >> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama
> >> >> >> blindly.
> >> >> >> thre
> >> >> >> will never be another einstein again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I agree with harmony ji. To those who must use the phrase
> >> >> >> >"radical
> >> >> >> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a
> >> >> >> > terrorist
> >> >> >> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> >> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the
> >> >> >> >> enemy
> >> >> >> >> either -
> >> >> >> >> the job it wants obama to do.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by
> >> >> >> >> pundits,
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
> >> >> >> >> thankfully
> >> >> >> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
> >> >> >> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the
> >> >> >> >> proof
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> way
> >> >> >> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones". what drives
> >> >> >> >> terrorism
> >> >> >> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting
> >> >> >> >> terrorists
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is islam of koran. no
> >> >> >> >> recruit
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has
> >> >> >> >> koranic
> >> >> >> >> war
> >> >> >> >> manual
> >> >> >> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran,
> >> >> >> >> afghanistan,
> >> >> >> >> yemen,
> >> >> >> >> malysia on and on.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan
> >> >> >> >> world.
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
> >> >> >> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
> >> >> >> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan
> >> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> >> made
> >> >> >> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
> >> >> >> >> japanese
> >> >> >> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to
> >> >> >> >> misunderstand
> >> >> >> >> islam
> >> >> >> >> as religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
> >> >> >> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if
> >> >> >> >> islam
> >> >> >> >> did?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Name the enemy
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Editorial
> >> >> >> >> > The Jerusalem Post
> >> >> >> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
> >> >> >> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot
> >> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
> >> >> >> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices
> >> >> >> >> > ahead.
> >> >> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World
> >> >> >> >> > Trade
> >> >> >> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried
> >> >> >> >> > out
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born
> >> >> >> >> > Muslim,
> >> >> >> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking
> >> >> >> >> > bombs."
> >> >> >> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five
> >> >> >> >> > young
> >> >> >> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against
> >> >> >> >> > America
> >> >> >> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a
> >> >> >> >> > threat --
> >> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest
> >> >> >> >> > Flight
> >> >> >> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder
> >> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with
> >> >> >> >> > bases
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere
> >> >> >> >> > else,
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a
> >> >> >> >> > relentless
> >> >> >> >> > state
> >> >> >> >> > of war with the West.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan,
> >> >> >> >> > Pakistan,
> >> >> >> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the
> >> >> >> >> > [Abdulmutallab]
> >> >> >> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full
> >> >> >> >> > chaos
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
> >> >> >> >> > al-Qaida."
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the
> >> >> >> >> > conflict,
> >> >> >> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not
> >> >> >> >> > properly
> >> >> >> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a
> >> >> >> >> > "war
> >> >> >> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
> >> >> >> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
> >> >> >> >> > courage
> >> >> >> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically --
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or
> >> >> >> >> > Arabia --
> >> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim
> >> >> >> >> > civilization.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say,
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of
> >> >> >> >> > seven
> >> >> >> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted
> >> >> >> >> > ax-murder
> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend --
> >> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want,
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
> >> >> >> >> > reaction
> >> >> >> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it
> >> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that
> >> >> >> >> > Abdulmutallab
> >> >> >> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
> >> >> >> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt,
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten
> >> >> >> >> > us...anywhere
> >> >> >> >> > where
> >> >> >> >> > they are planning attacks..."
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the
> >> >> >> >> > world."
> >> >> >> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the
> >> >> >> >> > enemy,
> >> >> >> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be
> >> >> >> >> > able
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
> >> >> >> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
> >> >> >> >> > trusted.
> >> >> >> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were
> >> >> >> >> > freed
> >> >> >> >> > in a
> >> >> >> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > Yemeni secret police.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the
> >> >> >> >> > struggle
> >> >> >> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an
> >> >> >> >> > enemy
> >> >> >> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance
> >> >> >> >> > by
> >> >> >> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to
> >> >> >> >> > know
> >> >> >> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes
> >> >> >> >> > accidentally
> >> >> >> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen
> >> >> >> >> > that,
> >> >> >> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not
> >> >> >> >> > terrorists,
> >> >> >> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for
> >> >> >> >> > profiling.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front,
> >> >> >> >> > against
> >> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for
> >> >> >> >> > success.
> >> >> >> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which
> >> >> >> >> > wants
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would
> >> >> >> >> > mean
> >> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and
> >> >> >> >> > democracy.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > More at:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> >> >> >> rticle%2FShowFull
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> >> >> > Om Shanti
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TOPIC: YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE MUSLIM IDEOLOGY BY SENDING USA TROOPS TO
AFHANISTAN TO DIE.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/10a7e489588f0faa?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:38 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

> YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE MUSLIM IDEOLOGY BY . . .
> - German <german.gunter@yahoo.com>

Forget trying to change Muslim ideology. Just kill it.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <2b201287-0eda-4438-ba4c-3d567a687ba2@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
German <german.gunter@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> Islamic control of the Europe through immigration and population
> increase,
> drop in Christian population, downfall of the USA through China/Pak
> and Muslim terrorism is the greatest
> treats to the West.
>
> China has overtaken Germany in the export and soon will overtake the
> USA too.
>
> Unfortunately there is no US army base in Magnolia, Vietnam or India
> to control China.
> No plan to defeat Muslims. Every Muslim belief that defeat of the US
> is the defeat of
> the Christians and the West.
>
>
> G

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TOPIC: WHAT'S ISLAM? DON'T ASK GOOGLE *** Jai Maharaj posts
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/6b7e17c618cd8877?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:46 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <e037dabf-74a9-4873-8211-a5aa252100eb@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > The Fifth Column
> >
> > What's Islam? Don't Ask Google
> >
> > FOX News
> > Sunday, January 10, 2010
> >
> > Type a few words into the search field on Google's home page and the
> > engine automatically returns a helpful list of popular, similar
> > searches for the words you've typed in so far -- a convenient way to
> > find the right information.
> >
> > Enter "Christianity is" and you'll find results that, while
> > offensive, at least indicate common discussions on the Internet.
> > Likewise, type "Judaism is" and Google suggests other, potentially
> > offensive searches such as "Judaism is false" and "Judaism is not a
> > race."
> >
> > But type "Islam is" into the search engine and Google's auto-results
> > pane mysteriously vanishes, leading some to conclude that Google,
> > whose mantra is "don't be evil," is censoring its search results.
> >
> > According to Google's Web site, the query suggestions that appear as
> > you type are drawn from from searches you've done (if you're logged
> > in), searches done by users all over the world, sites in the search
> > index and ads in Google's network.
> >
> > The company also explains that "We try to filter out suggestions that
> > include pornographic terms, dirty words, and hate and violence terms.
> > If you encounter a term that should not be suggested, please let us
> > know by posting in the Google Web Search Help Forum."
> >
> > Perhaps the returned results are so inappropriate that all results
> > have simply been turned off, an option some Internet users label
> > 'cowardly.' After all, search for hot-button items such as
> > "scientology is" or "Muhammad is" and the results are even more
> > offensive.
> >
> > A Google spokesman explained that the weird absence of results is
> > just a software problem: "This is in fact a bug and we're working to
> > fix it as quickly as we can." But the company would not respond to
> > requests for clarification.
> >
> > An intriguing corollary: Google offers search suggestions for future
> > tense queries as well. Ask "Christianity will" and Google suggests
> > "Christianity will end, it will disappear," and "Christianity will
> > end." Ask the same about Islam and Google notes that "Islam will
> > dominate the world" and "Islam will destroy Europe."
> >
> > Editor's Note: Coming to the dance late still puts you at the dance,
> > we suppose. That this publication was censored by Google in 2006 and
> > FOX is just getting around to reporting on their censorship
> > practices, well, at least they got around to it...
> >
> > More at:http://www.newmediajournal.us/the_fifth_column/01102010.htm
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti

> http://www.faithfreedom.org
> http://www.islam-watch.org
> http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
> http://jihadwatch.org

Dhanyavaad for thr above URLs. Here's another:

Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT (Was: Re: Answering Just
Me...)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/169772d6cf31a8bf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 11 2010 2:54 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b4ba632$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:_Cc2n.459$pv.441@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Cleaning up the post a bit
>
> [BLANK SPACE]

I see that Arindam's post is as devoid of any matter as is his character of honesty.

Now please a previous post about pushpak vimaan:

PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT

Forwarded message from durgashakti1...@yahoo.com

[ Subject: pushpak vimaana
[ From: durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
[ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005

Rense.com

Ancient Indian Spacecraft
And Aircraft Technology

By The Hindu Staff Reporter
1-6-5

Tirupati -'India had a treasure trove of hitech warfare
technology that even the 'mighty West' does not possess.
The Brahmastra and Vimaan used in the pre-Mahabharat
period are nothing but the earlier versions of today's
nuclear weapons and spacecraft.'

