Thursday, January 21, 2010

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* HINDI MEDIA WEB SITE IN DEVANAGARI http://www.hindimedia.in - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/fbf33c7ec04a1d86?hl=en
* BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN: HE HAS TURNED CAMELOT
REPUBLICAN - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/e4d05debd8f4f31f?hl=en
* BEST OBITUARY FOR LATE COM. JYOTI BASU *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/a1f46d4357ba360c?hl=en
* Chopper Tattoo Fever Design - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/895e2bce42b21bd6?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN MINISTER DRUGGED, HANDCUFFED WIFE, SMOTHERED HER WITH A PILLOW
UNTIL DEAD - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/16af2f9d043c2e33?hl=en
* YOG AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND THE MEANING OF 108 *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/5718e7553f85a67d?hl=en

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TOPIC: HINDI MEDIA WEB SITE IN DEVANAGARI http://www.hindimedia.in
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/fbf33c7ec04a1d86?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 19 2010 9:59 pm
From: Mirza Ghalib


On Jan 19, 11:52 am, hari.ku...@indero.com wrote:
> "I am asking because it has a story on the 1998 massacre of Kashmiri
> Hindus, specifically accusing "Islamic terrorist" for the deed. Now in
> "secular" India Islamic terrorists are never called that way, because it
> will offend the sentiments of Muslims. Instead they are called as
> "militants" or "ultras". It is refreshing to see a spade referred to as
> what else? A spade of course."
>
> That date can be added to the list of mass terror since 1947.  I recall
> however that someone proposed it previously.
>
> We call in that list all spades a spade.  The mass acts of terrorism it
> contains by date of act alone point to events where thousands of
> innocents were murdered and raped and their property destroyed.
>
> We need not mention any label, it is the acts of pure terrorism and evil
> that is the touchstone.  Those doing the acts were terrorists, one and
> all, and those who by word and deed led those terrorists.  Perhaps we
> should name the list the spade terror list.

You build your own terrorist list, let me build mine.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 5:12 am
From: hari.kumar@indero.com


> "I am asking because it has a story on the 1998 massacre of Kashmiri
> Hindus, specifically accusing "Islamic terrorist" for the deed. Now in
> "secular" India Islamic terrorists are never called that way, because
it
> will offend the sentiments of Muslims. Instead they are called as
> "militants" or "ultras". It is refreshing to see a spade referred to
as
> what else? A spade of course."
>
> That date can be added to the list of mass terror since 1947. =A0I
recall
> however that someone proposed it previously.
>
> We call in that list all spades a spade. =A0The mass acts of terrorism
it
> contains by date of act alone point to events where thousands of
> innocents were murdered and raped and their property destroyed.
>
> We need not mention any label, it is the acts of pure terrorism and
evil
> that is the touchstone. =A0Those doing the acts were terrorists, one
and
> all, and those who by word and deed led those terrorists. =A0Perhaps
we
> should name the list the spade terror list.

"You build your own terrorist list, let me build mine."

Ah, but it is not mine, it is a common effort of all in the newsgroups.
The newly named spade terror list encompasses your example already.

What other entries have you, if any? Of course you can list them as
though seperate somehow from the entire history since 1947, but that is
to divorce it from any valid consideration isn't it? That is because
the touchstones are the evil and terror in total done thousands of
innocents in the various acts. What touchstones do you think serve
better?

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TOPIC: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN: HE HAS TURNED CAMELOT
REPUBLICAN
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/e4d05debd8f4f31f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 1:03 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Barack Obama's change we can believe in: he has turned Camelot Republican

By Gerald Warner
The Telegraph, UK
Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Exactly one year ago today Barack Obama was inaugurated as President
of the United States amid scenes more appropriate to the enthronement
of a Pharaoh than the initiation of a democratic leader. Remember the
hysteria, the gushing sycophancy of the liberal media, the Disneyland
hype? One year later, it is all over for the Messiah. Obama has
finally provoked change we can believe in: he has turned
Massachusetts Republican.

