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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 25 2010 8:51 pm
From: Mirza Ghalib
On Jan 25, 11:22 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
> messagenews:20100121CrCgQLxVI2j50B7k21y9a54@FPmBF...
>
> > In article
>
> - Dr. Savita Singh
>
> ---------------------------------
> the above wonderfully summarizes mahatma gandhi. critics like mirza & co can
> never understand what an earth shattering thing this is.
Who is this Savita Singh?
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TOPIC: FAILED KERALA MODEL - SOME MYTH AND FACT - AN INSIDER VIEW *** Jai
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 5:22 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Failed Kerala model - some myth and fact - an insider view
Anirudh, Mumbai: May 30 2009
When we hear the name of Kerala, the God's own country, first
imagination come to our mind is the greenery scene with lots of
coconut trees and back water etc. But there is a bitter reality
inside Kerala. The problems are plenty. Everything not fine in
Kerala.
Nuisance and Annoyance of the Left parties especially CPI(M):
Frequent harthals, bandh and strike hit the normal day to day life in
Kerala. Kerala has many world record especially on Harthals, Bandh
front. The Life and property is under threat and frequent obstruction
of peoples movement. Like event management, special gangs are there
in every political parties especially CPI(M) to take advantage of
this harthals and Bandh.
After the growth of left parties, especially CPI(M) Political murder
between RSS and CPI(M) are regular scene. Political cadres using Bomb
to eliminate each other. In this whole episode, the main loosers are
'Hindus'. CPI(M)s and RSS cadres mainly belongs to Hindu community
and they are engaged 'war' with each other with their top leaderships
hidden agenda to eliminate Hindus. RSS & Left parties acting like
paper shredder to eliminate Hindus and minority communities are
overpowered.
This is the one state in the world the well organised headload union
workers adopted barbaric method like grabbing money without work. One
cannot do load and unload our material without the support of
headload workers. We have to pay even if we load and unload the
materials on our own or use our own men. Their charges are 10 times
more than the transportation cost. These union workers saying that it
is only their right to do this.
Agrarian crisis: Due to heavy increase in labor wages and laziness
among labors and increasing input cost, paddy and other cultivation
is in great crisis. Politicization and unionization of labor in
almost all sector is the great problem for the development of Kerala.
Most of them believing wages without work or more wages with less
work.
At local level, there is manpower crunch and efficient workers as
locals are lazy and most of them prefer white collar jobs. To load
and unload farm produce, the farmers have to depend upon the
unionized headload workers. The farmers compelled to cough up huge
amount for loading and unloading account to these section. Paddy
cultivation is reduced due to non-availability of workers and high
wages and militant trade unionism, farmers cannot change the
cultivation due to the dictate of state govt and political parties
like CPI(M).
CPI(M) is the party who don't want anyone to flourish and they are
engaged in most barbaric methods which never head in any part of the
world. When farmer try to change their cultivation from Paddy to
other produce, CPI(M) party members spoil the agriculture produce and
even put their flag on the land. Many goonda and jealous and lazy
people involved with CPI(M) and most of the time, they get protection
money from businessman, traders, landlord and other individuals. The
people who refuse to pay get attacked and by the CPIM cadre and
goonda elements and they are acting like a Taliban.
Crisis in Health Sector: The health sector completely collapsed in
the state run government hospital. Hospitals become a breeding ground
for spreading new and viral diseases and rapidly spreading.
Corruption and malpractices in medical and health sector reached
record high. Wrong and unwanted diagnosis, lab testing and
prescription of high valued medicine for small diseases are a regular
scene in Kerala.
High prices of all the drugs compare to rest of the states.
Government Hospitals become bacteria chambers and spreading other
diseases. Frequent vital fever and flues spreading. The doctor
patient relation reached all time low and patients and their kin
mistrust doctors. Political interference, political, bureaucratic,
religious investment with high return and huge profit and commercial
exploitation made the health sector more vulnerable.
Access to affordable health services becomes a distant dream for the
common people in the state. There is no standardization of medical
services and lab testing centres and state govt. have no control over
it. Lab testing centres are mushrooming in every nook and corner and
no standardization of fees and result vary in different testing
centres.
Wrong diagnosis in both govt. and private run hospital are on the
rise. State run hospitals are ill equipped with handling crisis with
shortage of 'dedicated' staff, absenteeism, non-availability and
shortage of essential medicines are regular scene in almost govt. run
hospital and primary health centres. One side Kerala promoting
tourism, on the other side, importing new viral diseases from
unchecked foreign tourists. Once Kerala becomes a role model state
for Health care. For the last 10 years, the political and
bureaucratic corruption pushed the state into more backward region.
Crisis in Educational sector: The standard of education is
deteriorating due to politicization of education. In vernacular
medium, professional competency and lack of communication is a major
handicap and lag behind with other candidates from the state. Large
section of teachers lacks professional skills and expertise in
teaching even though they are highly educated. Unaided private
institutions more than 90% run by 2 minority communities nowadays run
schools and colleges like a commercial organisation, collecting huge
capitation fees, donation, high fees etc. They are so powerful to
challenge the govt. and have the money power to bypass any govt.
order.
The govt. of Kerala try to influence and impose their ideology to the
students by frequently changing syllabus in their favour. Left front
govt. try to leftisation of educational institution. When UDF under
Congress came to power, they try to minoritisation of all institution
in favour of Christian and Muslim community. This process is going
for last many decades. There is no neutral institution available.
There are two kinds of 'mallus' (Malayali people). One is very hard
working, successful in their profession, adjusting and progressive in
nature. From this section 90% of them are settled outside Kerala due
to their profession. The other section belongs to very lazy, jealousy
not stick to any profession or themselves declared as unemployed even
they have enough opportunities within Kerala roaming here and there
making body shows doing no work.
These section mostly engaged in political activities and want to earn
quick bugs. Political parties effectively using them as 'destroyers'
on frequent bandh and harthals to make loss of public and private
property and loot shops and other establishments, houses etc. Most of
the educated youth get registered with Govt. Employment Exchange
dreaming govt. jobs and they themselves declared as unemployed and
employing local jobs are available, they are not ready to do the job
due to inferiority complex. Other problem is that when people return/
visit to their native place from other state or abroad, they treat
other 'mallu' like outsider, look at them jealously and create
maximum nuisance.
Tourism: Due to rise in tourism, there is lots of bad effect like sex
tourism, drugs and flourishing of illegal activities. Kerala claiming
a cent percent literate state, but women cannot travel at night
alone. When women travel by bus, there is a nuisance and sometimes
get bad comments. There is a good opportunity for 'harthal and bandh
tourism' in Kerala and Adventure tourism -- The people coming to
state have to face lots of hurdles -- Bandh, harthals, bad behaviour
from local 'mouth watching' fellows, trade unions, police and other
anti social elements. The imagination from outside is very much
different from inside. You get faked by rickshawalla, taxiwalla,
locals people.
Public Distribution System: Kerala was one of the best state in
P.D.S. distribution. Now the Public Distribution System is in bad
shape due to increasing corruption and vested interest.
Strong Bus Lobbies and halting train services: Long distance bus
service operators always blocking allotting new train service. Most
of the Bus operators funded by Political and Bureaucratic lobbies.
The bus charges and rickshaw charges are record high compare to any
other state.
Militant trade unionism and lack of progress for industry, frequent
bandh, strike and harthals, high wages on labours, material and
services, dependency of other neighbouring state on essential
commodities, frequent political violence due to left parties
penetration, especially CPI(M) due to their barbaric ideology and
intolerance, jealous and go for violent method, health, educational,
agricultural, political and social crisis at all level, over power of
2 minority communities at all sector and isolation of majority
community, flow of wealth to minority communities with the support of
state, centre and (either left or right wing political parties),
outside support making communal disharmony and the secular character
of the state rapidly disappearing.
Left parties created a new 'feudal working class', who never believe
in hard work and more than 24 hours a day, they think their right
only and make the employer bankrupt. They are not honest in electoral
process and win most of the local election with money power and
muscle power sometime rigging and manipulating votes. Present sorrow
of the state people is the nuisance of the left parties. People of
the state have no choice now; either you choose a pick pocketer or a
burglar.
Pravasis (The people living outside state): Either the state or
central govt. doing nothing for the welfare of Pravasis employed and
staying in abroad. They are completely neglected, duped, robed and
living like a citizen class citizen due to apathy of the state. Govt.
of India and state getting huge amount of Forex and they are part and
parcel of the development of state and India as a whole. While their
basic needs completely neglected by protecting their labour and
fundamental right, exploitation of employers in abroad, duping visa
agents, failure to give necessary legal protection, economic help
etc. The problems are plenty.
MLAs and MPs failure in protecting the interest of people of the
state: Whichever party came to power at the centre, neglection of the
Kerala state and solving the problem of states people never ever in
their agenda. The long pending demand and continued neglection of
railway, inter state water dispute, failure of central and Supreme
Court's intervention against continued leftist violence in the state,
are some of the major unaddressed issues.
Corruption at all level: Red-tapism, mismanagement, wrong priorities
and corruption in government and even at private sector. There is a
huge demand and supply gap. Governance almost collapsed. Taxes and
duties are much more than any other state. Govt. want more and more
taxes without any work and adopted an extortionist method. Only
quarrel between political parties, allies and political faction is in
the news always.
People voted to power with thumping majority. Today government
becomes burden for the people of Kerala. Every time, 'dil mange
more'. Running govt. and meeting govt. expenses is much more than the
tax collection, without any welfare activities.
Before visiting the Kerala state a statutory warning should be issued
"Beware -- If you land in Kerala -- you can expect a Hartal, Bandh",
you can watch political demonstration, because it is the state of
Kerala".
What outside perspective is much different from insider's perspective
about the state of Kerala. The actual fact and imagination is much
different.
The people who visit the state must read this article.
More at:
http://anirudh2008.instablogs.com/entry/failed-kerala-model-some-myth-and-fact-an-insider-view/
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 11:53 am
From: "harmony"
i did not know things were that bad with kerala like this article says. and
i thought what i knew was bad enough. it is an eye opener. btw, the article
provides a good understanding of the die hard kerals on the net.
keral 3mc*2 miseducation does it.
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100126J94aa6CjO5gs2b2HN170PEQ@Yx9B0...
> Failed Kerala model - some myth and fact - an insider view
>
> Anirudh, Mumbai: May 30 2009
>
> When we hear the name of Kerala, the God's own country, first
> imagination come to our mind is the greenery scene with lots of
> coconut trees and back water etc. But there is a bitter reality
> inside Kerala. The problems are plenty. Everything not fine in
> Kerala.
>
> Nuisance and Annoyance of the Left parties especially CPI(M):
> Frequent harthals, bandh and strike hit the normal day to day life in
> Kerala. Kerala has many world record especially on Harthals, Bandh
> front. The Life and property is under threat and frequent obstruction
> of peoples movement. Like event management, special gangs are there
> in every political parties especially CPI(M) to take advantage of
> this harthals and Bandh.
>
> After the growth of left parties, especially CPI(M) Political murder
> between RSS and CPI(M) are regular scene. Political cadres using Bomb
> to eliminate each other. In this whole episode, the main loosers are
> 'Hindus'. CPI(M)s and RSS cadres mainly belongs to Hindu community
> and they are engaged 'war' with each other with their top leaderships
> hidden agenda to eliminate Hindus. RSS & Left parties acting like
> paper shredder to eliminate Hindus and minority communities are
> overpowered.
>
> This is the one state in the world the well organised headload union
> workers adopted barbaric method like grabbing money without work. One
> cannot do load and unload our material without the support of
> headload workers. We have to pay even if we load and unload the
> materials on our own or use our own men. Their charges are 10 times
> more than the transportation cost. These union workers saying that it
> is only their right to do this.
>
> Agrarian crisis: Due to heavy increase in labor wages and laziness
> among labors and increasing input cost, paddy and other cultivation
> is in great crisis. Politicization and unionization of labor in
> almost all sector is the great problem for the development of Kerala.
> Most of them believing wages without work or more wages with less
> work.
>
> At local level, there is manpower crunch and efficient workers as
> locals are lazy and most of them prefer white collar jobs. To load
> and unload farm produce, the farmers have to depend upon the
> unionized headload workers. The farmers compelled to cough up huge
> amount for loading and unloading account to these section. Paddy
> cultivation is reduced due to non-availability of workers and high
> wages and militant trade unionism, farmers cannot change the
> cultivation due to the dictate of state govt and political parties
> like CPI(M).
>
> CPI(M) is the party who don't want anyone to flourish and they are
> engaged in most barbaric methods which never head in any part of the
> world. When farmer try to change their cultivation from Paddy to
> other produce, CPI(M) party members spoil the agriculture produce and
> even put their flag on the land. Many goonda and jealous and lazy
> people involved with CPI(M) and most of the time, they get protection
> money from businessman, traders, landlord and other individuals. The
> people who refuse to pay get attacked and by the CPIM cadre and
> goonda elements and they are acting like a Taliban.
>
> Crisis in Health Sector: The health sector completely collapsed in
> the state run government hospital. Hospitals become a breeding ground
> for spreading new and viral diseases and rapidly spreading.
> Corruption and malpractices in medical and health sector reached
> record high. Wrong and unwanted diagnosis, lab testing and
> prescription of high valued medicine for small diseases are a regular
> scene in Kerala.
>
> High prices of all the drugs compare to rest of the states.
> Government Hospitals become bacteria chambers and spreading other
> diseases. Frequent vital fever and flues spreading. The doctor
> patient relation reached all time low and patients and their kin
> mistrust doctors. Political interference, political, bureaucratic,
> religious investment with high return and huge profit and commercial
> exploitation made the health sector more vulnerable.
>
> Access to affordable health services becomes a distant dream for the
> common people in the state. There is no standardization of medical
> services and lab testing centres and state govt. have no control over
> it. Lab testing centres are mushrooming in every nook and corner and
> no standardization of fees and result vary in different testing
> centres.
>
> Wrong diagnosis in both govt. and private run hospital are on the
> rise. State run hospitals are ill equipped with handling crisis with
> shortage of 'dedicated' staff, absenteeism, non-availability and
> shortage of essential medicines are regular scene in almost govt. run
> hospital and primary health centres. One side Kerala promoting
> tourism, on the other side, importing new viral diseases from
> unchecked foreign tourists. Once Kerala becomes a role model state
> for Health care. For the last 10 years, the political and
> bureaucratic corruption pushed the state into more backward region.
>
> Crisis in Educational sector: The standard of education is
> deteriorating due to politicization of education. In vernacular
> medium, professional competency and lack of communication is a major
> handicap and lag behind with other candidates from the state. Large
> section of teachers lacks professional skills and expertise in
> teaching even though they are highly educated. Unaided private
> institutions more than 90% run by 2 minority communities nowadays run
> schools and colleges like a commercial organisation, collecting huge
> capitation fees, donation, high fees etc. They are so powerful to
> challenge the govt. and have the money power to bypass any govt.
> order.
>
> The govt. of Kerala try to influence and impose their ideology to the
> students by frequently changing syllabus in their favour. Left front
> govt. try to leftisation of educational institution. When UDF under
> Congress came to power, they try to minoritisation of all institution
> in favour of Christian and Muslim community. This process is going
> for last many decades. There is no neutral institution available.
>
> There are two kinds of 'mallus' (Malayali people). One is very hard
> working, successful in their profession, adjusting and progressive in
> nature. From this section 90% of them are settled outside Kerala due
> to their profession. The other section belongs to very lazy, jealousy
> not stick to any profession or themselves declared as unemployed even
> they have enough opportunities within Kerala roaming here and there
> making body shows doing no work.
>
> These section mostly engaged in political activities and want to earn
> quick bugs. Political parties effectively using them as 'destroyers'
> on frequent bandh and harthals to make loss of public and private
> property and loot shops and other establishments, houses etc. Most of
> the educated youth get registered with Govt. Employment Exchange
> dreaming govt. jobs and they themselves declared as unemployed and
> employing local jobs are available, they are not ready to do the job
> due to inferiority complex. Other problem is that when people return/
> visit to their native place from other state or abroad, they treat
> other 'mallu' like outsider, look at them jealously and create
> maximum nuisance.
>
> Tourism: Due to rise in tourism, there is lots of bad effect like sex
> tourism, drugs and flourishing of illegal activities. Kerala claiming
> a cent percent literate state, but women cannot travel at night
> alone. When women travel by bus, there is a nuisance and sometimes
> get bad comments. There is a good opportunity for 'harthal and bandh
> tourism' in Kerala and Adventure tourism -- The people coming to
> state have to face lots of hurdles -- Bandh, harthals, bad behaviour
> from local 'mouth watching' fellows, trade unions, police and other
> anti social elements. The imagination from outside is very much
> different from inside. You get faked by rickshawalla, taxiwalla,
> locals people.
>
> Public Distribution System: Kerala was one of the best state in
> P.D.S. distribution. Now the Public Distribution System is in bad
> shape due to increasing corruption and vested interest.
>
> Strong Bus Lobbies and halting train services: Long distance bus
> service operators always blocking allotting new train service. Most
> of the Bus operators funded by Political and Bureaucratic lobbies.
> The bus charges and rickshaw charges are record high compare to any
> other state.
>
> Militant trade unionism and lack of progress for industry, frequent
> bandh, strike and harthals, high wages on labours, material and
> services, dependency of other neighbouring state on essential
> commodities, frequent political violence due to left parties
> penetration, especially CPI(M) due to their barbaric ideology and
> intolerance, jealous and go for violent method, health, educational,
> agricultural, political and social crisis at all level, over power of
> 2 minority communities at all sector and isolation of majority
> community, flow of wealth to minority communities with the support of
> state, centre and (either left or right wing political parties),
> outside support making communal disharmony and the secular character
> of the state rapidly disappearing.
>
> Left parties created a new 'feudal working class', who never believe
> in hard work and more than 24 hours a day, they think their right
> only and make the employer bankrupt. They are not honest in electoral
> process and win most of the local election with money power and
> muscle power sometime rigging and manipulating votes. Present sorrow
> of the state people is the nuisance of the left parties. People of
> the state have no choice now; either you choose a pick pocketer or a
> burglar.
>
> Pravasis (The people living outside state): Either the state or
> central govt. doing nothing for the welfare of Pravasis employed and
> staying in abroad. They are completely neglected, duped, robed and
> living like a citizen class citizen due to apathy of the state. Govt.
> of India and state getting huge amount of Forex and they are part and
> parcel of the development of state and India as a whole. While their
> basic needs completely neglected by protecting their labour and
> fundamental right, exploitation of employers in abroad, duping visa
> agents, failure to give necessary legal protection, economic help
> etc. The problems are plenty.
