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* INDUS WRITING ON METAL TOOLS AND UTENSILS, ENCODES SPEECH *** Jai Maharaj
posts - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/540b00ac304bf0cc?hl=en
* SHREEMAD BHAGAVAD GITA IN THE URDU LANGUAGE *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/7a91fd3f25cee13f?hl=en
* NEVER HEARD BEFORE!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/30d6f640f364b4f9?hl=en
* KNOW YOUR SEC(SICK)ULAR MAIN STREAM MEDIA PERSONALITIES - 4 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/2ed93e8751b01577?hl=en
* Global Warming and what you can do to against it - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/19afcd39ffbdf7d4?hl=en
* AYODHYA - LIES AND SHODDY JUSTICE *** Jai Maharaj posts - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/02ff78ea8aafa63a?hl=en
* HOW DEEP ARE THE ROOTS OF BHARATIYA CIVILIZATION? ARCHAEOLOGY ANSWERS: B B
LAL *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/82731ee8071cc3c0?hl=en
* RESTORE SHRI RAM TEMPLE DESTROYED IN 1528 CE AT AYODHYA - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/f3d03ef26905e16f?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN PASTOR SOLD DRUGS, SEXUALLY ASSAULTED YOUNG BOYS *** Jai Maharaj
posts - 1 messages, 1 author
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* REVIVAL OF HINDU HOLY RIVER SARASVATI *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/a96cfe084255d472?hl=en
* NATURE DEVS - Hinduism Today *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/07f1949f55fd7bfe?hl=en
* DEVADASIS - BHARAT'S LEGENDARY TEMPLE DANCERS *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1
messages, 1 author
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* HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM BARACK OBAMA *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1
author
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 9:52 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Indus writing on metal tools and utensils, encodes speech

Saturday, December 5, 2009

http://sites.google.com/site/induswriting/epigraphs

Updated 6 Dec. 2009

Indus writing on metal tools and utensils, encodes speech

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18615254/Indus-writing-on-utensils-and-metal-tools

A hypothesis is that the Indus writing is related to smithy-guild.
The hypothesis is validated by reading rebus, the mleccha [milakkhu
'copper' (Pali), cognate meluhha] homonym glosses.

The early smith not only invented alloying but also a writing system
to create smithy-guild tokens to authenticate the trade transactions
over an extensive area extending from Ropar in Sarasvati River basin,
Punjab to Ur in Mesopotamia. The trade was the mother of invention;
trade necessitated authentication of the smelting, forging, casting,
ingot, moulding metalwork using a range of mineral ores. This is the
function performed by over 400 pictorial glyphs (so-called signs))
and over 100 pictorial motifs (so-called field symbols) of the Indus
writing system which encoded mleccha speech (referred to as
mlecchitavikalpa by Vatsyayana included in the list of 64 arts in
vidyaasamuddesha, objective of vidyaa, education).

1. There are inscriptions on metal tools, evidencing the
competence of the smith as a scribe (karNaka, the most-frequently
used glyph, which means: rim of jar).

2. There are over 230 copper tablets inscribed with Indus writing
(see appended epigraphs), again evidencing the competence of the
smith as a scribe.

3. Over 10 metal tools and metal weapons of Kalibangan, Chanhu-
daro, Harappa and Mohenjo-daro are inscribed.

4. Mesopotamian texts evidence trade with Meluhha (Sarasvati
civilization area) in metals such as gold, silver, copper, tin and
alloys such as bronze which are high-value products of the times.

5. The legacy of the Indus mint continues into the historical
periods with the vivid use of Indus glyphs on early punch-marked
coins (cf. Theobald sign-list of punch-mark signs), Sohgaura copper-
plate, Rampurva copper bolt between ca. 6th and 3rd cent. BCE.

6. An average of 5 glyphs (both pictorial motifs and signs) are
used on Indus epigraphs. An average of 5 glyphs (both pictorial
motifs and signs) are used on punch-marked coins produced by metal-
smith-guilds/mints of janapadas (peoples' republics), consistent with
the repertoire of early smithy-guilds.

7. The tradition of use of copper tablets to record property/trade
transactions and rajashasana continues in India during the historical
periods.

8. The cultural continuum is also evidenced by the continued use
of cire perdue (lost wax) technique used for making bronze images (as
in Mohenjodaro dancing girl) of utsavabera made even today in
Swamimalai and other parts of India.

9. Bronze-age iron is evidenced in many archaeological sites and 3
sites of Malhar, Lohardewa and Raja-nal-ki-tila on Ganga basin have
shown evidence of iron smelters ca. 1800 BCE. The areas of austro-
asiatic speakers is correlated with the areas where early mineral-
smelting, iron-smelting have been located.

10. The standards of metrology (particulary weights) are used in
the civilization contact area (e.g. Magan, Dilmun) as evidenced by
the recent archaeological finds of weights and use of Indus writing
system in Persian Gulf states. 11. Two pure tin ingots found in a
shipwreck at Haifa contained inscriptions using Indus script glyphs.
The glyphs have been decoded as tin mineral (ranku dhatu).

Dholavira advertisement-board using many glyphs used on metal tool
inscriptions, decoding the advertisement-board announcing a variety
of metallurgical services. Mesopotamian texts also record trade in
'fish-eyes' [decoded as ka_n. 'iron' nodules; ayo 'fish'; rebus: ayas
'iron' (Skt.)].

See: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18309089/engrave

In the Indian tradition, a smithy is also a temple, as evidenced by
the gloss: kole.l which means both a smithy and a temple in Kota
language. The sanctity of metal work is paralleled by the sanctity of
bronze utsava bera [bronze sculptures carried in sacred processions,
and worshipped (puja) in homes]. Veneration of ancestors in
dhatugarbha (dagoba) or stupas or megalithic circles of stones gains
added significance in Indian tradition, by the semantics of the
gloss: dhatu. Dhatu means 'mineral' and it also means 'relics'. Both
are as sacred as the sacred-fire, the sacred witness-ordainer uniting
aatman with the cosmos, aatman with the paramaatman: agnim i_l.e
purohitam...

On numeral strokes of the script

Use of numeral strokes is a distinguishing structural feature of the
writing system. See: Decoding of numeric stroke glyphs of Indus
script

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18484078/numerals

Consistent with this decoding of numeric strokes in general,
numerals on metal tools and utensils may be read rebus and may not
relate to counting of objects or volumetric or weight measures.

An outline is apposite, to start with, on the use and rebus semantics
of numeral strokes on metal tools, by reviewing some samples of
epigraphs on non-metal objects.

http://tinyurl.com/yf2a83r

kalibangan 059a shows structural groups of numeral strokes, together
with a 'bow' glyph.

Mint, workshop (for) native metal, furnace, smithy.

kama-t.hiyo = archer; ka-mat.hum = a bow; ka_mad.i_, ka_mad.um = a
chip of bamboo (G.) ka_mat.hiyo a bowman; an archer (Skt.lex.) Rebus:
kammat.a = portable furnace (Te.) kampat.t.am coiner, mint (Ta.)

One short numeral stroke: sal stake, spike, splinter, thorn,
difficulty (H.); rebus: sal 'workshop' (Santali)

One long numeral stroke with superscripte of two short strokes: kod.a
= in arithmetic, one (Santali) Together with pairing sign Sign 99:
at.ar a splinter; at.aruka to burst, crack, slit off, fly open;
at.arccasplitting, a crack; at.arttuka to split, tear off, open (an
oyster)(Ma.); ad.aruni to crack (Tu.)(DEDR 66) Rebus: kod. 'workshop'
(G.); aduru 'native metal' (Ka.)

The numeral strokes should be read as: 3+2 (non-superscript). kolmo
'three'; rebus: kolimi 'forge' (Te.); dol 'pair'; rebus: dul 'cast'
as in dul mer.ed 'cast iron' (Santali). Thus 3+2 are decoded as:
forging, casting (smithy)] Vikalpa: pan~ca 'five' (Skt.) pasra
'smithy' (Santali).

Read on...

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18615254/Indus-writing-on-utensils-and-metal-tools

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 6:02 am
From: hari.kumar@indero.com


There is no concensus if these symbols are a language and not the
personal marks of makers of such items. As to speech, there is no
support at all.

The recent attempt to analyze these symbols by comparing them to other
symbol sets for known writing systems showed if they are a language they
are most related to dravidian systems and those of ancient middle east.

They are not related to sanskrit systems. Which refutes attempts at
revisionist history to connect indus and vedic cultures in any direct
manner.

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Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 12:42 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Shreemad Bhagavad Gita in Urdu Language.

Posted by hinduexistence on December 31, 2009

Bhagavad Gita in Urdu

Bint Zehera Rizvi, a devout scholarly lady translated The Bhagavad
Gita, the most read Classical Hindu scripture, into Urdu language at
her ease.

Zehera Rizvi a Muslim lady of 66 yrs and a Professor of Hindi from
Allahabad came to the central attraction of Gita lovers and admirers
as Smt. Rizvi completed such a great work after completion of her
Masters in Sanskrit and Hindi to fulfill her dedication very
successfully.

At her 19 Smt. Rizvi came to the blessings of Gita and felt that
one's life is incomplete if he/she does not read this 'heightened
philosophy of life' and 'the inner-calling of self' for at least
once.

Busy in her teaching profession and the NCC (National Cadet Corps),
Zehera managed her time very critically and completed this Urdu
rendering of Sanskrit Gita in some 12 years. Now the Book has been
published in 325 pages with attractive pictures. As reported in the
media, Smt. Rizvi failed to get any help from the Uttar Pradesh
stalwarts like Mulayam Singh Yadav or Ms. Mayavati. It is said that
the office of the Prime Minister of India and the Human Resource
Development Ministry only appreciated the work by Zehera on Gita.
Zehera printed this book with her own finance getting no help from
any quarter.

Smt. Zehera Rizvi was rewarded as a best Professor in 2000 by the
President of India previously. Smt. Rizvi expressed her utter
happiness of life through practicing the Philosophy and Life-style of
Indian tradition enshrined in Gita. Bint Zehera Rizvi categorically
said that Bhagavad Gita exhorts the National Integration, Peace and
Harmony in every life in a very exclusive way and teaches the
practice of own religion rationally and scientifically.

Courtesy: Nai Duneeya.
Posted by: Upananda Br.

This entry was posted on December 31, 2009 at 2:20 am and is filed
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Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 1:42 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Forwarded message from http://ketscool.wordpress.com

Know your sec(sick)ular Main Stream Media Personalities!

By Ketan Thakkar
December 17, 2009

Until recently, I was under assumption that whatever that are
telecast in TV and Newspaper are real and truth until I watched the
biased news on CNN IBN channel on Malegaon blast case.Sadhvi Pragya
singh was suspected for alleged involvement in these blasts.
Lt.Colonel Purohit of Indian Army was also suspected in this.All the
24X7 channels were busy telecasting their own views and opinions on
their so called secular channels. CNN IBN went one step further and
invented a new term "Hindu terrorism". It said Hindu terrorists use
"Hindu bombs". Do bombs have religion? It should be noted that Sadhvi
Pragya was not proven guilty and the ATS did not find any evidence
for the alleged involvement of Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Lt. Colonel
Purohit in the blasts. So the Maharashtra ATS, by the order of Sonia
led congress was insisting Narcotic tests on Sadhvi Pragya Singh.By
this time much of the damage has been done to Hindus and Hinduism and
Indian Army. Newspapers in Pakistan and Dubhai ran front page news on
this incident as if they were waiting for this moment. While the
charges made on Lt. Colonel Purohit proven false, the media did not
go overboard and declare Colonel Purohit as innocent. On the other
hand the CNN-IBN has been running special news on Sonia's recently
acquired Indian nationality. Will the CNN-IBN care to ask Antonia
Maino, where she was, during 1971 war. Why she took more than 15
years to apply for Indian citizenship? Why she lied about her
studies? Why did she not tell that she was bar girl in England? How
come, the prime minister's son Rajiv gandhi fell in love with a bar
girl? Do they care to ask these questions?

I believe in the basic principle of Journalism. That is "Facts are
sacred but Opinions may vary from person to person!!". Whoever are in
position to influence people's thinking and their thoughts have huge
moral responsibility and they should have national interest as their
top most priority. But what is happening in India is, all 24X7
channels have become sycophants of Sonia and her Congress party. Not
only news channels but also famous writers, well educated
secularists, Magsaysay award winners are also averse to the word
Hindu, Hindustan or India. Here below are the details on the News
Channels, Papers in India and people who are governing them. Source :
India Forum

Suzanna Arundhati Roy is niece of Prannoy Roy (CEO of NDTV)

Prannoy Roy married to Radhika Roy

Radhika Roy is sister of Brinda Karat (CPI(M))

Brinda Karat married to Prakash Karat (CPI(M) -- General Secretary)

CPI(M)'s senior member of Politburo and Parliamentary Group Leader is
Sitaram Yechury.

Sitaram Yechury is married to Seema Chisthi.

Seema Chisthi is the Resident Editor of Indian Express

Burkha Dutt works at NDTV

Rajdeep Sardesai was Managing Editor at NDTV

Rajdeep Sardesai married to Sagrika Ghose

Sagarika Ghose is daughter of Bhaskar Ghose.

Bhaskar Ghose was Director General of Doordarshan.

Sagarika Ghose's aunt is Ruma Pal.

Ruma Pal is former justice of Supreme Court.

Sagarika Ghose's another aunt is Arundhati Ghose.

Arundhati Ghose was India's permanent representative/ambassador to
United Nations.


Dilip D'Souza was member of PIPFD

Dilip D'Souza's father was Joseph Bain D'Souza.

J.B.D'Souza was former Maharastra Chief Seccretary and activist.

Teesta Setalva member of PIPFD

Teesta Setalvad married to Javed Anand

Teesta and Javed run Sabrang Communications.

Javed Anand is General Secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy {
?? }

Javed Akhtar is spokesperson for Muslims for Secular Democracy

Javed Akhtar married to Shabana Azmi


Karan Thapar owns ITV

ITV produces shows for BBC

Karan Thapar's father was General Pran Nath Thapar COAS during 1962
war, when India lost under his watch.

Karan Thapar was very good friend of Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali
Zardari.

Benazir Bhutto was Pakistan's Prime Minister.

Benazir Bhutto's father was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

Z.A.Bhutto served as Pakistan's President.

A.A.Zardar is the current Pakistani's President.

Karan Thapar's Mama was married to Nayantara Sahgal.

Nayantar Sahgal is daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit.

Vijayalakshmi Pandit was sister of Jawharlal Nehru.


Medha Patkar is a leading spokesperson for Narmada Bacho Andolan.

NBA was helped by Patrick McCully of International Rivers (formerly
Internal Rivers Network.)

Angana Chatterjee was on the board of IRN

Dipti Bhatnagar was an Intern/Volunteer at IRN.

Dipti Bhatnagar is an activist at NBA.

Dr. Angana Chatterjee part of PROXSA

PROXSA mother-ship of FOIL

ASHA endorsed by FOIL

Sandeep Pandey co-founder of Asha for education (ASHA)

Dr. Angana Chatterjee is married to Richard Shapiro

Richard Shapiro is Director and Associate Professor of the Grad.
Anthropology Prgm at CIIS

Shubh Mathur co-wrote a letter with Angana on 'Humanitarian Crisis in
J&K'

Biju Matthew is co-founder of FOIL.

Vijay Prasad is co-founder of FOIL.

Vijay Prasa co-authored with Angana Chatterjee and wrote against
IDRF.

ASHA has association with AID

AID works with FOSA

FOSA started by a Pakistani -- Ali Hasan Cemendtaur.

Amitava Kumar associated with FOIL

FOIL & FOSA opposed California Text Book Edits.

California Text Book Edits was opposed by Michael Witzel.

M.Witzel is Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University.


Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari.

Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based
in Mumbai.

Khalid Ansari is Chairman of M.C.Media Ltd.

M.C.Media Ltd. has a join-venture with BBC for FM radio brodcasting.

Khalid Ansari's father was Abdul Hameed Ansari.

A.H.Ansari was a freedom fighter and active Congressman.

Dr.John Dayal worked as a journalist with the N.Delhi edition of Mid-
Day.


Narasimhan Ram is the Editor-in-Chief of 'The Hindu'.

N.Ram's first wife was Susan.

Susan, an Irish, was in charge of Oxford University Press
publications in India.

N.Ram and Susan's daughter is Vidya Ram.

Vidya Ram is a journalist.

N.Ram is now married to Mariam.

N.Ram, Jennifer Arul and K.M.Roy participated in closed door Catholic
Bishops Conference of India in Thrissur, Kerala.

Jennifer Arul is the Resident Editor and Bureau Chief in South India
for NDTV.

Jennifer Arul is Chief Operating Office for Astro Awani -- Indonesian
news and information channel.

K.M.Roy was a reporter in 'The Hindu'

K.M.Roy is the General Editor of the group of the 'Mangalam'
Publications.

Mangalam Group of Publications was started by M.C.Varghese

K.M.Roy received the 'All India Catholic Union Lifetime Award'

All India Catholic Union's National Vice President is Dr.John Dayal.

Dr.John Dayal is also Secretary General of All India Christian
Council (AICC)

AICC's President is Dr. Joseph D'souza

Dr. Joseph D'souza founded Dalit Freedom Network (USA)

Dr.Joseph D'Souza participated in the inaugural Religious Freedom Day

The Religious Freedom Day was attended by former Republican Sentor
Rick Santorum

AICC claims Confederation of SC/ST Organizations (India) as a sister
organization.

AICC claims Christian Solidarity Worldwide (UK) as a sister
organization.

AICC claims Release International (UK) as a sister organization.

Release International states it supplies bibles and literature to
meet the need of growth and evangelism.

Dalit Freedom Network's partner's with Operation Mobilization India.

OM India's South India Regional Director is Kumar Swamy

Kumar Swamy is the State President of Communal Harmony Committee.

Kumar Swamy serves with Karnataka State Human Rights Commission.

OM India's North India Regional Director is Moses Parmar.

Moses Parmar serves as North India Public Relations officer of the
All India Christian Council (AICC)

OM seeks to plant and strengthen churches in areas of the world where
Christ is least known.

OM ministries work with Dalit-Bahujan people in India.

Operation Mercy Charitable Company (OMCC) grew out of OM India

OMCC works with Dalit Freedom Network.

DFN has Dr. Kancha Illaiah on its Advisory Board.

Dr. Kancha Illaiah is a Professor in Osmania University, Hyderbad.

DFN has William Armstrong on its Advisory Board.

William Armstrong is a former US Senator from Colarado (Republican).

William Armstrong is currently the President of Colorado Christian
University.