Camelot has turned bright red. It is comfortably in the hands of the
GOP. From early in the count Republican Scott Brown established an
unassailable 5-point lead over Martha Coakley, the arrogant Democrat
candidate who epitomised the sense of entitlement that characterises
the members of the liberal establishment. She was a caricature of
Democrat prejudices, down to being a cradle Catholic who championed
abortion -- like her rebarbative predecessor Edward Kennedy. At
2.15am (our time) the Boston Globe reported that Coakley had
telephoned Brown to concede defeat. That historic conversation
effectively called time on the Obama administration.

It takes a real mental effort to come to terms with the notion of a
man named Brown being an effective and worthwhile politician, but in
Massachusetts that is the reality. Brown created an electoral
insurgency. He articulated all the resentment of decent Americans
against the liberal establishment. In doing so he has overturned the
Democrats' 60-seat presence in the Senate which until last night made
them invulnerable to a Republican filibuster and made it possible for
them to railroad Obama's insane, statist, totalitarian health care
"reforms" through Congress.

No more. If the Democrats even attempted to use procedural tricks to
rush the healthcare dog's breakfast through before Brown takes his
seat, America would not stand for such a blatant evasion of the
popular will on so controversial a measure. It simply isn't going to
happen. Nor is any of the rest of the Obama fantasy. The Republicans
are now poised to take control of the House in November. Obama has
had his year of power, but now he is a busted flush.

And what a year it was. Retreat, abasement and blunders in every area
of foreign policy, from North Korea to sell-out to Russia on nuclear
weapons. This blog always insisted Obama would be a one-term
president. Even I, however, had not counted on his being a one-year
wonder. Even Anne of the Thousand Days had a longer run than that.
Americans have proved they can spot a phoney in 12 months. That
shames Britain's record: the deluded electorate here voted three
times for the Great Charlatan Blair.

To see the pricking of the Obama balloon is delightful.
Congratulations, America. Happy anniversary, Mr President.

More at:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100022917/barack-obamas-change-we-can-believe-in-he-has-turned-camelot-republican/

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 9:27 am
From: "harmony"


super socialist obama makes keynesian model of economy look conservative.
govt spending is never a solution out of economic mess.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100119Hxp0i2qT45h5HDbLdI86yp0@KVT4r...
> Barack Obama's change we can believe in: he has turned Camelot Republican
>
> By Gerald Warner
> The Telegraph, UK
> Wednesday, January 20, 2010
>
> Exactly one year ago today Barack Obama was inaugurated as President
> of the United States amid scenes more appropriate to the enthronement
> of a Pharaoh than the initiation of a democratic leader. Remember the
> hysteria, the gushing sycophancy of the liberal media, the Disneyland
> hype? One year later, it is all over for the Messiah. Obama has
> finally provoked change we can believe in: he has turned
> Massachusetts Republican.
>
> Camelot has turned bright red. It is comfortably in the hands of the
> GOP. From early in the count Republican Scott Brown established an
> unassailable 5-point lead over Martha Coakley, the arrogant Democrat
> candidate who epitomised the sense of entitlement that characterises
> the members of the liberal establishment. She was a caricature of
> Democrat prejudices, down to being a cradle Catholic who championed
> abortion -- like her rebarbative predecessor Edward Kennedy. At
> 2.15am (our time) the Boston Globe reported that Coakley had
> telephoned Brown to concede defeat. That historic conversation
> effectively called time on the Obama administration.
>
> It takes a real mental effort to come to terms with the notion of a
> man named Brown being an effective and worthwhile politician, but in
> Massachusetts that is the reality. Brown created an electoral
> insurgency. He articulated all the resentment of decent Americans
> against the liberal establishment. In doing so he has overturned the
> Democrats' 60-seat presence in the Senate which until last night made
> them invulnerable to a Republican filibuster and made it possible for
> them to railroad Obama's insane, statist, totalitarian health care
> "reforms" through Congress.
>
> No more. If the Democrats even attempted to use procedural tricks to
> rush the healthcare dog's breakfast through before Brown takes his
> seat, America would not stand for such a blatant evasion of the
> popular will on so controversial a measure. It simply isn't going to
> happen. Nor is any of the rest of the Obama fantasy. The Republicans
> are now poised to take control of the House in November. Obama has
> had his year of power, but now he is a busted flush.
>
> And what a year it was. Retreat, abasement and blunders in every area
> of foreign policy, from North Korea to sell-out to Russia on nuclear
> weapons. This blog always insisted Obama would be a one-term
> president. Even I, however, had not counted on his being a one-year
> wonder. Even Anne of the Thousand Days had a longer run than that.
> Americans have proved they can spot a phoney in 12 months. That
> shames Britain's record: the deluded electorate here voted three
> times for the Great Charlatan Blair.
>
> To see the pricking of the Obama balloon is delightful.
> Congratulations, America. Happy anniversary, Mr President.
>
> More at:
> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100022917/barack-obamas-change-we-can-believe-in-he-has-turned-camelot-republican/
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 6:29 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


