Tuesday, January 19, 2010

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* VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD OF AMERICA APPEALS YOU TO HELP THE VICTIMS OF
EARTHQUAKE IN HAITI *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/fd58994f6c3936a9?hl=en
* DESTROYER OF WEST BENGAL *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/7aceb451113914e8?hl=en
* BEST OBITUARY FOR LATE COM. JYOTI BASU *** Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/a1f46d4357ba360c?hl=en
* hunter's buddy uses bad language, gets 3 months - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/cda0e77917568da4?hl=en
* Thank God we did not fall pray to Gandhigiri - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/912a3b68deaed65a?hl=en
* kerala feels left behind: strikes are a 2nd nature to bengalis, they don't
have to be planned any more. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/00e3c585d54be650?hl=en
* what's a turnoff - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/8e337a11ad04c9fd?hl=en
* PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/f2bf4b3f6e42b80d?hl=en
* ONE IN SEVEN SCIENTISTS SAYS COLLEAGUES FAKE DATA - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/4e76771b1559387b?hl=en
* BIHAR CLOCKED UP A GIDDY GROWTH RATE OF 11.03% - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/9f96fa39cb98a563?hl=en
* BRITAIN AND U.S. CONSIDER ASKING BHARAT TO TRAIN AFGHAN NATIONAL POLICE - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/ba679a63cf78ae25?hl=en
* **** Vote For Isha: Educate India campaign - every vote makes a difference **
** - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/5825adb62d39947f?hl=en

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TOPIC: VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD OF AMERICA APPEALS YOU TO HELP THE VICTIMS OF
EARTHQUAKE IN HAITI *** Jai Maharaj posts
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/fd58994f6c3936a9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:15 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Don't be so sure about Christian missionaries having fled from
Haiti. They may still be there among the looters.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b54d601$0$12432$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> missionaries have fled coop.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Vishwa Hindu Parishad Of America Appeals You To Help The Victims Of
> > Earthquake In Haiti
> >
> > http://www.vhp-america.org/appeals/haiti_earthquake.html
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
>

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TOPIC: DESTROYER OF WEST BENGAL *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:21 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


A Basu swamp that swallows others' wealth and freedom maybe.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b54e8ca$0$12423$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> he probably not done destroying. how much is it going to cost the taxpayers
> until he really is gone? is enterpreneur arindam planning a basughat?