Colorado Christian University's one of the strategic objective is to
share the love of Christ around the World.

DFN has Udit Raj on its Advisory Board.

Udit Raj claims Joseph Pitts as a great friend of India.

Joseph Pitts is a Republican US Congressman from Pennsylvannia.

Joseph Pitts sent a letter to Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State
–USA, requesting USA to deny visa to N.Modi.

Joseph Pitts has led a Congressional delegation to Pakistan & India.

Joseph Pitts is Founder and Co-Chairman of the 'Kashmir Forum'.

Joseph Pitts along with Congressman John Conyers introduced
legislation condemning actions of N.Modi.

John Conyers is Congressman from Michigan's 14th congressional
district.

The 14th district contains Dearbon, a major city.

Dearbon has the largest Arab Americans for a city of its size.

Udit Raj is member of National Integration Council, Government of
India.

Udit Raj is National Chairman of Buddha Education Foundation.

Udit Raj is National Chairman of All India Confederation of SC/ST
Organizations.

Udit Raj leads Dalit International Foundation

Udit Raj leads Lord Buddha Club.

Udit Raj was part of an international Steering Committee on Kashmir

Majid Tramboo promoted the Steering Committee.

DFN has Baroness Caroline Cox on its Advisory Board.

Baroness Caroline Cox is Deputy Speaker, House of Lords, England.


Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy

Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar


Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul

Nadira Alvi, a journalist, is sister of recently assassinated Maj Gen
Amir Faisal Alvi, the ex-chief of Pakistan's elite SSG


"Resalat" is a Tehran-based Persian daily.

"Ettela'at" is another Tehran-based Persian daily.

"Resallat" and "Ettela'at"signed MoU with "Siyasat" and "Munif"

Siyasat and Munif are Hyderbad, Andhra Pradesh based dailies.

Toseeh is another Persian daily.

Toseeh has tied up with Vaarta.

Vaarta is one of the dailies from A.G.A.Publications Pvt Ltd.

A.G.A Publications Pvt Ltd is one of the companies in Sanghi Group

Sanghi Group was co-promoted by Gireesh Sanghi with his brothers.

Gireesh Sanghi is Congress M.P, Rajaya Sabha

Gireesh Sanghi is All India Vaish Federation National President.

Mahendra Mohan Gupta is on the Advisory Board of AIVF

Mahendra Mohan Gupta is Chairman of Dainik Jagran Group


Ramoji Group is headed by Ramoji Rao

Ramoji Rao is Founder & Chairman of Eenadu

Eenadu is the largest Telugu news daily in Andhra Pradesh.

Ramoji Group also owns ETV Network.

ETV Network produces content in Telugu, Bangla, Marathi, Kannada,
Oriya, Gujarati, Urdu & Hindi.

Ramoji is reported to be close to Chandra Babu Naidu and supported of
Telugu Desam Party.

Ushodaya Enterprises Pvt. Ltd's parent company is Ramoji Group.

Blackstone Group is reported to have invested Rs600 crore in UEL.


Deccan Chronicle Holdings Ltd brings out The Deccan Chronicle
newspaper.

DCHL also brings out "Andhra Bhoomi" a telugu newspaper.

DCHL also brings out "Asian Age".

DCHL became a publishing parter of 'The New York Times'.

DCHL began publishing 'The International Herald Tribune'

T.Venkatram Reddy is the Chairman of DCHL.

T.Venkatram Reddy is fromer MP, Rajhya Sabha from Congress.

M.J.Akbar was Editor-in-Chief of Deccan Chronicle and Asian Age.

M.J.Akbar is Founder and Chairman of the fortnightly the Covert.

M.J. Akbar worked at 'Times of India', 'Sunday' & 'The Telegraph'

M.J.Akbar was an Congress MLA from 1989 to 1991.

M.J.Akbar joined The Brookings Institution, Washington in 2006, as a
Visiting Fellow on U.S. Policy Towards the Islamic World.

M.J.Akbar was a member of the 'Forum of Islamic Scholars and
Intellectual' held in Makkha al-Mukaramma in 2005.

M.J.Akbar's wife is Mallika Joseph.

Mallika Joseph worked at Times of India.


Y.S.Rajasekhara Reddy is the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh.

YSR Reddy is from the Congress party (INC).

YSR Reddy's father, Raja Reddy, setup a degree college and a
Polytechnic in Pulivendula.

YSR Reddy has said that his one year study at Andhra Loyola College
(ALC), a Jesuit institution, influenced him so much that he handed
over the Pulivendula colleges to the Loyola Group.

The YS family has established several educational institutions in
Andhra Pradesh.

YSR Reddy's daughter is Sharmila.

Sharmila married Anil Kumar, Anil Kumar converted to Christianity
after the marriage.

Anil Kumar set up "Anil World Evangelism" and is an active
Evangelist.

YSR Reddy's son is YS Jagan Mohan Reddy.

YS Jagan is a youth Congress Leader.

YS Jagan is Chairman of Jagati Publications Pvt. Ltd.

Bhumna Karunakara Reddy is close to YSR Reddy.

Karunakara Reddy is the Chairman of Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam.

JPPL publishes the newspaper Sakshi.

Chandra Babu Naidu has claimed that Lanco group was forced to invest
in JPPL.

L. Sridhar is alleged to have made the investment from Lanco Group.

L Sridhar is Lanco Infratech's Vice Chairman

L Sridhar's brother is L.Rajagopal.

L.Rajagopal joined Congress in 2003.

L Rajagopal is the son-in-law of P.Upendra.

P.Upendra is a former Minister from Congress.

Lanco Group's Chairman is L. Rajagopal


Andhra Prabha is a telugu newspaper started in 1938.

Andhra Prabha is owned by The New Indian Express Group.


Andhra Jyothi is a telugu newspaper.

Andhra Jyothi's Managing Director is Vemuri Radhakrishna.


SUN TV Network is owned by Kalanidhi Maran.

Kalanidhi Maran is the Chairman & Managing Director of SUN TV
Network.

SUN TV network owns: Sun TV, Gemini TV, Teja TV, Surya TV, Kiran TV,
Udaya TV, Surjo TV among other channels.

Kalanidhi Maran owns the tamil daily 'Dinakaran'.

Dinakaran was started by a former DMK Minister K.P.Kandasamy.

Kalanidhi Maran's brother is Dayanidhi Maran.

Dayanidhi Maran was Minister of Communications and IT in the UPA
government.

Kalanidhi Maran's father was Murasoli Maran.

Murasoli Maran was a Union Minister from the DMK party.

Murasoli Maran edited a tamil daily 'Murasoli'.

Murasoli Maran was an editor to 'The Rising Sun' a English weekly.

Murasoli Maran as a publisher published the following tamil
magazines: Kungumam, Muththaram, Vannathirai & Sumangali.

Murasoli Maran's uncle is M.Karunanidhi.

M.Karunanidhi is Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, from the DMK party.

M.Karunanidhi launched Kalaignar TV in 2007.

M.K.Azhagiri owns Kalaignar TV.

M.K.Azhagiri is M.Karunanidhi's son.

M.K.Stalin is another son of the M.Karunanidhi..

M.K.Stalin was named after Joseph Stalin.

Joseph Stalin was the authoritarian leader of the Soviet Union.

M.K.Stalin is the Minister for Rural Development and Local
Administration in Tamil Nadu.

Kanimozhi is one of the daughters of M.Karunanidhi.

Kanimozhi was a sub-editor for the 'The Hindu'.

Kanimohi was Editor in Charge of 'Kungumam' a tamil weekly.

Kanimozhi became a Rajya Sabha member in 2007.

Kanimozhi conducted programs in SUN TV and Vijay TV.

Kanimozhi's second husband G.Aravindan is Singapore based Tamil
literary figure.


Dina Thanthi a tamil daily was founded bu Si.Pa.Aditanar.

Aditanar's second son is Sivanthi Athithan.

Sivanthi Athithan owns Dina Thanthi.

Aditanar had launced the tamil evening daily 'Malai Murasu'.

Aditanar set up Malar Publications Ltd.

Malar Publications Ltd. Brings out the tamil evening newspaper Malai
Malar.

Balasubramanian Adityan son of Sivanthi Athithan managers Malar
Publications Ltd.

B.Adityan set up 'Air Media Network Pvt Ltd' (AMN)

AMN is into cable distribution, content productions and broadcasting.

AMN owns AMN TV

AMN has produced content for FM radio, All India Radio, Doordarshan,
Vijay TV.


Dina Mani is a tamil newspaper.

Dina Mani is owned by The New Indian Express Group. (NIEG)

NIEG owns Kannadaprabha, Andhraprabha, Malaylamvarikha, Indiavarta
and Expressbuzz.

NIEG also owns Cinemaexpress & Tamilanexpress


STAR Vijay TV is a tamil TV channel.

Vijay TV is owned by STAR TV

STAR TV is owned by News Corporation based in Hong Kong.

News Corporation is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Fox Entertainment Group is a subsidiary of News Corporation.

FEG owns Fox News Channel, in USA.

Fox News is a conservative, pro-church Republican Party channel in US

News Corporation owns the The Wall Street Journal

Jaya TV is a tamil TV channel.

Jaya TV is owned by Jaya Network.

Jaya Network is owned by J.Jayalalitha

Jayalalitha was the former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu (AIADMK
party)

Makkal TV is owned by Makkal Tholaikatchi


Act Now for Harmony and Democracy's (ANHAD) Founding and Managing
Trustee is Shabnam Hashmi

Shabnam's father was a freedom fighter.

Shabnam went to USSR on a cultural exchange scholarship for six
years.

Shabham is married to Gauhar Raza.

KN Panikkar is a Founding trustee of ANHAD

Panikkar is an Indian Marxist Historian.

Panikkar was the Vice Chancellor of Sree Sankarcharya Sanskrit
University, Kalady, Kerala.

Panikkar received Homi Bhabha Senior Fellowship.

Panikkar was awarded Padma Bhushan.

Harsh Mander is a Founding trustee of ANHAD

Harsh Mander is a Human Rights activist, author and was in the IAS.

Harsh Mander was close to Ajit Jogi

Harsh Mander, born into Sikh faith, was in-charge of the relief camps
in Indore during the 1984 riots.

Harsh Mander served as Managing Director of SC/ST Finance
Corporation.

Harsh Mander was the Director of ActionAid India.

Ajit Jogi was the Chief Minister of Chhatisgarh.

Ajit Jogi is from the Congress party (INC).

It is claimed that after Ajit Jogi, a tribal Christian became the CM
the rate of Christian conversions has gone up.

Harsh Mander received the 2002 "Rev. M.A.Thomas National Human Rights
Award"

Rev M.A.Thomas National Human Rights Award was awarded by "Vigil
India Movement.

Shubha Mudgal is a trustee of ANHAD

Shubha's parents Skand and Jaya Gupta were professors of English
literature at Allahabad University.

Shubha's grand-father Prof. P.C.Gupta was also a professor at
Allahabad University.

Shubha's first husband was Justice Mukul Mudgal of Delhi High Court.

Shubha is currently married to Aneesh Pradan, a tabla player.

Shubha received Padma Shri.

Shubha has received several awards in the field of music.

Kamla Bhasin is a trustee of ANHAD

Kamla is an Indian feminist.

Kamla was a lecturer in the Orientation Centre of the German
Foundation for Developing Countries, Bad Honnef, West Germany.

Kamla was the Development Secretary of Seva Mandir, Udaipur.

Saeed Akhtar Mirza is a trustee of ANHAD

Saeed Mirza is a writer and director in Hindi films and television.

Saeed Mirza's father is Akhtar Mirza

Akhtar Mirza was a noted film script writer.


Asianet Communications Limited (ACL) has a majority stake in Asianet
TV.

ACL is owned by Jupiter Entertainment Ventures Limited (JEVL).

JEVL is a subsidiary of Jupiter Capitals Ltd.

The other media outlets of ACL are: Asianet News, Asianet Plus, Best
FM 95, Asianet Suvarana, Suvarna News, Asianet Sitara and Sitara
News.

Rajeev Chandrasekhar is the Chairman & Editor-in-chief.

Rajeev Chandrasekar entered Rajya Sabha in 2006.

Rajeev Chandrasekar's uncle is M.K.Narayanan

M.K.Narayanan is National Security Advisor

M.K.Narayanan headed the Intelligence Bureau from 1987 to 1990.


Malayalam daily, Mathrubhumi, is owned by M P Virendrakumar

Virendrakumar is a MP through Janata Dal (Secular), from Kerala

In Kerala, Deva Gowda's Janata Dal (Secular) party is a constituent
of Left Democratic Front

Latest Editor of Mathrubhumi is Kesava Menon

Kesava Menon was the Associate Editor of The Hindu before taking up
this position


Shashi Tharoor is an Indian Diplomat.

Shashi is the son of late Chandran Tharoor.

Chandran was a journalist working for Amrita Bazar Patrika of
Calcutta.

Chandran headed "The Statesman" in 1959.

Shashi Tharoor is going to contest as INC (Congress) candidate in
2009.

Ishaan and Kanishk are twin sons of Shashi.

Ishaan lives in Hong Kong and works for "Time" magazine.

Kanishk lives in London and works for "OpenDemocracy".

Shobha Tharoor Srinivasan is a sister of Shashi.

Smita Tharoor is another sister of Shashi.

Ragini Tharoor Srinivasan is daughter of Shobha.

Ragini is the editor of "India Currents".

Shobha writes in "India Currents"

India Currents is an Indian American monthly.

Shashi's first wife was Tilottama Mukherji from Kolkata.

Tilottama was/is a journalist and scholar.

Sahshi's second wife is Christ Giles, a Canadian.

Christa is Deputy Secretary of the United Nations Disarmament
Commission.

Mukundan Unni was Shashi's maternal uncle.

Tharoor Parameswar was Chandran Tharoor's elder brother.

Parameswar was the founder publisher of the Indian edition of
"Reader's Digest".

Param resurrected & presided the Advertising Club of Bombay.

Param was also the Advertising Manager of Amrita Bazar Patrika.


Shobhana Bhartia is the Chairperson and Editorial Director of
Hindustan Times group

Shobhana is the daughter of KK Birla; grand daughter of GD Birla.

KK Birla joined INC (Congress) party in 1984.

KK Birla was later elected Rajya Sabha member in 1984.

Shobhana is married to Shyam Sunder Bhartia

Shyam is the Chariman of Jubliant Organosys Ltd, a Pharma company

Shyam is the son of late Mohan Lal Bhartia.

Shamit Bhartia and Priyavrat Bhartia are their sons

Shamit is a Director at the Hindustan Times group.

Shobhana was nominated for Rajya Sabha in 2006.

Shobhana is politically affiliated to INC (Congress).

She was nominated by UPA headed by Sonia Gandhi.

Shobhana was a 2005 Padma Shree award. This was after UPA formed the
government in 2004.

Priyavrat is a Director at the Hindustan Times group.

Shamit heads franchises of Dominoes Pizza and Hot Breads.

Shamit also looks after the chain store 'Monday to Sunday'

Shobhana is a close family friend of Scindias.

Late Madhavrao Scindia was a Minister from the INC (Congress) party.

Jyotiraditya Scindia is Madhavrao's son.

Jyotiraditya is a MP from the INC (Congress) party.

Karan Thapar writes a weekly column in Hindustan Times.

Vir Sanghvi writes two columns 'Counter Point' and 'Rude Food'

Barkha Dutt writes the column 'Third Eye'

Sonal Kalra is a editor of HT City a supplement of Hindustan Times
and writes a column.

- Joseph Bain D'Souza was CEO of a housing project in which Mrinal
Gore, PB Samant and Suresh Narvekar were trustees.
- N. Ram was a founder of Students Federation of India, CPI(M)'s
student wing.
- N. Ram's niece is married to Dayanidhi Maran.
- Joseph D'Souza is the head of All India Christian Council.
- Dalit Freedom Network operates out of a church in Colorado. Melody
Divine is part of DFN and Melody Divine works for Arizona
Congressman Trent Franks.
- Joseph D'Souza is listed in Pat Robertson's 700 club, a group for
fundamentalist Christians.
- Dalit Freedom Network is a member of the Evangelical Council for
Financial Accountability.