>
> MLAs and MPs failure in protecting the interest of people of the
> state: Whichever party came to power at the centre, neglection of the
> Kerala state and solving the problem of states people never ever in
> their agenda. The long pending demand and continued neglection of
> railway, inter state water dispute, failure of central and Supreme
> Court's intervention against continued leftist violence in the state,
> are some of the major unaddressed issues.
>
> Corruption at all level: Red-tapism, mismanagement, wrong priorities
> and corruption in government and even at private sector. There is a
> huge demand and supply gap. Governance almost collapsed. Taxes and
> duties are much more than any other state. Govt. want more and more
> taxes without any work and adopted an extortionist method. Only
> quarrel between political parties, allies and political faction is in
> the news always.
>
> People voted to power with thumping majority. Today government
> becomes burden for the people of Kerala. Every time, 'dil mange
> more'. Running govt. and meeting govt. expenses is much more than the
> tax collection, without any welfare activities.
>
> Before visiting the Kerala state a statutory warning should be issued
> "Beware -- If you land in Kerala -- you can expect a Hartal, Bandh",
> you can watch political demonstration, because it is the state of
> Kerala".
>
> What outside perspective is much different from insider's perspective
> about the state of Kerala. The actual fact and imagination is much
> different.
>
> The people who visit the state must read this article.
>
> More at:
> http://anirudh2008.instablogs.com/entry/failed-kerala-model-some-myth-and-fact-an-insider-view/
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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> educational
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> not
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Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 1:56 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
True Hindus can help Kerala.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
In article <4b5f4858$0$12432$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> i did not know things were that bad with kerala like this article says. and
> i thought what i knew was bad enough. it is an eye opener. btw, the article
> provides a good understanding of the die hard kerals on the net.
>
> keral 3mc*2 miseducation does it.
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Failed Kerala model - some myth and fact - an insider view
> >
> > Anirudh, Mumbai: May 30 2009
> >
> > When we hear the name of Kerala, the God's own country, first
> > imagination come to our mind is the greenery scene with lots of
> > coconut trees and back water etc. But there is a bitter reality
> > inside Kerala. The problems are plenty. Everything not fine in
> > Kerala.
> >
> > Nuisance and Annoyance of the Left parties especially CPI(M):
> > Frequent harthals, bandh and strike hit the normal day to day life in
> > Kerala. Kerala has many world record especially on Harthals, Bandh
> > front. The Life and property is under threat and frequent obstruction
> > of peoples movement. Like event management, special gangs are there
> > in every political parties especially CPI(M) to take advantage of
> > this harthals and Bandh.
> >
> > After the growth of left parties, especially CPI(M) Political murder
> > between RSS and CPI(M) are regular scene. Political cadres using Bomb
> > to eliminate each other. In this whole episode, the main loosers are
> > 'Hindus'. CPI(M)s and RSS cadres mainly belongs to Hindu community
> > and they are engaged 'war' with each other with their top leaderships
> > hidden agenda to eliminate Hindus. RSS & Left parties acting like
> > paper shredder to eliminate Hindus and minority communities are
> > overpowered.
> >
> > This is the one state in the world the well organised headload union
> > workers adopted barbaric method like grabbing money without work. One
> > cannot do load and unload our material without the support of
> > headload workers. We have to pay even if we load and unload the
> > materials on our own or use our own men. Their charges are 10 times
> > more than the transportation cost. These union workers saying that it
> > is only their right to do this.
> >
> > Agrarian crisis: Due to heavy increase in labor wages and laziness
> > among labors and increasing input cost, paddy and other cultivation
> > is in great crisis. Politicization and unionization of labor in
> > almost all sector is the great problem for the development of Kerala.
> > Most of them believing wages without work or more wages with less
> > work.
> >
> > At local level, there is manpower crunch and efficient workers as
> > locals are lazy and most of them prefer white collar jobs. To load
> > and unload farm produce, the farmers have to depend upon the
> > unionized headload workers. The farmers compelled to cough up huge
> > amount for loading and unloading account to these section. Paddy
> > cultivation is reduced due to non-availability of workers and high
> > wages and militant trade unionism, farmers cannot change the
> > cultivation due to the dictate of state govt and political parties
> > like CPI(M).
> >
> > CPI(M) is the party who don't want anyone to flourish and they are
> > engaged in most barbaric methods which never head in any part of the
> > world. When farmer try to change their cultivation from Paddy to
> > other produce, CPI(M) party members spoil the agriculture produce and
> > even put their flag on the land. Many goonda and jealous and lazy
> > people involved with CPI(M) and most of the time, they get protection
> > money from businessman, traders, landlord and other individuals. The
> > people who refuse to pay get attacked and by the CPIM cadre and
> > goonda elements and they are acting like a Taliban.
> >
> > Crisis in Health Sector: The health sector completely collapsed in
> > the state run government hospital. Hospitals become a breeding ground
> > for spreading new and viral diseases and rapidly spreading.
> > Corruption and malpractices in medical and health sector reached
> > record high. Wrong and unwanted diagnosis, lab testing and
> > prescription of high valued medicine for small diseases are a regular
> > scene in Kerala.
> >
> > High prices of all the drugs compare to rest of the states.
> > Government Hospitals become bacteria chambers and spreading other
> > diseases. Frequent vital fever and flues spreading. The doctor
> > patient relation reached all time low and patients and their kin
> > mistrust doctors. Political interference, political, bureaucratic,
> > religious investment with high return and huge profit and commercial
> > exploitation made the health sector more vulnerable.
> >
> > Access to affordable health services becomes a distant dream for the
> > common people in the state. There is no standardization of medical
> > services and lab testing centres and state govt. have no control over
> > it. Lab testing centres are mushrooming in every nook and corner and
> > no standardization of fees and result vary in different testing
> > centres.
> >
> > Wrong diagnosis in both govt. and private run hospital are on the
> > rise. State run hospitals are ill equipped with handling crisis with
> > shortage of 'dedicated' staff, absenteeism, non-availability and
> > shortage of essential medicines are regular scene in almost govt. run
> > hospital and primary health centres. One side Kerala promoting
> > tourism, on the other side, importing new viral diseases from
> > unchecked foreign tourists. Once Kerala becomes a role model state
> > for Health care. For the last 10 years, the political and
> > bureaucratic corruption pushed the state into more backward region.
> >
> > Crisis in Educational sector: The standard of education is
> > deteriorating due to politicization of education. In vernacular
> > medium, professional competency and lack of communication is a major
> > handicap and lag behind with other candidates from the state. Large
> > section of teachers lacks professional skills and expertise in
> > teaching even though they are highly educated. Unaided private
> > institutions more than 90% run by 2 minority communities nowadays run
> > schools and colleges like a commercial organisation, collecting huge
> > capitation fees, donation, high fees etc. They are so powerful to
> > challenge the govt. and have the money power to bypass any govt.
> > order.
> >
> > The govt. of Kerala try to influence and impose their ideology to the
> > students by frequently changing syllabus in their favour. Left front
> > govt. try to leftisation of educational institution. When UDF under
> > Congress came to power, they try to minoritisation of all institution
> > in favour of Christian and Muslim community. This process is going
> > for last many decades. There is no neutral institution available.
> >
> > There are two kinds of 'mallus' (Malayali people). One is very hard
> > working, successful in their profession, adjusting and progressive in
> > nature. From this section 90% of them are settled outside Kerala due
> > to their profession. The other section belongs to very lazy, jealousy
> > not stick to any profession or themselves declared as unemployed even
> > they have enough opportunities within Kerala roaming here and there
> > making body shows doing no work.
> >
> > These section mostly engaged in political activities and want to earn
> > quick bugs. Political parties effectively using them as 'destroyers'
> > on frequent bandh and harthals to make loss of public and private
> > property and loot shops and other establishments, houses etc. Most of
> > the educated youth get registered with Govt. Employment Exchange
> > dreaming govt. jobs and they themselves declared as unemployed and
> > employing local jobs are available, they are not ready to do the job
> > due to inferiority complex. Other problem is that when people return/
> > visit to their native place from other state or abroad, they treat
> > other 'mallu' like outsider, look at them jealously and create
> > maximum nuisance.
> >
> > Tourism: Due to rise in tourism, there is lots of bad effect like sex
> > tourism, drugs and flourishing of illegal activities. Kerala claiming
> > a cent percent literate state, but women cannot travel at night
> > alone. When women travel by bus, there is a nuisance and sometimes
> > get bad comments. There is a good opportunity for 'harthal and bandh
> > tourism' in Kerala and Adventure tourism -- The people coming to
> > state have to face lots of hurdles -- Bandh, harthals, bad behaviour
> > from local 'mouth watching' fellows, trade unions, police and other
> > anti social elements. The imagination from outside is very much
> > different from inside. You get faked by rickshawalla, taxiwalla,
> > locals people.
> >
> > Public Distribution System: Kerala was one of the best state in
> > P.D.S. distribution. Now the Public Distribution System is in bad
> > shape due to increasing corruption and vested interest.
> >
> > Strong Bus Lobbies and halting train services: Long distance bus
> > service operators always blocking allotting new train service. Most
> > of the Bus operators funded by Political and Bureaucratic lobbies.
> > The bus charges and rickshaw charges are record high compare to any
> > other state.
> >
> > Militant trade unionism and lack of progress for industry, frequent
> > bandh, strike and harthals, high wages on labours, material and
> > services, dependency of other neighbouring state on essential
> > commodities, frequent political violence due to left parties
> > penetration, especially CPI(M) due to their barbaric ideology and
> > intolerance, jealous and go for violent method, health, educational,
> > agricultural, political and social crisis at all level, over power of
> > 2 minority communities at all sector and isolation of majority
> > community, flow of wealth to minority communities with the support of
> > state, centre and (either left or right wing political parties),
> > outside support making communal disharmony and the secular character
> > of the state rapidly disappearing.
> >
> > Left parties created a new 'feudal working class', who never believe
> > in hard work and more than 24 hours a day, they think their right
> > only and make the employer bankrupt. They are not honest in electoral
> > process and win most of the local election with money power and
> > muscle power sometime rigging and manipulating votes. Present sorrow
> > of the state people is the nuisance of the left parties. People of
> > the state have no choice now; either you choose a pick pocketer or a
> > burglar.
> >
> > Pravasis (The people living outside state): Either the state or
> > central govt. doing nothing for the welfare of Pravasis employed and
> > staying in abroad. They are completely neglected, duped, robed and
> > living like a citizen class citizen due to apathy of the state. Govt.
> > of India and state getting huge amount of Forex and they are part and
> > parcel of the development of state and India as a whole. While their
> > basic needs completely neglected by protecting their labour and
> > fundamental right, exploitation of employers in abroad, duping visa
> > agents, failure to give necessary legal protection, economic help
> > etc. The problems are plenty.
> >
> > MLAs and MPs failure in protecting the interest of people of the
> > state: Whichever party came to power at the centre, neglection of the
> > Kerala state and solving the problem of states people never ever in
> > their agenda. The long pending demand and continued neglection of
> > railway, inter state water dispute, failure of central and Supreme
> > Court's intervention against continued leftist violence in the state,
> > are some of the major unaddressed issues.
> >
> > Corruption at all level: Red-tapism, mismanagement, wrong priorities
> > and corruption in government and even at private sector. There is a
> > huge demand and supply gap. Governance almost collapsed. Taxes and
> > duties are much more than any other state. Govt. want more and more
> > taxes without any work and adopted an extortionist method. Only
> > quarrel between political parties, allies and political faction is in
> > the news always.
> >
> > People voted to power with thumping majority. Today government
> > becomes burden for the people of Kerala. Every time, 'dil mange
> > more'. Running govt. and meeting govt. expenses is much more than the
> > tax collection, without any welfare activities.
> >
> > Before visiting the Kerala state a statutory warning should be issued
> > "Beware -- If you land in Kerala -- you can expect a Hartal, Bandh",
> > you can watch political demonstration, because it is the state of
> > Kerala".
> >
> > What outside perspective is much different from insider's perspective
> > about the state of Kerala. The actual fact and imagination is much
> > different.
> >
> > The people who visit the state must read this article.
> >
> > More at:
> >
> http://anirudh2008.instablogs.com/entry/failed-kerala-model-some-myth-and-fac
> t-an-insider-view/
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 2:58 pm
From: "P. Rajah"
Jay Stevens Maharaj aka the jumpin' jackass jyotishithead aka the
abominable asstrolloger wrote:
> True Hindus can help Kerala.
...by holding signs that say "KEEP OUT JYOTISHITHEADS!".
Jyotishitheads and their terrorist followers cause all the problems in
Kerala.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 2:57 pm
From: "P. Rajah"
In Modi's Gujarat, Hitler is a textbook hero
Harit Mehta, TNN, 30 September 2004, 05:11am IST
AHMEDABAD: Gandhi is not so great, but Hitler is. Welcome to high school
education in Narendra Modi's Gujarat, where authors of social studies
textbooks published by the Gujarat State Board of School Textbooks have
found faults with the freedom movement and glorified Fascism and Nazism.
While a Class VIII student is taught 'negative aspects' of Gandhi's
non-cooperation movement, the Class X social studies textbook has
chapters on 'Hitler, the Supremo' and 'Internal Achievements of Nazism'.
[...]
"Hitler lent dignity and prestige to the German government within a
short time by establishing a
strong administrative set up. He created the vast state of Greater
Germany. He adopted the policy of opposition towards the Jewish people
and advocated the supremacy of the German race. He adopted a new
economic policy and brought prosperity to Germany."
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 5:53 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Tormented Legacy
Chandan Mitra says Jyoti Basu's mystique overpowered his myriad failures
The Pioneer
Sunday, January 24, 2010
India has always defied Shakespeare's famous observation in Julius
Caesar: "The good that men do are oft interred with their bones."
Here, cultural norms dictate silence about a dead person's faults, no
matter how glaring, while his achievements are showered with fulsome
praise, even if concocted and mythical. It was not surprising
therefore to be subjected to a barrage of purple prose extolling the
virtues of Red baron Jyoti Basu -- ranging from his contribution to
the Communist movement, to success in hanging on as Chief Minister of
West Bengal for 23 uninterrupted years and, finally, his allegedly
Spartan lifestyle. Much of what was said by way of tribute to the 95-
year-old Communist patriarch consisted of large doses of hyperbole
and retrospective imagination.
Jyoti Basu was an astute politician who skillfully crafted an image
of being an upright but aloof, unsmiling man, intimidating rather
than loving, stern and determined. In reality, he made no spectacular
contribution to ideology or governance. His critics rightly point to
his deliberate hands-off policy with regard to the party-backed trade
union movement which brought industry and commerce to its knees
during the '80s and '90s, drove talent and capital out of Bengal in
multitudes and virtually laid to waste what was one of India's
foremost States before CPI(M)'s untrammeled (and ongoing) reign of 33
years began in 1977.
As he looked on with benign indulgence, his party created a
frightening stranglehold on Government officials through the dreaded
Coordination Committee. Against all laws, the Committee became almost
a closed shop which forced everybody except all-India service
officials to join. So much so that even today, salaries at the West
Bengal Government headquarters at Writers' Building are disbursed in
cash: The Coordination Committee stonewalled incumbent Chief Minister
Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee's move to pay the staff by bank transfer. The
reason is not far to seek. On pay day, Committee apparatchiks move
from table to table in the head office of babudom to immediately
collect its monthly "levy". None dare refuse. This organisation
systematically spawned a non-work ethic whereby files that should get
routed in one day take at least one week. Recently, it threatened an
indefinite strike against the proposal to introduce a biometric
system to enforce timely office attendance. The Government bowed
again to its blackmail.
Finally, Spartan is an adjective that ill-adorns Basu's bhadralok
persona: He had suits tailored in the global capital of men's
fashion, Bond Street in London, and to his credit was not
hypocritical about his fondness for Scotch. A cultured offspring of a
distinguished family from erstwhile East Bengal, he studied law at
Inner Temple but barely practiced, preferring instead to internalise
tenets of Marxism-Leninism at the feet of 1930s Marxist ideologue
Rajani Palme Dutt whose seminal work India Today is still regarded as
the Indian Communists' Bible. Impatient with theoretical
propositions, Jyoti Basu was a devoted pragmatist, but unlike, say,
Deng Xiaoping, could never lead his party and remained only its
acceptable middle-class face.
However, this critique still begs the question as to what was it that
enabled him to become India's longest-serving Chief Minister (Gegong
Apang of Arunachal Pradesh has since beaten his record) and die such
a widely venerated man? What, indeed, was the secret of Jyoti Basu's
charisma? This is probably one of the biggest mysteries of post-
Independence Indian politics. Basu was no public speaker of repute.
His speeches were staccato, devoid of both depth and humour,
consisting primarily of banalities, which surprisingly, were lapped
up by adoring crowds.
I distinctly remember his address at a huge CPM rally at Kolkata's
Brigade Parade Grounds in 1984 when a shell-shocked nation was trying
to come to grips with Indira Gandhi's assassination and looking to
her son for succour. "Ei je Rajiv Gandhi. Uni ekhaney eshechhen,
bhashon dichhen chari dikey. Onar maa ke aami chintaam. Uni to
Emergency lagiye amader jailey purey diyechhilen. Ore chhele ki
kortey parbey? Oder bishshas korben na. (This fellow Rajiv Gandhi. He
has come here and is making speeches everywhere. I used to know his
mother. She imposed Emergency and put us behind bars. So, what can
her son achieve? Don't trust them)". The crowds broke into
spontaneous applause and cries of "Jyoti Basu Lal Salaam" rent the
air. The rest of his long speech consisted of similar inane,
simplistic comments. Anyone else would have tested a crowd's patience
with a string of statements like this. But such was his mass appeal
that coming from Basu, even such trivial remarks evoked huge
response.
He was also given to cutting but insensitive responses to media
queries on many occasions. When the gruesome Bantala incident
happened (a woman was dragged out of a vehicle and gangraped by CPM
goons in a Kolkata suburb in full view of assembled people), he
cursorily dismissed it by saying "E shob toh hoeyi thakey (Such
things keep happening)". There was hardly a murmur of protest against
the Chief Minister's shocking comment. Jyoti Basu was seen as above
such mundane administrative or police lapses.