It's amazing that voters fell for the Dem con game and elected the Marxist.
Of course now many of them are suffering from buyer's remorse.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b573cff$0$12445$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> super socialist obama makes keynesian model of economy look conservative.
> govt spending is never a solution out of economic mess.
>
> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
> message news:20100119Hxp0i2qT45h5HDbLdI86yp0@KVT4r...
> > Barack Obama's change we can believe in: he has turned Camelot Republican
> >
> > By Gerald Warner
> > The Telegraph, UK
> > Wednesday, January 20, 2010
> >
> > Exactly one year ago today Barack Obama was inaugurated as President
> > of the United States amid scenes more appropriate to the enthronement
> > of a Pharaoh than the initiation of a democratic leader. Remember the
> > hysteria, the gushing sycophancy of the liberal media, the Disneyland
> > hype? One year later, it is all over for the Messiah. Obama has
> > finally provoked change we can believe in: he has turned
> > Massachusetts Republican.
> >
> > Camelot has turned bright red. It is comfortably in the hands of the
> > GOP. From early in the count Republican Scott Brown established an
> > unassailable 5-point lead over Martha Coakley, the arrogant Democrat
> > candidate who epitomised the sense of entitlement that characterises
> > the members of the liberal establishment. She was a caricature of
> > Democrat prejudices, down to being a cradle Catholic who championed
> > abortion -- like her rebarbative predecessor Edward Kennedy. At
> > 2.15am (our time) the Boston Globe reported that Coakley had
> > telephoned Brown to concede defeat. That historic conversation
> > effectively called time on the Obama administration.
> >
> > It takes a real mental effort to come to terms with the notion of a
> > man named Brown being an effective and worthwhile politician, but in
> > Massachusetts that is the reality. Brown created an electoral
> > insurgency. He articulated all the resentment of decent Americans
> > against the liberal establishment. In doing so he has overturned the
> > Democrats' 60-seat presence in the Senate which until last night made
> > them invulnerable to a Republican filibuster and made it possible for
> > them to railroad Obama's insane, statist, totalitarian health care
> > "reforms" through Congress.
> >
> > No more. If the Democrats even attempted to use procedural tricks to
> > rush the healthcare dog's breakfast through before Brown takes his
> > seat, America would not stand for such a blatant evasion of the
> > popular will on so controversial a measure. It simply isn't going to
> > happen. Nor is any of the rest of the Obama fantasy. The Republicans
> > are now poised to take control of the House in November. Obama has
> > had his year of power, but now he is a busted flush.
> >
> > And what a year it was. Retreat, abasement and blunders in every area
> > of foreign policy, from North Korea to sell-out to Russia on nuclear
> > weapons. This blog always insisted Obama would be a one-term
> > president. Even I, however, had not counted on his being a one-year
> > wonder. Even Anne of the Thousand Days had a longer run than that.
> > Americans have proved they can spot a phoney in 12 months. That
> > shames Britain's record: the deluded electorate here voted three
> > times for the Great Charlatan Blair.
> >
> > To see the pricking of the Obama balloon is delightful.
> > Congratulations, America. Happy anniversary, Mr President.
> >
> > More at:
> >
> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100022917/barack-obamas-change
> -we-can-believe-in-he-has-turned-camelot-republican/
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> > educational
> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> > not
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> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> > current
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> > are
> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> > article.
> >
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>
>