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 8:42 am
From: "harmony"


jai maharaj ji:
thank you for posting this very valuable message.

since secular 3mc*2 in active co-operation with daroowala and tambakuwalas
and beer belly hunter are trying very hard to get people drunk to make big
bucks, here is my message for all to be safe:

pls do not drink and drive this new year. actually, avoid driving all
together if you can as there are going to be a lots of drunks who, the
history shows, will be driving, endangering many lives.

remember a few things:
- deaths and debilitating injury must not be the reason to have a sobering
effect on you to teach you the lesson of dangers of drinking.
- this is a kirastani new year; you don't really need to celebrate, not by
risking your life any way. remember, kirastanism's bible wants idol
worshippers dead. that's the reason jesus turned hindu water into wine.
- your hindu new year started several weeks back; you celebrated with
sweets, not with daroo - (ok, daroowala kerala may an exception where hindus
are a trapped by 3m)
- drinking daroo is not celebrating. (and you don't need ram sena to tell
you that.)
- kirastanis are possessive about their christman and are wont to say mery
kismuss. you can be generous and say, "terry hee sahee".

i am taking time out of my vacation to post this important message. pls be
safe.

i hope hunter will have a new year resolution for eschewing alcohol in favor
of buttermilk.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20091230MYYe3c3643j0QY6QA15gcO8@PhJ94...
> Forwarded message from http://ketscool.wordpress.com
>
> Know your sec(sick)ular Main Stream Media Personalities!
>
> By Ketan Thakkar
> December 17, 2009
>
> Until recently, I was under assumption that whatever that are
> telecast in TV and Newspaper are real and truth until I watched the
> biased news on CNN IBN channel on Malegaon blast case.Sadhvi Pragya
> singh was suspected for alleged involvement in these blasts.
> Lt.Colonel Purohit of Indian Army was also suspected in this.All the
> 24X7 channels were busy telecasting their own views and opinions on
> their so called secular channels. CNN IBN went one step further and
> invented a new term "Hindu terrorism". It said Hindu terrorists use
> "Hindu bombs". Do bombs have religion? It should be noted that Sadhvi
> Pragya was not proven guilty and the ATS did not find any evidence
> for the alleged involvement of Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Lt. Colonel
> Purohit in the blasts. So the Maharashtra ATS, by the order of Sonia
> led congress was insisting Narcotic tests on Sadhvi Pragya Singh.By
> this time much of the damage has been done to Hindus and Hinduism and
> Indian Army. Newspapers in Pakistan and Dubhai ran front page news on
> this incident as if they were waiting for this moment. While the
> charges made on Lt. Colonel Purohit proven false, the media did not
> go overboard and declare Colonel Purohit as innocent. On the other
> hand the CNN-IBN has been running special news on Sonia's recently
> acquired Indian nationality. Will the CNN-IBN care to ask Antonia
> Maino, where she was, during 1971 war. Why she took more than 15
> years to apply for Indian citizenship? Why she lied about her
> studies? Why did she not tell that she was bar girl in England? How
> come, the prime minister's son Rajiv gandhi fell in love with a bar
> girl? Do they care to ask these questions?
>
> I believe in the basic principle of Journalism. That is "Facts are
> sacred but Opinions may vary from person to person!!". Whoever are in
> position to influence people's thinking and their thoughts have huge
> moral responsibility and they should have national interest as their
> top most priority. But what is happening in India is, all 24X7
> channels have become sycophants of Sonia and her Congress party. Not
> only news channels but also famous writers, well educated
> secularists, Magsaysay award winners are also averse to the word
> Hindu, Hindustan or India. Here below are the details on the News
> Channels, Papers in India and people who are governing them. Source :
> India Forum
>
> Suzanna Arundhati Roy is niece of Prannoy Roy (CEO of NDTV)
>
> Prannoy Roy married to Radhika Roy
>
> Radhika Roy is sister of Brinda Karat (CPI(M))
>
> Brinda Karat married to Prakash Karat (CPI(M) -- General Secretary)
>
> CPI(M)'s senior member of Politburo and Parliamentary Group Leader is
> Sitaram Yechury.
>
> Sitaram Yechury is married to Seema Chisthi.
>
> Seema Chisthi is the Resident Editor of Indian Express
>
> Burkha Dutt works at NDTV
>
> Rajdeep Sardesai was Managing Editor at NDTV
>
> Rajdeep Sardesai married to Sagrika Ghose
>
> Sagarika Ghose is daughter of Bhaskar Ghose.
>
> Bhaskar Ghose was Director General of Doordarshan.
>
> Sagarika Ghose's aunt is Ruma Pal.
>
> Ruma Pal is former justice of Supreme Court.
>
> Sagarika Ghose's another aunt is Arundhati Ghose.
>
> Arundhati Ghose was India's permanent representative/ambassador to
> United Nations.
>
>
> Dilip D'Souza was member of PIPFD
>
> Dilip D'Souza's father was Joseph Bain D'Souza.
>
> J.B.D'Souza was former Maharastra Chief Seccretary and activist.
>
> Teesta Setalva member of PIPFD
>
> Teesta Setalvad married to Javed Anand
>
> Teesta and Javed run Sabrang Communications.
>
> Javed Anand is General Secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy {
> ?? }
>
> Javed Akhtar is spokesperson for Muslims for Secular Democracy
>
> Javed Akhtar married to Shabana Azmi
>
>
> Karan Thapar owns ITV
>
> ITV produces shows for BBC
>
> Karan Thapar's father was General Pran Nath Thapar COAS during 1962
> war, when India lost under his watch.
>
> Karan Thapar was very good friend of Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali
> Zardari.
>
> Benazir Bhutto was Pakistan's Prime Minister.
>
> Benazir Bhutto's father was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
>
> Z.A.Bhutto served as Pakistan's President.
>
> A.A.Zardar is the current Pakistani's President.
>
> Karan Thapar's Mama was married to Nayantara Sahgal.
>
> Nayantar Sahgal is daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit.
>
> Vijayalakshmi Pandit was sister of Jawharlal Nehru.
>
>
> Medha Patkar is a leading spokesperson for Narmada Bacho Andolan.
>
> NBA was helped by Patrick McCully of International Rivers (formerly
> Internal Rivers Network.)
>
> Angana Chatterjee was on the board of IRN
>
> Dipti Bhatnagar was an Intern/Volunteer at IRN.
>
> Dipti Bhatnagar is an activist at NBA.
>
> Dr. Angana Chatterjee part of PROXSA
>
> PROXSA mother-ship of FOIL
>
> ASHA endorsed by FOIL
>
> Sandeep Pandey co-founder of Asha for education (ASHA)
>
> Dr. Angana Chatterjee is married to Richard Shapiro
>
> Richard Shapiro is Director and Associate Professor of the Grad.
> Anthropology Prgm at CIIS
>
> Shubh Mathur co-wrote a letter with Angana on 'Humanitarian Crisis in
> J&K'
>
> Biju Matthew is co-founder of FOIL.
>
> Vijay Prasad is co-founder of FOIL.
>
> Vijay Prasa co-authored with Angana Chatterjee and wrote against
> IDRF.
>
> ASHA has association with AID
>
> AID works with FOSA
>
> FOSA started by a Pakistani -- Ali Hasan Cemendtaur.
>
> Amitava Kumar associated with FOIL
>
> FOIL & FOSA opposed California Text Book Edits.
>
> California Text Book Edits was opposed by Michael Witzel.
>
> M.Witzel is Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University.
>
>
> Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari.
>
> Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based
> in Mumbai.
>
> Khalid Ansari is Chairman of M.C.Media Ltd.
>
> M.C.Media Ltd. has a join-venture with BBC for FM radio brodcasting.
>
> Khalid Ansari's father was Abdul Hameed Ansari.
>
> A.H.Ansari was a freedom fighter and active Congressman.
>
> Dr.John Dayal worked as a journalist with the N.Delhi edition of Mid-
> Day.
>
>
> Narasimhan Ram is the Editor-in-Chief of 'The Hindu'.
>
> N.Ram's first wife was Susan.
>
> Susan, an Irish, was in charge of Oxford University Press
> publications in India.
>
> N.Ram and Susan's daughter is Vidya Ram.
>
> Vidya Ram is a journalist.
>
> N.Ram is now married to Mariam.
>
> N.Ram, Jennifer Arul and K.M.Roy participated in closed door Catholic
> Bishops Conference of India in Thrissur, Kerala.
>
> Jennifer Arul is the Resident Editor and Bureau Chief in South India
> for NDTV.
>
> Jennifer Arul is Chief Operating Office for Astro Awani -- Indonesian
> news and information channel.
>
> K.M.Roy was a reporter in 'The Hindu'
>
> K.M.Roy is the General Editor of the group of the 'Mangalam'
> Publications.
>
> Mangalam Group of Publications was started by M.C.Varghese
>
> K.M.Roy received the 'All India Catholic Union Lifetime Award'
>
> All India Catholic Union's National Vice President is Dr.John Dayal.
>
> Dr.John Dayal is also Secretary General of All India Christian
> Council (AICC)
>
> AICC's President is Dr. Joseph D'souza
>
> Dr. Joseph D'souza founded Dalit Freedom Network (USA)
>
> Dr.Joseph D'Souza participated in the inaugural Religious Freedom Day
>
> The Religious Freedom Day was attended by former Republican Sentor
> Rick Santorum
>
> AICC claims Confederation of SC/ST Organizations (India) as a sister
> organization.
>
> AICC claims Christian Solidarity Worldwide (UK) as a sister
> organization.
>
> AICC claims Release International (UK) as a sister organization.
>
> Release International states it supplies bibles and literature to
> meet the need of growth and evangelism.
>
> Dalit Freedom Network's partner's with Operation Mobilization India.
>
> OM India's South India Regional Director is Kumar Swamy
>
> Kumar Swamy is the State President of Communal Harmony Committee.
>
> Kumar Swamy serves with Karnataka State Human Rights Commission.
>
> OM India's North India Regional Director is Moses Parmar.
>
> Moses Parmar serves as North India Public Relations officer of the
> All India Christian Council (AICC)
>
> OM seeks to plant and strengthen churches in areas of the world where
>Christ is least known.
>
> OM ministries work with Dalit-Bahujan people in India.
>
> Operation Mercy Charitable Company (OMCC) grew out of OM India
>
> OMCC works with Dalit Freedom Network.
>
> DFN has Dr. Kancha Illaiah on its Advisory Board.
>
> Dr. Kancha Illaiah is a Professor in Osmania University, Hyderbad.
>
> DFN has William Armstrong on its Advisory Board.
>
> William Armstrong is a former US Senator from Colarado (Republican).
>
> William Armstrong is currently the President of Colorado Christian
> University.
>
> Colorado Christian University's one of the strategic objective is to
> share the love of Christ around the World.
>
> DFN has Udit Raj on its Advisory Board.
>
> Udit Raj claims Joseph Pitts as a great friend of India.
>
> Joseph Pitts is a Republican US Congressman from Pennsylvannia.
>
> Joseph Pitts sent a letter to Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State
> -USA, requesting USA to deny visa to N.Modi.
>
> Joseph Pitts has led a Congressional delegation to Pakistan & India.
>
> Joseph Pitts is Founder and Co-Chairman of the 'Kashmir Forum'.
>
> Joseph Pitts along with Congressman John Conyers introduced
> legislation condemning actions of N.Modi.
>
> John Conyers is Congressman from Michigan's 14th congressional
> district.
>
> The 14th district contains Dearbon, a major city.
>
> Dearbon has the largest Arab Americans for a city of its size.
>
> Udit Raj is member of National Integration Council, Government of
> India.
>
> Udit Raj is National Chairman of Buddha Education Foundation.
>
> Udit Raj is National Chairman of All India Confederation of SC/ST
> Organizations.
>
> Udit Raj leads Dalit International Foundation
>
> Udit Raj leads Lord Buddha Club.
>
> Udit Raj was part of an international Steering Committee on Kashmir
>
> Majid Tramboo promoted the Steering Committee.
>
> DFN has Baroness Caroline Cox on its Advisory Board.
>
> Baroness Caroline Cox is Deputy Speaker, House of Lords, England.
>
>
> Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy
>
> Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar
>
>
> Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul
>
> Nadira Alvi, a journalist, is sister of recently assassinated Maj Gen
> Amir Faisal Alvi, the ex-chief of Pakistan's elite SSG
>
>
> "Resalat" is a Tehran-based Persian daily.
>
> "Ettela'at" is another Tehran-based Persian daily.
>
> "Resallat" and "Ettela'at"signed MoU with "Siyasat" and "Munif"
>
> Siyasat and Munif are Hyderbad, Andhra Pradesh based dailies.
>
> Toseeh is another Persian daily.
>
> Toseeh has tied up with Vaarta.
>
> Vaarta is one of the dailies from A.G.A.Publications Pvt Ltd.
>
> A.G.A Publications Pvt Ltd is one of the companies in Sanghi Group
>
> Sanghi Group was co-promoted by Gireesh Sanghi with his brothers.
>
> Gireesh Sanghi is Congress M.P, Rajaya Sabha
>
> Gireesh Sanghi is All India Vaish Federation National President.
>
> Mahendra Mohan Gupta is on the Advisory Board of AIVF
>
> Mahendra Mohan Gupta is Chairman of Dainik Jagran Group
>
>
> Ramoji Group is headed by Ramoji Rao
>
> Ramoji Rao is Founder & Chairman of Eenadu
>
> Eenadu is the largest Telugu news daily in Andhra Pradesh.
>
> Ramoji Group also owns ETV Network.
>
> ETV Network produces content in Telugu, Bangla, Marathi, Kannada,
> Oriya, Gujarati, Urdu & Hindi.
>
> Ramoji is reported to be close to Chandra Babu Naidu and supported of
> Telugu Desam Party.
>
> Ushodaya Enterprises Pvt. Ltd's parent company is Ramoji Group.
>
> Blackstone Group is reported to have invested Rs600 crore in UEL.
>
>
> Deccan Chronicle Holdings Ltd brings out The Deccan Chronicle
> newspaper.
>
> DCHL also brings out "Andhra Bhoomi" a telugu newspaper.
>
> DCHL also brings out "Asian Age".
>
> DCHL became a publishing parter of 'The New York Times'.
>
> DCHL began publishing 'The International Herald Tribune'
>
> T.Venkatram Reddy is the Chairman of DCHL.
>
> T.Venkatram Reddy is fromer MP, Rajhya Sabha from Congress.
>
> M.J.Akbar was Editor-in-Chief of Deccan Chronicle and Asian Age.
>
> M.J.Akbar is Founder and Chairman of the fortnightly the Covert.
>
> M.J. Akbar worked at 'Times of India', 'Sunday' & 'The Telegraph'
>
> M.J.Akbar was an Congress MLA from 1989 to 1991.
>
> M.J.Akbar joined The Brookings Institution, Washington in 2006, as a
> Visiting Fellow on U.S. Policy Towards the Islamic World.
>
> M.J.Akbar was a member of the 'Forum of Islamic Scholars and
> Intellectual' held in Makkha al-Mukaramma in 2005.
>
> M.J.Akbar's wife is Mallika Joseph.
>
> Mallika Joseph worked at Times of India.
>
>
> Y.S.Rajasekhara Reddy is the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh.
>
> YSR Reddy is from the Congress party (INC).
>
> YSR Reddy's father, Raja Reddy, setup a degree college and a
> Polytechnic in Pulivendula.
>
> YSR Reddy has said that his one year study at Andhra Loyola College
> (ALC), a Jesuit institution, influenced him so much that he handed
> over the Pulivendula colleges to the Loyola Group.
>
> The YS family has established several educational institutions in
> Andhra Pradesh.
>
> YSR Reddy's daughter is Sharmila.
>
> Sharmila married Anil Kumar, Anil Kumar converted to Christianity
> after the marriage.
>
> Anil Kumar set up "Anil World Evangelism" and is an active
> Evangelist.
>
> YSR Reddy's son is YS Jagan Mohan Reddy.
>
> YS Jagan is a youth Congress Leader.
>
> YS Jagan is Chairman of Jagati Publications Pvt. Ltd.
>
> Bhumna Karunakara Reddy is close to YSR Reddy.
>
> Karunakara Reddy is the Chairman of Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam.
>
> JPPL publishes the newspaper Sakshi.
>
> Chandra Babu Naidu has claimed that Lanco group was forced to invest
> in JPPL.
>
> L. Sridhar is alleged to have made the investment from Lanco Group.
>
> L Sridhar is Lanco Infratech's Vice Chairman
>
> L Sridhar's brother is L.Rajagopal.
>
> L.Rajagopal joined Congress in 2003.
>
> L Rajagopal is the son-in-law of P.Upendra.
>
> P.Upendra is a former Minister from Congress.
>
> Lanco Group's Chairman is L. Rajagopal
>
>
> Andhra Prabha is a telugu newspaper started in 1938.
>
> Andhra Prabha is owned by The New Indian Express Group.
>
>
> Andhra Jyothi is a telugu newspaper.
>
> Andhra Jyothi's Managing Director is Vemuri Radhakrishna.
>
>
> SUN TV Network is owned by Kalanidhi Maran.
>
> Kalanidhi Maran is the Chairman & Managing Director of SUN TV
> Network.
>
> SUN TV network owns: Sun TV, Gemini TV, Teja TV, Surya TV, Kiran TV,
> Udaya TV, Surjo TV among other channels.
>
> Kalanidhi Maran owns the tamil daily 'Dinakaran'.
>
> Dinakaran was started by a former DMK Minister K.P.Kandasamy.
>
> Kalanidhi Maran's brother is Dayanidhi Maran.
>
> Dayanidhi Maran was Minister of Communications and IT in the UPA
> government.
>
> Kalanidhi Maran's father was Murasoli Maran.
>
> Murasoli Maran was a Union Minister from the DMK party.
>
> Murasoli Maran edited a tamil daily 'Murasoli'.
>
> Murasoli Maran was an editor to 'The Rising Sun' a English weekly.
>
> Murasoli Maran as a publisher published the following tamil
> magazines: Kungumam, Muththaram, Vannathirai & Sumangali.
>
> Murasoli Maran's uncle is M.Karunanidhi.
>
> M.Karunanidhi is Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, from the DMK party.
>
> M.Karunanidhi launched Kalaignar TV in 2007.
>
> M.K.Azhagiri owns Kalaignar TV.
>
> M.K.Azhagiri is M.Karunanidhi's son.
>
> M.K.Stalin is another son of the M.Karunanidhi..
>
> M.K.Stalin was named after Joseph Stalin.
>
> Joseph Stalin was the authoritarian leader of the Soviet Union.
>
> M.K.Stalin is the Minister for Rural Development and Local
> Administration in Tamil Nadu.
>
> Kanimozhi is one of the daughters of M.Karunanidhi.
>
> Kanimozhi was a sub-editor for the 'The Hindu'.
>
> Kanimohi was Editor in Charge of 'Kungumam' a tamil weekly.
>
> Kanimozhi became a Rajya Sabha member in 2007.
>
> Kanimozhi conducted programs in SUN TV and Vijay TV.
>
> Kanimozhi's second husband G.Aravindan is Singapore based Tamil
> literary figure.
>
>
> Dina Thanthi a tamil daily was founded bu Si.Pa.Aditanar.
>
> Aditanar's second son is Sivanthi Athithan.
>
> Sivanthi Athithan owns Dina Thanthi.
>
> Aditanar had launced the tamil evening daily 'Malai Murasu'.
>
> Aditanar set up Malar Publications Ltd.
>
> Malar Publications Ltd. Brings out the tamil evening newspaper Malai
> Malar.
>
> Balasubramanian Adityan son of Sivanthi Athithan managers Malar
> Publications Ltd.
>
> B.Adityan set up 'Air Media Network Pvt Ltd' (AMN)
>
> AMN is into cable distribution, content productions and broadcasting.
>
> AMN owns AMN TV
>
> AMN has produced content for FM radio, All India Radio, Doordarshan,
> Vijay TV.
>
>
> Dina Mani is a tamil newspaper.
>
> Dina Mani is owned by The New Indian Express Group. (NIEG)
>
> NIEG owns Kannadaprabha, Andhraprabha, Malaylamvarikha, Indiavarta
> and Expressbuzz.
>
> NIEG also owns Cinemaexpress & Tamilanexpress
>
>
> STAR Vijay TV is a tamil TV channel.
>
> Vijay TV is owned by STAR TV
>
> STAR TV is owned by News Corporation based in Hong Kong.
>
> News Corporation is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
>
> Fox Entertainment Group is a subsidiary of News Corporation.
>
> FEG owns Fox News Channel, in USA.
>
> Fox News is a conservative, pro-church Republican Party channel in US
>
> News Corporation owns the The Wall Street Journal
>
> Jaya TV is a tamil TV channel.
>
> Jaya TV is owned by Jaya Network.
>
> Jaya Network is owned by J.Jayalalitha
>
> Jayalalitha was the former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu (AIADMK
> party)
>
> Makkal TV is owned by Makkal Tholaikatchi
>
>
> Act Now for Harmony and Democracy's (ANHAD) Founding and Managing
> Trustee is Shabnam Hashmi
>
> Shabnam's father was a freedom fighter.
>
> Shabnam went to USSR on a cultural exchange scholarship for six
> years.
>
> Shabham is married to Gauhar Raza.
>
> KN Panikkar is a Founding trustee of ANHAD
>
> Panikkar is an Indian Marxist Historian.
>
> Panikkar was the Vice Chancellor of Sree Sankarcharya Sanskrit
> University, Kalady, Kerala.
>
> Panikkar received Homi Bhabha Senior Fellowship.
>
> Panikkar was awarded Padma Bhushan.
>
> Harsh Mander is a Founding trustee of ANHAD
>
> Harsh Mander is a Human Rights activist, author and was in the IAS.
>
> Harsh Mander was close to Ajit Jogi
>
> Harsh Mander, born into Sikh faith, was in-charge of the relief camps
> in Indore during the 1984 riots.
>
> Harsh Mander served as Managing Director of SC/ST Finance
> Corporation.
>
> Harsh Mander was the Director of ActionAid India.
>
> Ajit Jogi was the Chief Minister of Chhatisgarh.
>
> Ajit Jogi is from the Congress party (INC).
>
> It is claimed that after Ajit Jogi, a tribal Christian became the CM
> the rate of Christian conversions has gone up.
>
> Harsh Mander received the 2002 "Rev. M.A.Thomas National Human Rights
> Award"
>
> Rev M.A.Thomas National Human Rights Award was awarded by "Vigil
> India Movement.
>
> Shubha Mudgal is a trustee of ANHAD
>
> Shubha's parents Skand and Jaya Gupta were professors of English
> literature at Allahabad University.
>
> Shubha's grand-father Prof. P.C.Gupta was also a professor at
> Allahabad University.
>
> Shubha's first husband was Justice Mukul Mudgal of Delhi High Court.
>
> Shubha is currently married to Aneesh Pradan, a tabla player.
>
> Shubha received Padma Shri.
>
> Shubha has received several awards in the field of music.
>
> Kamla Bhasin is a trustee of ANHAD
>
> Kamla is an Indian feminist.
>
> Kamla was a lecturer in the Orientation Centre of the German
> Foundation for Developing Countries, Bad Honnef, West Germany.
>
> Kamla was the Development Secretary of Seva Mandir, Udaipur.
>
> Saeed Akhtar Mirza is a trustee of ANHAD
>
> Saeed Mirza is a writer and director in Hindi films and television.
>
> Saeed Mirza's father is Akhtar Mirza
>
> Akhtar Mirza was a noted film script writer.
>
>
> Asianet Communications Limited (ACL) has a majority stake in Asianet
> TV.
>
> ACL is owned by Jupiter Entertainment Ventures Limited (JEVL).
>
> JEVL is a subsidiary of Jupiter Capitals Ltd.
>
> The other media outlets of ACL are: Asianet News, Asianet Plus, Best
> FM 95, Asianet Suvarana, Suvarna News, Asianet Sitara and Sitara
> News.
>
> Rajeev Chandrasekhar is the Chairman & Editor-in-chief.
>
> Rajeev Chandrasekar entered Rajya Sabha in 2006.
>
> Rajeev Chandrasekar's uncle is M.K.Narayanan
>
> M.K.Narayanan is National Security Advisor
>
> M.K.Narayanan headed the Intelligence Bureau from 1987 to 1990.
>
>
> Malayalam daily, Mathrubhumi, is owned by M P Virendrakumar
>
> Virendrakumar is a MP through Janata Dal (Secular), from Kerala
>
> In Kerala, Deva Gowda's Janata Dal (Secular) party is a constituent
> of Left Democratic Front
>
> Latest Editor of Mathrubhumi is Kesava Menon
>
> Kesava Menon was the Associate Editor of The Hindu before taking up
> this position
>
>
> Shashi Tharoor is an Indian Diplomat.
>
> Shashi is the son of late Chandran Tharoor.
>
> Chandran was a journalist working for Amrita Bazar Patrika of
> Calcutta.
>
> Chandran headed "The Statesman" in 1959.
>
> Shashi Tharoor is going to contest as INC (Congress) candidate in
> 2009.
>
> Ishaan and Kanishk are twin sons of Shashi.
>
> Ishaan lives in Hong Kong and works for "Time" magazine.
>
> Kanishk lives in London and works for "OpenDemocracy".
>
> Shobha Tharoor Srinivasan is a sister of Shashi.
>
> Smita Tharoor is another sister of Shashi.
>
> Ragini Tharoor Srinivasan is daughter of Shobha.
>
> Ragini is the editor of "India Currents".
>
> Shobha writes in "India Currents"
>
> India Currents is an Indian American monthly.
>
> Shashi's first wife was Tilottama Mukherji from Kolkata.
>
> Tilottama was/is a journalist and scholar.
>
> Sahshi's second wife is Christ Giles, a Canadian.
>
> Christa is Deputy Secretary of the United Nations Disarmament
> Commission.
>
> Mukundan Unni was Shashi's maternal uncle.
>
> Tharoor Parameswar was Chandran Tharoor's elder brother.
>
> Parameswar was the founder publisher of the Indian edition of
> "Reader's Digest".
>
> Param resurrected & presided the Advertising Club of Bombay.
>
> Param was also the Advertising Manager of Amrita Bazar Patrika.
>
>
> Shobhana Bhartia is the Chairperson and Editorial Director of
> Hindustan Times group
>
> Shobhana is the daughter of KK Birla; grand daughter of GD Birla.
>
> KK Birla joined INC (Congress) party in 1984.
>
> KK Birla was later elected Rajya Sabha member in 1984.
>
> Shobhana is married to Shyam Sunder Bhartia
>
> Shyam is the Chariman of Jubliant Organosys Ltd, a Pharma company
>
> Shyam is the son of late Mohan Lal Bhartia.
>
> Shamit Bhartia and Priyavrat Bhartia are their sons
>
> Shamit is a Director at the Hindustan Times group.
>
> Shobhana was nominated for Rajya Sabha in 2006.
>
> Shobhana is politically affiliated to INC (Congress).
>
> She was nominated by UPA headed by Sonia Gandhi.
>
> Shobhana was a 2005 Padma Shree award. This was after UPA formed the
> government in 2004.
>
> Priyavrat is a Director at the Hindustan Times group.
>
> Shamit heads franchises of Dominoes Pizza and Hot Breads.
>
> Shamit also looks after the chain store 'Monday to Sunday'
>
> Shobhana is a close family friend of Scindias.
>
> Late Madhavrao Scindia was a Minister from the INC (Congress) party.
>
> Jyotiraditya Scindia is Madhavrao's son.
>
> Jyotiraditya is a MP from the INC (Congress) party.
>
> Karan Thapar writes a weekly column in Hindustan Times.
>
> Vir Sanghvi writes two columns 'Counter Point' and 'Rude Food'
>
> Barkha Dutt writes the column 'Third Eye'
>
> Sonal Kalra is a editor of HT City a supplement of Hindustan Times
> and writes a column.
>
> - Joseph Bain D'Souza was CEO of a housing project in which Mrinal
> Gore, PB Samant and Suresh Narvekar were trustees.
> - N. Ram was a founder of Students Federation of India, CPI(M)'s
> student wing.
> - N. Ram's niece is married to Dayanidhi Maran.
> - Joseph D'Souza is the head of All India Christian Council.
> - Dalit Freedom Network operates out of a church in Colorado. Melody
> Divine is part of DFN and Melody Divine works for Arizona
> Congressman Trent Franks.
> - Joseph D'Souza is listed in Pat Robertson's 700 club, a group for
> fundamentalist Christians.
> - Dalit Freedom Network is a member of the Evangelical Council for
> Financial Accountability.
>
> Filed under: Know our Sec(sick)ular Media -- ketscool @ 1:42 am
>
> More at:
> http://ketscool.wordpress.com/category/media/know-our-secsickular-media/
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:15 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dhanyavaad for taking time out of your vacation to post a caution
about driving on New Year's Eve, harmony ji. Allow me to extend it
to all holidays -- just look at what happened to Tiger Woods on the
day after Thanksgiving, and he drove only a few yards.