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Destroyer of West Bengal
> >
> > By Kanchan Gupta
> > The Pioneer
> > Sunday, January 17, 2010
> >
> > Had it been Jyoti Banerjee lying unattended in a filthy general ward
> > of SSKM Hospital in Kolkata and not Jyoti Basu in the state-of-the-
> > art ICCU of AMRI Hospital, among the swankiest and most expensive
> > super-speciality healthcare facilities in West Bengal, Prime Minister
> > Manmohan Singh would not have bothered to arrange for a video-
> > conference for top doctors at AIIMS to compare notes with those
> > attending on the former Chief Minister of West Bengal.
> >
> > Jyoti Banerjee, like most of us, spent his working life paying taxes
> > to the Government. Jyoti Basu spent the better part of his life
> > living off tax-payers' money -- the conscience of the veteran Marxist
> > was never pricked by the fact that he appropriated for himself a
> > lifestyle shunned by his comrades and denied to the people of a State
> > whose fate he presided over for a quarter century. Kalachand Roy laid
> > what we know today as Odisha to waste in the 16th century; Jyoti Basu
> > was the 20th century's Kala Pahad who led West Bengal from despair to
> > darkness, literally and metaphorically.
> >
> > Uncharitable as it may sound, but there really is no reason to nurse
> > fond memories of Jyoti Basu. In fact, there are no fond memories to
> > recall of those days when hopelessness permeated the present and the
> > future appeared bleak. Entire generations of educated middle-class
> > Bengalis were forced to seek refuge in other States or migrate to
> > America as Jyoti Basu worked overtime to first destroy West Bengal's
> > economy, chase out Bengali talent and then hand over a disinherited
> > State to Burrabazar traders and wholesale merchants who overnight
> > became 'industrialists' with a passion for asset-stripping and
> > investing their 'profits' elsewhere. A State that was earlier
> > referred to as 'Sheffield of the East' was rendered by Jyoti Basu
> > into a vast stretch of wasteland; the Oxford English Dictionary would
> > have been poorer by a word had he not made 'gherao' into an
> > officially-sanctioned instrument of coercion; 'load-shedding' would
> > have never entered into our popular lexicon had he not made it a part
> > of daily life in West Bengal though he ensured Hindustan Park, where
> > he stayed, was spared power cuts. It would have been churlish to
> > grudge him the good life had he not exerted to deny it to others,
> > except of course his son Chandan Basu who was last in the news for
> > cheating on taxes that should have been paid on his imported fancy
> > car.
> >
> > Let it be said, and said bluntly, that Jyoti Basu's record in office,
> > first as Deputy Chief Minister in two successive United Front
> > Governments beginning 1967 (for all practical purposes he was the de
> > facto Chief Minister with a hapless Ajoy Mukherjee reduced to
> > indulging in Gandhigiri to make his presence felt) and later as Chief
> > Minister for nearly 25 years at the head of the Left Front Government
> > which has been in power for 32 years now, the "longest elected
> > Communist Government" as party commissars untiringly point out to the
> > naïve and the novitiate, is a terrible tale of calculated destruction
> > of West Bengal in the name of ideology. It's easy to criticise the
> > CPI(M) for politicising the police force and converting it into a
> > goons brigade, but it was Jyoti Basu who initiated the process. It
> > was he who instructed them, as Deputy Chief Minister during the
> > disastrous UF regime, to play the role of foot soldiers of the
> > CPI(M), first by not acting against party cadre on the rampage, and
> > then by playing an unabashedly partisan role in industrial and
> > agrarian disputes.
> >
> > The fulsome praise that is heaped on Jyoti Basu today -- he is
> > variously described by party loyalists and those enamoured of
> > bhadralok Marxists as a 'humane administrator' and 'farsighted
> > leader' -- is entirely misleading if not undeserving. Within the
> > first seven months of the United Front coming to power, 43,947
> > workers were laid off and thousands more rendered jobless as
> > factories were shut down following gheraos and strikes instigated and
> > endorsed by him. The flight of capital in those initial days of
> > emergent Marxist power amounted to Rs 2,500 million. In 1967, there
> > were 438 'industrial disputes' involving 165,000 workers and
> > resulting in the loss of five million man hours. By 1969, there were
> > 710 'industrial disputes' involving 645,000 workers and a loss of 8.5
> > million man hours. That was a taste of things to come in the
> > following decades. By the time Jyoti Basu demitted office, West
> > Bengal had nothing to boast of except closed mills and shuttered
> > factories; every institution and agency of the State had been
> > subverted under his tutelage; and, the civil administration had been
> > converted into an extension counter of the CPI(M) with babus happy to
> > be used as doormats.
> >
> > After every outrage, every criminal misdeed committed by Marxist
> > goons or the police while he was Chief Minister, Jyoti Basu would
> > crudely respond with a brusque "Emon to hoyei thaakey" (or, as Donald
> > Rumsfeld would famously say, "Stuff happens!"). He did not brook any
> > criticism of the Marich Jhapi massacre by his police in 1979 when
> > refugees from erstwhile East Pakistan were shot dead in cold blood.
> > Till date, nobody knows for sure how many died in that slaughter for
> > Jyoti Basu never allowed an independent inquiry. Neither did the man
> > whose heart bled so profusely for the lost souls of Nandigram
> > hesitate to justify the butchery of April 30, 1982 when 16 monks and
> > a nun of the Ananda Marg order were set ablaze in south Kolkata by a
> > mob of Marxist thugs. The man who led that murderous lot was known
> > for his proximity to Jyoti Basu, a fact that the CPI(M) would now
> > hasten to deny. Nor did Jyoti Basu wince when the police shot dead 13
> > Congress activists a short distance from Writers' Building on July
> > 21, 1993; he later justified the police action, saying it was
> > necessary to enforce the writ of the state. Yet, he wouldn't allow
> > the police to act every time Muslims ran riot, most infamously after
> > Mohammedan Sporting Club lost a football match.
> >
> > Did Jyoti Basu, who never smiled in public lest he was accused of
> > displaying human emotions, ever spare a thought for those who
> > suffered terribly during his rule? Was he sensitive to the plight of
> > those who were robbed of their lives, limbs and dignity by the lumpen
> > proletariat which kept him in power? Did his heart cry out when women
> > health workers were gang-raped and then two of them murdered by his
> > party cadre on May 17, 1990 at Bantala on the eastern margins of
> > Kolkata? Or when office-bearers of the Kolkata Police Association,
> > set up under his patronage, raped Nehar Banu, a poor pavement
> > dweller, at Phulbagan police station in 1992? "Emon to hoyei
> > thaakey," the revered Marxist would say, and then go on to slyly
> > insinuate that the victims deserved what they got.
> >
> > As a Bengali, I grieve for the wasted decades but for which West
> > Bengal, with its huge pool of talent, could have led India from the
> > front. I feel nothing for Jyoti Basu.
> >
> > - Follow the writer on: http://twitter.com/KanchanGupta. Blog on
> > this and other issues at http://kanchangupta.blogspot.com. Write to
> > him at kanchangupta[AT]rocketmail[DOT]com
> >
> > http://www.dailypioneer.com/228148/Destroyer-of-West-Bengal.html
> >
> > More at:
> > http://www.dailypioneer.com
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
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TOPIC: BEST OBITUARY FOR LATE COM. JYOTI BASU *** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:24 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