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TOPIC: BEST OBITUARY FOR LATE COM. JYOTI BASU *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 7:36 am
From: "harmony"


some say the cadaver will be given z security, commie leaders cost a lot,
dead or alive, to taxpayers.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100118Oi77u8Q1i5inJ7576FHB9Jp@V4FxI...
> As long as he doesn't end up in a cloning lab it'd be okay.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b54d1fd$0$12427$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> are they gong to bury him like commies are in russia, or put send him in
>> the
>> lap of agni? some say he is going to medical college where my hope is
>> students will learn what not to learn.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Best Obituary for Late Com. Jyoti Basu
>> >
>> >
>>
>> http://bengalspotlight.blogspot.com/2010/01/best-obituary-for-late-com-jyoti-basu.html
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>>
>>

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TOPIC: Chopper Tattoo Fever Design
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 7:58 am
From: haerul anam


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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 8:06 pm
From: Danny Christianto


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TOPIC: CHRISTIAN MINISTER DRUGGED, HANDCUFFED WIFE, SMOTHERED HER WITH A
PILLOW UNTIL DEAD
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 6:36 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Jesus would restate his terrorist mission:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b566994$0$12423$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> what would jesus say?

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Ex-mistress says minister admitted killing wife
> >
> > Vanessa Bulls testifies in 19th District court in the trial of former
> > Baptist AP . . .
> >
> > By Angela K. Brown, Associated Press Writer
> > The Associated Press
> > Tuesday, January 19, 2010
> >
> > Waco, Texas - A minister drugged his wife, handcuffed her to the bed
> > under the guise of spicing up their marriage, then smothered her with
> > a pillow until she died, his ex-mistress testified Tuesday at his
> > murder trial.
> >
> > Vanessa Bulls said Matt Baker, then a Baptist preacher, had talked
> > about killing his wife and making it look like a suicide. His wife,
> > Kari Baker, had previously attempted suicide, Bulls said.
> >
> > Bulls told jurors she did not help Baker plan the murder or
> > participate in it, but she never reported it to authorities because
> > she was afraid of exposing the affair that she said began about two
> > months before Kari Baker's 2006 death. Bulls, 27, also said she was
> > afraid of being arrested for knowing about Baker's plans but not
> > stopping him.
> >
> > Bulls said she understood "what he was capable of" but tried not to
> > think about it as she continued seeing Baker for about three months
> > after his wife's death. She said Baker told her he was happy with her
> > so he would not harm her.
> >
> > "He was and still is a manipulative liar who took me in my vulnerable
> > state and made me believe everything he said," said Bulls, who has
> > been granted immunity from prosecution.
> >
> > Baker's attorney Guy James Gray told jurors last week that Kari
> > Baker's death, initially ruled a suicide, only became a murder case
> > after authorities found out about his affair. Baker, who faces up to
> > life in prison if convicted, has maintained his wife committed
> > suicide because of severe depression.
> >
> > Under cross-examination, Gray asked about the account Bulls gave to
> > several law enforcement authorities over the last four years,
> > including some details that differed from her testimony Tuesday.
> >
> > Bulls acknowledged that during those interviews she had repeatedly
> > denied the affair and knowing anything about whether Baker killed his
> > wife. She even said she "didn't tell the whole story" to the grand
> > jury but didn't explain why or when she decided to do so.
> >
> > "He's never going to admit guilt, even if he's found guilty," Bulls
> > told jurors. "I'm setting things right."
> >
> > Bulls said she met Baker in the fall of 2005 at church and that their
> > affair began in February 2006 after he convinced her to have
> > counseling sessions because of her divorce. She said Baker disparaged
> > his wife, making fun of her weight and saying she was a horrible
> > mother to their two children because she was depressed about the
> > cancer death of their middle child.
> >
> > "He said he wanted her out of his life," Bulls said, adding that
> > Baker told her divorce was not an option because it would mean he
> > could never preach again and he was concerned that Kari might fight
> > for custody of their kids.
> >
> > Bulls said Baker talked of various ways to kill his wife: a drive-by
> > shooting, hanging her and making it appear to be suicide, and
> > tampering with her car brakes. Once when Kari was late arriving home,
> > Baker told Bulls that he "started getting excited that maybe she did
> > have a wreck and he wouldn't have to do anything," the woman
> > testified.
> >
> > Baker even put drugs in his wife's milkshake one night but she
> > complained that it tasted funny and didn't drink it, Bulls said. He
> > also told Bulls that he ordered Chloroform online, Bulls told jurors.
> > He obtained the prescription sleep aid Ambien secretly from his
> > mother-in-law's house, Bulls said.
> >
> > She said Baker decided to kill his wife on a night she was trying to
> > spice up the marriage. Baker said he emptied the casings of sexual
> > enhancement drugs he referred to as "horse pills" then refilled them
> > with Ambien, Bulls testified. She said Baker told her that his wife
> > took the pills, unaware that he had switched the medicine. He took
> > the real pills.
> >
> > Bulls said Baker handcuffed his wife to the bed, kissed her until she
> > fell asleep and then kissed her forehead, telling her to give their
> > deceased daughter a hug or kiss for him. Baker then smothered her
> > with a pillow, but she gasped for breath, so he put his hand over the
> > pillow directly over her nose until she died, Bulls testified.
> >
> > According to Bulls, Baker said he then typed and printed a suicide
> > note and rubbed Kari's hands on it in case authorities tested for
> > fingerprints.
> >
> > Bulls said she began to feel trapped with Baker because he said he
> > was a preacher, so no one would believe her if she told. Then she
> > broke up with him and urged him to turn himself in.
> >
> > "He became irate. ... He said, 'I killed my wife for you and now
> > you're leaving?'" Bulls told jurors.
> >
> > She said about a month later, Baker called to ask how she was, in
> > what she described as "the creepiest phone call of my life" because
> > he sounded completely normal. She said she reiterated that she wanted
> > nothing to do with him.
> >
> > "He said, 'I miss you.' ... I said, 'You've got to turn yourself in.'
> > He said, 'God has forgiven me.'"
> >
> > Bulls' testimony was to continue Tuesday afternoon.
> >
> > More at:
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/ap_on_re_us/us_minister_murder_trial
> >
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> > Om Shanti
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TOPIC: YOG AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND THE MEANING OF 108 *** Jai Maharaj posts
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Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 8:37 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Yoga At The Speed Of Light
And The Meaning Of 108