Speaking of holidays, Obama today blocked the better part of a
theater-plex on Oahu for his family to watch "Avatar".

Speaking of vacations, Rush Limbaugh during his had a medical event,
was rushed to Queen's Hospital yesterday, but is resting comfortably
today, much to the distress of the liberals.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b3cd463$0$5339$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> jai maharaj ji:
> thank you for posting this very valuable message.
>
> since secular 3mc*2 in active co-operation with daroowala and tambakuwalas
> and beer belly hunter are trying very hard to get people drunk to make big
> bucks, here is my message for all to be safe:
>
> pls do not drink and drive this new year. actually, avoid driving all
> together if you can as there are going to be a lots of drunks who, the
> history shows, will be driving, endangering many lives.
>
> remember a few things:
> - deaths and debilitating injury must not be the reason to have a sobering
> effect on you to teach you the lesson of dangers of drinking.
> - this is a kirastani new year; you don't really need to celebrate, not by
> risking your life any way. remember, kirastanism's bible wants idol
> worshippers dead. that's the reason jesus turned hindu water into wine.
> - your hindu new year started several weeks back; you celebrated with
> sweets, not with daroo - (ok, daroowala kerala may an exception where hindus
> are a trapped by 3m)
> - drinking daroo is not celebrating. (and you don't need ram sena to tell
> you that.)
> - kirastanis are possessive about their christman and are wont to say mery
> kismuss. you can be generous and say, "terry hee sahee".
>
> i am taking time out of my vacation to post this important message. pls be
> safe.
>
> i hope hunter will have a new year resolution for eschewing alcohol in favor
> of buttermilk.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Forwarded message from http://ketscool.wordpress.com
> >
> > Know your sec(sick)ular Main Stream Media Personalities!
> >
> > By Ketan Thakkar
> > December 17, 2009
> >
> > Until recently, I was under assumption that whatever that are
> > telecast in TV and Newspaper are real and truth until I watched the
> > biased news on CNN IBN channel on Malegaon blast case.Sadhvi Pragya
> > singh was suspected for alleged involvement in these blasts.
> > Lt.Colonel Purohit of Indian Army was also suspected in this.All the
> > 24X7 channels were busy telecasting their own views and opinions on
> > their so called secular channels. CNN IBN went one step further and
> > invented a new term "Hindu terrorism". It said Hindu terrorists use
> > "Hindu bombs". Do bombs have religion? It should be noted that Sadhvi
> > Pragya was not proven guilty and the ATS did not find any evidence
> > for the alleged involvement of Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Lt. Colonel
> > Purohit in the blasts. So the Maharashtra ATS, by the order of Sonia
> > led congress was insisting Narcotic tests on Sadhvi Pragya Singh.By
> > this time much of the damage has been done to Hindus and Hinduism and
> > Indian Army. Newspapers in Pakistan and Dubhai ran front page news on
> > this incident as if they were waiting for this moment. While the
> > charges made on Lt. Colonel Purohit proven false, the media did not
> > go overboard and declare Colonel Purohit as innocent. On the other
> > hand the CNN-IBN has been running special news on Sonia's recently
> > acquired Indian nationality. Will the CNN-IBN care to ask Antonia
> > Maino, where she was, during 1971 war. Why she took more than 15
> > years to apply for Indian citizenship? Why she lied about her
> > studies? Why did she not tell that she was bar girl in England? How
> > come, the prime minister's son Rajiv gandhi fell in love with a bar
> > girl? Do they care to ask these questions?
> >
> > I believe in the basic principle of Journalism. That is "Facts are
> > sacred but Opinions may vary from person to person!!". Whoever are in
> > position to influence people's thinking and their thoughts have huge
> > moral responsibility and they should have national interest as their
> > top most priority. But what is happening in India is, all 24X7
> > channels have become sycophants of Sonia and her Congress party. Not
> > only news channels but also famous writers, well educated
> > secularists, Magsaysay award winners are also averse to the word
> > Hindu, Hindustan or India. Here below are the details on the News
> > Channels, Papers in India and people who are governing them. Source :
> > India Forum
> >
> > Suzanna Arundhati Roy is niece of Prannoy Roy (CEO of NDTV)
> >
> > Prannoy Roy married to Radhika Roy
> >
> > Radhika Roy is sister of Brinda Karat (CPI(M))
> >
> > Brinda Karat married to Prakash Karat (CPI(M) -- General Secretary)
> >
> > CPI(M)'s senior member of Politburo and Parliamentary Group Leader is
> > Sitaram Yechury.
> >
> > Sitaram Yechury is married to Seema Chisthi.
> >
> > Seema Chisthi is the Resident Editor of Indian Express
> >
> > Burkha Dutt works at NDTV
> >
> > Rajdeep Sardesai was Managing Editor at NDTV
> >
> > Rajdeep Sardesai married to Sagrika Ghose
> >
> > Sagarika Ghose is daughter of Bhaskar Ghose.
> >
> > Bhaskar Ghose was Director General of Doordarshan.
> >
> > Sagarika Ghose's aunt is Ruma Pal.
> >
> > Ruma Pal is former justice of Supreme Court.
> >
> > Sagarika Ghose's another aunt is Arundhati Ghose.
> >
> > Arundhati Ghose was India's permanent representative/ambassador to
> > United Nations.
> >
> >
> > Dilip D'Souza was member of PIPFD
> >
> > Dilip D'Souza's father was Joseph Bain D'Souza.
> >
> > J.B.D'Souza was former Maharastra Chief Seccretary and activist.
> >
> > Teesta Setalva member of PIPFD
> >
> > Teesta Setalvad married to Javed Anand
> >
> > Teesta and Javed run Sabrang Communications.
> >
> > Javed Anand is General Secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy {
> > ?? }
> >
> > Javed Akhtar is spokesperson for Muslims for Secular Democracy
> >
> > Javed Akhtar married to Shabana Azmi
> >
> >
> > Karan Thapar owns ITV
> >
> > ITV produces shows for BBC
> >
> > Karan Thapar's father was General Pran Nath Thapar COAS during 1962
> > war, when India lost under his watch.
> >
> > Karan Thapar was very good friend of Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali
> > Zardari.
> >
> > Benazir Bhutto was Pakistan's Prime Minister.
> >
> > Benazir Bhutto's father was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
> >
> > Z.A.Bhutto served as Pakistan's President.
> >
> > A.A.Zardar is the current Pakistani's President.
> >
> > Karan Thapar's Mama was married to Nayantara Sahgal.
> >
> > Nayantar Sahgal is daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit.
> >
> > Vijayalakshmi Pandit was sister of Jawharlal Nehru.
> >
> >
> > Medha Patkar is a leading spokesperson for Narmada Bacho Andolan.
> >
> > NBA was helped by Patrick McCully of International Rivers (formerly
> > Internal Rivers Network.)
> >
> > Angana Chatterjee was on the board of IRN
> >
> > Dipti Bhatnagar was an Intern/Volunteer at IRN.
> >
> > Dipti Bhatnagar is an activist at NBA.
> >
> > Dr. Angana Chatterjee part of PROXSA
> >
> > PROXSA mother-ship of FOIL
> >
> > ASHA endorsed by FOIL
> >
> > Sandeep Pandey co-founder of Asha for education (ASHA)
> >
> > Dr. Angana Chatterjee is married to Richard Shapiro
> >
> > Richard Shapiro is Director and Associate Professor of the Grad.
> > Anthropology Prgm at CIIS
> >
> > Shubh Mathur co-wrote a letter with Angana on 'Humanitarian Crisis in
> > J&K'
> >
> > Biju Matthew is co-founder of FOIL.
> >
> > Vijay Prasad is co-founder of FOIL.
> >
> > Vijay Prasa co-authored with Angana Chatterjee and wrote against
> > IDRF.
> >
> > ASHA has association with AID
> >
> > AID works with FOSA
> >
> > FOSA started by a Pakistani -- Ali Hasan Cemendtaur.
> >
> > Amitava Kumar associated with FOIL
> >
> > FOIL & FOSA opposed California Text Book Edits.
> >
> > California Text Book Edits was opposed by Michael Witzel.
> >
> > M.Witzel is Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University.
> >
> >
> > Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari.
> >
> > Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based
> > in Mumbai.
> >
> > Khalid Ansari is Chairman of M.C.Media Ltd.
> >
> > M.C.Media Ltd. has a join-venture with BBC for FM radio brodcasting.
> >
> > Khalid Ansari's father was Abdul Hameed Ansari.
> >
> > A.H.Ansari was a freedom fighter and active Congressman.
> >
> > Dr.John Dayal worked as a journalist with the N.Delhi edition of Mid-
> > Day.
> >
> >
> > Narasimhan Ram is the Editor-in-Chief of 'The Hindu'.
> >
> > N.Ram's first wife was Susan.
> >
> > Susan, an Irish, was in charge of Oxford University Press
> > publications in India.
> >
> > N.Ram and Susan's daughter is Vidya Ram.
> >
> > Vidya Ram is a journalist.
> >
> > N.Ram is now married to Mariam.
> >
> > N.Ram, Jennifer Arul and K.M.Roy participated in closed door Catholic
> > Bishops Conference of India in Thrissur, Kerala.
> >
> > Jennifer Arul is the Resident Editor and Bureau Chief in South India
> > for NDTV.
> >
> > Jennifer Arul is Chief Operating Office for Astro Awani -- Indonesian
> > news and information channel.
> >
> > K.M.Roy was a reporter in 'The Hindu'
> >
> > K.M.Roy is the General Editor of the group of the 'Mangalam'
> > Publications.
> >
> > Mangalam Group of Publications was started by M.C.Varghese
> >
> > K.M.Roy received the 'All India Catholic Union Lifetime Award'
> >
> > All India Catholic Union's National Vice President is Dr.John Dayal.
> >
> > Dr.John Dayal is also Secretary General of All India Christian
> > Council (AICC)
> >
> > AICC's President is Dr. Joseph D'souza
> >
> > Dr. Joseph D'souza founded Dalit Freedom Network (USA)
> >
> > Dr.Joseph D'Souza participated in the inaugural Religious Freedom Day
> >
> > The Religious Freedom Day was attended by former Republican Sentor
> > Rick Santorum
> >
> > AICC claims Confederation of SC/ST Organizations (India) as a sister
> > organization.
> >
> > AICC claims Christian Solidarity Worldwide (UK) as a sister
> > organization.
> >
> > AICC claims Release International (UK) as a sister organization.
> >
> > Release International states it supplies bibles and literature to
> > meet the need of growth and evangelism.
> >
> > Dalit Freedom Network's partner's with Operation Mobilization India.
> >
> > OM India's South India Regional Director is Kumar Swamy
> >
> > Kumar Swamy is the State President of Communal Harmony Committee.
> >
> > Kumar Swamy serves with Karnataka State Human Rights Commission.
> >
> > OM India's North India Regional Director is Moses Parmar.
> >
> > Moses Parmar serves as North India Public Relations officer of the
> > All India Christian Council (AICC)
> >
> > OM seeks to plant and strengthen churches in areas of the world where
> >Christ is least known.
> >
> > OM ministries work with Dalit-Bahujan people in India.
> >
> > Operation Mercy Charitable Company (OMCC) grew out of OM India
> >
> > OMCC works with Dalit Freedom Network.
> >
> > DFN has Dr. Kancha Illaiah on its Advisory Board.
> >
> > Dr. Kancha Illaiah is a Professor in Osmania University, Hyderbad.
> >
> > DFN has William Armstrong on its Advisory Board.
> >
> > William Armstrong is a former US Senator from Colarado (Republican).
> >
> > William Armstrong is currently the President of Colorado Christian
> > University.
> >
> > Colorado Christian University's one of the strategic objective is to
> > share the love of Christ around the World.
> >
> > DFN has Udit Raj on its Advisory Board.
> >
> > Udit Raj claims Joseph Pitts as a great friend of India.
> >
> > Joseph Pitts is a Republican US Congressman from Pennsylvannia.
> >
> > Joseph Pitts sent a letter to Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State
> > -USA, requesting USA to deny visa to N.Modi.
> >
> > Joseph Pitts has led a Congressional delegation to Pakistan & India.
> >
> > Joseph Pitts is Founder and Co-Chairman of the 'Kashmir Forum'.
> >
> > Joseph Pitts along with Congressman John Conyers introduced
> > legislation condemning actions of N.Modi.
> >
> > John Conyers is Congressman from Michigan's 14th congressional
> > district.
> >
> > The 14th district contains Dearbon, a major city.
> >
> > Dearbon has the largest Arab Americans for a city of its size.
> >
> > Udit Raj is member of National Integration Council, Government of
> > India.
> >
> > Udit Raj is National Chairman of Buddha Education Foundation.
> >
> > Udit Raj is National Chairman of All India Confederation of SC/ST
> > Organizations.
> >
> > Udit Raj leads Dalit International Foundation
> >
> > Udit Raj leads Lord Buddha Club.
> >
> > Udit Raj was part of an international Steering Committee on Kashmir
> >
> > Majid Tramboo promoted the Steering Committee.
> >
> > DFN has Baroness Caroline Cox on its Advisory Board.
> >
> > Baroness Caroline Cox is Deputy Speaker, House of Lords, England.
> >
> >
> > Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy
> >
> > Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar
> >
> >
> > Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul
> >
> > Nadira Alvi, a journalist, is sister of recently assassinated Maj Gen
> > Amir Faisal Alvi, the ex-chief of Pakistan's elite SSG
> >
> >
> > "Resalat" is a Tehran-based Persian daily.
> >
> > "Ettela'at" is another Tehran-based Persian daily.
> >
> > "Resallat" and "Ettela'at"signed MoU with "Siyasat" and "Munif"
> >
> > Siyasat and Munif are Hyderbad, Andhra Pradesh based dailies.
> >
> > Toseeh is another Persian daily.
> >
> > Toseeh has tied up with Vaarta.
> >
> > Vaarta is one of the dailies from A.G.A.Publications Pvt Ltd.
> >
> > A.G.A Publications Pvt Ltd is one of the companies in Sanghi Group
> >
> > Sanghi Group was co-promoted by Gireesh Sanghi with his brothers.
> >
> > Gireesh Sanghi is Congress M.P, Rajaya Sabha
> >
> > Gireesh Sanghi is All India Vaish Federation National President.
> >
> > Mahendra Mohan Gupta is on the Advisory Board of AIVF
> >
> > Mahendra Mohan Gupta is Chairman of Dainik Jagran Group
> >
> >
> > Ramoji Group is headed by Ramoji Rao
> >
> > Ramoji Rao is Founder & Chairman of Eenadu
> >
> > Eenadu is the largest Telugu news daily in Andhra Pradesh.
> >
> > Ramoji Group also owns ETV Network.
> >
> > ETV Network produces content in Telugu, Bangla, Marathi, Kannada,
> > Oriya, Gujarati, Urdu & Hindi.
> >