As long as he doesn't end up in a cloning lab it'd be okay.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b54d1fd$0$12427$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> are they gong to bury him like commies are in russia, or put send him in the
> lap of agni? some say he is going to medical college where my hope is
> students will learn what not to learn.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Best Obituary for Late Com. Jyoti Basu
> >
> >
> http://bengalspotlight.blogspot.com/2010/01/best-obituary-for-late-com-jyoti-basu.html
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
>
>

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TOPIC: hunter's buddy uses bad language, gets 3 months
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:27 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


That would put me in a unique position since his prosecutors will thank me too.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b54d897$0$12425$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> smart peole learn from other experience - which might leave arindam out; but
> he should thank you for the caution.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Arindam Banerjee also uses bad language. It's time for him to go as well.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b50cfa2$0$5353$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> An Australian court has sentenced Paul John Brogden of Ballarat in
> >> Western
> >> Victoria to serve three months in jail after he threatened to kill an
> >> Indian
> >> taxi driver.
> >>
> >> Brogden, 48, pleaded guilty in the Ballarat Magistrates' Court to two
> >> counts
> >> of unlawful assault, one count of criminal damage to the value of
> >> Australian
> >> $1,520 and making threats to kill. The court heard that Brogden had
> >> called
> >> for a taxi at approximately 2 am on Friday morning, after an extended
> >> binge
> >> drinking session.
> >>
> >> Brogden became verbally abusive toward Satheesh Thatipamula, 24, after he
> >> believed the driver had taken him the wrong way, according to The
> >> Australian
> >> daily. He allegedly said, "When you drop me off I will kill you, you
> >> mother
> >> f**king Indian, I will kill you, you f**king Indian b*****."
> >>
> >> Brogden then followed Thatipamula into a store, before assaulting the
> >> driver
> >> and another man, who was pumping petrol there.
> >>
> >> Brogden's lawyer, Philip Lynch, said his client had consumed so much
> >> alcohol
> >> that he could not remember the events of the night.
> >>
> >> The magistrate also hit out at binge drinking, saying "alcohol fueled
> >> violence in our community is a real scourge".
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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TOPIC: Thank God we did not fall pray to Gandhigiri
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:27 pm
From: "harmony"

"Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:hj2taa$npe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> harmony wrote:
>> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:hj28d0$58d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> harmony wrote:
>>>> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:hiul2i$e97$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Oh thanks I think you recommended it before. I will try to sign up
>>>>>>> for it so who knows, maybe my next post will be from it (as long as
>>>>>>> you can use them on windows mail that is)
>>>>>> Well I signed up, let's hope this one will download all the posts.
>>>>> It does, it can be a little slower at times, but in general is a much
>>>>> more reliable service. By the way you're still going through giganews
>>>>> in this post, I take it you haven't cut over yet?
>>>> of course, it is no cure for your ignorance.
>>>
>>> Ignorant of your parsitic ways? Not at all, not only have I picked them
>>> from a mile away, but so have plenty of Indians commented on them as
>>> well. And I mean Indians, you know, people that live in India, not
>>> parisitic life-forms like you that refuse to live in India because you
>>> love living in the West yet fraudulantly claim to be Indian, when you'd
>>> know less about India these days than most tourists. You're pathetic
>>> really.
>>
>> ok now having exhibited youe ignorance some more, you have proved to be
>> stupid, uncouth too.
>
>
> By defining what you are? Not at all you stateless parasite.

exhibit "n" of your stupidity.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:37 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


"Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:hj2taa$npe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> harmony wrote:
>> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:hj28d0$58d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> harmony wrote:
>>>> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:hiul2i$e97$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Oh thanks I think you recommended it before. I will try to sign up
>>>>>>> for it so who knows, maybe my next post will be from it (as long as
>>>>>>> you can use them on windows mail that is)
>>>>>> Well I signed up, let's hope this one will download all the posts.
>>>>> It does, it can be a little slower at times, but in general is a much
>>>>> more reliable service. By the way you're still going through giganews
>>>>> in this post, I take it you haven't cut over yet?
>>>> of course, it is no cure for your ignorance.
>>>
>>> Ignorant of your parsitic ways? Not at all, not only have I picked them
>>> from a mile away, but so have plenty of Indians commented on them as
>>> well. And I mean Indians, you know, people that live in India, not
>>> parisitic life-forms like you that refuse to live in India because you
>>> love living in the West yet fraudulantly claim to be Indian, when you'd
>>> know less about India these days than most tourists. You're pathetic
>>> really.
>>
>> ok now having exhibited youe ignorance some more, you have proved to be
>> stupid, uncouth too.
>
>
> By defining what you are? Not at all you stateless parasite.

I still can't read Harmony's posts under the new server you recommended. But
it's no loss.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:42 pm
From: Hunter


Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
>
> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:hj2taa$npe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> harmony wrote:
>>> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:hj28d0$58d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> harmony wrote:
>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter01@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hiul2i$e97$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> Oh thanks I think you recommended it before. I will try to sign
>>>>>>>> up for it so who knows, maybe my next post will be from it (as
>>>>>>>> long as you can use them on windows mail that is)
>>>>>>> Well I signed up, let's hope this one will download all the posts.
>>>>>> It does, it can be a little slower at times, but in general is a
>>>>>> much more reliable service. By the way you're still going through
>>>>>> giganews in this post, I take it you haven't cut over yet?
>>>>> of course, it is no cure for your ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> Ignorant of your parsitic ways? Not at all, not only have I picked
>>>> them from a mile away, but so have plenty of Indians commented on
>>>> them as well. And I mean Indians, you know, people that live in
>>>> India, not parisitic life-forms like you that refuse to live in
>>>> India because you love living in the West yet fraudulantly claim to
>>>> be Indian, when you'd know less about India these days than most
>>>> tourists. You're pathetic really.
>>>
>>> ok now having exhibited youe ignorance some more, you have proved to
>>> be stupid, uncouth too.
>>
>>
>> By defining what you are? Not at all you stateless parasite.
>
> I still can't read Harmony's posts under the new server you recommended.
> But it's no loss.


You're still posting from Giganews so presumably you're still reading
from Giganews? And no, you're not missing much with the parasites posts
being dropped.


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TOPIC: kerala feels left behind: strikes are a 2nd nature to bengalis, they
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:30 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4b54d9ef$0$12443$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <4b4f6070$0$5347$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> >> > In article <4b4e1783$0$5349$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> West Bengal strike was spontaneous, historic, says Congress (Second
> >> >> Lead)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/west-bengal-strike-was-spontaneous-historic-says-congress-second-lead_100219414.html
> >
> >> > Exercise for the reader [insert hand symbol here, as in the deshee
> >> > textbooks
> >> > in Bharat, back in the day]: What will a union of folks from Bengal
> >> > and Kerala produce -- Kerbungees or Bungkaarees? Note: I did not
> >> > write Kerbhungees.
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> > Om Shanti
> >
> >> the bungs have practised this strike thing so often over the decades,
> >> they
> >> now have got it pat down, they can do it spontaneously.
> >>
> >> the kerals need a little time putting their heads together at a pub:
> >> "hey bro, whatdya think of throwing rocks tomorrow on that hindu
> >> taxpayers'
> >> property?"
> >> "you mean govt property? but why not now?".
> >> "am busy, man"
> >> "with what?"
> >> "strange you must ask, fool. here, with daroo of course."
> >> hee hhee haah haaa.
> >> "so, tomorrow?"
> >> "first thing in the morning".

> > The morning comes. As the first Bungkaaree collects rocks for
> > throwing the other, the drunk, is seen collecting empty booze bottles
> > to make Molotov cocktails. - Jai Maharaj

> did you know that the rock prices and bottle prices are going up in kerala?

Meanwhile the quality of there hits rock bottom.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:37 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4a25ddc1$0$23765$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> > In article <h0168d02mo8@drn.newsguy.com>,
> > Evangelist Supada <evangelist.supada@I_hatehindus.com> posted:

> >> In article <4a24107a$0$23740$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>, harmony
> >> says...
> >>>
> >> > it's a brown man in funny kirastani robe, holding bible.

> >> 100% agreed. a brown ch*tiya talking about issah and mariam is
> >> utter crap. Those dumbass don't realize that Christianity as a
> >> religion is totally alien to indian culture. It originated in
> >> some f***ing arab land and that's where the trash should have
> >> been left.
> >>
> >> Also brown desis are the lowest in the pecking order of
> >> kirastanism.