It is this feeling that one would get after listening to
a lecture on 'High Technology in Ancient Sanskrit
Literature' by Mr. C. S. R. Prabhu, senior scientist,
NIC, Hyderabad, on Thursday as part of the three- day
Indo-Nepal Sanskrit Conference, currently underway at the
Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha here.

Mr. Prabhu, quoting extensively from ancient texts,
stressed that the pre-Mahabharat period was an age of
high technology, which was ignored in the Medieval period
due to reasons not known.

He quoted from the texts of a great scholar, Subbaraya
Sastry, who, in a state of yogic trance, is said to have
orally dictated the spacecraft technology in a period
somewhere between 1875 and 1919, which was recorded by
his disciples. The text, a copy of which is still in
Nepal's Royal Library, contained technical details on
assembling, fabricating and erecting a spacecraft, the
metals, semi-conductors, advanced alloys used and other
minute aeronautical information. Though quite difficult
to be believed on the face of it, the fact that this
technology did not exist anywhere in the world - not even
in America and Europe - in the mentioned period, makes it
hard for one to disbelieve.

Artwork by James Neff

The technical information given in Sastry's texts was as
minute, precise and clear, as if it were a 'Make your own
spacecraft' or a 'Spacecraft technology in 30 days'
except for the Sanskrit language used, which was very
much archaic and obsolete, Mr. Prabhu said. On a tip on
making an alloy, the text said 'Krishnaseesam Chanjanikam
Vajrathundam samamsathaha' from which the real meaning of
'Vajrathundam' (used in that context), could not be found
in any contemporary Sanskrit dictionary. ''After a great
amount of interaction with ayurvedic specialists and
Swamijis with intuitive interpretations, it turned out to
be the cactus plant,'' he said.

To further strengthen his claim, he said there were wall
paintings in some forts in Rajasthan depicting the use of
rockets in Mughal warfare and even by Tipu Sultan of
Mysore. Another interesting fact he gave was that the
spacecraft could become invisible on its own. The lead
alloy (Thamogarbha loha) used in making the body of the
spacecraft would absorb light around it in a photo
chemical reaction that would make it disappear.

On testing the Krishna seesa metal mentioned in the
formula in the laboratory of Birla Institute of Science,
Hyderabad, Mr. Prabhu found the metal absorbing 78 per
cent of laser light, which means, any other light could
be easily absorbed, giving ample proof that there existed
a technology to make things invisible. Also the use of an
alloy of copper, zinc and lead made the spacecraft's body
resist corrosion by 1000 times over that of the current
levels. Using Ararakamra material for the axle and wheels
had made it possible for taking 'U' turns and serpentine
movements.

An astonishing fact is that the Ararakamra metal was an
alloy of copper, zinc, lead and iron, the combination of
which is impossible, according to modern metallurgy.
Technically, the ''Young's modulus'' of this metal is
said to be higher than that of steel, making it stronger.
As the spacecraft had to be capable of resisting high
temperature, on re-entering our atmosphere from the outer
space, its body was made with a metal called 'Raja Loha'.
Its special feature was that apart from resisting heat,
it converted light from lightnings into energy. To
crosscheck all these details, there were no furnaces
available in Hyderabad to melt metals at a high
temperature of 2500 degrees celcius, Mr. Prabhu lamented.

Another hitch came into his research in the form of the
'energy' used. 'Though the texts explained that the
spacecraft was propelled by 'Sourasakthi', modern solar
technology does not generate so much power to drag a
rocket', he pointed out. Later he found out to his
bewilderment that it was a kind of 'nuclear power' that
was used in those days. 'The solar power, when coupled
with gamma rays produced nuclear energy that had the
power to propel a rocket', Mr. Prabhu observed.

He even spoke on 'Tripura Vimaan' that was used to travel
in space, water and on land, by using the metal 'Trinetra
loha'. Mr. Prabhu said he had submitted the model and
some more information on the 'super metal' to the Indian
Metal Society Conference and further claimed that the
advisor to the government on scientific affairs Dr. A. P.
J. Abdul Kalam too had asked him to bring the design of
the plane.

A committee which was appointed by Indian Institute of
Science to investigate into it, declared Sastry's texts
as 'fraud', but Mr. Prabhu reasons that the descriptions
mentioned in the ancient texts were perhaps too advanced
to believe, making the committee to hastily come to the
conclusion. He wanted a national level effort to prove
that the so called 'myths' were in fact, scientific
formulae on advanced technology. He said he had proposed
a project called 'Bharadwaja Institute of Vedic Science
and Technology', the objective of which was to derive,
decipher and reproduce advanced methodologies and
processes from Vedic and post-Vedic Sanskrit texts, for
which he sought government's support.

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