> > Ramoji is reported to be close to Chandra Babu Naidu and supported of
> > Telugu Desam Party.
> >
> > Ushodaya Enterprises Pvt. Ltd's parent company is Ramoji Group.
> >
> > Blackstone Group is reported to have invested Rs600 crore in UEL.
> >
> >
> > Deccan Chronicle Holdings Ltd brings out The Deccan Chronicle
> > newspaper.
> >
> > DCHL also brings out "Andhra Bhoomi" a telugu newspaper.
> >
> > DCHL also brings out "Asian Age".
> >
> > DCHL became a publishing parter of 'The New York Times'.
> >
> > DCHL began publishing 'The International Herald Tribune'
> >
> > T.Venkatram Reddy is the Chairman of DCHL.
> >
> > T.Venkatram Reddy is fromer MP, Rajhya Sabha from Congress.
> >
> > M.J.Akbar was Editor-in-Chief of Deccan Chronicle and Asian Age.
> >
> > M.J.Akbar is Founder and Chairman of the fortnightly the Covert.
> >
> > M.J. Akbar worked at 'Times of India', 'Sunday' & 'The Telegraph'
> >
> > M.J.Akbar was an Congress MLA from 1989 to 1991.
> >
> > M.J.Akbar joined The Brookings Institution, Washington in 2006, as a
> > Visiting Fellow on U.S. Policy Towards the Islamic World.
> >
> > M.J.Akbar was a member of the 'Forum of Islamic Scholars and
> > Intellectual' held in Makkha al-Mukaramma in 2005.
> >
> > M.J.Akbar's wife is Mallika Joseph.
> >
> > Mallika Joseph worked at Times of India.
> >
> >
> > Y.S.Rajasekhara Reddy is the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh.
> >
> > YSR Reddy is from the Congress party (INC).
> >
> > YSR Reddy's father, Raja Reddy, setup a degree college and a
> > Polytechnic in Pulivendula.
> >
> > YSR Reddy has said that his one year study at Andhra Loyola College
> > (ALC), a Jesuit institution, influenced him so much that he handed
> > over the Pulivendula colleges to the Loyola Group.
> >
> > The YS family has established several educational institutions in
> > Andhra Pradesh.
> >
> > YSR Reddy's daughter is Sharmila.
> >
> > Sharmila married Anil Kumar, Anil Kumar converted to Christianity
> > after the marriage.
> >
> > Anil Kumar set up "Anil World Evangelism" and is an active
> > Evangelist.
> >
> > YSR Reddy's son is YS Jagan Mohan Reddy.
> >
> > YS Jagan is a youth Congress Leader.
> >
> > YS Jagan is Chairman of Jagati Publications Pvt. Ltd.
> >
> > Bhumna Karunakara Reddy is close to YSR Reddy.
> >
> > Karunakara Reddy is the Chairman of Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam.
> >
> > JPPL publishes the newspaper Sakshi.
> >
> > Chandra Babu Naidu has claimed that Lanco group was forced to invest
> > in JPPL.
> >
> > L. Sridhar is alleged to have made the investment from Lanco Group.
> >
> > L Sridhar is Lanco Infratech's Vice Chairman
> >
> > L Sridhar's brother is L.Rajagopal.
> >
> > L.Rajagopal joined Congress in 2003.
> >
> > L Rajagopal is the son-in-law of P.Upendra.
> >
> > P.Upendra is a former Minister from Congress.
> >
> > Lanco Group's Chairman is L. Rajagopal
> >
> >
> > Andhra Prabha is a telugu newspaper started in 1938.
> >
> > Andhra Prabha is owned by The New Indian Express Group.
> >
> >
> > Andhra Jyothi is a telugu newspaper.
> >
> > Andhra Jyothi's Managing Director is Vemuri Radhakrishna.
> >
> >
> > SUN TV Network is owned by Kalanidhi Maran.
> >
> > Kalanidhi Maran is the Chairman & Managing Director of SUN TV
> > Network.
> >
> > SUN TV network owns: Sun TV, Gemini TV, Teja TV, Surya TV, Kiran TV,
> > Udaya TV, Surjo TV among other channels.
> >
> > Kalanidhi Maran owns the tamil daily 'Dinakaran'.
> >
> > Dinakaran was started by a former DMK Minister K.P.Kandasamy.
> >
> > Kalanidhi Maran's brother is Dayanidhi Maran.
> >
> > Dayanidhi Maran was Minister of Communications and IT in the UPA
> > government.
> >
> > Kalanidhi Maran's father was Murasoli Maran.
> >
> > Murasoli Maran was a Union Minister from the DMK party.
> >
> > Murasoli Maran edited a tamil daily 'Murasoli'.
> >
> > Murasoli Maran was an editor to 'The Rising Sun' a English weekly.
> >
> > Murasoli Maran as a publisher published the following tamil
> > magazines: Kungumam, Muththaram, Vannathirai & Sumangali.
> >
> > Murasoli Maran's uncle is M.Karunanidhi.
> >
> > M.Karunanidhi is Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, from the DMK party.
> >
> > M.Karunanidhi launched Kalaignar TV in 2007.
> >
> > M.K.Azhagiri owns Kalaignar TV.
> >
> > M.K.Azhagiri is M.Karunanidhi's son.
> >
> > M.K.Stalin is another son of the M.Karunanidhi..
> >
> > M.K.Stalin was named after Joseph Stalin.
> >
> > Joseph Stalin was the authoritarian leader of the Soviet Union.
> >
> > M.K.Stalin is the Minister for Rural Development and Local
> > Administration in Tamil Nadu.
> >
> > Kanimozhi is one of the daughters of M.Karunanidhi.
> >
> > Kanimozhi was a sub-editor for the 'The Hindu'.
> >
> > Kanimohi was Editor in Charge of 'Kungumam' a tamil weekly.
> >
> > Kanimozhi became a Rajya Sabha member in 2007.
> >
> > Kanimozhi conducted programs in SUN TV and Vijay TV.
> >
> > Kanimozhi's second husband G.Aravindan is Singapore based Tamil
> > literary figure.
> >
> >
> > Dina Thanthi a tamil daily was founded bu Si.Pa.Aditanar.
> >
> > Aditanar's second son is Sivanthi Athithan.
> >
> > Sivanthi Athithan owns Dina Thanthi.
> >
> > Aditanar had launced the tamil evening daily 'Malai Murasu'.
> >
> > Aditanar set up Malar Publications Ltd.
> >
> > Malar Publications Ltd. Brings out the tamil evening newspaper Malai
> > Malar.
> >
> > Balasubramanian Adityan son of Sivanthi Athithan managers Malar
> > Publications Ltd.
> >
> > B.Adityan set up 'Air Media Network Pvt Ltd' (AMN)
> >
> > AMN is into cable distribution, content productions and broadcasting.
> >
> > AMN owns AMN TV
> >
> > AMN has produced content for FM radio, All India Radio, Doordarshan,
> > Vijay TV.
> >
> >
> > Dina Mani is a tamil newspaper.
> >
> > Dina Mani is owned by The New Indian Express Group. (NIEG)
> >
> > NIEG owns Kannadaprabha, Andhraprabha, Malaylamvarikha, Indiavarta
> > and Expressbuzz.
> >
> > NIEG also owns Cinemaexpress & Tamilanexpress
> >
> >
> > STAR Vijay TV is a tamil TV channel.
> >
> > Vijay TV is owned by STAR TV
> >
> > STAR TV is owned by News Corporation based in Hong Kong.
> >
> > News Corporation is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
> >
> > Fox Entertainment Group is a subsidiary of News Corporation.
> >
> > FEG owns Fox News Channel, in USA.
> >
> > Fox News is a conservative, pro-church Republican Party channel in US
> >
> > News Corporation owns the The Wall Street Journal
> >
> > Jaya TV is a tamil TV channel.
> >
> > Jaya TV is owned by Jaya Network.
> >
> > Jaya Network is owned by J.Jayalalitha
> >
> > Jayalalitha was the former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu (AIADMK
> > party)
> >
> > Makkal TV is owned by Makkal Tholaikatchi
> >
> >
> > Act Now for Harmony and Democracy's (ANHAD) Founding and Managing
> > Trustee is Shabnam Hashmi
> >
> > Shabnam's father was a freedom fighter.
> >
> > Shabnam went to USSR on a cultural exchange scholarship for six
> > years.
> >
> > Shabham is married to Gauhar Raza.
> >
> > KN Panikkar is a Founding trustee of ANHAD
> >
> > Panikkar is an Indian Marxist Historian.
> >
> > Panikkar was the Vice Chancellor of Sree Sankarcharya Sanskrit
> > University, Kalady, Kerala.
> >
> > Panikkar received Homi Bhabha Senior Fellowship.
> >
> > Panikkar was awarded Padma Bhushan.
> >
> > Harsh Mander is a Founding trustee of ANHAD
> >
> > Harsh Mander is a Human Rights activist, author and was in the IAS.
> >
> > Harsh Mander was close to Ajit Jogi
> >
> > Harsh Mander, born into Sikh faith, was in-charge of the relief camps
> > in Indore during the 1984 riots.
> >
> > Harsh Mander served as Managing Director of SC/ST Finance
> > Corporation.
> >
> > Harsh Mander was the Director of ActionAid India.
> >
> > Ajit Jogi was the Chief Minister of Chhatisgarh.
> >
> > Ajit Jogi is from the Congress party (INC).
> >
> > It is claimed that after Ajit Jogi, a tribal Christian became the CM
> > the rate of Christian conversions has gone up.
> >
> > Harsh Mander received the 2002 "Rev. M.A.Thomas National Human Rights
> > Award"
> >
> > Rev M.A.Thomas National Human Rights Award was awarded by "Vigil
> > India Movement.
> >
> > Shubha Mudgal is a trustee of ANHAD
> >
> > Shubha's parents Skand and Jaya Gupta were professors of English
> > literature at Allahabad University.
> >
> > Shubha's grand-father Prof. P.C.Gupta was also a professor at
> > Allahabad University.
> >
> > Shubha's first husband was Justice Mukul Mudgal of Delhi High Court.
> >
> > Shubha is currently married to Aneesh Pradan, a tabla player.
> >
> > Shubha received Padma Shri.
> >
> > Shubha has received several awards in the field of music.
> >
> > Kamla Bhasin is a trustee of ANHAD
> >
> > Kamla is an Indian feminist.
> >
> > Kamla was a lecturer in the Orientation Centre of the German
> > Foundation for Developing Countries, Bad Honnef, West Germany.
> >
> > Kamla was the Development Secretary of Seva Mandir, Udaipur.
> >
> > Saeed Akhtar Mirza is a trustee of ANHAD
> >
> > Saeed Mirza is a writer and director in Hindi films and television.
> >
> > Saeed Mirza's father is Akhtar Mirza
> >
> > Akhtar Mirza was a noted film script writer.
> >
> >
> > Asianet Communications Limited (ACL) has a majority stake in Asianet
> > TV.
> >
> > ACL is owned by Jupiter Entertainment Ventures Limited (JEVL).
> >
> > JEVL is a subsidiary of Jupiter Capitals Ltd.
> >
> > The other media outlets of ACL are: Asianet News, Asianet Plus, Best
> > FM 95, Asianet Suvarana, Suvarna News, Asianet Sitara and Sitara
> > News.
> >
> > Rajeev Chandrasekhar is the Chairman & Editor-in-chief.
> >
> > Rajeev Chandrasekar entered Rajya Sabha in 2006.
> >
> > Rajeev Chandrasekar's uncle is M.K.Narayanan
> >
> > M.K.Narayanan is National Security Advisor
> >
> > M.K.Narayanan headed the Intelligence Bureau from 1987 to 1990.
> >
> >
> > Malayalam daily, Mathrubhumi, is owned by M P Virendrakumar
> >
> > Virendrakumar is a MP through Janata Dal (Secular), from Kerala
> >
> > In Kerala, Deva Gowda's Janata Dal (Secular) party is a constituent
> > of Left Democratic Front
> >
> > Latest Editor of Mathrubhumi is Kesava Menon
> >
> > Kesava Menon was the Associate Editor of The Hindu before taking up
> > this position
> >
> >
> > Shashi Tharoor is an Indian Diplomat.
> >
> > Shashi is the son of late Chandran Tharoor.
> >
> > Chandran was a journalist working for Amrita Bazar Patrika of
> > Calcutta.
> >
> > Chandran headed "The Statesman" in 1959.
> >
> > Shashi Tharoor is going to contest as INC (Congress) candidate in
> > 2009.
> >
> > Ishaan and Kanishk are twin sons of Shashi.
> >
> > Ishaan lives in Hong Kong and works for "Time" magazine.
> >
> > Kanishk lives in London and works for "OpenDemocracy".
> >
> > Shobha Tharoor Srinivasan is a sister of Shashi.
> >
> > Smita Tharoor is another sister of Shashi.
> >
> > Ragini Tharoor Srinivasan is daughter of Shobha.
> >
> > Ragini is the editor of "India Currents".
> >
> > Shobha writes in "India Currents"
> >
> > India Currents is an Indian American monthly.
> >
> > Shashi's first wife was Tilottama Mukherji from Kolkata.
> >
> > Tilottama was/is a journalist and scholar.
> >
> > Sahshi's second wife is Christ Giles, a Canadian.
> >
> > Christa is Deputy Secretary of the United Nations Disarmament
> > Commission.
> >
> > Mukundan Unni was Shashi's maternal uncle.
> >
> > Tharoor Parameswar was Chandran Tharoor's elder brother.
> >
> > Parameswar was the founder publisher of the Indian edition of
> > "Reader's Digest".
> >
> > Param resurrected & presided the Advertising Club of Bombay.
> >
> > Param was also the Advertising Manager of Amrita Bazar Patrika.
> >
> >
> > Shobhana Bhartia is the Chairperson and Editorial Director of
> > Hindustan Times group
> >
> > Shobhana is the daughter of KK Birla; grand daughter of GD Birla.
> >
> > KK Birla joined INC (Congress) party in 1984.
> >
> > KK Birla was later elected Rajya Sabha member in 1984.
> >
> > Shobhana is married to Shyam Sunder Bhartia
> >
> > Shyam is the Chariman of Jubliant Organosys Ltd, a Pharma company
> >
> > Shyam is the son of late Mohan Lal Bhartia.
> >
> > Shamit Bhartia and Priyavrat Bhartia are their sons
> >
> > Shamit is a Director at the Hindustan Times group.
> >
> > Shobhana was nominated for Rajya Sabha in 2006.
> >
> > Shobhana is politically affiliated to INC (Congress).
> >
> > She was nominated by UPA headed by Sonia Gandhi.
> >
> > Shobhana was a 2005 Padma Shree award. This was after UPA formed the
> > government in 2004.
> >
> > Priyavrat is a Director at the Hindustan Times group.
> >
> > Shamit heads franchises of Dominoes Pizza and Hot Breads.
> >
> > Shamit also looks after the chain store 'Monday to Sunday'
> >
> > Shobhana is a close family friend of Scindias.
> >
> > Late Madhavrao Scindia was a Minister from the INC (Congress) party.
> >
> > Jyotiraditya Scindia is Madhavrao's son.
> >
> > Jyotiraditya is a MP from the INC (Congress) party.
> >
> > Karan Thapar writes a weekly column in Hindustan Times.
> >
> > Vir Sanghvi writes two columns 'Counter Point' and 'Rude Food'
> >
> > Barkha Dutt writes the column 'Third Eye'
> >
> > Sonal Kalra is a editor of HT City a supplement of Hindustan Times
> > and writes a column.
> >
> > - Joseph Bain D'Souza was CEO of a housing project in which Mrinal
> > Gore, PB Samant and Suresh Narvekar were trustees.
> > - N. Ram was a founder of Students Federation of India, CPI(M)'s
> > student wing.
> > - N. Ram's niece is married to Dayanidhi Maran.
> > - Joseph D'Souza is the head of All India Christian Council.
> > - Dalit Freedom Network operates out of a church in Colorado. Melody
> > Divine is part of DFN and Melody Divine works for Arizona
> > Congressman Trent Franks.
> > - Joseph D'Souza is listed in Pat Robertson's 700 club, a group for
> > fundamentalist Christians.
> > - Dalit Freedom Network is a member of the Evangelical Council for
> > Financial Accountability.
> >
> > Filed under: Know our Sec(sick)ular Media -- ketscool @ 1:42 am
> >
> > More at:
> > http://ketscool.wordpress.com/category/media/know-our-secsickular-media/
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 6:39 pm
From: "P. Rajah"


Jay Stevens Maharaj aka the jumpin' jackass jyotishithead wrote:

> Dhanyavaad for taking time out of your vacation to post a caution
> about driving on New Year's Eve, harmony ji. Allow me to extend it
> to all holidays -- just look at what happened to Tiger Woods on the
> day after Thanksgiving, and he drove only a few yards.