> > Their white masters also treat them like scum, usually.
> > Christianity is a destructive illegal alien in Bharat, as
> > is Islam. They must be expelled. - Jai Maharaj

> if you do a google search with "kirastanism", you will not find one link
> that is in favor of kirastanism for brown people or india.

As it turns out Christianity is undesirable for people of all colors, what
with Christian priests raping young boys and girls throughout the world.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:49 pm
From: "harmony"

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100118DROd8uF6FwW8oHul8vzUQ6e@Rq9C9...
> In article <4a25ddc1$0$23765$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>> > In article <h0168d02mo8@drn.newsguy.com>,
>> > Evangelist Supada <evangelist.supada@I_hatehindus.com> posted:
>
>> >> In article <4a24107a$0$23740$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>, harmony
>> >> says...
>> >>>
>> >> > it's a brown man in funny kirastani robe, holding bible.
>
>> >> 100% agreed. a brown ch*tiya talking about issah and mariam is
>> >> utter crap. Those dumbass don't realize that Christianity as a
>> >> religion is totally alien to indian culture. It originated in
>> >> some f***ing arab land and that's where the trash should have
>> >> been left.
>> >>
>> >> Also brown desis are the lowest in the pecking order of
>> >> kirastanism.
>
>> > Their white masters also treat them like scum, usually.
>> > Christianity is a destructive illegal alien in Bharat, as
>> > is Islam. They must be expelled. - Jai Maharaj
>
>> if you do a google search with "kirastanism", you will not find one link
>> that is in favor of kirastanism for brown people or india.
>
> As it turns out Christianity is undesirable for people of all colors, what
> with Christian priests raping young boys and girls throughout the world.
>

hindus get it. how come kerals can never get it?


> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

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TOPIC: PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/f2bf4b3f6e42b80d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:45 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4a37d923$0$23767$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> "Moorthy" <mortayee@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78a049de-4f6b-43e7-a4a6-1a4906406794@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com...