By Linda Johnsen

It is amazing how much Western science has taught us. Today, for
example, kids in grammar school learn that the sun is 93 million
miles from the earth and that the speed of light is 186,000 miles per
hours. Yoga may teach us about our Higher Self, but it can't supply
this kind of information about physics or astronomy.

Or can it?

Professor Subhash Kak of Louisiana State University recently called
my attention to a remarkable statement by Sayana, a fourteenth
century Indian scholar. In his commentary on a hymn in the Rig Veda,
the oldest and perhaps most mystical text ever composed in India,
Sayana has this to say: "With deep respect, I bow to the sun, who
travels 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha."

A yojana is about nine American miles; a nimesha is 16/75 of a
second. Mathematically challenged readers, get out your calculators!

2,202 yojanas x 9 miles x 75 - 8 nimeshas = 185,794 m.p.s.

Basically, Sayana is saying that sunlight travels at 186,000 miles
per second! How could a Vedic scholar who died in 1387 A.D. have
known the correct figure for the speed of light? If this was just a
wild guess it's the most amazing coincidence in the history of
science!

The yoga tradition is full of such coincidences. Take for instance
the mala many yoga students wear around their neck. Since these
rosaries are used to keep track of the number of mantras a person is
repeating, students often ask why they have 108 beads instead of 100.
Part of the reason is that the mala represent the ecliptic, the path
of the sun and moon across the sky. Yogis divide the ecliptic into 27
equal sections called nakshatras, and each of these into four equal
sectors called padas, or "steps," marking the 108 steps that the sun
and moon take through heaven.