Thus the CPM got away with the Bijon Setu massacre of 17 Ananda
Margis, burnt alive on a flyover in Kolkata, Barddhaman's Sai Bari
killings and a host of other grisly crimes. Each time, the police and
administration, thoroughly infiltrated into by party cadre, looked
the other way and even colluded with the murderers. At Marichjhampi,
an island in the Ganga delta of Sundarbans, the police opened
indiscriminate fire on hapless, tormented East Pakistan refugees,
killing an unknown number of people, estimated by locals to run into
hundreds. They had forcibly settled on the sparsely inhabited island
after being tossed around among States that broke all promises made
to them. An inactive and partially indoctrinated media virtually
blacked out the horrifying tale of Bengal's Gulag. Basu never
believed he owed an explanation for anything.
Maybe it was his aloofness and stentorian attitude that helped weave
a web of charisma around him. He was inaccessible to everyone -- from
party cadre to the media and even the "sarbohara" (proletariat) in
whose name he ruled. Accountability was a word that didn't exist in
his dictionary although he was feted for being a moderate and firm
believer in parliamentary democracy in contrast to hard-line party
leaders like BT Ranadive who propagated armed insurrection as the
road to power.
He was celebrated by Kolkata's high society for being "People like
us" (PLU), who talked no politics when he breezed into parties and
interacted with self-serving, fawning industrial barons who were in
complete awe of his personality. I recall that at a dinner hosted by
La Martiniere for Boys' to release a volume authored by me on the
school's sesqui-centennial in 1986, Basu walked in sporting his
legendary rapid gait, became the cynosure instantly, happily heard
praises lavished upon him by the city's Who's Who, barely spoke as he
consumed two drinks and left the venue in the same brisk manner after
just about 20 minutes. It was in his time that a clutch of Marwari
land sharks grabbed prize property in and around Kolkata for real
estate purposes and in exchange liberally funded a party that had
once vowed to eliminate the bourgeoisie.
Probably another factor adding to Basu's charisma was that he was the
only man of consequence in a party with whom people could identify.
Especially after organisation boss Pramod Dasgupta died, there was no
other leader of any stature in the party or Government. Stalwarts
like Harekrishna and Binoy Konar were too "rustic", while the younger
leaders were perceived as rowdy and uncouth. Till the early '90s the
CPM continued to spew venom against the affluent and this rhetoric
unnerved the urban upper strata. Although Basu rarely lifted a finger
to rectify the brazen wrongs committed by his party workers, the
middle class continued to live in the illusion that he was one leader
they could turn to for reassurance. And then there was fear. The CPM
had erected a merciless mechanism whereby its Local Committee
supplanted the police and administration. Even petty disputes
required the Local Committee's intervention and the message was loud
-- 'Come to us, not the police'.
On the back of Operation Barga, initiated during Basu's first stint
as Chief Minister (1977-82) -- which merely entailed implementation
of laws enacted by preceding Congress Governments -- his party
crafted a rigorous network in the countryside that was subsequently
institutionalised through the Panchayati Raj mechanism. From the
appointment of schoolteachers to contracts for rural road building
and compensation for flood damage, every minute detail of rural
governance was overseen by the party cadre. It is only in the '90s
that an opposition emerged for the first time in the shape of the
fire-breathing Mamata Banerjee who has since successfully outflanked
the CPM from the Left. As the CPM merrily went about demolishing the
existing State apparatus, permitting policemen to form a trade union
and reducing even the District Magistrate to a harried rubber-stamp,
Jyoti Basu presided over this edifice unconcerned about continuing in
office since elections were perfectly stage-managed starting with
doctored voters' lists. Cultivating a posture of being above it all,
Basu was content to be CPM's showpiece, cheerfully accepting
accolades from all.
Over the years he also got mesmerised by the propaganda around him
that created a personality cult. His friend and one-time Finance
Minister of the State, Ashok Mitra, once described Basu as Bengal's
greatest contemporary leader, at par with Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose!
All such praise may have convinced Basu that he was the ideal man to
be Prime Minister when a motley Opposition combine in Delhi offered
it to him in the aftermath of PV Narasimha Rao's defeat in the 1996
Lok Sabha poll. Basu never forgave party hardliners for scuttling his
job. In a rare instance of defiance, he famously described the
Politburo's decision as a "historic blunder". But given his
disastrous track record as Chief Minister, his detractors are
probably right in asserting that the bigger blunder would have been
to install him at Race Course Road.
A short-tempered man, Basu never took criticism kindly. Once, as he
passed by a lobby in Writers' Building that had been refashioned into
a Media waiting room, he was aghast to find a few hundred clerks
enthusiastically watching the telecast of a cricket match. For once,
the Chief Minister's proverbial authority collapsed. "E shob ki
hochchhey? Choloon nijer jaygay kiye kaaj koroon shokoley (What is
going on? Come on, get back to your own places and start working)',
he sternly ordered. His very own staff, hand-reared by his own party
into anti-work culture derisively chanted "Jaan-jaan moshai apni bari
jaan" (You please carry on and go home) followed by "Jyoti Basu
Murdabad" in response to his admonition. An aghast Basu quickly
climbed down the stairs and exited, sparing himself further
embarrassment. Next day all TV sets at Writers' Building were removed
and the Media Corner permanently sealed. Livid with the media's new-
found aggression in the '90s, Basu frequently exhorted people to stop
reading "bourgeois newspapers" (naming them with varied epithets),
and subscribe to the party's own daily Ganashakti instead. Although
the cadre dutifully bought copies of the mouthpiece they continued to
carefully read the spicier "bourgeois" alternatives, much to Basu's
eternal frustration.
In the final analysis, it must be admitted that Jyoti Basu remains an
everlasting enigma. He was probably at the right place at the right
time for Bengalis who were ready to clutch at straws to relive their
dreams that progressively slid away through the '60s and '70s. Tired
with sectarian violence, Naxalite depredations and Congress counter-
terror, in cahoots with the police between 1972 and 1977, the average
Bengali wanted respite. Above all they wanted peace, even if it was
the peace of a graveyard. Jyoti Basu ensured Bengal got just that.
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Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: A REPUBLIC AT ODDS WITH ITSELF
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 1:15 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from Murli
A republic at odds with itself
By Virendra Parekh
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
You cannot remain young for ever, it is said, but you can remain
immature throughout your life. As the Indian republic turns 60, it
looks like a tired old man suffering from self-forgetfulness, who has
advanced in age but not grown in wisdom.
Each passing day brings fresh evidence of the state's inability to
meet even basic expectations of citizens. We expect it at least to
defend our borders, protect us from violence, protect environment
from degradation, punish wrongdoers and provide us with roads, water
and power. What we get is an apologetic response to Chinese
incursions in Ladakh and Arunachal, spread of Naxalite violence,
pollution of Ganga, parole for Manu Sharma, and numerous instances of
road rage, water scarcity and power cuts. These are not mundane
failures in providing basic services; they give us an insight into
the real nature of the Indian state.
The first thing that strikes us about the Indian state is its
lopsided nature. It is soft to those who merit harsh treatment --
terrorists, proven criminals, tax dodgers, corrupt officials and
leaders, irresponsible trade unions etc; it is harsh on those who
deserve compassion -- the poor, the unorganized, the weak. So it
inspires fear and mistrust among those whom it is supposed to help
and serve, while it is not taken seriously by those who ought to fear
it. It is highly active in areas which it should not have entered in
the first place, while blissfully neglecting the tasks which it alone
can perform. Its patronage is largely enjoyed by those who least
deserve it, even as its burden is borne by those who are least
capable to do so. In short, there is too much of government but too
little of governance.
A striking feature of the Indian state over the decades has been the
divergence between the objectives and the consequences of its
policies. A poor country which needed to grow fast chose to follow
economic policies which stultified its growth. A policy of positive
discrimination which was supposed to put an end to backwardness
created a powerful vested interest in backwardness. A temporary
provision for integrating Jammu & Kashmir into India has become a
seemingly permanent instrument for preventing its full integration.
But the biggest failure of independent India is not economic (loss of
growth opportunities) or military (loss of territory to Pakistan and
China) but cultural and ideological. The State created by the
Constitution has no relation with or respect for age-old civilization
of the country. It has done nothing to end the cultural stalemate
plaguing us for centuries.
It is no secret that the overall structure and several provisions of
the Indian Constitution were borrowed from the Government of India
Act 1935. Like British rulers, the Indian state looks upon India as a
vast conglomeration of castes, communities, religions, languages and
races and seeks to mould them into a modern nation by inculcating
western values. This repudiates the deeper fundamental unity of India
rooted in Hindu civilization. According to this view, India is still
a nation in the making. This separates it from Indianness.
The British government claimed to be a neutral arbiter in the Hindu-
Muslim conflict (which it was not), but overtly promoted western
institutions and concepts. The Indian state after Independence, too,
sought to replicate western institutions and values, first in the
name of modernisation, and now in the name of globalisation. The
resultant political order is characterized not so much by appeasement
of Muslims as by its rootlessness, alienness and its contempt for the
country's cultural past.
The un-Indian character of the Indian state is defended in the name
of secularism, which alone, we are told, can ensure communal harmony
and preserve India's unity and integrity. Numerous thinkers have
debunked these claims by pointing out the perverse, anti-national and
subversive nature of what passes in India for secularism.
As late Ram Swarup pointed out, in the West secularism was creative;
in India, it is imitative. In the West, it was directed against the
clergy and tyrannical rulers, and had, therefore, a liberating role.
Here it is directed against the Hindus who are victims of two
successive imperialisms stretching over a millennium. In the West, it
opposed the church which claimed to be the sole custodian of absolute
Truth, which gave definitive answers to all questions and punished
any dissent. In India, it is directed against Hinduism which never
made such claims, laid down no dogmas, punished no dissent and which
fully accepted the role of reason in both spiritual and secular
matters. In practice, it has been a smokescreen for every anti-Hindu
totalitarian ideology -- Islam, Christianity, Communism -- to pursue
its designs on Hindu society.
The truth is that all attempts to divorce Indian nationalism from
Hindu civilization have failed. If we take out the Hindu element from
Indian society, history and culture, it will no longer remain Indian.
History shows that every part of India where Hindu civilization was
eclipsed and Hindus reduced to a minority, has eventually seceded
from India. Every separatist movement in the last hundred years
(Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Dravid, Communist or tribal) has been anti-
Hindu in character. In contrast, there is not a single leader,
organisation or movement that called itself Hindu and yet was
secessionist. Hindus cannot secede from India because they constitute
India. It is they who have imparted Indianness to India. No other
group can claim this for itself.
Secularism was the westernised Hindus' response to anti-Hindu
separatism and animus. They sought to deflect the attack by disowning
Hinduism. Secularists thought and still think that by de-Hinduising
the polity they would be able to neutralise Islam also. It has not
worked. Hindus may cry hoarse that they are secular, but for their
enemies they are still too Hindu to be left in peace.
In fact, perverse secularism has confused the intellect, clouded the
vision and paralysed the will of the Indian state to grave challenges
such as overt secessionism, infiltration, Islamic separatism, and
even terrorism. Club these political and ideological failures with
secular failures in the realm of governance and foreign policy, and
the picture is complete.
Since we tend to expect a lot from the state, we have allowed it to
assume very wide-ranging powers. Today we have a state which is all-
pervasive but weak, corrupt and inefficient and lacks a clear set of
priorities. Instead we need a smaller, less intrusive but strong
state, with a clear set of priorities. It would draw inspiration from
Kautiliya Arthasastra, Mahabharata and such treatises, rather than
junk ideologies and think tanks of the West.
Such a state would never allow the country's borders to shrink at any
cost, would curb internal violence with an iron hand to regain its
monopoly of use of force, and would carry out police, judicial and
administrative reforms to provide speedy justice at affordable cost
to the people. It would use public resources for creating public
goods (environment protection, public health, primary education,
sound money, basic infrastructure etc.) which cannot be left to the
market mechanism. It will protect the right to property and enforce
contracts. Remember, farmers in Nandigram or tribals in Orissa did
not ask for jobs or sarkari welfare schemes, but the right to retain
what they possessed. Its economic policies will be aimed at
encouraging and facilitating growth rather than controlling it.
Above all, such a state would be rooted firmly in the civilisational
ethos of the country. It would regard India as the cradle of an
ancient civilization, which the Indian state is expected to protect
and nourish. It would recognise the reality that after the secession
of the Muslim component of the state (provinces, bureaucracy, police
and army) what remained was Hindu Rashtra. This recognition would
mean an assurance to the Hindus that they have finally come into
their own, that Indian nationalism is rooted in Hinduism, and that
the State would protect Hindu society and culture against predatory
creeds.
Secularist intelligentsia has spent six decades telling Hindus that
this is not their state, although they may be manning and funding it
by far. The Hindu response is visible in their indifference to all
the values espoused by the State, including composite culture and
secular (i.e. non-Hindu) nationalism. The loss of national character
in independent India has a lot to do with that. It also explains why
Indians are respected abroad, but India is not.
The author is Executive Editor, Corporate India, and lives in Mumbai
End of forwarded article from Murli
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 1:34 pm
From: "harmony"
this one is a keeper.
thanks maharishi virendra parekh ji.
as rishi of the old time said you can never give it all your away and be
poor enough to help a poor, you can't get sick enough to cure the sick, you
can never get secular enough to de-mummudize or de-kirastanize or
de-communisalize the 3m.
thanks again for a fantastic view.
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100126U14Cqa45zc3Vdy9ZDLgl3dE@SX7yW...
> Forwarded message from Murli
>
> A republic at odds with itself
>
> By Virendra Parekh
> Tuesday, January 26, 2010
>
> You cannot remain young for ever, it is said, but you can remain
> immature throughout your life. As the Indian republic turns 60, it
> looks like a tired old man suffering from self-forgetfulness, who has
> advanced in age but not grown in wisdom.
>
> Each passing day brings fresh evidence of the state's inability to
> meet even basic expectations of citizens. We expect it at least to
> defend our borders, protect us from violence, protect environment
> from degradation, punish wrongdoers and provide us with roads, water
> and power. What we get is an apologetic response to Chinese
> incursions in Ladakh and Arunachal, spread of Naxalite violence,
> pollution of Ganga, parole for Manu Sharma, and numerous instances of
> road rage, water scarcity and power cuts. These are not mundane
> failures in providing basic services; they give us an insight into
> the real nature of the Indian state.
>
> The first thing that strikes us about the Indian state is its
> lopsided nature. It is soft to those who merit harsh treatment --
> terrorists, proven criminals, tax dodgers, corrupt officials and
> leaders, irresponsible trade unions etc; it is harsh on those who
> deserve compassion -- the poor, the unorganized, the weak. So it
> inspires fear and mistrust among those whom it is supposed to help
> and serve, while it is not taken seriously by those who ought to fear
> it. It is highly active in areas which it should not have entered in
> the first place, while blissfully neglecting the tasks which it alone
> can perform. Its patronage is largely enjoyed by those who least
> deserve it, even as its burden is borne by those who are least
> capable to do so. In short, there is too much of government but too
> little of governance.
>
> A striking feature of the Indian state over the decades has been the
> divergence between the objectives and the consequences of its
> policies. A poor country which needed to grow fast chose to follow
> economic policies which stultified its growth. A policy of positive
> discrimination which was supposed to put an end to backwardness
> created a powerful vested interest in backwardness. A temporary
> provision for integrating Jammu & Kashmir into India has become a
> seemingly permanent instrument for preventing its full integration.
>
> But the biggest failure of independent India is not economic (loss of
> growth opportunities) or military (loss of territory to Pakistan and
> China) but cultural and ideological. The State created by the
> Constitution has no relation with or respect for age-old civilization
> of the country. It has done nothing to end the cultural stalemate
> plaguing us for centuries.
>
> It is no secret that the overall structure and several provisions of
> the Indian Constitution were borrowed from the Government of India
> Act 1935. Like British rulers, the Indian state looks upon India as a
> vast conglomeration of castes, communities, religions, languages and
> races and seeks to mould them into a modern nation by inculcating
> western values. This repudiates the deeper fundamental unity of India
> rooted in Hindu civilization. According to this view, India is still
> a nation in the making. This separates it from Indianness.
>
> The British government claimed to be a neutral arbiter in the Hindu-
> Muslim conflict (which it was not), but overtly promoted western
> institutions and concepts. The Indian state after Independence, too,
> sought to replicate western institutions and values, first in the
> name of modernisation, and now in the name of globalisation. The
> resultant political order is characterized not so much by appeasement
> of Muslims as by its rootlessness, alienness and its contempt for the
> country's cultural past.
>
> The un-Indian character of the Indian state is defended in the name
> of secularism, which alone, we are told, can ensure communal harmony
> and preserve India's unity and integrity. Numerous thinkers have
> debunked these claims by pointing out the perverse, anti-national and
> subversive nature of what passes in India for secularism.
>
> As late Ram Swarup pointed out, in the West secularism was creative;
> in India, it is imitative. In the West, it was directed against the
> clergy and tyrannical rulers, and had, therefore, a liberating role.
> Here it is directed against the Hindus who are victims of two
> successive imperialisms stretching over a millennium. In the West, it
> opposed the church which claimed to be the sole custodian of absolute
> Truth, which gave definitive answers to all questions and punished
> any dissent. In India, it is directed against Hinduism which never
> made such claims, laid down no dogmas, punished no dissent and which
> fully accepted the role of reason in both spiritual and secular
> matters. In practice, it has been a smokescreen for every anti-Hindu
> totalitarian ideology -- Islam, Christianity, Communism -- to pursue
> its designs on Hindu society.
>
> The truth is that all attempts to divorce Indian nationalism from
> Hindu civilization have failed. If we take out the Hindu element from
> Indian society, history and culture, it will no longer remain Indian.
>
> History shows that every part of India where Hindu civilization was
> eclipsed and Hindus reduced to a minority, has eventually seceded
> from India. Every separatist movement in the last hundred years
> (Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Dravid, Communist or tribal) has been anti-
> Hindu in character. In contrast, there is not a single leader,
> organisation or movement that called itself Hindu and yet was
> secessionist. Hindus cannot secede from India because they constitute
> India. It is they who have imparted Indianness to India. No other
> group can claim this for itself.
>
> Secularism was the westernised Hindus' response to anti-Hindu
> separatism and animus. They sought to deflect the attack by disowning
> Hinduism. Secularists thought and still think that by de-Hinduising
> the polity they would be able to neutralise Islam also. It has not
> worked. Hindus may cry hoarse that they are secular, but for their
> enemies they are still too Hindu to be left in peace.
>
> In fact, perverse secularism has confused the intellect, clouded the
> vision and paralysed the will of the Indian state to grave challenges
> such as overt secessionism, infiltration, Islamic separatism, and
> even terrorism. Club these political and ideological failures with
> secular failures in the realm of governance and foreign policy, and
> the picture is complete.