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> > PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT
> >
> > Forwarded message from durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
> >
> > [ Subject: pushpak vimaana
> > [ From: durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
> > [ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005
> >
> > Rense.com
> >
> > Ancient Indian Spacecraft
> > And Aircraft Technology
> >
> > By The Hindu Staff Reporter
> > 1-6-5
> >
> > Tirupati -'India had a treasure trove of hitech warfare
> > technology that even the 'mighty West' does not possess.
> > The Brahmastra and Vimaan used in the pre-Mahabharat
> > period are nothing but the earlier versions of today's
> > nuclear weapons and spacecraft.'
> >
> > It is this feeling that one would get after listening to
> > a lecture on 'High Technology in Ancient Sanskrit
> > Literature' by Mr. C. S. R. Prabhu, senior scientist,
> > NIC, Hyderabad, on Thursday as part of the three- day
> > Indo-Nepal Sanskrit Conference, currently underway at the
> > Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha here.
> >
> > Mr. Prabhu, quoting extensively from ancient texts,
> > stressed that the pre-Mahabharat period was an age of
> > high technology, which was ignored in the Medieval period
> > due to reasons not known.
> >
> > He quoted from the texts of a great scholar, Subbaraya
> > Sastry, who, in a state of yogic trance, is said to have
> > orally dictated the spacecraft technology in a period
> > somewhere between 1875 and 1919, which was recorded by
> > his disciples. The text, a copy of which is still in
> > Nepal's Royal Library, contained technical details on
> > assembling, fabricating and erecting a spacecraft, the
> > metals, semi-conductors, advanced alloys used and other
> > minute aeronautical information. Though quite difficult
> > to be believed on the face of it, the fact that this
> > technology did not exist anywhere in the world - not even
> > in America and Europe - in the mentioned period, makes it
> > hard for one to disbelieve.
> >
> > Artwork by James Neff
> >
> > The technical information given in Sastry's texts was as
> > minute, precise and clear, as if it were a 'Make your own
> > spacecraft' or a 'Spacecraft technology in 30 days'
> > except for the Sanskrit language used, which was very
> > much archaic and obsolete, Mr. Prabhu said. On a tip on
> > making an alloy, the text said 'Krishnaseesam Chanjanikam
> > Vajrathundam samamsathaha' from which the real meaning of
> > 'Vajrathundam' (used in that context), could not be found
> > in any contemporary Sanskrit dictionary. ''After a great
> > amount of interaction with ayurvedic specialists and
> > Swamijis with intuitive interpretations, it turned out to
> > be the cactus plant,'' he said.
> >
> > To further strengthen his claim, he said there were wall
> > paintings in some forts in Rajasthan depicting the use of
> > rockets in Mughal warfare and even by Tipu Sultan of
> > Mysore. Another interesting fact he gave was that the
> > spacecraft could become invisible on its own. The lead
> > alloy (Thamogarbha loha) used in making the body of the
> > spacecraft would absorb light around it in a photo
> > chemical reaction that would make it disappear.
> >
> > On testing the Krishna seesa metal mentioned in the
> > formula in the laboratory of Birla Institute of Science,
> > Hyderabad, Mr. Prabhu found the metal absorbing 78 per
> > cent of laser light, which means, any other light could
> > be easily absorbed, giving ample proof that there existed
> > a technology to make things invisible. Also the use of an
> > alloy of copper, zinc and lead made the spacecraft's body
> > resist corrosion by 1000 times over that of the current
> > levels. Using Ararakamra material for the axle and wheels
> > had made it possible for taking 'U' turns and serpentine
> > movements.
> >
> > An astonishing fact is that the Ararakamra metal was an
> > alloy of copper, zinc, lead and iron, the combination of
> > which is impossible, according to modern metallurgy.
> > Technically, the ''Young's modulus'' of this metal is
> > said to be higher than that of steel, making it stronger.
> > As the spacecraft had to be capable of resisting high
> > temperature, on re-entering our atmosphere from the outer
> > space, its body was made with a metal called 'Raja Loha'.
> > Its special feature was that apart from resisting heat,
> > it converted light from lightnings into energy. To
> > crosscheck all these details, there were no furnaces
> > available in Hyderabad to melt metals at a high
> > temperature of 2500 degrees celcius, Mr. Prabhu lamented.
> >
> > Another hitch came into his research in the form of the
> > 'energy' used. 'Though the texts explained that the
> > spacecraft was propelled by 'Sourasakthi', modern solar
> > technology does not generate so much power to drag a
> > rocket', he pointed out. Later he found out to his
> > bewilderment that it was a kind of 'nuclear power' that
> > was used in those days. 'The solar power, when coupled
> > with gamma rays produced nuclear energy that had the
> > power to propel a rocket', Mr. Prabhu observed.
> >
> > He even spoke on 'Tripura Vimaan' that was used to travel
> > in space, water and on land, by using the metal 'Trinetra
> > loha'. Mr. Prabhu said he had submitted the model and
> > some more information on the 'super metal' to the Indian
> > Metal Society Conference and further claimed that the
> > advisor to the government on scientific affairs Dr. A. P.
> > J. Abdul Kalam too had asked him to bring the design of
> > the plane.
> >
> > A committee which was appointed by Indian Institute of
> > Science to investigate into it, declared Sastry's texts
> > as 'fraud', but Mr. Prabhu reasons that the descriptions
> > mentioned in the ancient texts were perhaps too advanced
> > to believe, making the committee to hastily come to the
> > conclusion. He wanted a national level effort to prove
> > that the so called 'myths' were in fact, scientific
> > formulae on advanced technology. He said he had proposed
> > a project called 'Bharadwaja Institute of Vedic Science
> > and Technology', the objective of which was to derive,
> > decipher and reproduce advanced methodologies and
> > processes from Vedic and post-Vedic Sanskrit texts, for
> > which he sought government's support.
> >
> > More Reading On This Subject -
> >
> > http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm
> >
> > http://ebusiness.ada.gov.in/library/library/VymanikaShastra1.htm
> >
> > End of forwarded message from durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > "A king, though endowed with little prowess,
> > starting on an expedition at the proper time, in
> > view of the good positions of the planets, achieves
> > greatness that is eulogised in the scriptures."
> > - Brhat Samhita, 104.60
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museumhttp://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and
> > philosophyhttp://www.hindu.orghttp://www.hindunet.org
> >
> > The truth about Islam and Muslimshttp://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
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> > May be they did, but more likely in the absence of tangible proof they
> > were just fanciful stories with imagination gone wild.
> > But more to the point it does not help Indians here and now.
> > Last I heard they are still buying jet fighters from foreign powers
> > and paying through their nose, and dont yet have a fully functional
> > jet engine. - Moorthy

> why would you call it "imagination gone wild"? if anything if it was only
> the imagination, it would still not be wild, it would be creative.
> any way, the nepal royal library has the tech details, right? once the hindu
> scintists study them may be india will compete with boeing and aribus.
> - harmony