Each is associated with a particular blessing force, with which you
align yourself as you turn the beads.

Traditionally, yoga students stop at the 109th "guru bead," flip the
mala around in their hand, and continue reciting their mantra as they
move backward through the beads. The guru bead represents the summer
and winter solstices, when the sun appears to stop in its course and
reverse directions. In the yoga tradition we learn that we're deeply
interconnected with all of nature. Using a mala is a symbolic way of
connecting ourselves with the cosmic cycles governing our universe.

But Professor Kak points out other coincidences: The distance between
the earth and the sun is approximately 108 times the sun's diameter.
The diameter of the sun is about 108 times the earth's diameter. And
the distance between the earth and the moon is 108 times the moon's
diameter.

Could this be the reason the ancient sages considered 108 such a
sacred number? If the microcosm (us) mirrors the macrocosm (the solar
system), then maybe you could say there are 108 steps between our
ordinary human awareness and the divine light at the center of our
being. Each time we chant another mantra as our mala beads slip
through our fingers, we are taking another step toward our own inner
sun.

As we read through ancient Indian texts, we find so much the sages of
antiquity could not possibly have known-but did. While our European
and Middle Eastern ancestors claimed that the universe was created
about 6,000 years ago, the yogis have always maintained that our
present cosmos is billions of years old, and that it's just one of
many such universes which have arisen and dissolved in the vastness
of eternity.

In fact the Puranas, encyclopedias of yogic lore thousands of years
old, describe the birth of our solar system out of a "milk ocean,"
the Milky Way. Through the will of the Creator, they tell us, a
vortex shaped like a lotus arose from the navel of eternity. It was
called Hiranya Garbha, the shining womb. It gradually coalesced into
our world, but will perish some day billions of years hence when the
sun expands to many times it present size, swallowing all life on
earth. In the end, the Puranas say, the ashes of the earth will be
blown into space by the cosmic wind. Today we known this is a
scientifically accurate, if poetic, description of the fate of our
planet.

The Surya Siddhanta is the oldest surviving astronomical text in the
Indian tradition. Some Western scholars date it to perhaps the fifth
or sixth centuries A.D., though the text itself claims to represent a
tradition much, much older. It explains that the earth is shaped like
a ball, and states that at the very opposite side of the planet from
India is a great city where the sun is rising at the same time it
sets in India. In this city, the Surya Siddhanta claims, lives a race
of siddhas, or advanced spiritual adepts. If you trace the globe of
the earth around to the exact opposite side of India, you'll find
Mexico. Is it possible that the ancient Indians were well aware of
the great sages/astronomers of Central America many centuries before
Columbus discovered America?

Knowing the unknowable

To us today it seems impossible that the speed of light or the fate
of our solar system could be determined without advanced astronomical
instruments. How could the writers of old Sanskrit texts have known
the unknowable? In searching for an explanation we first need to
understand that these ancient scientists were not just intellectuals,
they were practicing yogis. The very first lines of the Surya
Siddhanta, for of the Golden Age a great astronomer named Maya
desired to learn the secrets of the heavens, so he first performed
rigorous yogic practices. Then the answers to his questions appeared
in his mind in an intuitive flash.

Does this sound unlikely? Yoga Sutra 3:26-28 states that through,
samyama (concentration, meditation, and unbroken mental absorption)
on the sun, moon, and pole star, we can gain knowledge of the planets
and stars. Sutra 3:33 clarifies, saying: "Through keenly developed
intuition, everything can be known." Highly developed intuition is
called pratibha in yoga. It is accessible only to those who have
completely stilled their mind, focusing their attention on one object
with laser-like intensity. Those who have limited their mind are no
longer limited to the fragments of knowledge supplied by the five
senses. All knowledge becomes accessible to them.

"There are [those] who would say that consciousness, acting on
itself, can find universal knowledge," Professor Kak admits. "In fact
this is the traditional Indian view."

Perhaps the ancient sages didn't need advanced astronomical
instruments. After all, they had yoga.

- Linda Johnsen

Source: http://www.yimag.org

More at:
http://www.lovearth.net/108.htm

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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