There's a big difference between having a drink versus being chased by
someone with a 9-iron. Do you have any evidence to show that Tiger drove
drunk, Jay? Of course you don't, but truth and evidence are not
necessary components of the hoax called asstrollogy, is it?

> Speaking of holidays, Obama today blocked the better part of a
> theater-plex on Oahu for his family to watch "Avatar".

Yes, and they watched it in the morning, so as not to inconvenience
movie-goers.


> Speaking of vacations, Rush Limbaugh during his had a medical event,
> was rushed to Queen's Hospital yesterday, but is resting comfortably
> today, much to the distress of the liberals.

Oh, you're a conservative today, are you, Jay? ( ;-) ;-) )
Careful, pradipshit-ji might fall off your ass in shock......

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 2:35 am
From: ".."


Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?


1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
(and money) by insulation ? Especially in
the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
and save the money when oil, natural gas and
coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
shutters for additional insulation at night,
and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
way to find out what else can be done.
A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
time.

2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
charge them during less demand ours like at night
will also save a lot of energy and money.

3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
use of very new LED lamps will save even more.

4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
imported goods, especially food. By buying local
made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
at home.

5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
the heating method; you can use the free heat of the nature by adding
a solar thermal equipment to heat the water for taking showers and
also to heat your home. Additionally you can use a heating pump, which
funtions like a reverse fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
(electricity to pump a liquid).

6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you can save a lot
of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more hydrogen, which will
result in water (CH4 instead of C8H18). CNG will also result in much
more energy output per mass. The conversion is not very expensive. It
is totally save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
- Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas
mileage 33% and city mileage 5%.
- Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven
at the 4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5
times less fuel consumption.
- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
your fuel economy by 15%.
- Use air conditioning only when necessary
- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
mileage by around 3.3%.
- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
and protect your engine
- Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel
as one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do
not forget that in the first mile your car uses
8 times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal

7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of
CO2.

8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
saving, water savings, optimization, automatic
turning off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
processes are really necessary (the change
of some processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on
which nobody has thought about).

9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
cheap since there is an overproduction.
These cells can operate a fridge for example.

Regards.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 4:25 am
From: António Marques


(Who could imagine some interesting information could some out of such a
thread.)

hari.kumar@indero.com wrote (31-12-2009 02:00):
>>> And it is highly probable that underlying it all are the sacred places
>>> of the tribals, the original people of the area and with the original
>>> religions of s. asia.
>>>
>>> I say return all tribal sacred places to them and their control.
>>
>> Till recently you were straight and simple anti-Hindu. Now overnight
>> you have become pro-tribal. Have you discovered your roots finally?
>
> Don't be silly, I'm not anti any ethnic group. I'm pro human rights and
> rule of law and moral justice. To that end I'm accused of all manner of
> things, of being of this ethnic group or another. The curse of s. asia,
> one must, must we demand, be a label so we can make sense of you and
> find your proper place.
>
> It so happens that tribals are on the short end too often of human
> rights and equal treatment before the law and moral justice.
>
> That they exist is often refutation of many of the self glory claims and
> revisionist history some want to apply to themselves.

There *are* 'tribal' communities in India preserving ancient
cultures/religions? I had no idea of that (aside from the Andaman islands,
of course).


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:49 am
From: hari.kumar@indero.com


"There *are* 'tribal' communities in India preserving ancient
cultures/religions? I had no idea of that (aside from the Andaman
islands, of course)."


Yes, there are hundreds depending on how one defines them.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 10:21 am
From: "P. Rajah"


Jay Stevens Maharaj aka the jackass jyotishithead wrote:

> Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
>
> How deep are the roots of Indian civilization? Archaeology answers: B B Lal
>
> Saturday, December 26, 2009
>
> AGENDA
>
> Discovery of India: A different era
>
> The Pioneer
> Sunday, December 27, 2009
>
> [This book by Prof B B Lal has traced the vast spread and
> efflorescence of a civilisation going back more than five thousand
> years, writes Sandhya Jain]

# Indian Civilization has unceasingly existed for 1,972 million years
ago as the fully developed Ganges civilization

# Sanskrit has been in its perfect state since its origin millions of
years ago

# Hindu religion was first revealed 111.52 trillion years ago

# Bhagwan Ram ruled Ayodhya during the prevous tretayug, 18.144 million
years ago

http://web.archive.org/web/20030803191007/http://thevedicfoundation.org/communities/do_you_know.htm


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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 10:23 am
From: Mirza Ghalib


On Dec 30, 7:51 am, hari.ku...@indero.com wrote:
> "Make a pilgrimage to Ayodhya. I have, post-demolition. When the
> soldiers frisk you (multiple times) with a metal detector, they are
> chanting the Ramayana. And believe you me, they are the descendants of "
> Mangal Pandey of the Ghadar fame."
>
> Why go to see rubble from a distance that a fence disallows?  Ah, you
> confirm official collusion in the attitude of the police we see.  Or
> perhaps they were instructed to do so for the benefit of promoting
> terrorism admiring tourists?
>
> Such acts of terrorism can only exist when official corruption and
> collusion flourish.
>
> As has been said, evil will succeed only when righteous men remain
> silent.

They do not ask for your religion there, and the police
(some 2000 of them) were sent by the "secular" congress
right from PVN Rao's time. They had also erected the
fence. So do not blame Hindus for that.

Frisking is necessary, because lots of Paki agents have
attempted to create mayhem there. In one of them, I think
2004, a lone signalman named Hanuman Prasad spotted
these five Paki cockroaches steadily advancing. He,
though injured, ran from post to post and alerted the guards.
The Pakis were thoroughly fried without any loss on the
righteous side.

I have always been a devotee of Hanuman, but from
that day I am also a devotee of Hanuman Prasad.
Jai Bajrang Bali !

Keep your research ongoing trying to prove the
"historicity" of Lord Rama, as your "secular" friends do.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 2:36 pm
From: uNmaiviLambi


On Dec 31, 1:23 pm, Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 30, 7:51 am, hari.ku...@indero.com wrote:

Thank you Maharajji,
Jai Ram!

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:50 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <a1ebff08-a92e-4980-aad0-05a3374876d4@x15g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> Thank you Maharajji,
> Jai Ram!

Dhanyavaad. Jai ho Shri Ram Ji ki! Jai ho Sita Ji ki! Jai ho Lakshman Ji ki!
Jai ho Hanumaan Ji ki!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:46 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Riverside County Pastor Suspected for Drug, Sex Crimes

By Mary Parks and Bill French
NBC Los Angeles
Thursday, December 31, 2009

Behind the locked gates of Our Lady of Tepayac Church in the Home
Gardens community, Riverside County Sheriff's Investigators say they
found evidence to suggest the unthinkable had occurred.

"This is a very evil man who hid behind the good book to take
advantage of little boys," said Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez of the
Riverside County Sheriff's Department.

Clergyman Anthony Martinez-Garduno was arrested late Tuesday after
deputies found evidence to indicate he was selling methamphetamines
from his church.

Detectives conducting a search warrant also located evidence of
possible sex assaults on underage boys who had allegedly been given
GHB, the date rape drug.

Ironically, Garduno is being held in the same jail as five men who he
told police shot him last September during a botched robbery attempt
at the church. Detectives now believe that crime was not random.
Police suspect that during a 10 hour crime spree from Los Angeles to
Corona, Garduno was a targeted drug dealer.

The Diocese of San Bernardino says Garduno is not affiliated with
their organization in any way. NBC4 has learned that Garduno is
actually a defrocked priest who calls himself a bishop, but has no
church standing.

Even so, Parishioners were confused today, some stopping by the
church asking if the man they knew as Father Tony was doing alright.

"He targeted Spanish speaking families," said Sgt. Gutierrez. "We
believe there are many more victims out there. We want to find all of
them because we don't want him to ever see the light of day again."

More at:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Riverside-County-Pastor-Suspected-for-Drug-Sex-Crimes-80382732.html

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 6:13 pm
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Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Revival of Hindu Holy River Sarasvati

Saturday, November 28, 2009

http://www.hindu-blog.com/2009/11/hindu-holy-saraswati-river-to-be.html

Hindu Holy Saraswati River to be revived in Haryana

Hindus once took holy bath in Saraswati River but later it
disappeared from earth. Hindus always worshipped Saraswathi River
along with Ganga and Yamuna River and the river is mentioned in
various Hindu Holy scriptures and is part of rituals. But for many
historians it was a myth. Now Holy SaraswatiRiver is being revived in
Haryana and the project is almost complete.

Times of India reports (23 Nov. 2009)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/Mythical-Saraswatis-here-almost/articleshow/5259144.cms

Come 2010 and Haryana will join the league of states wowing pilgrims
from across the country. The state is progressing towards completing
the last leg of 3.5km stretch of riverSaraswati between Jyotisar and
Bibipur. The state has completed digging work in the 68km stretch
under the first phase of revival plan for the Saraswati River.

Speaking to TOI, the irrigation authorities ruled out the use of
river water for purposes other than religious. "The basic idea is to
retain its sanctity so that more and more devotees come to visit the
holy places along its course. We would not allow the use of this
water for irrigation," minister for irrigation, finance, environment
and forests Ajay Singh claimed.

The river is expected to have a discharge of nearly 200 cusecs water
along the entire stretch. To turn the riparian spots around it into
tourist hubs, the Kuruksehtra Development Board (KDB) has been asked
to develop ghats (place for taking holy dip) where there are ancient
temples.

http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/12/river-sarasvati-to-flow-again-return-of.html

River Sarasvati to Flow Again -- Return of HolySaraswati River

Hindus always believed that the River Sarasvati flowed on earth
before disappearing and the river is mentioned in the Hindu Holy
scriptures and is worshipped along with Ganga River. But the
existence of River Sarasvati was always questioned by historians with
hidden political agenda. Sadly, such historians were ruling the
academies for more than 50 years in India after independence. Now,
archeologists have discovered the bed of the Sarasvati River in
Bhoresaidan Village, about 13 km from Kurukshetra in Haryana. The
fact is also mentioned in numerous ancient literary texts.

Haryana government is now planning to revive the course taken by
Sarasvati River by building a 50 km-long channel in Kurukshetra. The
discovery of the Sarasvati River Bed happened in 2004 when water
started oozing out from the dried Saraswati River bed at the Kapil
Muni Temple Sarovar at Kalayat.

Atul Sethi writes in Times of India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Wide_Angle/Myth_to_reality_Sarasvati_is_set_to_flow_again/articleshow/3902199.cms

A boon that would not have been possible without the discovery of the
river bed. "In 2004, an extraordinary phenomenon occurred," recalls
Purohit, deputy director of the Kurukshetra- based Sri Krishna
Museum. "Water started oozing out from a palaeochannel (a dried river
bed) at the Kapil Muni temple sarovar at Kalayat. We carried out
studies of this water. Simultaneously, a scientific team studied its
mineral composition."

Scientists from ISRO also carried out studies using space imagery and
discovered a number of fossil valleys in upper central Haryana.
"Mapping images of the palaeo channels showed that they corresponded
to the archaeological sites of Haryana," says Purohit. "This means
that these settlements came up near the river, as was the norm in
those times and gives further proof that the river Sarasvati indeed
existed," he says.

When the existence of River Sarasvati was confirmed, the historians
who doubted its existence changed their standpoint and started
doubting the name of the river.

Incidentally, the debate about the existence of the Sarasvati has
been continuing for a long time although lately, most historians have
begun to concede that the river perhaps did exist. However, they
still continue to debate the name by which the river was known, the
route that it took and the reasons for its disappearance. There is no
doubt that the Sarasvati River existed. However, opinion is divided
on whether it was known as the Sarasvati or the Ghaggar.

People of the region are not interested in such worthless debates.
They want water and they will soon get it through the revival of an
ancient river -- River Sarasvati.

"The revival of the Sarasvati will benefit countless people in the
region as it will augment ground water resources," says Darshan Lal
Jain of the Sarasvati Nadi Shodh Sansthan, which is working with the
government on this project. The plan is not to line with the river's
course with bricks so that water can permeate the ground. With ground
water levels dipping to as low as 150 feet, the river's revival may
be a boon for parched Haryana.

See also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pueVNbuZ2A4

End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 6:37 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Nature Devs

Hinduism Today
http://www.hinduismtoday.com
January 1996

Take a moment and ponder a natural wonder -- the extraordinary
metamorphosis of a delicate flower bud into a delicious mango, a drop
of water splintering into tetrahedral-matrixed snowflakes or bits of
coral sand seamlessly spun into a seashell. The choice is yours, and
the possibilities are endless. Approach your contemplation with
sincerity, and at least a little devotion, and you will begin to
sense the innate intelligence in the miracles of nature we rarely
take time to notice.

What you may see or detect the workings of is the world of nature
spirits, devasor adhibautasin Sanskrit -- a giant kingdom of beings
subtler-than-physical. Every indigenous culture knows about them.
Residing within the odic/causal energy substratum of life, these
devasassume forms and functions as vast and awesome as the physical
forms that surround us. Some potent, others petite, they explode star
clusters, move ocean tides and make perfume in jasmine flowers.
Others, like yakshis,nymphs, live in forests and permeate the
woodlands with that spine-tingling feeling of freshness and healing
that so thrills humans.

These nature devasare not remote. They are close, aware of our
presence and even our thoughts. An important aspect of rita
dharma,universal law, is to mold one's thoughts, words and deeds to
be in harmony with the abode of devs(Devaloka), as well as the abode
of Gods (Brahmaloka). For rural villagers, tribals and others close
to the land, there is no other way to live. A perfect modern example
is Vishnu Maya Gurung [see front page article]. A respected elder in
her Nepalese village (now deceased), the Deities were as near and
dear to her as closest kin.

The devasserve all of humanity. In the West, as in the East,
communications from devashave been received and recorded. In modern
times, the world of nature spirits has perhaps never been unveiled
with so much force and fact as at Findhorn, Scotland. Here, in brief,
is their story.

The Wonders of Findhorn

Peter Caddy, an ex-senior officer in the Royal Air Force, his wife
Eileen, their three sons and Dorothy, a colleague, had long been
engaged in metaphysical studies and meditation. One surprising snowy
November day in 1962, they found themselves out of work. Undaunted,
they meditated and waited for divine guidance. It came. "Guidance
told us to not only live in the moment, but to enjoy it!" Peter
recalls. "We were told that Findhorn would be of importance to the
world, that there was a plan behind it."

The next thing they knew, Dorothy had bumped into a plant spirit in
her meditation, a pea devaeager to help Peter in his garden. "We knew
the devasto be that part of the angelic hierarchy that holds the
archetypal pattern for each plant species and direct energy toward
bringing a plant into form on the physical plane," Peter said. "Now
here was this Pea Deva offering to help us!" The devatold Peter
everything, from how far apart various plants like to be to how they
dislike getting transplanted. Soon the garden became incredibly
productive. One huge vegetable weighed 42 lbs. A broccoli head was so
big it fed the group of six for four months! Then Eileen received
messages from "God within" reminding her that Findhorn was just not
about gardening and growing giant vegetables! Findhorn was about
providing the world a model of "cooperation" between the plant and
human kingdoms. "True cooperation begins when we realize that man,
the devasand nature spirits are part of the same life-force creating
together," Peter said.

After the sweet pea devabroke the ice, everybody jumped in -- Tibetan
blue-poppy dev, rose dev, rain dev and more expansive landscape and
ocean devs. With every message, whether about pruning or "attuning,"
there came the sweetest brother/sister love. Over the years, they
grew into a healthy and harmonious spiritual community and published
the world's single most powerful collection of nature-spirit messages
in three books: Findhorn Garden, The Magic of Findhornand The Spirit
of Findhorn,published by Harper and Row.

But this intimate inner relationship was not sustained. We learned
years later, when Peter Caddy (now deceased) visited Hinduism Today's
offices, that "hippies" had moved into Findhorn (now called Findhorn
Foundation). Caddy lamented that the standards of living and harmony
were not maintained. As a result, the devasmoved out and
asurasnaturally moved in -- the vegetables shrunk back to normal
size. Caddy said he had been told he was no longer a part of the
community.