Speaking of imagination:

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is
limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces
the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."
- Albert Einstein

The technical specs of vimaans also exists with certain Jyotishis.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: ONE IN SEVEN SCIENTISTS SAYS COLLEAGUES FAKE DATA
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:54 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4a37d61b$0$23771$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > One in seven scientists say colleagues fake data
> >
> > By Hannah Devlin
> > The Times, UK
> > Thursday, June 4, 2009
> >
> > Faking scientific data and failing to report commercial conflicts of
> > interest are far more prevalent than previously thought, a study
> > suggests.
> >
> > One in seven scientists says that they are aware of colleagues having
> > seriously breached acceptable conduct by inventing results. And
> > around 46 per cent say that they have observed fellow scientists
> > engage in "questionable practices", such as presenting data
> > selectively or changing the conclusions of a study in response to
> > pressure from a funding source.
> >
> > However, when scientists were asked about their own behaviour only 2
> > per cent admitted to having faked results.
> >
> > Daniele Fanelli, of the University of Edinburgh, who carried out the
> > investigation, believes that high-profile cases such as that of Hwang
> > Woo-Suk, the South Korean scientist disgraced for fabricating human
> > stem cell data, are less unusual than is generally assumed.
> > "Increasing evidence suggests that known frauds are just the tip of
> > the iceberg and that many cases are never discovered," he said.
> >
> > The findings, published in the peer-reviewed journal PLoS One, are
> > based on a review of 21 scientific misconduct surveys carried out
> > between 1986 and 2005. The results paint a picture of a profession in
> > which dishonesty and misrepresentation are widespread.
> >
> > In all the surveys people were asked about both their own research
> > practices and those of colleagues. Misconduct was divided into two
> > categories: fabrication, the actual invention of data; and lesser
> > breaches that went under the heading "questionable practices". These
> > included dropping data points based on a "gut feeling" and failing to
> > publish data that contradict one's previous research.
> >
> > The discrepancy between the number of scientists owning up to
> > misconduct and those having been observed by colleagues is likely to
> > be in part due to fears over anonymity, Dr Fanelli suggests. "Anyone
> > who has ever falsified research is probably unwilling to reveal it
> > despite all guarantees of anonymity."
> >
> > The study predicts that the 2 per cent figure, although higher than
> > most previous estimates, is still likely to be conservative.
> >
> > Another explanation for the differences between the self-report
> > results and colleague-report results could be that people consider
> > themselves to be more moral than others. In a marginal case, people
> > might characterise their colleagues' behaviour as misconduct more
> > readily than they would their own.
> >
> > The study included scientists from a range of disciplines. Misconduct
> > was far more frequently admitted by medical or pharmacological
> > researchers than others, supporting fears that the field of medical
> > research is being biased by commercial interests.
> >
> > Related Links
> >
> > * Plastic Fantastic by Eugenie Samuel Reich
> > * Drug company 'failed to disclose death rates'
> > * Shamed scientist created world's first 'virgin birth'
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6425036.ece
> >
> > 1 Posted on June 3, 2009 in part by bruinbirdman
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > To: bruinbirdman
> >
> > > These included dropping data points based on a "gut feeling" and
> > > failing to publish data that contradict one's previous research.
> >
> > There's your 'Global Warming' right there.
> >
> > 2 Posted on June 3, 2009 Jack Hammer (here)
> >
> > Reply to 1
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > -To: bruinbirdman
> >
> > Peer Review.
> >
> > 3 posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:33:08 PM by trumandogz
> > (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is
> > driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
> >
> > Reply to 1
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > -To: bruinbirdman
> >
> > for global warming whackos it is closer to 99 percent.
> >
> > 4 Posted on June 3, 2009 by Always Right
> > (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than
> > Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
> >
> > Reply to 1
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > End of forwarded messages from:
> > http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2264439/posts
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti

> the trouble is scientists don't spend their time unearthing buried
> discoveris from hindu wisdom of vedas.
> if they did, they wouldn't need to be faking anything for centuries.

That's right: one has to go to the source of wisdom.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: BIHAR CLOCKED UP A GIDDY GROWTH RATE OF 11.03%
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 5:12 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Has India's poorest state turned the corner?

By Amarnath Tewary
BBC News
Sunday, January 17, 2010

Has India's poorest and most lawless state turned the corner?

Patna - If you believe the government of the northern state of Bihar,
the answer appears to be in the affirmative.

According to it, Bihar clocked up a giddy growth rate of 11.03% in
2008-2009.

This would make it India's second fastest growing state economy, just
behind the industrially-developed western state of Gujarat.