>
> Since we tend to expect a lot from the state, we have allowed it to
> assume very wide-ranging powers. Today we have a state which is all-
> pervasive but weak, corrupt and inefficient and lacks a clear set of
> priorities. Instead we need a smaller, less intrusive but strong
> state, with a clear set of priorities. It would draw inspiration from
> Kautiliya Arthasastra, Mahabharata and such treatises, rather than
> junk ideologies and think tanks of the West.
>
> Such a state would never allow the country's borders to shrink at any
> cost, would curb internal violence with an iron hand to regain its
> monopoly of use of force, and would carry out police, judicial and
> administrative reforms to provide speedy justice at affordable cost
> to the people. It would use public resources for creating public
> goods (environment protection, public health, primary education,
> sound money, basic infrastructure etc.) which cannot be left to the
> market mechanism. It will protect the right to property and enforce
> contracts. Remember, farmers in Nandigram or tribals in Orissa did
> not ask for jobs or sarkari welfare schemes, but the right to retain
> what they possessed. Its economic policies will be aimed at
> encouraging and facilitating growth rather than controlling it.
>
> Above all, such a state would be rooted firmly in the civilisational
> ethos of the country. It would regard India as the cradle of an
> ancient civilization, which the Indian state is expected to protect
> and nourish. It would recognise the reality that after the secession
> of the Muslim component of the state (provinces, bureaucracy, police
> and army) what remained was Hindu Rashtra. This recognition would
> mean an assurance to the Hindus that they have finally come into
> their own, that Indian nationalism is rooted in Hinduism, and that
> the State would protect Hindu society and culture against predatory
> creeds.
>
> Secularist intelligentsia has spent six decades telling Hindus that
> this is not their state, although they may be manning and funding it
> by far. The Hindu response is visible in their indifference to all
> the values espoused by the State, including composite culture and
> secular (i.e. non-Hindu) nationalism. The loss of national character
> in independent India has a lot to do with that. It also explains why
> Indians are respected abroad, but India is not.
>
> The author is Executive Editor, Corporate India, and lives in Mumbai
>
> End of forwarded article from Murli
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> educational
> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> not
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 2:01 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
We Hindus need to save Bharat, that is Hindusthaan.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
In article <4b5f5fe1$0$12464$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> this one is a keeper.
> thanks maharishi virendra parekh ji.
> as rishi of the old time said you can never give it all your away and be
> poor enough to help a poor, you can't get sick enough to cure the sick, you
> can never get secular enough to de-mummudize or de-kirastanize or
> de-communisalize the 3m.
>
> thanks again for a fantastic view.
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Forwarded message from Murli
> >
> > A republic at odds with itself
> >
> > By Virendra Parekh
> > Tuesday, January 26, 2010
> >
> > You cannot remain young for ever, it is said, but you can remain
> > immature throughout your life. As the Indian republic turns 60, it
> > looks like a tired old man suffering from self-forgetfulness, who has
> > advanced in age but not grown in wisdom.
> >
> > Each passing day brings fresh evidence of the state's inability to
> > meet even basic expectations of citizens. We expect it at least to
> > defend our borders, protect us from violence, protect environment
> > from degradation, punish wrongdoers and provide us with roads, water
> > and power. What we get is an apologetic response to Chinese
> > incursions in Ladakh and Arunachal, spread of Naxalite violence,
> > pollution of Ganga, parole for Manu Sharma, and numerous instances of
> > road rage, water scarcity and power cuts. These are not mundane
> > failures in providing basic services; they give us an insight into
> > the real nature of the Indian state.
> >
> > The first thing that strikes us about the Indian state is its
> > lopsided nature. It is soft to those who merit harsh treatment --
> > terrorists, proven criminals, tax dodgers, corrupt officials and
> > leaders, irresponsible trade unions etc; it is harsh on those who
> > deserve compassion -- the poor, the unorganized, the weak. So it
> > inspires fear and mistrust among those whom it is supposed to help
> > and serve, while it is not taken seriously by those who ought to fear
> > it. It is highly active in areas which it should not have entered in
> > the first place, while blissfully neglecting the tasks which it alone
> > can perform. Its patronage is largely enjoyed by those who least
> > deserve it, even as its burden is borne by those who are least
> > capable to do so. In short, there is too much of government but too
> > little of governance.
> >
> > A striking feature of the Indian state over the decades has been the
> > divergence between the objectives and the consequences of its
> > policies. A poor country which needed to grow fast chose to follow
> > economic policies which stultified its growth. A policy of positive
> > discrimination which was supposed to put an end to backwardness
> > created a powerful vested interest in backwardness. A temporary
> > provision for integrating Jammu & Kashmir into India has become a
> > seemingly permanent instrument for preventing its full integration.
> >
> > But the biggest failure of independent India is not economic (loss of
> > growth opportunities) or military (loss of territory to Pakistan and
> > China) but cultural and ideological. The State created by the
> > Constitution has no relation with or respect for age-old civilization
> > of the country. It has done nothing to end the cultural stalemate
> > plaguing us for centuries.
> >
> > It is no secret that the overall structure and several provisions of
> > the Indian Constitution were borrowed from the Government of India
> > Act 1935. Like British rulers, the Indian state looks upon India as a
> > vast conglomeration of castes, communities, religions, languages and
> > races and seeks to mould them into a modern nation by inculcating
> > western values. This repudiates the deeper fundamental unity of India
> > rooted in Hindu civilization. According to this view, India is still
> > a nation in the making. This separates it from Indianness.
> >
> > The British government claimed to be a neutral arbiter in the Hindu-
> > Muslim conflict (which it was not), but overtly promoted western
> > institutions and concepts. The Indian state after Independence, too,
> > sought to replicate western institutions and values, first in the
> > name of modernisation, and now in the name of globalisation. The
> > resultant political order is characterized not so much by appeasement
> > of Muslims as by its rootlessness, alienness and its contempt for the
> > country's cultural past.
> >
> > The un-Indian character of the Indian state is defended in the name
> > of secularism, which alone, we are told, can ensure communal harmony
> > and preserve India's unity and integrity. Numerous thinkers have
> > debunked these claims by pointing out the perverse, anti-national and
> > subversive nature of what passes in India for secularism.
> >
> > As late Ram Swarup pointed out, in the West secularism was creative;
> > in India, it is imitative. In the West, it was directed against the
> > clergy and tyrannical rulers, and had, therefore, a liberating role.
> > Here it is directed against the Hindus who are victims of two
> > successive imperialisms stretching over a millennium. In the West, it
> > opposed the church which claimed to be the sole custodian of absolute
> > Truth, which gave definitive answers to all questions and punished
> > any dissent. In India, it is directed against Hinduism which never
> > made such claims, laid down no dogmas, punished no dissent and which
> > fully accepted the role of reason in both spiritual and secular
> > matters. In practice, it has been a smokescreen for every anti-Hindu
> > totalitarian ideology -- Islam, Christianity, Communism -- to pursue
> > its designs on Hindu society.
> >
> > The truth is that all attempts to divorce Indian nationalism from
> > Hindu civilization have failed. If we take out the Hindu element from
> > Indian society, history and culture, it will no longer remain Indian.
> >
> > History shows that every part of India where Hindu civilization was
> > eclipsed and Hindus reduced to a minority, has eventually seceded
> > from India. Every separatist movement in the last hundred years
> > (Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Dravid, Communist or tribal) has been anti-
> > Hindu in character. In contrast, there is not a single leader,
> > organisation or movement that called itself Hindu and yet was
> > secessionist. Hindus cannot secede from India because they constitute
> > India. It is they who have imparted Indianness to India. No other
> > group can claim this for itself.
> >
> > Secularism was the westernised Hindus' response to anti-Hindu
> > separatism and animus. They sought to deflect the attack by disowning
> > Hinduism. Secularists thought and still think that by de-Hinduising
> > the polity they would be able to neutralise Islam also. It has not
> > worked. Hindus may cry hoarse that they are secular, but for their
> > enemies they are still too Hindu to be left in peace.
> >
> > In fact, perverse secularism has confused the intellect, clouded the
> > vision and paralysed the will of the Indian state to grave challenges
> > such as overt secessionism, infiltration, Islamic separatism, and
> > even terrorism. Club these political and ideological failures with
> > secular failures in the realm of governance and foreign policy, and
> > the picture is complete.
> >
> > Since we tend to expect a lot from the state, we have allowed it to
> > assume very wide-ranging powers. Today we have a state which is all-
> > pervasive but weak, corrupt and inefficient and lacks a clear set of
> > priorities. Instead we need a smaller, less intrusive but strong
> > state, with a clear set of priorities. It would draw inspiration from
> > Kautiliya Arthasastra, Mahabharata and such treatises, rather than
> > junk ideologies and think tanks of the West.
> >
> > Such a state would never allow the country's borders to shrink at any
> > cost, would curb internal violence with an iron hand to regain its
> > monopoly of use of force, and would carry out police, judicial and
> > administrative reforms to provide speedy justice at affordable cost
> > to the people. It would use public resources for creating public
> > goods (environment protection, public health, primary education,
> > sound money, basic infrastructure etc.) which cannot be left to the
> > market mechanism. It will protect the right to property and enforce
> > contracts. Remember, farmers in Nandigram or tribals in Orissa did
> > not ask for jobs or sarkari welfare schemes, but the right to retain
> > what they possessed. Its economic policies will be aimed at
> > encouraging and facilitating growth rather than controlling it.
> >
> > Above all, such a state would be rooted firmly in the civilisational
> > ethos of the country. It would regard India as the cradle of an
> > ancient civilization, which the Indian state is expected to protect
> > and nourish. It would recognise the reality that after the secession
> > of the Muslim component of the state (provinces, bureaucracy, police
> > and army) what remained was Hindu Rashtra. This recognition would
> > mean an assurance to the Hindus that they have finally come into
> > their own, that Indian nationalism is rooted in Hinduism, and that
> > the State would protect Hindu society and culture against predatory
> > creeds.
> >
> > Secularist intelligentsia has spent six decades telling Hindus that
> > this is not their state, although they may be manning and funding it
> > by far. The Hindu response is visible in their indifference to all
> > the values espoused by the State, including composite culture and
> > secular (i.e. non-Hindu) nationalism. The loss of national character
> > in independent India has a lot to do with that. It also explains why
> > Indians are respected abroad, but India is not.
> >
> > The author is Executive Editor, Corporate India, and lives in Mumbai
> >
> > End of forwarded article from Murli
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
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TOPIC: Sri Lankan National Anthem
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 1:43 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
"...namo, namo, mata" still rings in my ears from the days when every
shortvave radio in the neighborhood would be tuned to Radio Ceylon
for Ameen Sayani's Binaca Geet Mala.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
In article <d9bdd867-1b42-44e5-af16-80688fa87fb8@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
nuanho nuanho <nuanho@gmail.com> posted:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
>
> Sri Lanka Maataa (Mother Sri Lanka)
>
> Mother Lanka we salute Thee!
> Plenteous in prosperity, Thou,
> Beauteous in grace and love,
> Laden with grain and luscious fruit,
> And fragrant flowers of radiant hue,
> Giver of life and all good things,
> Our land of joy and victory,
> Receive our gratefull praise sublime,
> Mother Lanka! we salute Thee!
>
> Thou gavest us knowledge and truth,
> Thou art our strength and inward faith,
> Our light divine and sentient being,
> Breath of life and liberation.
> Grant us, bondage free, inspiration.
> Inspire us for ever.
> In wisdom and strength renewed,
> Ill-will, hatred, strife all ended
> In love enfolded, a mighty nation
> Marching onward, all as one,
> Lead us, Mother, to fullest freedom.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 1:46 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Maybe the motherland to which the Muslims refer is the one
where 72 very experienced "virgins" await them.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
In article <4b5f5156$0$12434$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> hey, how come the muslims of sri lanka bow to the motherland?
> in india islam has a fatwa against that. hunter is so pleased.
> "nuanho nuanho" <nuanho@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d9bdd867-1b42-44e5-af16-80688fa87fb8@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
> >
> > Sri Lanka Maataa (Mother Sri Lanka)
> >
> > Mother Lanka we salute Thee!
> > Plenteous in prosperity, Thou,
> > Beauteous in grace and love,
> > Laden with grain and luscious fruit,
> > And fragrant flowers of radiant hue,
> > Giver of life and all good things,
> > Our land of joy and victory,
> > Receive our gratefull praise sublime,
> > Mother Lanka! we salute Thee!
> >
> > Thou gavest us knowledge and truth,
> > Thou art our strength and inward faith,
> > Our light divine and sentient being,
> > Breath of life and liberation.
> > Grant us, bondage free, inspiration.
> > Inspire us for ever.
> > In wisdom and strength renewed,
> > Ill-will, hatred, strife all ended
> > In love enfolded, a mighty nation
> > Marching onward, all as one,
> > Lead us, Mother, to fullest freedom.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeb3tsZsvU
>
>
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TOPIC: SERVE THE RASHTRAM. A CALL TO THE YOUNGEST NATION ON THE GLOBE. *** Jai
Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 2:15 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
Serve the rashtram. A call to the youngest nation on the globe.
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
The article by Shri V. Sundaram should be of great concern for the
youngest nation on the globe, Hindusthan. This should be a warning to
all the youth of India (who account for 75% of the population less
than 35 years of age) to take up the challenge posed by Sundaram as a
rousing call for action and transform the rashtram. The rashtram is
svargaadapi gareeyasi (greater than svarga) and it is our dharma to
make the rashtram vibrant and effulgent in the comity of nations.
Dhanyavaadah. S. Kalyanaraman
Shattered Splintered Deemed Damned Doomed India of Today
Monday, January 25, 2010
Magh Shuddh Dashami, Kaliyug Varsh 5111
By Mr. V Sundaram (Retd. IAS Officer)
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Tomorrow (26th January 2010) is the 61st year of the establishment of
our Republic. The Ship of Indian State seems to be sinking slowly,
gradually and irretrievably. In this terrible context, I cannot help
recalling a book titled "INDIA IN 1983", written by an English Civil
Servant belonging to the Indian Civil Service in 1888. The imaginary
and fictitious predictions he made in 1888 about the future of the
Independent Indian State seem to have come true in letter and spirit
today!!
When George Orwell published his book 1984 in June 1949, it instantly
became a best seller. Likewise in 1888, a book entitledINDIA IN 1983
was published. The book became very popular in India and England at
that time. During my visit to the British Museum Library in London in
1987, I had the good fortune of reading this book. I also managed to
get a photocopy of this very rare and unknown book from the museum
authorities. The author of that book intended to remain anonymous.
Written in the nature of a gripping political satire, the author
fore-told the granting of independence for India by England in 1983.
The author of that book prophesied with remarkable accuracy the
various so-called 'progressive' political reform schemes which were
going to come subsequently in the next 30 years and which were to
become the stepping stones on the road to India's freedom in 1983.
The only weak point in the book was the Englishman's optimistic
attitude towards the duration of their stay in India. He had expected
the British rule to last in India till 1983! The book depicted in a
humorous way the imaginary chaotic functioning of the Parliament (our
Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha of today!!) that was to be created in India
after independence in 1983, if the dreams of the Indian nationalistic
leaders of 1888 were to become a reality in 1983 in the fullness of
time.
Lord Ripon was the Viceroy of India in 1883. He was known for his
liberal attitude towards Indians and their aspirations. Sir Courtenay
Ilbert, the then Law Member of Viceroy Ripon's Council, introduced a
bill in the Imperial Legislative Council in 1883. In those days no
English or European or white citizen in India could be tried by any
Indian judge for his offences in India. The bill sought to do away
with that privilege of the whites. There was a great public outcry
from the British trading and commercial community in all parts of
India—and more particularly in Calcutta and Bengal--- against the
introduction of the Ilbert Bill. All the local vernacular newspapers
were vehemently in favour of the Ilbert Bill. Lot of dirty linen was
washed by many Englishmen against the so called native Indians and
vice versa. In such an atmosphere of vituperative public controversy
and high public tension, a new book entitled INDIA IN 1983 was
published. What is interesting historically is that this book
forecasting the attainment of Indian independence in 1983, was
published in 1888, three years after the founding of the Indian
National Congress in December 1885.
The new book created a great public sensation and unprecedented
consternation in official circles at Calcutta. In view of the
author's official position, the book was published anonymously, but
the gentry of that time guessed correctly who had written it. It was
T. Harte-Davies (1849- 1920), of the Indian Civil Service, a man of
versatile talents, the District Judge of Karachi at that time. He was
an accomplished pianist and a talented linguist. He knew French,
German, Italian and Russian, in addition to three Indian languages.
He was a frequent contributor to The Pioneer of Allahabad, a leading
English newspaper of that time. Upon his retirement in 1894, he
returned to England only to plunge into active politics there. He was
elected as MP for Hackney in 1895. He was also an active member of
the British Committee of the Indian National Congress. He was an
enthusiastic champion of the political aspirations of the Indians. He
was a close associate of Mr. A.O.Hume and Mr. Wedderburn, of the
Indian National Congress.
In his book INDIA IN 1983, T.Harte-Davies described the departure of
the British from India in 1983 in the following words:
"It was a still and broiling day in April 1983 when the last vessel
sailed out of Bombay harbour with the English troops on board. The
vast bay, which for a month before had been crowded with huge
transports and resounded with the rattle of shipping cargo and
stores, was now deserted, except for the picturesque native boats and
the Mail Steamer which was to convey the Viceroy, the Commander-in-
Chief, and the Governors of Madras and Bombay from the shores of
India."
T Harte-Davies caricatured the lawless and unruly Parliament that was
going to be established in India after independence in 1983.The
President of this new Parliament was Babu Joy Kissen Chunder Sen.
According to Harte-Davies, this is how he came to the Parliament and
started his proceedings in 1983: "He took his seat, and having just
finished his breakfast, proceeded to eructate violently three or four
times; he then blew his nose on the floor, holding that organ between
his fore-finger and thumb for the purpose, cleared his throat,
expectorated, and finally rose and burst into a flood of typical
oriental eloquence: 'Gentlemen, fellow-countrymen, shall I not say
fellow-members of Parliament and Romans, lend me your ears. This is
the proudest moment of my life, my vita, ars longa, vita brevis, as
the poet says, when I see before me your physiognomies and visages
all full of constitutional transformation; indeed, I am as it were in
a hurly-burly, and say to myself, I am now in a more noble position
than Washington was in USA in 1782; in a stronger position than
Cicero, when he stirred up his fellow-citizens to make war on the
Carthagians; all this I say in this princely house and more, sitting
on its own bottom, and controlling the Financial, Judicial, Revenue,
Secret, General, Political, Educational and Public Works Departments
of the Government of India' ( Thunderous applause greeted the
President).