Findhorn proves how we can work closely with the devs, and also how
delicate and precious such a connection to their world is. Constant
effort and sacrifice is needed to sustain it. It is no different from
keeping a vibration of harmony and love within the home. If
maintained consistently, devascan come home with you from the temple
and stay at your home shrine to help, bless and gently guide your
family. If disharmony and contention are allowed to prevail, they
have no choice but to withdraw. A Recent Visit to Findhorn

University professor Puvaneswary lives in Aberdeen, not far from
Findhorn Foundation. After reading the book to her children last
August, she visited Findhorn. She recounts, "It was a hazy, warm day.
People from all over the world were there, calm and peaceful. I
learned that Roc, the mystic who met and talked to the God Pan, had
died. So had Peter Caddy. Dorothy only visits occasionally. I learned
that a child there still talks to the devs but is too shy to discuss
it. When I got home, I set up a small section of my own garden for
the devs to live and work in undisturbed and recently noticed a
faint, facial expression on a plant called senecio grey. I was sure
it was a dev taking the shape of the plant, as they can do so easily,
being made out of light.

My friends and relatives too have had nature devaexperiences. One
friend, when she was a girl, used to play with fairies who lived in
the cups of flowers. Another Hindu friend was pained one day when she
saw a man chainsaw down a giant old oak tree that all the
neighborhood children used to love to climb and play in. That night
the tree devacame to her, so sad his "home" was destroyed, not
knowing where to go. My Taoist cousin told me that one day, when she
was staring out the window at a weeping willow tree, the Chinese
Goddess Quan Yin appeared inside the tree -- her silken tresses and
the willow branches were one. Even my own daughter when she was
little used to talk to me about her invisible friends." Sidebar: They
Talk!

Yes, nature devascan talk. When they do, it is always with great love
and intelligence. Dorothy Maclean (left), one of the Findhorn
"settlers," and friend "Roc" (right) received messages from nature
devs in meditation. Roc saw elementals clairvoyantly, even conversed
at length with them, including the legendary woodlands God, Pan. Here
are a few communications they published in the book Findhorn
Garden,along with a few from Hindu tradition. From the Findhorn Devs

I and my subjects are willing to come to the aid of mankind in spite
of the way he has treated us and abused nature, if he affirms belief
in us and asks for our help.
- Pan, God of the elementals

The elemental and devic worlds are far more powerful than the human
kingdom at the present time, for they are still within attunement to
the energies of God. God is not only the God of human beings. He is
the Lord and Lover, Creator and the Nourisher, the Seed, the Promise
and the fulfillment of all forms of nature and of the earth and of
the cosmos, and beyond. To see this, you must attempt to see with His
vision, know with His love, live with His life. It is as simple as
that. Not a complex pattern.
- Findhorn devs

Just tune into nature until you feel the love flow. That is your
arrow into the dev world.
- Findhorn devs

There are no individual egos with us; when you love one beech tree,
for example, you love all beech trees, connected with the whole genus
of beech. If the human kingdom could learn this quality it would mean
the end of war and rivalry, competition and strife.
- Landscape angel

Let each garden be different and unique as is each soul. Man's trend
should be to unity, not uniformity. Each to his own talent.
- Tibetan blue poppy dev

Today man manipulates the plant world for his own selfish purposes,
treating it in the same commercial way as he does car components. You
get better results from a child if you use love, not force. Although
force may bring quicker results, it starts a chain reaction of other
[negative] effects.
- Foxglove dev

Man is beginning to realize how much forests are needed by the
planet. But he covers acres with one quick-growing species, selecting
trees for economic reasons. This shows utter ignorance of the purpose
of trees and their channeling of diverse forces. At present the
planet needs more than ever just what is being denied it -- the very
forces which come through the large and stately trees.
- Monterrey cypress dev

Happiness has an especially good effect on plants, as do children at
play. The greenhouse is invaluable. However, plastic frames cut out
valuable rays.
- Landscape angel

As with your bodies, we are the result of millions of years of
evolving patterns. Imagine the effect of an atomic bomb on our
volatile media after aeons of ordered perfection!
- Spirit of the wind

Humans! Never content with their lot but always wanting to be as good
or better than their neighbors. Comparison seems to us a noxious
thing. God made each of us and each of you as we are, to be a
particular expression of life.
- Good King Henry dev

What an integral part of the planet I am -- longed for and hated,
fierce and gentle. I am part of all living things, even your physical
self. If you would rule us, first rule yourself, your own tempestuous
nature and arid outlook.
- Rain dev

Man is destroying himself because he thinks he is separate. How can
you possibly not know that when the wind blows it is part of you,
that the sun is part of you with each sunbeam? How can you be so
dense as not to know that if one suffers, the whole consciousness of
the earth partakes of that?
- Lord of the elements

From a Hindu Shastr

Trees serve as homes for visiting devs who do not manifest in earthly
bodies, but live in the fibers of the trunks and larger branches of
the trees, feed from the leaves and communicate through the tree
itself. Some are permanently stationed as guardians of sacred places.
- Hindu Dev Shastr, verse 117

In our gardens, Lord Ganesh sends His power through fruits and
vegetables, the ones that grow above the ground, to permeate our
nerve system with wisdom, clearing obstacles in our path when eaten.
The growers of them treat it like they would care for Ganesha in His
physical form.
- Hindu Dev Shastr, verse 438

As the cow and goat, as well as the herb, the tree and the
vegetation, can read the thoughts of us all, chanting and singing
should occur while tending to their needs.
- Hindu Dev Shastr, verse 439

Her upon whom the trees, lords of the forest, stand firm, unshakable,
in every place, this long-enduring Earth we now invoke, the giver of
all manner of delights.
- Atharv Ved 12.1.27

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Om Shanti

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Hinduism Today: Devadasis - Legendary Temple Dancers

Devadasis

Hinduism Today
http://www.hinduismtoday.com
August 1993

India's legendary temple dancers

It is hard to imagine a class of people once so venerated and then so
dishonored as the devadasis --India's ritual temple artists. For
millennia, these highly trained performers filled India's temples
with devotional song and rigorous dance. Then in the early 1900's,
Christian influence inspired a moral brigade of Anglicized Indians to
cleanse India of such "backwardness." They branded the devadasi a
harlot and had her legally outlawed. Few Hindus know this. Fewer
comprehend how a society that once called her nityasumangali, "the
ever-auspicious woman," could later chase her into the streets. In a
three-part series, we will help explain this, identify her Agamic
origins, detail her duties and discuss controversial efforts to
"rehabilitate" her.

The devadasi never married in the normal sense. Raised in the temple
environs under years of rigorous training in classical singing and
dance, she was ceremonially "wed" to a God or Goddess at about 16.
She rose before dawn, sang as she lit the temple lamps and danced as
part of the worship offered to the Deity during pujas, festivals and
processions. As the priest conducted the puja, she sang devotional
songs while offering flowers or waving the alankaram lamp. This
sublime choreography transformed temple ceremonies into beautiful
spectacles uplifting all the senses as shakti flowed forth from the
Mahadeva.

In order for her to continue her lineage, the devadasi was encouraged
to secure a "patron" from the community. He was to be "a religious
man of good status, taste, wealth and tradition" as it was considered
important that their offspring be of high-breeding. Respected elders
in the community often made this choice. Brahmins were commonly
selected. She could change "patrons" if felt necessary. She never
cooked for him, stayed at his house or performed routine wifely
functions. Children born of their alliance were hers and learned
music and dance. Sons never danced in the temple, but became the
dance masters, natuvanars, and taught younger girls, who came to look
upon them like fathers. It was these natuvanars who protected the
devadasis and saw to their happiness and welfare.

This unique tradition was Hindu society's strategic way of
guaranteeing the preservation of the classical arts as religious, not
secular expressions. The devadasi's marriage to the Deity was more
than a spiritualizing arrangement. It was a practical necessity,
society felt, because the demands of a female family member --
daughter, wife or mother -- are so consuming, only someone unmarried
could commit the time and energies needed to master the classical
arts. "They could practice and perform all day long and not think
about anything else," examines Mythili Kumar, a famous contemporary
dancer, herself trained by a devadasi. "Even if they had some family,
they didn't have to, or want to, really worry about all that. This is
so different from the training a girl now gets in India where you
have to always put family first before the art. Whether that is
positive or negative depends on how you look at it. It really comes
down to dedication to the art. For them, the art always came first
and family came second."

Her Tarnished Image -- an Explanation


In Hindu society there were other classes of dancing girls besides
the devadasis. Much of the negative stigma attached to her comes from
the chronic misidentification of her with them. There were the famed
ganikas, highly educated dancer/courtesans such as Ambapali who
Buddha once dined with. The Muslims spawned a giant class of dancers
and singers to entertain in their courts. There were also dancers who
were clearly identified as "public women." Prostitution in ancient
India was legal and regulated by the state. The state taxed it,
licensed practioners, monitored their health, kept records and
policed all involved.

In an effort to debase Hinduism, several Western scholars classed the
devadasi with these public women. One of the most widely referenced
encyclopedias on Hinduism in the world, The Hindu World, slanderously
writes: "The institution of temple harlotry was prevalent in India
till the end of the last century. Large temples such as those at
Madura, Conjeeveram and Tanjore were worked like brothels." This
bizarre idea is based on a temple inscription that simply said
Tanjore had 400 devadasis.

After the devadasis were banned from the temples, most struggled on
the fringe of society. Some were driven to unflattering means of
livelihood -- a fact they suffer with to this day. While the
government today spasmodically tries to "rehabilitate" them,
devadasis themselves, and sympathizers, are asking for bolder, more
creative solutions.

Part II next month

Sidebar: Saride ManikYamma

Interview by Vijay Shankar

Saride Manikyamma was initiated as a child danseuse in two temples in
Andra Pradesh. She became the most beloved dancer at her temple until
1947 when the government banned the devadasi tradition. She struggled
alone in poverty for 25 years until a dance director found her and
hired her to teach dance at his institute. Today, Saride leads a
retired life in Hyderbad. In 1991, she was honored with the
prestigous Central Sangeete Nataka Akademi Award for her outstanding
contribution as a danseuse. In this rare interview she speaks about
her past.

Hinduism Today: Could you tell us about your initiation as a temple
danseuse?

Saride Manikyamma: I was initiated to the temple of Madana
Gopalaswamy (Lord Krishna) and Rukmini (Goddess Lakshmi) in
Ballapadu, at the age of 11. I never realized the significance of
what I was doing. Being an obedient child, I did what my elders asked
me to do. My day started with the early morning worship. Commencing
with the Suprabhatam in the early morning worship 'til the Ekantaseva
late in the night, I performed several rituals in the temple. Some of
them had to be performed through dance. In the evenings, there were
occasional congregations of people when a Deity was worshipped and
the Asthana Utsavam (sun-setting festival) was performed as an
offering. This was also a program for entertainment and devotional
purpose.


For many years, my family line has been dedicated to the temple. My
grandmother, Seshamma, and two paternal aunts, Mutyam and Madhuram,
were the temple danseuses before me. I learned dance from my
ancestors but also had other teachers. Rudrabhatla Ramamurthy was the
original guru of the temple. I studied under him for quite some time.
Then there was a dispute between him and temple management, and he
had to go. Another scholar, Purughalla Subbaiah, was appointed as a
substitute. He was both a musician and a dance scholar. He taught me
abhinaya, mimetic expression, and the Adhyatma Ramayana.

HT: It is well known that though the temples are closed to devadasis,
the custom of dedicating girls to Deities still continues in parts of
India. Many then sing and beg for a living, an almost unrecognizable
mutation of the original system. The government is now mounting a
drive against these girls. What is your reaction?

SM: A drive against the devadasi system hardly has any significance.
What the government should do is to rehabilitate the devadasis by
providing them with basic needs and vocational help, but moreover
encourage their artistic talents instead of looking down on them. It
is not fair to blame the devadasis alone, as society holds equal
responsibility in the deterioration and degradation of devadasis.
There are many devadasis who are completely left in the lurch and
lead a secluded life.

HT: Tell us about the temples you were associated with in Ballapadu?

SM: The two temples stretched over 136 acres. This was truly a rich
endowment considering those times. The entire income of the temple
was spent for the Deity only, for the daily and periodical rituals,
festivals and maintenance of artists, servants, etc. I was the prima
donna until the endowments were abolished along with the devadasi
system in the 1930's.

HT: What was the impact on your life?


SM: I remember, it was about fifty years ago, suddenly the temple
staff was dismantled. I had nowhere to go, I felt miserable. We
fought a losing battle in the courts. The case even reached the high
court. Finally, I moved to Duvva, another nearby village, after
selling all my personal property.

HT: How did Dr. Nataraj Ramakrishna spot you?

SM: In 1972, there was a sadassu (convention) convened by Dr. Nataraj
Ramakrishna (right). All the artists rich in experience in
traditional arts assembled. I was discovered by him along with many
others and was brought to Hyderbad. At his institute, I was assigned
to teach abhinaya. If not for his timely support, I would be leading
the secluded life of a recluse.

HT: You are an expert in the interpretation of Munipalle Subrahmanya
Kavi's Adhyatma Ramayana?


SM: Yes. It's a ballad form of Ramayana. Written in the 16th century,
it consists of about 108 songs in which the story of Rama is narrated
from his birth to his ultimate coronation. Perfect lyrics, the songs
have classical tunes. Each song has its own substance, culminating in
a climax. Adhyatma Ramayana became an integral part of the repertoire
of the numerous temple dancers in Godavari regions.

HT: What has been your reaction on receiving the Sangeeta Nataka
Akademi Award?

SM: It was all due to the Divine Grace and through Dr. Nataraj
Ramakrishna who was instrumental in my being able to surface and see
the world from the seclusion to which I was forced to retire. I was
not existing at all for the rest of the world until Dr. Nataraj noted
my presence. But now I have the satisfaction of having passed on my
knowledge to some students at least, especially my disciple Tara
Priyadarshini. I am glad that my singing and dance version has been
recorded by Central Sangeeta Nataka Academy. Today, due to the grace
of Almighty, I lead a contented life.

Sidebar: Their Talent Persists

Though not widely known, many of India's greatest contemporary
dancers, singers and instrumentalists are from a devadasi lineage.
One such artist unashamed of her devadasi lineage is Kishori Amonkar,
one of India's most extraordinary classical singers. An article on
her (India Perspectives, 1991, by Rashmee Seghal) candidly revealed
the prejudice she suffered as a girl:

"Born in Goa in 1931, her mother Moghubhai Murdikar herself a famous
singer, came from the oppressed stratum of society, the devadasis. So
although she grew up in an atmosphere of music, Kishori faced many
privations in her youth. Describing one such incident, she says,
"Once I was sitting on the parpet of the Someshwar temple in our home
village Kurdi, when I was rudely a sked to get down from there and
sit on the step below. Why? I failed to understand. I did not budge.
Later on I came to know that our low social status automatically
assigned us to a place a the bottom."

"It is not fair to blame the devadasi alone. Society is equally
responsible for her present degradation.

The government should provide not only vocational help, but
encourage her artistic talents instead of looking down on her."

- Saride Manikyamma

End of forwarded article from:

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/1993/8/1993-8-05.html

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


Devadasis, Part II

Hinduism Today
September 1993

Part I introduced the complex and severely misunderstood tradition of
the devadasis, Hinduism's ritual temple artists. Four points were
made: 1) the devadasi was highly trained in music and dance from
girlhood; 2) at 16, she was ceremoniously "married" to a temple Deity
and served as a full temple employee; 3) she was permitted a "patron"
of good bearing from the community; 4) and she was distinct from
other women who sang solely in palaces and wealthy homes as well as
the various strata of courtesans high and low.

Despite all the bizzare accounts by mainly Western writers, the
devadasi temple tradition was not some twisted turn of a patriarchal
Indian society nor a heartless Hindu institution of "religious
harlotry." Hardly. Its origins trace deep into the Saiva Agamas
(circa 1,500 bce), which dignify her as a bonafide ceremonial
officiant, with specific duties, training and and rules of conduct.
Both the devadasis and the priests were a part of the subtle, sacred
task of invoking the shakti, divine energy, of the Mahadeva and
making it a palpable experience to devotees. The priests employed
Sanskrit mantras; the devadasis used music, mudra and dance. Both
regarded themselves as "temple servants." They carried an attitude of
humble self-respect, joyfully filling an occupation that garnered
little worldly reward. Their deepest fulfillment was completely
inner.

The Kamikagama describes many categories of female ritual temple
artists, including the Rudraganika, Rudrakkannikai and the Rudradasi.
Contemporary high priest Sadyojatasivacharya summarizes from Agamic
passages: "The Rudraganika should wear her hair in a knot above the
collar bone; her waist should be adorned by a saffron cloth. She
should wear the Siva mark of three stripes of holy ash and the
rudraksha as the sole ornament. She should wear a silken blouse. The
acharya gives her Sivadiksha (initiation) and teaches her the
Panchakshara Mantram and ties on her the golden sign of the linga
onto her wedding pendant. For all three [ganikas] after the bottu
(lingam) has been tied, it is necessary for her to peform nrittnam,
pure dance. If this is done with lust, or otherwise, the king and
country will be destroyed."

Other sects, Sakta and Vaishnavite, scripturally sanctioned and
adopted the devadasi tradition. To her village, she was considered a
"harbinger of auspiciousness," a true embodiment of the Deity.
Devotees invited devadasis to private homes on auspicious occasions,
especially weddings. Here they were worshiped and then asked to sing
and bless. They went in groups of two or more, never alone. One Puri
Temple retired devadasi relates: "People used to take sand from our
door [as a blessing] and bangles from our hands to give to their
daughters. But today, people think sinfully about us and [don't do
this anymore]."

The devadasi's schedule was highly routine. She performed daily, or
more infrequently if many were attached to her temple. She lived in
her own small house, alone, on temple lands, and ate both temple
prashadam and cooked for herself. She rose before dawn, performed her
personal worship and arrived at the temple with the priests. She
sang, lit lamps and danced generally in two different locations --
right before the inner sanctum and also at smaller shrines in outer
mandapams (halls) where devotees were uplifted by her sublime
worship. At other times, she performed in festival processions and
part of dance dramas that continued around the year keeping Hindu
teachings and stories alive. In the evening, she sang but only the
most honored "inner division devasasis" performed at the close of the
final evening puja, waving the last arati. Some learned and played
the flute and veena.

Her "Private" Life -- Fact Versus Fabrication

Nothing has so hypnotized the prurient imagination of Western writers
than the devadasi's "private" life. French missionary Abbé Dubois
seeded a breeding nest of vilification with his baseless statement
circa 1800: "Once the devadasis' temple duties are over, they open
their cells of infamy, and frequently convert the temple itself into
a stew. A religion more shameful or indecent has never existed
amongst a civilized people." Other Western writers further
fictionalized this warped portrait. By the early 1900's, an élite
group of Anglicized Indians, brainwashed by decades of Christian
moralizing -- along with a party of avowed anti-Hindu atheists -- led
fierce campaigns against temple dancing. Several unusually courageous
devadasis such as Balasarawati (left) and stalwart brahmin
sympathizer E. Krishna Iyer fought against the zealous "reformers."
But to no avail. The temples were legally "cleansed" in late 1947.
(See side bar.) The sacred art form was frantically and awkwardly
passed on to high-caste brahmin girls to learn and then perform as
"high" secular entertainment, like ballet, where it stands today.

Ironically the dismantling of the devadasi tradition only fueled an
even more radical rural religious practice. In this, girls are "wed"
to a God or Goddess, but with no temple to serve in. Often called
jogtis, (or, confusingly, devadasis by the Indian press) they carry
an image of the Deity and worship it daily. Considered "auspicious,"
they beg at five homes a day and are openly "public women," with
rural society's religious sanction. State governments have banned the
practice and are desperately trying to eradicate it.

During 1975-1981 Frédérique Marglin, an anthropologist who studied
Indian dance, visited India and befriended the last remaining temple
devadasis of the Jagannath Temple at Puri. Her remarkable 400-page
sober and sensitive account of their tradition, Wives of the
God/King, faithfully retrieves one of the clearest pictures of the
original devadasi tradition in all its complexity.

The Puri devadasis repeatedly told Marglin that fraternizing with
"outsiders," (pilgrims) was strictly taboo. If they had "relations"
with a temple devotee, they were dismissed. However, they shared
something that was common knowledge amongst temple brahmin families
but to few others. In the words of Radha, a Puri devadasi: "It is a
custom for us to keep relations with a brahmin temple servant, but
never with 'outsiders.' Why should I hide these things? When I had my
puberty, I exchanged garlands with this priest [a widower] in whose
brother's house I live and I have lived within the boundaries of that
relationship always." The Puri devadasis explained that they grew up
with the priests and felt a natural closeness to them as both had
dedicated their lives to being temple servants. The brahmins' wives
were fully aware of these "second wife" situations. Until "reformers"
came, they were never a moral concern. The sinfulness Christians
attached to non-monogamous marital arrangements was not yet known.
For years, the devadasis feared revealing this area, painfully aware
that already they were considered prostitutes by educated society.
Now, demoralized and disbanded, they feel they have nothing to lose
in confiding everything, for they have nothing left, except a
hauntingly deep love of devotional song and dance.

Part III will include interviews with famous contemporary dancers,
including Mrinalini Sarabhai, Ratna Kumar and Vidya Sridhar.

The Law that Damned Dance

The sun rose bright over Madras on January 27th, 1948. It seemed to
be an everyday morning. But when the Fort St. George Gazette hit the
streets, there were cries --cheers and tears. The legal section
carried the long-expected decree -- The Madras Devadasis Act XXXI,
(reproduced in part):

"Dancing by a woman, with or without kumbhaharathy (pot-shaped temple
arati lamp), in the precincts of a temple or other religious
institution, or in any procession of a Hindu deity, idol or object of
worship installed in any such temple or institution or at any
festival or ceremony held in respect of such a deity, idol or object
of worship, is hereby declared unlawful... Any person who performs,
permits or abets [temple dancing] is punishable with imprisonment
for... six months.

A woman who takes part in any dancing or music performance... is
regarded as having adopted the life of prostitution and becomes
incapable of entering into a valid marriage and... th e performance
of any [marriage] ceremony... whether [held] before or after this Act
is hereby declared unlawful and void."

From that day onward, 35,000 temples of Tamil Nadu barred all women
performers, devadasis or not. Most had already. Today, Indian girls
perform Hinduism's sacred dances in high school basketball gyms,
rented Christian community centers and hotel dance halls. The temples
meanwhile are void of devotional song and dance, except occasional
tourist shows like at Khajarao.

Amrapalli of Puri

Amrapalli was a dancer/singer in Puri's Jagannath Temple and began in
her early teens. In her mid-twenties, the local king suddenly
banished her from the temple. She says it was because she refused his
royal order to bed with him (a king's right, exercised for
centuries). Others said it was because she lived for a period in
Calcutta with her "patron," breaking the rule that devadasis never
leave their temple's town.

Amrapalli broke another rule, one of the first to do so. When she saw
her tradition being trampled into ruin by the "anti-dance" reformers,
she trained her four adopted daughters in music and dance, but
married them to high caste husbands (including one brahmin), instead
of dedicating them as devadasis. The fourth she married to a
devadasi's son. He became an Orissi dancer and now teaches at a dance
school.

Amrapalli came from the karana caste, hereditary temple scribes, and
was dedicated to the temple at age 9 by her mother. She was highly
trained, studied literature, wrote poetry, was considered very
beautiful, danced inspirationally and had an unusually sweet,
devotional voice.

"[The 'reformers'] say I was just a concubine of [my patron]. But he
was also one of my gurus. Sometimes, he even worshiped me as a
devotee, giving me sandalpaste and flowers and doing puja to me. He
was very religious and built a shrine and a hospital."

As of 1982, Amrapalli was happy, living alone and associating closely
with a Vaishnavite monastery in Puri, worshiping and attending talks
by sadhus.

End of forwarded article from:

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/1993/9/1993-9-12.html

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


Devadasis

Hinduism Today
December 1993

Outlawed as Harlots

Parts One and Two of our 4-part series introduced India's legendary
ritual temple artists, the Devadasis. Part Three-drawn extensively
from Kay Jordan's unusual study "From Sacred Servant to Profane
Prostitute-The Changing Legal Status of the Devadasis: 1857-1947"-
examines the complex saga of how, in a land where God is worshiped as
a dancer, dance became a sin.

As the East India Company's 17th century "looting spree" turned into
permanent business by the 1800's-"bleeding India, judiciously," as
British Prime Minister Salisbury coolly decreed-waves of Christian
preachers and teachers were dispatched to Anglicize the "savages."
Vicious in their ridicule of Hinduism, the missionaries won converts
amongst the Indian élite who were quick to adopt novel European ideas
and eager for social acceptance by those in power. Gradually the
seeds of cultural shame were sown and an Indian clone of British
mentality successfully bred. From then onwards, the most effective
critics of Hindu tradition were Indians themselves. By the late
1800's, a reform movement was in full bloom comprised of
"missionaries, doctors, journalists and [Indian] social workers
heavily influenced by Christian morality and religion," notes social
historian Amrit Srinivasan. "Civilizing the Indians through enforcing
a uniform adoption of the Victorian ethic for women" became a central
goal of the reformers. And the Devadasi tradition-with its custom of
allowing her an alliance with a respectable "patron" in the
community-stood out as the most ungodly, un-Christian violation. "An
insult to womanhood," reformers indignantly fumed, and insisted on
"the imported conjugal monogamous ideal for women as the only code of
conduct permissble for all Indian women," Srinivasan further
examines.

Devadasis in Court

The earliest court cases involving devadasis appear in the1860's-
mostly petty grievances with temple management over the devadasis'
temple land grants and their selection rights regarding new
devadasis. A statement by Bombay's Chief Justice Holloway in 1864
typifies Britain's cautious legal policy of avoiding, whenever
possible, any legislation on matters of Hindu religion that might
inflame the Hindu populace. He wrote:"This [devadasi custom] is not
at variance with Hindu law; our courts are therefore bound to
administer to them that law, uninfluenced by a fastidiousness founded
upon Western views of morality." Social activists however insisted
that girls dedicated to temples were inducted into lives of
prostitution and demanded the courts ban the practice. (The Indian
Penal Code, established in 1861, allowed for prostitution but made
"trafficking" illegal.) Pressured by an Indian élite who felt
embarrassed by a tradition that Westerners had convinced them
"violated international 'moral' standards," the Central Government in
1872 requested an official report from each of its provinces on the
extent and nature of its devadasi tradition as well as the Hindu
public's opinion relating thereto.

The Governor General of Madras responded: "It seems to be the most
general opinion that dancing girls are necessary adjuncts to the
Hindu ritual and that also their attendance on private families is
customary and necessary on many domestic occasions. That to legislate
with the intention of the gradual extinction of the dancing girl
caste would be viewed with extreme dislike by the great majority of
Hindus." Bombay agreed and penned: "There would be no advantage to
interfere in long established usages in this respect which are in a
great measure founded on the religious tenets of the people."
Trichy's District Magistrate replied: "These girls, by definite title
or by prescription, occupy a defined position and perform defined
duties in Hindu temples and from that point of view, their services
must be considered lawful and necessary and are also recognized by
the Civil Courts as being so." Sholapur Collector A.F. Maconochie
expressed that the dancing girls should be tolerated because if they
were outlawed, they would be abused. "Private [Hindu] people would be
unwilling to receive them, and there are no public institutions in
India for their reception. The [Christian] Missions, of course, would
take them in, with the object of making Christians of them. But as
the mass of Indian public look on change of religion, especially the
adoption of Christianity, as a far worse sin than prostitution, the
change would stir up very bitter religious opposition, and be
interpreted as a practical propagation of Christianity by the
government." H.C. Mules, Karachi district magistrate, answered:
"However objectionable the lives of the girls may be in our eyes, it
does not appear they follow their calling under pressure, and are not
looked upon as outcasts or regarded so by their co religionists."

Britain's Home Secretary responded to the reformers' argument that
dedicating girls without their consent was cruel: "In India, females
of disposed of one way or another, long before age 16; whether their
volition has or has not matured by that age is not very material
since they seldom are allowed to exercise it at any time."

After judicious review, the Central Government concluded that
regardless the extent of alleged sexual excesses it perhaps
encompassed, the devadasi tradition was nevertheless a bonafide Hindu
custom and that existent "trafficking" laws provided adequate
protection by forbidding girls under 16 to be given or kept for the
proven express purpose of prostitution. But, as reformist zeal
mounted, some judges showed less restraint. In 1880, Justice West of
Bombay called the temple dancer tradition of his precinct a
"manifestly evil tendency, essentially vicious" and denied devadasis
protection under all civil law. Madras High Judge Muttusami Ayyar
objected: "Whatever may be the change in the sentiments of Hindus in
regard to the dancing women in Bombay and Poona, I am unable to say
that there is considerable change in this presidency in the general
mass of the Hindu community as contra-distinguished from a
comparatively small section that has come under the influence of
Western culture."

But continuing pressure and "criticism of the court's recognition of
the devadasis and their customs from England and from both Indian and
missionary social reform organizations demanded the British Indian
government take action," notes author Kay Jordan.

In 1912, legislation to "protect female minors"-aimed at banning the
devadasi system-was again introduced by a Parsi and a Hindu, Mr.
Mudholkar. Mudholkar presumed: "Neither Hinduism as now practiced,
nor Hinduism as it was inculcated by our rishis, recognized this
[devadasi system]. It was to them a most abhorrent thing." Moral
indignation voiced by the male sector of Hindu society was new.
Associate Professor of Asian Studies at Mt. Holyoke College Dr.
Indira Viswanathan Peterson explains this phenomenon: "In reaction to
the British, Indians acted in two contradictory ways: they became
great reformers; but also suppressed some of the more erotic and
sexually liberated aspects of women's culture, thus turning Indian
society more rigid and conservative. Devadasis, or temple dancers,
were now considered obscene prostitutes, whereas earlier they were
not. This was because Indian men had to prove to the British that
they were moral, moral in a Christian, Victorian sort of way."

All along, the central question of alleged prostitution, or a degree
thereof, within the devadasi tradition remained a blur. The Madras
Legislature wrote in 1924: "We have not definitely assumed that
employment as a devadasi is equivalent to employment for purposes of
prostitution." The Central Government generally concurred: "Even if
it is true in many instances that temple dedication is synonymous, in
practice, with prostitution, we should hesitate to make a legal
declaration to that effect, so long as this was not admitted by
Hindus generally." It then advised Bombay and Madras to strengthen
prostitution trafficking laws and to encourage their ladies'
vigilante associations as such rather than outlaw devadasis.


Then in 1929, a brahmin woman and member of the legislature, Dr.
Muthulakshmi Reddy, launched a furious anti-nautch (dance) campaign,
demanding wholesale demolition of the devadasi system-a "revolting
custom, calling for immoral trade of women," she raged. "The
dharmakarthars [temple heads] and general illiterate public imagine
that the Gods in the temple want these dasis for service!" she added.
"The Gods in the temple do not want any dancing or music," thundered
a Mr. K. R. Karant, a Hindu. "It is a sacrilege to say that religion
requires all this nonsense."


"Don't Exterminate Us!" Throughout the 60-years of legal assault
against them, the devadasis remained silent. But Dr. Reddy scared
them out of that shy profile. Overnight, scores of hand-writtenpleas
and protests-personally signed by devadasis-poured into the Madras
Legislature. One stood out. It was signed by the "Deputation of the
devadasis of the Presidency of Madras" and "Devadasi association of
the Tinnevelly District." In eloquent language, they pleaded for
their survival. They denied being harlots, and lamented this cruel
stigma attached to them. They confessed a minor degree of
prostitution had crept into their society and sincerely invited that
such women be dealt with in accordance with existing laws. They
maintained: "Our institution is similar to the mutts presided by
sanyasis for the propagation of religion. We can be compared to
female sanyasis who are attached to respective temples. We marry none
but God and become devotees of God." "They described themselves,"
writes Kay Jordan, as "guardian angels of dance and music with a
devotion that bears comparison with the ardor of the pundits reading
Vedas in preference to modern pursuits." They quoted the Saiva Agamas
to substantiate their scriptural origins-"Shiva said: 'To please me
during my puja, arrangements must be made daily for shudda nritta
(dance). This should be danced by females born of such families and
the five acharyas should form the accompaniments.' Since these Agamas
are revered by every Hindu, however modern and educated they are,
what reason can there be for our community not to thrive and exist as
necessary adjuncts of temple service?" They averred Dr. Reddy's
proposed abolition of their tradition punished the many for actions
of a few, and painfully assessed: "In proposing this legislation, the
legislators attempt to do away for ever with our sect. Such
legislation is unparalleled in the civilized world."


They asked for more soulful training: "Give us education-religious,
literary and artistic-so we will occupy once again the same rank
which we held in the past. Teach us the Thevarams of the Saivite
saints and the Nalayaram of the Vaishnavite acharyas. Instill into us
the Gita and the beauty of the Ramayana and explain to us the Agamas
and the rites of worship." This would, they argued, inspire devadasi
girls to model themselves after female saints like "Maitreyi, Gargi
and Manimekalai and the women singers of the Vedas that we might once
again become the preachers of morality and religion... You who boast
of your tender love for small communities, we pray that you may allow
us to live and work out our salvation and manifest ourselves in jnana
and bhakti and keep alight the torch of India's religion amidst the
fogs and storms of increasing materialism and interpret the message
of India to the world."

Despite fervent protests by E. Krishna Iyer and a"pro-art" Madras
contingent-Dr. Reddy and her Anglicized women's leagues prevailed.
Crippling legislation passed against the devadasis in 1927, followed
by total abolition in 1947 [Hinduism Today, Sept. '93]. Dance was
relegated to a secular art, renamed Bharata Natyam, and then adopted,
restylized and nurtured by mostly married women of the brahmin caste.


Part IV includes messages from famous dancers as well as an
explanation of the current rationale of the Anti-Nautch Law from a
Tamil Nadu government spokesperson.

End of forwarded article from:

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/1993/12/1993-12-13.html

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


Temple Dancers

By Bhadra Sinha
Letters to the Editor
Hinduism Today
June 1994

Your coverage on Devadasis [August, September, December, 1993 and
January, 1994] was really informative for talented new dancers.
Devadasis were those who dedicated their lives to their dance not for
money but only because it was a medium through which they could
worship God. Dance, especially classical Indian dance, was given by
Lord Shiva (Tandava) and by Goddess Parvati (Lasya). Devadasis
performed this dance for God, but their dance was appreciated by
people too. People used to come to the temple for puja and also saw
the dance. Because they appreciated the dance, this does not mean
that it should be done for their entertainment.

Dancers should continue to maintain the dignity of dance by keeping
it a medium for worshiping-they should not commercialize it. Dancers
should have the temple as the stage for their dance.

Bhadra Sinha, New Delhi, India

Source - http://www.hinduismtoday.com/1994/6/1994-6-06.html


An Era of Renaissance

By Rishi K. Agarwal
Letters to the Editor
Hinduism Today
June 1994

It's a matter of great satisfaction that such a very useful forum
[Hinduism Today] has been functioning for the last sixteen years-
bringing together the Hindus spread all over the world to communicate
with each other on matters relating to this great religion and
spiritualism. I hope that this will usher in an era of renaissance in
Hinduism worldwide. It's highly gratifying to note that basic tenets
of Hinduism have percolated down to the grass-root levels in the
Western world, which has certainly opened its eyes and ears to the
spiritual teachings and moral principles of our saints and sages who
had dedicated their lives for the good of mankind.

I am amazed by the clarity of understanding and appreciation of a
complex Hindu tradition such as Devadasis shown by Prof. Teresa Hubel
[January, 1994]. I am yet to find such a positive, sensible and
illuminating approach from a co-religionist.

You have given important information on what Hindus are trying to do
in many corners of the world. Accomplishing such a hazardous task is
certainly a wonderful show of immense dedication, sincerity of
purpose and total commitment to what you believe in.

Rishi K. Agarwal, Orissa, India

Source - http://www.hinduismtoday.com/1994/6/1994-6-06.html


Devadasis Forever

By Richard Morey
Letters to the Editor
Hinduism Today
December 1993

Your series of articles about the "Devadasis-India's legendary temple
dancers," is deeply appreciated by everyone here at the society of
Abidance in Truth. We applaud and heartily encourage such excellent
"spiritual journalism." Our ashram maintains a regular schedule of
Indian spiritual cultural events featuring Indian musicians, singers
and dancers. Yes, we do invite into our temple traditional Indian
dancing, such as bharata natyam and other forms. We have found these
events to be quite spiritually inspiring for our members and guests,
and the dancers are always deeply touched by performing in such a
holy setting.

Richard Morey, General Manager Society of Abidance in Truth Santa
Cruz, CA

Source - http://www.hinduismtoday.com/1993/12/1993-12-22.html#gen261

End of forwarded articles from Hinduism Today
http://www.hinduismtoday.com

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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