Babu Joy Kissen Chunder Sen continued in this manner: 'For we are the
advanced thinkers, and we show things to others, and nobody shows
nothing to us. We are the heirs of the ancient wisdom of ARYAVARTA,
we are the sons of the Bengal, which has conquered India, we are the
B.A's of the Calcutta University, superior to all the gentlemen
educated at Oxford and Cambridge. Let us then go on blazes in the
course of civilization and progress, and guided by the teaching of
theology, psychology, geology, physiology, doxology and sociology and
all the other sciences that Pax Brittanica can boast of. We can now
confront the unmitigated myrmidons of despotism, and say to the
adversaries of freedom and jurisprudence, you be blowed (cries of
'Shabash', 'bohuth achha' and rapturous applause.)
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Chaos in Indian Parliament
I am indeed wonder struck by the prescient and detailed understanding
shown by T Harte-Davies about the unruly and chaotic functioning of
Parliament that was going to come to India after independence in
1983. He anticipated the unruly incidents, rude, crude, foolish,
indecent, barbarous and criminal behaviour of the Members of
Parliament in India 1983 in these words: 'The next instant every man
in the assembly of Parliament was on his feet and soon an unseemly
wrangling began, and such exclamations as, you shut up, you have got
no locus yatandi, chup raho, thum beff coofe ho and the like, were
heard through the din. At last they began to make uncomplimentary
remarks concerning the moral character of the female members of each
other's families and finally matters went so far that all the members
stood up shouting raucously with clenched fists with an attitude of
self-defence, which they accomplished by presenting their stomachs to
the front before the House. The President of the House tried in vain
without success to interfere and rang his bell to command silence.'
I have no doubt that Somnath Chaterjee, the Former Speaker of Lok
Sabha would be thrilled by the above words of T.Harte-Davies which
are totally relevant and applicable to more than 70% of the
disgusting members of the Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha today!! All round
corruption in public administration, gay and irrepressible swindling
of public funds, jobbery and nepotism which are the hall-mark of
governance in all parts of India today and which are directly
promoted as a matter of high state policy by the Sonia-directed UPA
Government were graphically foreseen by T Harte-Davies in 1888:
"Matters at all levels of government were arranged orientally, and at
the bottom of the native character there is a profound sympathy with
oriental methods of administration. It was now perfectly certain that
the larger part of the funds would stick to the palms of the members
of the Parliamentary Committee, that their relatives and friends
would compose the entire administrative staff, that no contract would
be given unless a handsome commission was paid to the President and
Secretary of Parliament, and that any works that were constructed
would be exclusively adapted to the improvement of the private
property of the President and Members of Parliament. All this was
thoroughly understood, and the feeling it aroused was not one of
indignation, but a simple and unquenchable desire to participate in
the spoils. After all, was it not better that the public money should
go in this way than that it should be spent by An English Sahib on
his eccentric notions of protected drinking water-supply, vaccination
and the like? In a native Government, with a Native Board fully
loaded with Native Members and having unlimited control over the
funds, whose proceedings every Native could understand, there would
be a better administrative set-up in the total absence of the
unsympathetic and incorruptible Englishman whose actions had long
been acknowledged to be unbearably incalculable."
T Harte-Davies gave a hilarious description of the official and
public reaction in England to the goings-on in the India of 1983 soon
after her independence:
"Such were the pleasing features which distinguished the closing days
of the year 1983. The English newspapers congratulated the British
Government on its fore-sight in declining to interfere in the affairs
of alien races, and on having finally decided, after two hundred
years of iniquitous possession, to allow India to stew in her own
native juice."
The tragedy and comedy of post independent India is that over 90 per
cent of our legislators (MPs and MLAs) have succeeded magnificently
in giving cubic content to the above words of T Harte-Davies. It ill-
behoves us as a nation after 63 years of our independence that we
should prove the caricatured portraiture of P:arliament in
Independent India which T Harte-Davies done in 1888 bang right in
letter and spirit in the India of 2010.
Perhaps Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (1859-1930) had our Members of
Parliament in his mind when he wrote 'The more featureless and
complete a crime is, the more difficult it is to bring it home....
Nothing is worse than a naked robber'. In my view, in so far as our
laughable Parliament is concerned, crime is a logical extension of
the sort of shameful behaviour that is often considered perfectly
respectable in legitimate, high and mighty Parliamentary business!!
During the last twenty five years there has been a gradual increase
in the number of MPs in the Lok Sabha with a criminal record behind
them, blurring the line between great crime and high politics. Our
former Prime Minister I K Gujral released a report in 2006 called
'Citizens Report on Governance and Development'. This report was
prepared by the NGO, National Social Watch Coalition, which is an
alliance of social groups, parliamentarians, academician, policy
makers and media practitioners with the objective of promotion of
accountability and democratisation of representative institutions.
According to this report, 518 out of 3182 candidates across parties
had criminal backgrounds while more than 120, which is about one-
fourth of the total, elected to the 14th Lok Sabha, had been charge
sheeted in criminal cases. We can see from this report that over 50
per cent of serious criminal cases registered against MPs were mostly
from the States of UP, Bihar, Jharkhand and MP. The report also
pointed out that lengthy legal procedures make conviction of these
MPs in a Court of Law even more difficult. The whole world is aware
of the fact that the Indian parliament has an overwhelmingly greater
percentage of criminals than the general population.
In the Lok Sabha which existed before May 2009, the number of MP's
charged with cases of serious crimes was 333, with several MPs having
multiple cases. If we look at violent crimes like murder, attempt to
murder, robbery, dacoity, kidnapping, theft and extortion, rape,
other violent crimes like assault using dangerous weapons or causing
grievous hurt, the Samajwadi Party (SP) lead the criminal show with
80 cases, followed by BSP 43, BJP 17, INC 16, RJD 9, CPM 5, CPI 1,
NCP 2. Regarding other crimes like cheating, fraud, forgery, giving
false oaths to public officials and so on, this was the Party-wise
position: BSP 23, RJD 22, INC 21, BJP 11, SP 11 and CPM 6.
I am presenting below two tables showing the party-wise number of MPs
with criminal charges pending against them and party-wise candidates
with a criminal record behind them. These tables have been prepared
by Association for Democratic Reforms (ADR).
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Lok Sabha 2004: MPs with criminal charges
Association for Democratic Reforms (ADR) was founded in 1999 by a
group of Professors from the Indian Institute of Management (IIM),
Ahmedabad and some alumni to work towards strengthening democracy and
governance in India by focusing on fair and transparent electoral
processes. Since it's founding, it has worked with over 1000 NGO
partners around India, disseminating information on candidates and
political parties to voters. ADR has also worked closely with the
media, the Election Commission of India and eminent citizens around
the country. Its founder was elected as a Young Global Leader by the
World Economic Forum in 2008.
The best way in which I can sum up the overall character of MPs in
our Parliament is in the words of Walt Whitman (1819-1891), hailed as
the great poet of American Democracy:
"...the members who composed it were, seven-eighths of them, the
meanest kind of bawling and blowing officeholders, office-seekers,
pimps, malignant conspirators, murderers, fancy-men, custom-house
clerks, contractors, kept-editors, spaniels well-trained to carry
and fetch, jobbers, infidels, disunionists, terrorists, mail
catchers, pushers of slavery, creatures of the President , creatures
of would-be Presidents, spies, bribers, compromisers, lobbyers,
sponges, ruined sports, expelled gamblers, policy-backers, duelists,
carriers of concealed weapons, deaf men, pimpled men, scarred with
vile disease, gaudy outside with gold chains made from the people's
money and harlots' money twisted together; crawling, serpentine men,
the lousy combinings and born freedom-sellers of the earth".
The shameful cry of many Indians today seems to be this:
"Breathes there the man
With soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said
This is my own -- my very own Italian
SONIA LAND!
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End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: Indian Actors Labels Pakistan as "Great Neigbhour"!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 2:29 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
In article <4b5e1aee$0$12421$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
> "Don speaks the truth" <don2006ka@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a71785f0-6190-4ef8-b146-0e5f2fea994b@33g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 25, 4:10 am, Mrs Rehana Javed Iqbal
> <mrsrehanajavediq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <8246aa87-c57d-4200-89f8-fab9340a0...@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > Moorthy says...
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yah244r
> >
> > >An Indian Muslim actor, pampered and given disproportionately
> > >excessive media coverage says that India is lucky to have great
> > >neighbour like Pakistan. He means the same state that has
> > >recognised international infamy as epicentre of Islamic Jihad terrorism,
> > >a state where public is all too eager to give donations to supplement
> > >state-
> > >sponsored terrorism, and its own citizens are labelled infidels and
> > >if they are lucky allowed to exist with lawful discrimination as per
> > >its medieval theocratic constitution. This S Khan would be better
> > >off going back to these badlands and enjoy his five time buttlifting
> > >among his fellow Pathan Talibs
> >
> > And also enjoy his asshole converted from o to O
> >
> > distribution widened to rec.sport.cricket because of IPL
> > and to soc.culture.pakistan for obvious reason.
>
> Moron, take this topic off rec.sport.cricket. What you have been
> provocating is a political/communal topic so take it off
> rec.sport.cricket.
>
> SRK is right in promoting peace between India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and
> whole of South Asia. FYI, he has advocated for a united India and
> Pakistan
> before. So suck on that, you instigator!
>
> Don
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> yes i agree that vajpayee and advani have been wrong in the terms you
> mention, and so are sonia singh and mm gandhi. but they are all after
> mommedan votes in india and hence paki-friendly, they don't care about
> indian people getting killed.
>
> promoting peace demands seaprateness and walls at the border, togetherness
> (mistakenly labeled unity) would lead to natural wars; mohamdism is
> irreconcilable with civilization, any civilization. hence two are mutually
> contradictory goals.
>
> india has two foriegn policies: look east (east of bangladesh), look west
> (west of pakiland).
> talk of unity with mommedan countries suits mommedan movie guys - most of
> them linked to criminals, extoritionists and terror - who have markets in
> mommedan countries. indians ignore them, while pakis pay to watch their
> movies. it is bad mix sports and movies.
Since people devote a lot of time to movies and sports, we Hindus must
utilize them to spread the Hindu message. Also, popularize gullee-dandaa
and kabaddi.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: church damaged, bjp resignation demanded by 3mc*2 deshpande
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 3:04 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Christians and Muslims -- both enemies of Hindus -- are in a mutual destruction mode.
Please pass the mitthaaee.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
In article <4b5f6e4a$0$12420$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> see, what i mean. the earthquake in haiti that killed the bishop could be
> hindu fundamentalists doing. nobody wants to talk about the damage or
> invstigating culprits, the issue at once becomes political.
>
>
>
> Two churches were attacked and the statue of Mother Mary [ Images ] was
> damaged on Monday in Mysore and in Uttara Kannada district in Karnataka [
> Images ].
>
> Culprits broke the statue of Mother Mary on the compound wall of the Holy
> Family Church at Hinkal village in the wee hours in Mysore district, police
> said.
>
> In the other incident, glass panes covering the statue of Mother Mary was
> broken at St Anthony's Church at Pernamakki in Uttara Kannada district.
>
> Police said the statue was not damaged. This is the second such attack in
> Uttara Kannada district after the Mundahalli church was targeted on January
> 22.
>
> The Holy Family church had come under attack in 2002 also when some locals
> vandalised it alleging forcible conversions were taking place there.
>
> Culprits had made a vain attempt to break the cash chest at the church late
> last year, Mysore Police Commissioner Sunil Agarwal told PTI.
>
> "We have already started investigation and are hopeful of booking the
> culprits soon," Agarwal said.
>
> In Bengaluru [ Images ], Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa [ Images ] directed
> the police to investigate and nab the culprits. Police, who pressed sniffer
> dogs into service in both the churches, provided security to them.
>
> Karnataka Pradesh Congress Committee president R V Deshpande, who condemned
> the attacks, alleged such incidents were on the rise after the Bharatiya
> Janata Party [ Images ] came to power in the state.
>
> "If the CM cannot control the attacks and arrest the culprits, he has no
> moral right to continue and should better resign," he said.
>
> Meanwhile, Global Christian Association and Konkan Christian Association
> have also condemned the attack.
>
>
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TOPIC: RENOWNED SINGER SARA FORMAN OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SANSKRIT ROCK BAND,
MARRIES IN NEVADA *** Jai Maharaj posts
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Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 3:22 pm
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Renowned singer Sara Forman of the world's only Sanskrit rock band,
marries in Nevada
September 29, 2009
Sara Anjuli Forman, singer of the only Sanskrit rock band of the
world Shanti Shanti, married John Patrick Gracey in a traditional
Catholic ceremony in Reno (Nevada, USA) on September 26 evening.
Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed also blessed the couple after the
Catholic ceremony held at Bishop Manogue Chapel.
Shanti Shanti released their sixth album titled "Veda" on the oldest
scripture of the world Vedas. This groundbreaking work, which took
one year to complete involving extensive research, contains shlokas
(hymns) from all four Vedas -- Rg-ved, Saam-ved, Atharv-ved, and
Yajur-ved; some as old as 1,500 BCE.
Sara has never been to India, never had a Sanskrit teacher, and still
she can spontaneously chant, read, write, and translate Sanskrit. She
has toured various countries and various states of USA with her
Shanti Shanti band giving packed Sanskrit musical performances. She
has been in various television shows, mentioned in various
publications, and extensively written about.
- Sampurn Media
Visit:
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Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 4:32 pm
From: "harmony"
apparently hse needs more time.
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100126Vj0swfQc345y2QS8fRiMu76@FM725...
> Renowned singer Sara Forman of the world's only Sanskrit rock band,
> marries in Nevada
>
> September 29, 2009
>
> Sara Anjuli Forman, singer of the only Sanskrit rock band of the
> world Shanti Shanti, married John Patrick Gracey in a traditional
> Catholic ceremony in Reno (Nevada, USA) on September 26 evening.
>
> Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed also blessed the couple after the
> Catholic ceremony held at Bishop Manogue Chapel.
>
> Shanti Shanti released their sixth album titled "Veda" on the oldest
> scripture of the world Vedas. This groundbreaking work, which took
> one year to complete involving extensive research, contains shlokas
> (hymns) from all four Vedas -- Rg-ved, Saam-ved, Atharv-ved, and
> Yajur-ved; some as old as 1,500 BCE.
>
> Sara has never been to India, never had a Sanskrit teacher, and still
> she can spontaneously chant, read, write, and translate Sanskrit. She
> has toured various countries and various states of USA with her
> Shanti Shanti band giving packed Sanskrit musical performances. She
> has been in various television shows, mentioned in various
> publications, and extensively written about.
>
> - Sampurn Media
>
> Visit:
> http://www.shantishanti.com/
>
> More at:
> http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/renowned-singer-sara-forman-of-the-worlds-only-sanskrit-rock-band-marries-in-nevada_100253543.html
>
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TOPIC: CHINA CLAIMS TO HAVE '1ST POP SINGER IN SANSKRIT', MAY PRESENT HER
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Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 3:25 pm
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China claims to have '1st pop singer in Sanskrit', may present her
during World Expo
By Saibal Dasgupta, TNN
The Times of India
Monday, January 25, 2010
Beijing - China's official media is promoting what it describes as
the first pop singer who sings in Sanskrit. She is one of the singers
being considered to sign at the inauguration of the World Expo in
Shanghai, which is expected to draw the glitterati from the world of
business next May.
This could be the reason why Sa Dingding, who won the BBC Radio 3
Award for World Music in the Asia Pacific category in 2008, is
suddenly being promoted by the provincial government of Tibet. The
provincial government has indicated it wants to reshape her image and
get her to focus on Sanskrit singing.
"She is also called the 'first Chinese Sanskrit singer'. To Sa
Dingding, who she was in the past is not important now... To preserve
her new image, she must eliminate all distractions," the local
government of Tibet said on its website.
Sa, who graduated from the Academy of Fine Arts run by the People's
Liberation Army, sings in the language of Inner Mongolia, Tibet and
in Sanskrit. Sa is not a Tibetan although she sings in Sanskrit and
Tibetan and dresses in grandiose Tibetan clothing.
"We should pay more attention to her music, to the Zen sensation and
Buddhist spirit in her music," it further said. The official site
went on to say that "Her musical inspirations all come from Chinese
civilization and culture."
Apparently, the local government is pushing her to give up song
writing and singing in languages other than Sanskrit so she can be
presented to the world as a symbol of China's rich cultural heritage.
"It is possible China may be trying to show that Sanskrit is part of
its cultural heritage. What better way to draw world attention than
to get a lovely voice to sing pop?," a Shanghai based expert on
Chinese culture told TNN.
During major events like the Olympic Games and the celebration of the
60th anniversary of the Chinese republic, Beijing usually makes a big
display of the culture and arts of Tibetans and other ethnic people.
It is expected to do the same during the opening and closing
ceremonies at the World Expo.
Sa also won praise from Grammy Award judge Eric T. Johnson. She is
the first Chinese citizen to be invited for a tour of the United
States by the Grammy organizing committee.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: CONGRESS BIGGER THAN DYNASTY *** Jai Maharaj posts
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Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 3:32 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Congress bigger than dynasty
A. Surya Prakash
Editorial
The Pioneer
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Speaking at a function to mark the 125th foundation day of the
Congress last month, party president Sonia Gandhi said that over the
next year, the party "will recall those remarkable men and women
without whose sacrifices and contributions, we would not be where we
are today; we will also mark those events that have defined
contemporary India, events shaped by our leaders that have left an
indelible imprint on the nation's social, political and economic
history". According to her, the party has been extraordinarily
fortunate "to have had men and women of courage, integrity, sagacity
and dedication to lead us".
During her speech, Ms Gandhi showered fulsome praise on Jawaharlal
Nehru, Mrs Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi, 'generously' devoted two
lines to Lal Bahadur Shastri (lest her partisanship become obvious)
but made no mention of PV Narasimha Rao, who was one of our greatest
Prime Ministers. Since we are celebrating the 60th anniversary of our
republic, all citizens who take pride in India becoming an economic
powerhouse in the 21st century will be doing a signal disservice to
the real heroes of India if they allow Ms Gandhi's deliberate
omission of Rao's name to go unchallenged.
The facts are as follows: Rao became the Prime Minister on June 21,
1991. The country's economy was in a shambles when he entered office.
Foreign exchange reserves had plummeted to precarious levels and the
rate of inflation was 13 per cent and eventually rose to 17 per cent.
The predecessor Government, headed by Chandra Shekhar, had pledged
gold to the Bank of England to raise $ 200 million because India was
on the verge of defaulting on payments. We had just Rs 2,100 crore in
foreign exchange -- barely enough to pay the import bill for two
weeks.
When Rao passed away in 2004, the country's foreign exchange reserves
were $140 billion (Rs 6 lakh crore). In the last week of December
2009, when Ms Gandhi felt that Rao was not worthy of a mention at the
Congress's 125th anniversary, India's forex reserves were close to
U.S $285 billion (Rs 13 lakh crore!). Apart from this remarkable
turnaround on the forex front, the country has achieved spectacular
results in terms of per capita income and GDP growth. The media and
communication boom that one sees today has its origins in Rao's
decision to end the Government's monopoly in these sectors. India is
now the second fastest growing economy and every nation in the world
is keen to have a slice of the action. In short, Rao was ahead of Mr
APJ Abdul Kalam in igniting the minds of Indians.
The second but equally commendable achievement of Rao was the grit
and sagacity with which he tackled the problem of militancy in
Punjab. The seeds of separatism were sown in Punjab during the tenure
of Mrs Indira Gandhi and continued unabated during Rajiv Gandhi's
prime ministership. The situation in Punjab appeared to be spiralling
out of control when Rajiv Gandhi demitted office in 1989. It needed a
cerebral and gutsy Prime Minister like Rao to retrieve ground. But
for the firmness displayed by him, Punjab could well have become the
first State to secede from India. Yet, Rao is not worthy of a mention
by the Congress president.
The Nehru-Gandhis have always been parsimonious in acknowledging the
contributions of national leaders other than those who belonged to
their family. This is a trait that is obvious from the days of
Jawaharlal Nehru, when everything was done to suppress the
contribution of Sardar Patel, who successfully integrated 564
princely states and gave us a united India, and BR Ambedkar, who
presided over the Constitution Committee.
The same trend continued when Mrs Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi were
at the helm. Ms Sonia Gandhi is obviously carrying forward the family
tradition. That is why although she says the party will remember
leaders who have left "an indelible imprint on the nation's social,
political and economic history", she makes no mention of Rao.
Further, although she says that the party has been fortunate "to have
had men and women of courage, integrity, sagacity and dedication to
lead us", she lacks the grace to acknowledge the contribution of a
man who displayed both courage and sagacity at a crucial time.
But, the suppression of Rao's achievements is not the only thing as
far as this speech is concerned. The bigger problem is the attempt by
her to credit Rao's signal achievements on the economic front to
Rajiv Gandhi. There is another family trait, it appears, to
appropriate the achievements of others, be they those of Sardar
Patel, Ambedkar or Rao. She makes the extraordinary claim that Rajiv
Gandhi ushered in the information revolution and that the party's
manifesto of 1991 became the basis for economic policies over the
next five years, "which imparted new strength and direction to our
economy and society", meaning thereby that Rao deserved no credit at
all for what he achieved as Prime Minister.
We need to examine this claim. Rajiv Gandhi was Prime Minister for
five years from October 31, 1984. Just a year after he demitted
office, India was desperately pledging gold to the Bank of England
for a measly $ 200 million and Ms Sonia Gandhi wants us to believe
that he ushered in our economic recovery! Yet another claim made by
her is that "he brought peace to troubled parts of our country".
Nothing can be more fatuous. Rajiv Gandhi defended the pogrom against
Sikhs in his infamous speech at the Boat Club in New Delhi in
November 1984. During his prime ministership, Punjab militancy was at
its height and there were scores of killings and bombings. In those
days, it required real courage to venture into a cinema hall or to
travel by public transport in Punjab and Delhi. The man who saved
Punjab for India and brought back peace to that State was Rao.
Finally, although Ms Gandhi's speech at her party's anniversary is
loaded with omissions, it may have its uses. It can enter textbooks
dealing with the law of evidence as a classic example of 'suppressio
veri, suggestio falsi'!
http://www.dailypioneer.com/231835/Congress-bigger-than-dynasty.html
More at:
http://www.dailypioneer.com
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: AFTER 500 YEARS, SHRI KRISHNADEVARAYA CORONATION *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 3:42 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
After 500 yrs, Shri Krishnadevaraya coronation
By Fakir Balaji
IANS
expressbuzz.com
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Hampi - The stage is set to relive the grand coronation of
Vijayanagara emperor Shri Krishnadevaraya Wednesday at this world
heritage site five centuries after he founded the empire in the
Deccan plateau of south India.
Hailed as the 'golden era' of prosperity, pomp and glory, the 16th
century Vijayanagara empire was an epoch-making event in Indian
history, as the illustrious emperor -- a valiant warrior, great
general and master military strategist -- had also sown the seeds of
democratic administration.
When the Deccan Sultanate rulers invaded the Vijayanagara kingdom in
1565, the empire's suzerainty extended from Nellore to Udayagiri and
from Kanyakumari in the southern coast to Kalinga in the east and up
to Goa in the west.
After a 21-year glorious rule from 1509-1529, Krishnadevaraya left
behind a rich legacy of artefacts, treasury troves, temples, palaces,
exquisite monuments and a royal city that was declared in 1986 a
world heritage site by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and
Cultural Organisation (Unesco).
To celebrate the 500th anniversary of the coronation in a grand
style, the Karnataka government has decked up Hampi, around 15 km
from Hospet in Bellary district, and organised a three-day festival
(utsav) from Jan 27-29.
"Celebration of the 500th year of coronation of Krishnadevaraya is
not only a tribute to a great son of the soil, but also an
inspiration to one and all at all times," Chief Minister B.S.
Yeddyurappa said.
To be inaugurated by Bharatiya Janata Party's (BJP) leader in the Lok
Sabha Sushma Swaraj, the grand fest will recreate the pomp, grandeur
and glory of the life and times of the empire through various
cultural programmes, including song and dance, sound and light show.
"A foundation stone to build a theme park with a 25-foot-tall bronze
statue of Krishnadevaraya will be laid during the fest. The park will
project the history of Hampi and Vijayanagara kingdom," state Tourism
and Infrastructure Minister G. Janardhan Reddy told IANS.
The park on the banks of the Tungabhadra river will be built on the
lines of Akshsardham temple on the banks of the Yamuna river in
Delhi.
A commemorate stamp and a coin with Krishnadevaraya's portrait will
be issued to mark the mega event.
Central Home Minister P. Chidambaram, who will be the chief guest,
will release two books titled "Hampi, the Splendour that Was" and
"Vijayanagara Through the Eyes of'.
Art of Living founder Shri Shri Ravishankar will grace the occasion
while Yeddyurappa will preside over the inaugural function.
Senior BJP leader L.K. Advani and Tamil Nadu chief minister M.
Karunanidhi will participate in the valedictory function Friday.
Kannada University near Hampi and the state government will provide
about 80 acres of land to set up a permanent exhibition, recreating
Hampi's grandeur as the jewel of the Vijayanagara empire during the
reign of Krishnadevaraya.
"Researcher M. Chidananda Murthy, historians Suryanath Kamath,
Sindagi Rajashekar, A. Sundar and S.R. Rao of the state archaeology
department will be felicitated for their work on the empire," Reddy
added.
The 100-pillared Hampi Vittalaya temple was built during the
Krishnadevaraya's reign.
Scholars like Tenali Ramakrishna, Allasani and Rudra Bhatta were
among the stalwarts adorned the court of Krishnadevaraya, who was a
renowned poet and scholar.
The king's epic poetic works "Amuktha Malyada", dedicated to Lord
Venkateshwara of Tirupati; "Madalasa Charitra" and "Jananachintamani
Sakalakathasangraha" are testimonies to his literary talents.
The emperor was also instrumental in starting the famous 10-day
Mysore Dasara festival and institutionalising the Vasanthotsava
celebrations with great fanfare.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: 'PAKISTAN'S AFFRONT A CERTIFICATE FOR INDIA' *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 4:11 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from Ram Gopal
Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
Dear Sirs/friends,
Here is a copy of my letter to the Pioneer for kind
information and action as deemed fit.
Ram Gopal
(For favour of publication)
Sir, I am sorry to say that Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's article,
"Pakistan's affront a certificate for India", (Sunday Pioneer,
January 24), is shocking.
It appears that the recent decline in Hindutva movement and
rise of Islamism has prompted Mr. Dasgupta to get into the pro-Pak
band-wagon. His observations that, by ignoring Pakistani cricketers,
the IPL has given Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle to
arouse further hatred for India and, in suggesting that Pakistan
should introspect over why its players are not wanted, the Indian
government has complicated matters, are just indicative of his
changed perception.
Mr. Dasgupta has forgotten that all the honour, hospitality
and money showered on Pakistani musicians by India and Indian fans
during the past 50 years have done nothing either to improve Indo-Pak
relations or inducing Pakistan to accord similar facility to Indian
musicians to perform on Pakistani soil. He knows well that Pakistan
has nothing to offer to India or Indians, except hatred and terrorism
and yet Dasgupta has chosen to plead their case. That India 'has
become the power centre of world cricket' or that 'India is a point
of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis' is no reason for India to go
an extra mile with special offers to Pakistani personnel. We ought to
know that while the so-called unbigoted Pakistanis are interested in
Indian wealth and beauty, the bigoted ones, who form the majority,
are hell bent on converting Hindus to Islam and making Hindu India an
Islamic State.
Yours faithfully,
Ram Gopal
End of forwarded article from Ram Gopal
Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
By Swapan Dasgupta
The Pioneer
Sunday, January 24, 2010
The sharp reaction in Pakistan to the non-inclusion of any of its
players in next season's IPL may seem needlessly petulant. The IPL,
after all, is a privately-sponsored tournament and if team owners
collectively decide that it is not worth the hassle to involve
Pakistani cricketers, it can hardly be said to be a calculated
affront to the Pakistani state and its people. It's a bit like a
Pakistani music director claiming that Aamir Khan has insulted his
country by refusing to sign him up for his next blockbuster. Life is
not always a great conspiracy; momentous decisions are often taken on
mundane considerations, peripherally related to lofty matters of
state.
Nevertheless, I am heartened by the shrillness of the reaction in
Pakistan. If anything, it only goes to prove that Pakistanis attach a
great deal of value to the glamour of playing cricket in India. In
the 1970s, when India was a struggling socialist country, mired in
shortages, the ultimate prize for cricketers was a berth in an
English country side. I recall the outpouring of national pride when
the dashing Farokh Engineer kept wicket for Lancashire in the 1970s.
Pakistanis must have felt an equal measure of pride seeing Asif Iqbal
captain Kent, Majid Khan open the innings for Glamorgan, Zaheer Abbas
top the averages for Somerset and Intikhab Alam prop up Surrey. That
was because England was perceived as the headquarters of cricket.
Overseas cricketers even lusted for contracts with club sides in the
Lancashire League.
An associated feature of this craving to be recognised in England was
the dejection, which quickly turned to anger, if something went
wrong. Sourav Ganguly was contracted to play for Lancashire in 2000.
Unfortunately, he was not a great success. According to a report in
Wisden Cricketer (helpfully included in Sourav's Wikipedia entry),
"The imperious Indian -- dubbed 'Lord Snooty' -- deigned to represent
Lancashire in 2000. At the crease it was sometimes uncertain whether
his partner was a batsman or a batman being despatched to take his
discarded sweater to the pavilion or carry his kit bag. But mutiny
was afoot among the lower orders. In one match Ganguly, after
reaching his 50, raised his bat to the home balcony, only to find it
deserted."
Predictably, there were many in India (and too many in Bengal) who
equated Sourav's adjustment problems with English racism. They were
reacting in a manner entirely becoming of subject peoples who have
nothing apart from victimhood for succour.
What we are seeing in Pakistan is eerily reminiscent of an earlier
generation's love-hate relationship with English cricket. Today,
India is the power centre of world cricket; it controls the economics
of cricket. There is a natural desire to find a place in Indian
cricket -- and the public adulation is a bonus. Equally, the anguish
of exclusion invariably results in intemperate accusations of bias
and national humiliation.
Pakistan's affront is the best certificate for Indian cricket and, by
implication, the Indian economy. Along with Bolywood, the IPL is
evidence of India's soft power. Whether we like it or not, IPL is no
longer perceived as a private sector initiative; Lalit Modi's
preferences have a bearing on wider perceptions of India. When the
Bangladeshi bowler Mashrafe Mortaza was 'bought' by Shah Rukh Khan's
team last year for a whopping $600,000, it didn't merely attract
newer fans for Kolkata Knight Riders, it earned India immeasurable
goodwill in a neighbouring country that is prone to be rather prickly
in its dealings with the big neighbour.
From the perspective of statecraft, it would have made eminent sense
for the IPL to have acquired the services of a few Pakistani
cricketers. Instead, we are confronted by the needless spectacle of
most Pakistanis perceiving the exclusion as a national affront.
India is a point of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis; the bigoted
ones hate India for precisely that reason. There is a tendency in
Pakistan to contrast its own miserable plight (which includes a daily
dose of suicide-bombing) with the liberal dynamism of India. Many
Pakistanis feel towards India the same way as India feels for the US.
There is a desperate desire to be acknowledged.
By ignoring its cricketers, the IPL has unwittingly given a cynical
Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle with which to arouse
further hatred of the traditional enemy. In suggesting that Pakistan
should introspect over why its players are not wanted, South Block
has complicated matters and given a private matter an official twist.
At the heart of the problem is the insufficient realisation in India
that we are no longer a pathetic Third World country. A ham-handed
Home Ministry mindset still seems to dictate many of our responses to
complex issues. For example, the silly post-Headley visa regulations
meant that many writers from overseas couldn't make it to the Jaipur
Literary Festival. The two-month bar on multiple entries into India
also meant that some chose to give the event a miss, rather than make
convoluted travel plans.
I don't know the extent to which a one-size-fits-all visa regime
strengthens national security. But imagine if Britain or the US had
imposed similar restrictions on overseas visitors. Would we have
nodded our acquiescence of their homeland security or would we have
cursed them solidly and charged them with xenophobia?
National security is paramount. But before we insist that every knee-
jerk restriction is put into effect indiscriminately, it would be
beneficial to consider the reaction if we were at the receiving end.
The inability to be discerning cost the US enormous good will. India
would do well to learn the lessons and move towards an uncompromising
but enlightened national security regime, one that is blessed with
intelligence and discretion.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/231448/Pakistan%E2%80%99s-affront-a-certificate-for-India.html
More at:
http://www.dailypioneer.com
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 4:14 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from S. Kumar
Monday, January 25, 2010
1. GOI has already declared that IPL is a totally private business
body and GOI has nothing to do with any of the functions of IPL. So
much for GOI.
2. The leaders of various bids declared openly that in view of
several bomb blasts by Pak based terror groups esp. 26/11 and Pak
continuing to send terrorists across the border with no serious
attempt to solve the issue, Indian population apprehend the safety of
the Pak players if they visit India.
If an incident like Srilanka team attacked in Lahore, happens in
India by same Taliban or Al Quaeda, not only the IPL but GOI would be
held totally accountable for such probable tragedy and blamed by Pak
Govt.
The bidders hence avoided any Pak player, though GOI favoured their
inclusion by issue of visa-s all of them including those outside the
Country then.
3. Pakistan has the habit of over-reacting to situations to blame
India. One of the participants in TV discussions stated, when Pak
Govt has consistently been denying Dawood Ibrahoim's presence there
though all details of his presence has been known and extending all
support/ logistics to terrorists, how could you expect Indians to
extend such invoitations risking their own lives?
4. Now Bangladesh Govt. has released the report that Mussarraf
himself visited Dhaka in 2002 and had a 1hr.30 min. discussions with
ULFA Chief in a Hotel there!! Were they discussing the belle-s in
Bangladesh?
Pak has been doing everything possible to destabilise and destroy
India since 1948 and still continues to do so. Though several
Pakistani children were operated for cardiac deformities freely in
Bangalore and regular visit and performance of musicians and artists
from Pakistan are encouraged by India, has there been any improvement
of relations?
End of forwarded article from S. Kumar
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
> Forwarded message from Ram Gopal
>
> Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
>
> Dear Sirs/friends,
>
> Here is a copy of my letter to the Pioneer for kind
> information and action as deemed fit.
>
> Ram Gopal
>
> (For favour of publication)
>
> Sir, I am sorry to say that Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's article,
> "Pakistan's affront a certificate for India", (Sunday Pioneer,
> January 24), is shocking.
>
> It appears that the recent decline in Hindutva movement and
> rise of Islamism has prompted Mr. Dasgupta to get into the pro-Pak
> band-wagon. His observations that, by ignoring Pakistani cricketers,
> the IPL has given Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle to
> arouse further hatred for India and, in suggesting that Pakistan
> should introspect over why its players are not wanted, the Indian
> government has complicated matters, are just indicative of his
> changed perception.
>
> Mr. Dasgupta has forgotten that all the honour, hospitality
> and money showered on Pakistani musicians by India and Indian fans
> during the past 50 years have done nothing either to improve Indo-Pak
> relations or inducing Pakistan to accord similar facility to Indian
> musicians to perform on Pakistani soil. He knows well that Pakistan
> has nothing to offer to India or Indians, except hatred and terrorism
> and yet Dasgupta has chosen to plead their case. That India 'has
> become the power centre of world cricket' or that 'India is a point
> of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis' is no reason for India to go
> an extra mile with special offers to Pakistani personnel. We ought to
> know that while the so-called unbigoted Pakistanis are interested in
> Indian wealth and beauty, the bigoted ones, who form the majority,
> are hell bent on converting Hindus to Islam and making Hindu India an
> Islamic State.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> Ram Gopal
>
> End of forwarded article from Ram Gopal
>
>
> Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
>
> By Swapan Dasgupta
> The Pioneer
> Sunday, January 24, 2010
>
> The sharp reaction in Pakistan to the non-inclusion of any of its
> players in next season's IPL may seem needlessly petulant. The IPL,
> after all, is a privately-sponsored tournament and if team owners
> collectively decide that it is not worth the hassle to involve
> Pakistani cricketers, it can hardly be said to be a calculated
> affront to the Pakistani state and its people. It's a bit like a
> Pakistani music director claiming that Aamir Khan has insulted his
> country by refusing to sign him up for his next blockbuster. Life is
> not always a great conspiracy; momentous decisions are often taken on
> mundane considerations, peripherally related to lofty matters of
> state.
>
> Nevertheless, I am heartened by the shrillness of the reaction in
> Pakistan. If anything, it only goes to prove that Pakistanis attach a
> great deal of value to the glamour of playing cricket in India. In
> the 1970s, when India was a struggling socialist country, mired in
> shortages, the ultimate prize for cricketers was a berth in an
> English country side. I recall the outpouring of national pride when
> the dashing Farokh Engineer kept wicket for Lancashire in the 1970s.
> Pakistanis must have felt an equal measure of pride seeing Asif Iqbal
> captain Kent, Majid Khan open the innings for Glamorgan, Zaheer Abbas
> top the averages for Somerset and Intikhab Alam prop up Surrey. That
> was because England was perceived as the headquarters of cricket.
> Overseas cricketers even lusted for contracts with club sides in the
> Lancashire League.
>
> An associated feature of this craving to be recognised in England was
> the dejection, which quickly turned to anger, if something went
> wrong. Sourav Ganguly was contracted to play for Lancashire in 2000.
> Unfortunately, he was not a great success. According to a report in
> Wisden Cricketer (helpfully included in Sourav's Wikipedia entry),
> "The imperious Indian -- dubbed 'Lord Snooty' -- deigned to represent
> Lancashire in 2000. At the crease it was sometimes uncertain whether
> his partner was a batsman or a batman being despatched to take his
> discarded sweater to the pavilion or carry his kit bag. But mutiny
> was afoot among the lower orders. In one match Ganguly, after
> reaching his 50, raised his bat to the home balcony, only to find it
> deserted."
>
> Predictably, there were many in India (and too many in Bengal) who
> equated Sourav's adjustment problems with English racism. They were
> reacting in a manner entirely becoming of subject peoples who have
> nothing apart from victimhood for succour.
>
> What we are seeing in Pakistan is eerily reminiscent of an earlier
> generation's love-hate relationship with English cricket. Today,
> India is the power centre of world cricket; it controls the economics
> of cricket. There is a natural desire to find a place in Indian
> cricket -- and the public adulation is a bonus. Equally, the anguish
> of exclusion invariably results in intemperate accusations of bias
> and national humiliation.
>
> Pakistan's affront is the best certificate for Indian cricket and, by
> implication, the Indian economy. Along with Bolywood, the IPL is
> evidence of India's soft power. Whether we like it or not, IPL is no
> longer perceived as a private sector initiative; Lalit Modi's
> preferences have a bearing on wider perceptions of India. When the
> Bangladeshi bowler Mashrafe Mortaza was 'bought' by Shah Rukh Khan's
> team last year for a whopping $600,000, it didn't merely attract
> newer fans for Kolkata Knight Riders, it earned India immeasurable
> goodwill in a neighbouring country that is prone to be rather prickly
> in its dealings with the big neighbour.
>
> From the perspective of statecraft, it would have made eminent sense
> for the IPL to have acquired the services of a few Pakistani
> cricketers. Instead, we are confronted by the needless spectacle of
> most Pakistanis perceiving the exclusion as a national affront.
>
> India is a point of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis; the bigoted
> ones hate India for precisely that reason. There is a tendency in
> Pakistan to contrast its own miserable plight (which includes a daily
> dose of suicide-bombing) with the liberal dynamism of India. Many
> Pakistanis feel towards India the same way as India feels for the US.
> There is a desperate desire to be acknowledged.
>
> By ignoring its cricketers, the IPL has unwittingly given a cynical
> Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle with which to arouse
> further hatred of the traditional enemy. In suggesting that Pakistan
> should introspect over why its players are not wanted, South Block
> has complicated matters and given a private matter an official twist.
>
> At the heart of the problem is the insufficient realisation in India
> that we are no longer a pathetic Third World country. A ham-handed
> Home Ministry mindset still seems to dictate many of our responses to
> complex issues. For example, the silly post-Headley visa regulations
> meant that many writers from overseas couldn't make it to the Jaipur
> Literary Festival. The two-month bar on multiple entries into India
> also meant that some chose to give the event a miss, rather than make
> convoluted travel plans.
>
> I don't know the extent to which a one-size-fits-all visa regime
> strengthens national security. But imagine if Britain or the US had
> imposed similar restrictions on overseas visitors. Would we have
> nodded our acquiescence of their homeland security or would we have
> cursed them solidly and charged them with xenophobia?
>
> National security is paramount. But before we insist that every knee-
> jerk restriction is put into effect indiscriminately, it would be
> beneficial to consider the reaction if we were at the receiving end.
> The inability to be discerning cost the US enormous good will. India
> would do well to learn the lessons and move towards an uncompromising
> but enlightened national security regime, one that is blessed with
> intelligence and discretion.
>
> http://www.dailypioneer.com/231448/Pakistan%E2%80%99s-affront-a-certificate-for-India.html
>
> More at:
> http://www.dailypioneer.com
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
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== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 4:18 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from S. Ram
Monday, January 25, 2010
So has Swapan Dasgupta joined the scotch drinking, psec, Hindu
bashing sickos?
End of forwarded article from S. Ram
> Forwarded message from S. Kumar
>
> Monday, January 25, 2010
>
> 1. GOI has already declared that IPL is a totally private business
> body and GOI has nothing to do with any of the functions of IPL. So
> much for GOI.
>
> 2. The leaders of various bids declared openly that in view of
> several bomb blasts by Pak based terror groups esp. 26/11 and Pak
> continuing to send terrorists across the border with no serious
> attempt to solve the issue, Indian population apprehend the safety of
> the Pak players if they visit India.
>
> If an incident like Srilanka team attacked in Lahore, happens in
> India by same Taliban or Al Quaeda, not only the IPL but GOI would be
> held totally accountable for such probable tragedy and blamed by Pak
> Govt.
>
> The bidders hence avoided any Pak player, though GOI favoured their
> inclusion by issue of visa-s all of them including those outside the
> Country then.
>
> 3. Pakistan has the habit of over-reacting to situations to blame
> India. One of the participants in TV discussions stated, when Pak
> Govt has consistently been denying Dawood Ibrahoim's presence there
> though all details of his presence has been known and extending all
> support/ logistics to terrorists, how could you expect Indians to
> extend such invoitations risking their own lives?
>
> 4. Now Bangladesh Govt. has released the report that Mussarraf
> himself visited Dhaka in 2002 and had a 1hr.30 min. discussions with
> ULFA Chief in a Hotel there!! Were they discussing the belle-s in
> Bangladesh?
>
> Pak has been doing everything possible to destabilise and destroy
> India since 1948 and still continues to do so. Though several
> Pakistani children were operated for cardiac deformities freely in
> Bangalore and regular visit and performance of musicians and artists
> from Pakistan are encouraged by India, has there been any improvement
> of relations?
>
> End of forwarded article from S. Kumar
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> > Forwarded message from Ram Gopal
> >
> > Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
> >
> > Dear Sirs/friends,
> >
> > Here is a copy of my letter to the Pioneer for kind
> > information and action as deemed fit.
> >
> > Ram Gopal
> >
> > (For favour of publication)
> >
> > Sir, I am sorry to say that Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's article,
> > "Pakistan's affront a certificate for India", (Sunday Pioneer,
> > January 24), is shocking.
> >
> > It appears that the recent decline in Hindutva movement and
> > rise of Islamism has prompted Mr. Dasgupta to get into the pro-Pak
> > band-wagon. His observations that, by ignoring Pakistani cricketers,
> > the IPL has given Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle to
> > arouse further hatred for India and, in suggesting that Pakistan
> > should introspect over why its players are not wanted, the Indian
> > government has complicated matters, are just indicative of his
> > changed perception.
> >
> > Mr. Dasgupta has forgotten that all the honour, hospitality
> > and money showered on Pakistani musicians by India and Indian fans
> > during the past 50 years have done nothing either to improve Indo-Pak
> > relations or inducing Pakistan to accord similar facility to Indian
> > musicians to perform on Pakistani soil. He knows well that Pakistan
> > has nothing to offer to India or Indians, except hatred and terrorism
> > and yet Dasgupta has chosen to plead their case. That India 'has
> > become the power centre of world cricket' or that 'India is a point
> > of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis' is no reason for India to go
> > an extra mile with special offers to Pakistani personnel. We ought to
> > know that while the so-called unbigoted Pakistanis are interested in
> > Indian wealth and beauty, the bigoted ones, who form the majority,
> > are hell bent on converting Hindus to Islam and making Hindu India an
> > Islamic State.
> >
> > Yours faithfully,
> >
> > Ram Gopal
> >
> > End of forwarded article from Ram Gopal
> >
> >
> > Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
> >
> > By Swapan Dasgupta
> > The Pioneer
> > Sunday, January 24, 2010
> >
> > The sharp reaction in Pakistan to the non-inclusion of any of its
> > players in next season's IPL may seem needlessly petulant. The IPL,
> > after all, is a privately-sponsored tournament and if team owners
> > collectively decide that it is not worth the hassle to involve
> > Pakistani cricketers, it can hardly be said to be a calculated
> > affront to the Pakistani state and its people. It's a bit like a
> > Pakistani music director claiming that Aamir Khan has insulted his
> > country by refusing to sign him up for his next blockbuster. Life is
> > not always a great conspiracy; momentous decisions are often taken on
> > mundane considerations, peripherally related to lofty matters of
> > state.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I am heartened by the shrillness of the reaction in
> > Pakistan. If anything, it only goes to prove that Pakistanis attach a
> > great deal of value to the glamour of playing cricket in India. In
> > the 1970s, when India was a struggling socialist country, mired in
> > shortages, the ultimate prize for cricketers was a berth in an
> > English country side. I recall the outpouring of national pride when
> > the dashing Farokh Engineer kept wicket for Lancashire in the 1970s.
> > Pakistanis must have felt an equal measure of pride seeing Asif Iqbal
> > captain Kent, Majid Khan open the innings for Glamorgan, Zaheer Abbas
> > top the averages for Somerset and Intikhab Alam prop up Surrey. That
> > was because England was perceived as the headquarters of cricket.
> > Overseas cricketers even lusted for contracts with club sides in the
> > Lancashire League.
> >
> > An associated feature of this craving to be recognised in England was
> > the dejection, which quickly turned to anger, if something went
> > wrong. Sourav Ganguly was contracted to play for Lancashire in 2000.
> > Unfortunately, he was not a great success. According to a report in
> > Wisden Cricketer (helpfully included in Sourav's Wikipedia entry),
> > "The imperious Indian -- dubbed 'Lord Snooty' -- deigned to represent
> > Lancashire in 2000. At the crease it was sometimes uncertain whether
> > his partner was a batsman or a batman being despatched to take his
> > discarded sweater to the pavilion or carry his kit bag. But mutiny
> > was afoot among the lower orders. In one match Ganguly, after
> > reaching his 50, raised his bat to the home balcony, only to find it
> > deserted."
> >
> > Predictably, there were many in India (and too many in Bengal) who
> > equated Sourav's adjustment problems with English racism. They were
> > reacting in a manner entirely becoming of subject peoples who have
> > nothing apart from victimhood for succour.
> >
> > What we are seeing in Pakistan is eerily reminiscent of an earlier
> > generation's love-hate relationship with English cricket. Today,
> > India is the power centre of world cricket; it controls the economics
> > of cricket. There is a natural desire to find a place in Indian
> > cricket -- and the public adulation is a bonus. Equally, the anguish
> > of exclusion invariably results in intemperate accusations of bias
> > and national humiliation.
> >
> > Pakistan's affront is the best certificate for Indian cricket and, by
> > implication, the Indian economy. Along with Bolywood, the IPL is
> > evidence of India's soft power. Whether we like it or not, IPL is no
> > longer perceived as a private sector initiative; Lalit Modi's
> > preferences have a bearing on wider perceptions of India. When the
> > Bangladeshi bowler Mashrafe Mortaza was 'bought' by Shah Rukh Khan's
> > team last year for a whopping $600,000, it didn't merely attract
> > newer fans for Kolkata Knight Riders, it earned India immeasurable
> > goodwill in a neighbouring country that is prone to be rather prickly
> > in its dealings with the big neighbour.
> >
> > From the perspective of statecraft, it would have made eminent sense
> > for the IPL to have acquired the services of a few Pakistani
> > cricketers. Instead, we are confronted by the needless spectacle of
> > most Pakistanis perceiving the exclusion as a national affront.
> >
> > India is a point of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis; the bigoted
> > ones hate India for precisely that reason. There is a tendency in
> > Pakistan to contrast its own miserable plight (which includes a daily
> > dose of suicide-bombing) with the liberal dynamism of India. Many
> > Pakistanis feel towards India the same way as India feels for the US.
> > There is a desperate desire to be acknowledged.
> >
> > By ignoring its cricketers, the IPL has unwittingly given a cynical
> > Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle with which to arouse
> > further hatred of the traditional enemy. In suggesting that Pakistan
> > should introspect over why its players are not wanted, South Block
> > has complicated matters and given a private matter an official twist.
> >
> > At the heart of the problem is the insufficient realisation in India
> > that we are no longer a pathetic Third World country. A ham-handed
> > Home Ministry mindset still seems to dictate many of our responses to
> > complex issues. For example, the silly post-Headley visa regulations
> > meant that many writers from overseas couldn't make it to the Jaipur
> > Literary Festival. The two-month bar on multiple entries into India
> > also meant that some chose to give the event a miss, rather than make
> > convoluted travel plans.
> >
> > I don't know the extent to which a one-size-fits-all visa regime
> > strengthens national security. But imagine if Britain or the US had
> > imposed similar restrictions on overseas visitors. Would we have
> > nodded our acquiescence of their homeland security or would we have
> > cursed them solidly and charged them with xenophobia?
> >
> > National security is paramount. But before we insist that every knee-
> > jerk restriction is put into effect indiscriminately, it would be
> > beneficial to consider the reaction if we were at the receiving end.
> > The inability to be discerning cost the US enormous good will. India
> > would do well to learn the lessons and move towards an uncompromising
> > but enlightened national security regime, one that is blessed with
> > intelligence and discretion.
> >
> >
> http://www.dailypioneer.com/231448/Pakistan%E2%80%99s-affront-a-certificate-for-India.html
> >
> > More at:
> > http://www.dailypioneer.com
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 4:21 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from M. W.
Monday, January 25, 2010
Cricket diplomacy will take time to yield dividends.
More players from across the world are willing to join IPL and are
making statements to endear themselves to the IPL's Indian clientele.
Mathew Hayden and Adam Gilcrist issued statements condemning the
attacks on Indians in Oz. Ponting did not make any statement but
opted out of IPL- 3.
The Shri Lankans are firmly in the Indian boat.
The Bangladeshis are making statements that no one would expect from
them two years back.
Mahmadullah considers MS Dhoni his role model.
Tamim Iqbal was lavish in his praise of Indian players and the
camaraderie between Bangla and Indian players.
Indian players (like Sachin and Zaheer) are visiting their IPL
counterpart's (Ashraful) home.
I think the IPL decision to exclude Pakistanis is good. It will
soften up the Pakistani players attitude towards India and let the
clubs read into the statements that follow the exclusion.
There are Pakistanis in IPL. Wasim Akram is the bowling coach of KKR.
India needs to weed out the antiIndians like Afridi, Shoiab Malik,
Sohail Tanvir and look for players like Shoiab Akthar and Younus
Khan.
End of forwarded article from M. W.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
> Forwarded message from S. Ram
>
> Monday, January 25, 2010
>
> So has Swapan Dasgupta joined the scotch drinking, psec, Hindu
> bashing sickos?
>
> End of forwarded article from S. Ram
>
> > Forwarded message from S. Kumar
> >
> > Monday, January 25, 2010
> >
> > 1. GOI has already declared that IPL is a totally private business
> > body and GOI has nothing to do with any of the functions of IPL. So
> > much for GOI.
> >
> > 2. The leaders of various bids declared openly that in view of
> > several bomb blasts by Pak based terror groups esp. 26/11 and Pak
> > continuing to send terrorists across the border with no serious
> > attempt to solve the issue, Indian population apprehend the safety of
> > the Pak players if they visit India.
> >
> > If an incident like Srilanka team attacked in Lahore, happens in
> > India by same Taliban or Al Quaeda, not only the IPL but GOI would be
> > held totally accountable for such probable tragedy and blamed by Pak
> > Govt.
> >
> > The bidders hence avoided any Pak player, though GOI favoured their
> > inclusion by issue of visa-s all of them including those outside the
> > Country then.
> >
> > 3. Pakistan has the habit of over-reacting to situations to blame
> > India. One of the participants in TV discussions stated, when Pak
> > Govt has consistently been denying Dawood Ibrahoim's presence there
> > though all details of his presence has been known and extending all
> > support/ logistics to terrorists, how could you expect Indians to
> > extend such invoitations risking their own lives?
> >
> > 4. Now Bangladesh Govt. has released the report that Mussarraf
> > himself visited Dhaka in 2002 and had a 1hr.30 min. discussions with
> > ULFA Chief in a Hotel there!! Were they discussing the belle-s in
> > Bangladesh?
> >
> > Pak has been doing everything possible to destabilise and destroy
> > India since 1948 and still continues to do so. Though several
> > Pakistani children were operated for cardiac deformities freely in
> > Bangalore and regular visit and performance of musicians and artists
> > from Pakistan are encouraged by India, has there been any improvement
> > of relations?
> >
> > End of forwarded article from S. Kumar
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Forwarded message from Ram Gopal
> > >
> > > Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
> > >
> > > Dear Sirs/friends,
> > >
> > > Here is a copy of my letter to the Pioneer for kind
> > > information and action as deemed fit.
> > >
> > > Ram Gopal
> > >
> > > (For favour of publication)
> > >
> > > Sir, I am sorry to say that Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's article,
> > > "Pakistan's affront a certificate for India", (Sunday Pioneer,
> > > January 24), is shocking.
> > >
> > > It appears that the recent decline in Hindutva movement and
> > > rise of Islamism has prompted Mr. Dasgupta to get into the pro-Pak
> > > band-wagon. His observations that, by ignoring Pakistani cricketers,
> > > the IPL has given Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle to
> > > arouse further hatred for India and, in suggesting that Pakistan
> > > should introspect over why its players are not wanted, the Indian
> > > government has complicated matters, are just indicative of his
> > > changed perception.
> > >
> > > Mr. Dasgupta has forgotten that all the honour, hospitality
> > > and money showered on Pakistani musicians by India and Indian fans
> > > during the past 50 years have done nothing either to improve Indo-Pak
> > > relations or inducing Pakistan to accord similar facility to Indian
> > > musicians to perform on Pakistani soil. He knows well that Pakistan
> > > has nothing to offer to India or Indians, except hatred and terrorism
> > > and yet Dasgupta has chosen to plead their case. That India 'has
> > > become the power centre of world cricket' or that 'India is a point
> > > of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis' is no reason for India to go
> > > an extra mile with special offers to Pakistani personnel. We ought to
> > > know that while the so-called unbigoted Pakistanis are interested in
> > > Indian wealth and beauty, the bigoted ones, who form the majority,
> > > are hell bent on converting Hindus to Islam and making Hindu India an
> > > Islamic State.
> > >
> > > Yours faithfully,
> > >
> > > Ram Gopal
> > >
> > > End of forwarded article from Ram Gopal
> > >
> > >
> > > Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
> > >
> > > By Swapan Dasgupta
> > > The Pioneer
> > > Sunday, January 24, 2010
> > >
> > > The sharp reaction in Pakistan to the non-inclusion of any of its
> > > players in next season's IPL may seem needlessly petulant. The IPL,
> > > after all, is a privately-sponsored tournament and if team owners
> > > collectively decide that it is not worth the hassle to involve
> > > Pakistani cricketers, it can hardly be said to be a calculated
> > > affront to the Pakistani state and its people. It's a bit like a
> > > Pakistani music director claiming that Aamir Khan has insulted his
> > > country by refusing to sign him up for his next blockbuster. Life is
> > > not always a great conspiracy; momentous decisions are often taken on
> > > mundane considerations, peripherally related to lofty matters of
> > > state.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, I am heartened by the shrillness of the reaction in
> > > Pakistan. If anything, it only goes to prove that Pakistanis attach a
> > > great deal of value to the glamour of playing cricket in India. In
> > > the 1970s, when India was a struggling socialist country, mired in
> > > shortages, the ultimate prize for cricketers was a berth in an
> > > English country side. I recall the outpouring of national pride when
> > > the dashing Farokh Engineer kept wicket for Lancashire in the 1970s.
> > > Pakistanis must have felt an equal measure of pride seeing Asif Iqbal
> > > captain Kent, Majid Khan open the innings for Glamorgan, Zaheer Abbas
> > > top the averages for Somerset and Intikhab Alam prop up Surrey. That
> > > was because England was perceived as the headquarters of cricket.
> > > Overseas cricketers even lusted for contracts with club sides in the
> > > Lancashire League.
> > >
> > > An associated feature of this craving to be recognised in England was
> > > the dejection, which quickly turned to anger, if something went
> > > wrong. Sourav Ganguly was contracted to play for Lancashire in 2000.
> > > Unfortunately, he was not a great success. According to a report in
> > > Wisden Cricketer (helpfully included in Sourav's Wikipedia entry),
> > > "The imperious Indian -- dubbed 'Lord Snooty' -- deigned to represent
> > > Lancashire in 2000. At the crease it was sometimes uncertain whether
> > > his partner was a batsman or a batman being despatched to take his
> > > discarded sweater to the pavilion or carry his kit bag. But mutiny
> > > was afoot among the lower orders. In one match Ganguly, after
> > > reaching his 50, raised his bat to the home balcony, only to find it
> > > deserted."
> > >
> > > Predictably, there were many in India (and too many in Bengal) who
> > > equated Sourav's adjustment problems with English racism. They were
> > > reacting in a manner entirely becoming of subject peoples who have
> > > nothing apart from victimhood for succour.
> > >
> > > What we are seeing in Pakistan is eerily reminiscent of an earlier
> > > generation's love-hate relationship with English cricket. Today,
> > > India is the power centre of world cricket; it controls the economics
> > > of cricket. There is a natural desire to find a place in Indian
> > > cricket -- and the public adulation is a bonus. Equally, the anguish
> > > of exclusion invariably results in intemperate accusations of bias
> > > and national humiliation.
> > >
> > > Pakistan's affront is the best certificate for Indian cricket and, by
> > > implication, the Indian economy. Along with Bolywood, the IPL is
> > > evidence of India's soft power. Whether we like it or not, IPL is no
> > > longer perceived as a private sector initiative; Lalit Modi's
> > > preferences have a bearing on wider perceptions of India. When the
> > > Bangladeshi bowler Mashrafe Mortaza was 'bought' by Shah Rukh Khan's
> > > team last year for a whopping $600,000, it didn't merely attract
> > > newer fans for Kolkata Knight Riders, it earned India immeasurable
> > > goodwill in a neighbouring country that is prone to be rather prickly
> > > in its dealings with the big neighbour.
> > >
> > > From the perspective of statecraft, it would have made eminent sense
> > > for the IPL to have acquired the services of a few Pakistani
> > > cricketers. Instead, we are confronted by the needless spectacle of
> > > most Pakistanis perceiving the exclusion as a national affront.
> > >
> > > India is a point of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis; the bigoted
> > > ones hate India for precisely that reason. There is a tendency in
> > > Pakistan to contrast its own miserable plight (which includes a daily
> > > dose of suicide-bombing) with the liberal dynamism of India. Many
> > > Pakistanis feel towards India the same way as India feels for the US.
> > > There is a desperate desire to be acknowledged.
> > >
> > > By ignoring its cricketers, the IPL has unwittingly given a cynical
> > > Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle with which to arouse
> > > further hatred of the traditional enemy. In suggesting that Pakistan
> > > should introspect over why its players are not wanted, South Block
> > > has complicated matters and given a private matter an official twist.
> > >
> > > At the heart of the problem is the insufficient realisation in India
> > > that we are no longer a pathetic Third World country. A ham-handed
> > > Home Ministry mindset still seems to dictate many of our responses to
> > > complex issues. For example, the silly post-Headley visa regulations
> > > meant that many writers from overseas couldn't make it to the Jaipur
> > > Literary Festival. The two-month bar on multiple entries into India
> > > also meant that some chose to give the event a miss, rather than make
> > > convoluted travel plans.
> > >
> > > I don't know the extent to which a one-size-fits-all visa regime
> > > strengthens national security. But imagine if Britain or the US had
> > > imposed similar restrictions on overseas visitors. Would we have
> > > nodded our acquiescence of their homeland security or would we have
> > > cursed them solidly and charged them with xenophobia?
> > >
> > > National security is paramount. But before we insist that every knee-
> > > jerk restriction is put into effect indiscriminately, it would be
> > > beneficial to consider the reaction if we were at the receiving end.
> > > The inability to be discerning cost the US enormous good will. India
> > > would do well to learn the lessons and move towards an uncompromising
> > > but enlightened national security regime, one that is blessed with
> > > intelligence and discretion.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.dailypioneer.com/231448/Pakistan%E2%80%99s-affront-a-certificate-for-India.html
> > >
> > > More at:
> > > http://www.dailypioneer.com
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 26 2010 4:25 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Forwarded message from D. T.
Monday, January 25, 2010
I think the Pakistani players who are no doubt very professional
players, are kicking themselves for missing out all the glamour and
big money of the IPL for the simple reason that they belong to a
country that represents a criminal culture. Not only Dawood Ibrahim
but also Osama Bin Laden are their exalted tenants.
If they could they would have started a Pakistani version of PPL.but
alas they neither have the financiers nor have the international
players who would be willing to come and play in their country, for
love of cricket or money.
We can not blame the Indian sponsors for staying clear and not
bidding for their players and take the all the risks associated
security risks.
End of forwarded article from D. T.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
> Forwarded message from M. W.
>
> Monday, January 25, 2010
>
> Cricket diplomacy will take time to yield dividends.
>
> More players from across the world are willing to join IPL and are
> making statements to endear themselves to the IPL's Indian clientele.
>
> Mathew Hayden and Adam Gilcrist issued statements condemning the
> attacks on Indians in Oz. Ponting did not make any statement but
> opted out of IPL- 3.
>
> The Shri Lankans are firmly in the Indian boat.
>
> The Bangladeshis are making statements that no one would expect from
> them two years back.
>
> Mahmadullah considers MS Dhoni his role model.
>
> Tamim Iqbal was lavish in his praise of Indian players and the
> camaraderie between Bangla and Indian players.
>
> Indian players (like Sachin and Zaheer) are visiting their IPL
> counterpart's (Ashraful) home.
>
> I think the IPL decision to exclude Pakistanis is good. It will
> soften up the Pakistani players attitude towards India and let the
> clubs read into the statements that follow the exclusion.
>
> There are Pakistanis in IPL. Wasim Akram is the bowling coach of KKR.
>
> India needs to weed out the antiIndians like Afridi, Shoiab Malik,
> Sohail Tanvir and look for players like Shoiab Akthar and Younus
> Khan.
>
> End of forwarded article from M. W.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> > Forwarded message from S. Ram
> >
> > Monday, January 25, 2010
> >
> > So has Swapan Dasgupta joined the scotch drinking, psec, Hindu
> > bashing sickos?
> >
> > End of forwarded article from S. Ram
> >
> > > Forwarded message from S. Kumar
> > >
> > > Monday, January 25, 2010
> > >
> > > 1. GOI has already declared that IPL is a totally private business
> > > body and GOI has nothing to do with any of the functions of IPL. So
> > > much for GOI.
> > >
> > > 2. The leaders of various bids declared openly that in view of
> > > several bomb blasts by Pak based terror groups esp. 26/11 and Pak
> > > continuing to send terrorists across the border with no serious
> > > attempt to solve the issue, Indian population apprehend the safety of
> > > the Pak players if they visit India.
> > >
> > > If an incident like Srilanka team attacked in Lahore, happens in
> > > India by same Taliban or Al Quaeda, not only the IPL but GOI would be
> > > held totally accountable for such probable tragedy and blamed by Pak
> > > Govt.
> > >
> > > The bidders hence avoided any Pak player, though GOI favoured their
> > > inclusion by issue of visa-s all of them including those outside the
> > > Country then.
> > >
> > > 3. Pakistan has the habit of over-reacting to situations to blame
> > > India. One of the participants in TV discussions stated, when Pak
> > > Govt has consistently been denying Dawood Ibrahoim's presence there
> > > though all details of his presence has been known and extending all
> > > support/ logistics to terrorists, how could you expect Indians to
> > > extend such invoitations risking their own lives?
> > >
> > > 4. Now Bangladesh Govt. has released the report that Mussarraf
> > > himself visited Dhaka in 2002 and had a 1hr.30 min. discussions with
> > > ULFA Chief in a Hotel there!! Were they discussing the belle-s in
> > > Bangladesh?
> > >
> > > Pak has been doing everything possible to destabilise and destroy
> > > India since 1948 and still continues to do so. Though several
> > > Pakistani children were operated for cardiac deformities freely in
> > > Bangalore and regular visit and performance of musicians and artists
> > > from Pakistan are encouraged by India, has there been any improvement
> > > of relations?
> > >
> > > End of forwarded article from S. Kumar
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> > >
> > > > Forwarded message from Ram Gopal
> > > >
> > > > Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sirs/friends,
> > > >
> > > > Here is a copy of my letter to the Pioneer for kind
> > > > information and action as deemed fit.
> > > >
> > > > Ram Gopal
> > > >
> > > > (For favour of publication)
> > > >
> > > > Sir, I am sorry to say that Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's article,
> > > > "Pakistan's affront a certificate for India", (Sunday Pioneer,
> > > > January 24), is shocking.
> > > >
> > > > It appears that the recent decline in Hindutva movement and
> > > > rise of Islamism has prompted Mr. Dasgupta to get into the pro-Pak
> > > > band-wagon. His observations that, by ignoring Pakistani cricketers,
> > > > the IPL has given Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle to
> > > > arouse further hatred for India and, in suggesting that Pakistan
> > > > should introspect over why its players are not wanted, the Indian
> > > > government has complicated matters, are just indicative of his
> > > > changed perception.
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Dasgupta has forgotten that all the honour, hospitality
> > > > and money showered on Pakistani musicians by India and Indian fans
> > > > during the past 50 years have done nothing either to improve Indo-Pak
> > > > relations or inducing Pakistan to accord similar facility to Indian
> > > > musicians to perform on Pakistani soil. He knows well that Pakistan
> > > > has nothing to offer to India or Indians, except hatred and terrorism
> > > > and yet Dasgupta has chosen to plead their case. That India 'has
> > > > become the power centre of world cricket' or that 'India is a point
> > > > of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis' is no reason for India to go
> > > > an extra mile with special offers to Pakistani personnel. We ought to
> > > > know that while the so-called unbigoted Pakistanis are interested in
> > > > Indian wealth and beauty, the bigoted ones, who form the majority,
> > > > are hell bent on converting Hindus to Islam and making Hindu India an
> > > > Islamic State.
> > > >
> > > > Yours faithfully,
> > > >
> > > > Ram Gopal
> > > >
> > > > End of forwarded article from Ram Gopal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
> > > >
> > > > By Swapan Dasgupta
> > > > The Pioneer
> > > > Sunday, January 24, 2010
> > > >
> > > > The sharp reaction in Pakistan to the non-inclusion of any of its
> > > > players in next season's IPL may seem needlessly petulant. The IPL,
> > > > after all, is a privately-sponsored tournament and if team owners
> > > > collectively decide that it is not worth the hassle to involve
> > > > Pakistani cricketers, it can hardly be said to be a calculated
> > > > affront to the Pakistani state and its people. It's a bit like a
> > > > Pakistani music director claiming that Aamir Khan has insulted his
> > > > country by refusing to sign him up for his next blockbuster. Life is
> > > > not always a great conspiracy; momentous decisions are often taken on
> > > > mundane considerations, peripherally related to lofty matters of
> > > > state.
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless, I am heartened by the shrillness of the reaction in
> > > > Pakistan. If anything, it only goes to prove that Pakistanis attach a
> > > > great deal of value to the glamour of playing cricket in India. In
> > > > the 1970s, when India was a struggling socialist country, mired in
> > > > shortages, the ultimate prize for cricketers was a berth in an
> > > > English country side. I recall the outpouring of national pride when
> > > > the dashing Farokh Engineer kept wicket for Lancashire in the 1970s.
> > > > Pakistanis must have felt an equal measure of pride seeing Asif Iqbal
> > > > captain Kent, Majid Khan open the innings for Glamorgan, Zaheer Abbas
> > > > top the averages for Somerset and Intikhab Alam prop up Surrey. That
> > > > was because England was perceived as the headquarters of cricket.
> > > > Overseas cricketers even lusted for contracts with club sides in the
> > > > Lancashire League.
> > > >
> > > > An associated feature of this craving to be recognised in England was
> > > > the dejection, which quickly turned to anger, if something went
> > > > wrong. Sourav Ganguly was contracted to play for Lancashire in 2000.
> > > > Unfortunately, he was not a great success. According to a report in
> > > > Wisden Cricketer (helpfully included in Sourav's Wikipedia entry),
> > > > "The imperious Indian -- dubbed 'Lord Snooty' -- deigned to represent
> > > > Lancashire in 2000. At the crease it was sometimes uncertain whether
> > > > his partner was a batsman or a batman being despatched to take his
> > > > discarded sweater to the pavilion or carry his kit bag. But mutiny
> > > > was afoot among the lower orders. In one match Ganguly, after
> > > > reaching his 50, raised his bat to the home balcony, only to find it
> > > > deserted."
> > > >
> > > > Predictably, there were many in India (and too many in Bengal) who
> > > > equated Sourav's adjustment problems with English racism. They were
> > > > reacting in a manner entirely becoming of subject peoples who have
> > > > nothing apart from victimhood for succour.
> > > >
> > > > What we are seeing in Pakistan is eerily reminiscent of an earlier
> > > > generation's love-hate relationship with English cricket. Today,
> > > > India is the power centre of world cricket; it controls the economics
> > > > of cricket. There is a natural desire to find a place in Indian
> > > > cricket -- and the public adulation is a bonus. Equally, the anguish
> > > > of exclusion invariably results in intemperate accusations of bias
> > > > and national humiliation.
> > > >
> > > > Pakistan's affront is the best certificate for Indian cricket and, by
> > > > implication, the Indian economy. Along with Bolywood, the IPL is
> > > > evidence of India's soft power. Whether we like it or not, IPL is no
> > > > longer perceived as a private sector initiative; Lalit Modi's
> > > > preferences have a bearing on wider perceptions of India. When the
> > > > Bangladeshi bowler Mashrafe Mortaza was 'bought' by Shah Rukh Khan's
> > > > team last year for a whopping $600,000, it didn't merely attract
> > > > newer fans for Kolkata Knight Riders, it earned India immeasurable
> > > > goodwill in a neighbouring country that is prone to be rather prickly
> > > > in its dealings with the big neighbour.
> > > >
> > > > From the perspective of statecraft, it would have made eminent sense
> > > > for the IPL to have acquired the services of a few Pakistani
> > > > cricketers. Instead, we are confronted by the needless spectacle of
> > > > most Pakistanis perceiving the exclusion as a national affront.
> > > >
> > > > India is a point of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis; the bigoted
> > > > ones hate India for precisely that reason. There is a tendency in
> > > > Pakistan to contrast its own miserable plight (which includes a daily
> > > > dose of suicide-bombing) with the liberal dynamism of India. Many
> > > > Pakistanis feel towards India the same way as India feels for the US.
> > > > There is a desperate desire to be acknowledged.
> > > >
> > > > By ignoring its cricketers, the IPL has unwittingly given a cynical
> > > > Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle with which to arouse
> > > > further hatred of the traditional enemy. In suggesting that Pakistan
> > > > should introspect over why its players are not wanted, South Block
> > > > has complicated matters and given a private matter an official twist.
> > > >
> > > > At the heart of the problem is the insufficient realisation in India
> > > > that we are no longer a pathetic Third World country. A ham-handed
> > > > Home Ministry mindset still seems to dictate many of our responses to
> > > > complex issues. For example, the silly post-Headley visa regulations
> > > > meant that many writers from overseas couldn't make it to the Jaipur
> > > > Literary Festival. The two-month bar on multiple entries into India
> > > > also meant that some chose to give the event a miss, rather than make
> > > > convoluted travel plans.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know the extent to which a one-size-fits-all visa regime
> > > > strengthens national security. But imagine if Britain or the US had
> > > > imposed similar restrictions on overseas visitors. Would we have
> > > > nodded our acquiescence of their homeland security or would we have
> > > > cursed them solidly and charged them with xenophobia?
> > > >
> > > > National security is paramount. But before we insist that every knee-
> > > > jerk restriction is put into effect indiscriminately, it would be
> > > > beneficial to consider the reaction if we were at the receiving end.
> > > > The inability to be discerning cost the US enormous good will. India
> > > > would do well to learn the lessons and move towards an uncompromising
> > > > but enlightened national security regime, one that is blessed with
> > > > intelligence and discretion.
> > > >
> >
> http://www.dailypioneer.com/231448/Pakistan%E2%80%99s-affront-a-certificate-for-India.html
> > > >
> > > > More at:
> > > > http://www.dailypioneer.com
> > > >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
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