Not so long ago, Bihar was written off as a basket case, trailing
behind every other Indian state.

Its infrastructure was shambolic, jobs had disappeared, factories had
shut down, lawlessness was rife and the government was in limbo.

Many believe that with a change of regime four years ago - regional
leader Nitish Kumar's Janata Dal (United) leads a coalition
government with the Hindu nationalist BJP - Bihar's fortunes have
picked up.

Even if this is an exaggeration, there are definite signs of the
economy turning the corner.

Revival signs

Consider this:

o The government plans to spend $3.5bn during 2009-2010, up from
$327m in 2001-2002

o Revenue accruals have climbed to $1.1bn, up from $649m in 2003-
2004

o Government spending on infrastructure and "social development"
has been pegged at $444m every year

o Use of cement in the state has grown 28% in the last four years
against the national average of 9%, pointing to increased
construction work

o There has been a 78% growth in air traffic in and out of the
state during the same period, the fourth-highest in India.

o Automobile sales in the state have recorded a whopping 700%
growth.

o More than 6,800km (4,225 miles) of roads have been rebuilt and
1,600 bridges and culverts have been constructed

o The State Investment Promotion Board claims to have received
proposals worth $20b from industrialists. But it is not clear how
many of these proposals will be implemented

The government says it is working overtime to tame Bihar's runaway
crime rate - nearly 40,000 criminals, it says, have been convicted in
the last four years.

'Abysmally low'

"All this proves that there has been all round growth and
development," says Deputy Chief Minister Sushil Kumar Modi.

"Bihar is back on track."

But many doubt these claims.

"These figures are too good to be true," says economist Nawal Kishore
Chaudhury, who teaches at Patna University.

He wonders how the state could have recorded double digit growth when
last year's economic survey - a federal government publication -
showed that the growth rate was just 5%.

Also, last year's economic survey said that Bihar had recorded
negative growth in the farm sector.

At $32, per capita social spending remains one of the lowest in the
country.

Most economists do however agree that the Keynesian nature of growth
in Bihar - most of it spurred by government - has led to increased
spending in construction.

Also, the savings rate remains pretty high - Patna alone has $5.2bn
in bank deposits, which is higher than many prosperous small cities
in India.

"Since Bihar's development base is abysmally low, even a small
investment here results in impressive growth in percentage terms,"
says social scientist Shaibal Gupta.

More at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8458618.stm

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 5:27 pm
From: "harmony"


is there any more proof needed that hindutva works, and works best for the
brown people?


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100118G43HXB9U5rosjQFSgNZqaPG@Vk6bU...
> Has India's poorest state turned the corner?
>
> By Amarnath Tewary
> BBC News
> Sunday, January 17, 2010
>
> Has India's poorest and most lawless state turned the corner?
>
> Patna - If you believe the government of the northern state of Bihar,
> the answer appears to be in the affirmative.
>
> According to it, Bihar clocked up a giddy growth rate of 11.03% in
> 2008-2009.
>
> This would make it India's second fastest growing state economy, just
> behind the industrially-developed western state of Gujarat.
>
> Not so long ago, Bihar was written off as a basket case, trailing
> behind every other Indian state.
>
> Its infrastructure was shambolic, jobs had disappeared, factories had
> shut down, lawlessness was rife and the government was in limbo.
>
> Many believe that with a change of regime four years ago - regional
> leader Nitish Kumar's Janata Dal (United) leads a coalition
> government with the Hindu nationalist BJP - Bihar's fortunes have
> picked up.
>
> Even if this is an exaggeration, there are definite signs of the
> economy turning the corner.
>
> Revival signs
>
> Consider this:
>
> o The government plans to spend $3.5bn during 2009-2010, up from
> $327m in 2001-2002
>
> o Revenue accruals have climbed to $1.1bn, up from $649m in 2003-
> 2004
>
> o Government spending on infrastructure and "social development"
> has been pegged at $444m every year
>
> o Use of cement in the state has grown 28% in the last four years
> against the national average of 9%, pointing to increased
> construction work
>
> o There has been a 78% growth in air traffic in and out of the
> state during the same period, the fourth-highest in India.
>
> o Automobile sales in the state have recorded a whopping 700%
> growth.
>
> o More than 6,800km (4,225 miles) of roads have been rebuilt and
> 1,600 bridges and culverts have been constructed
>
> o The State Investment Promotion Board claims to have received
> proposals worth $20b from industrialists. But it is not clear how
> many of these proposals will be implemented
>
> The government says it is working overtime to tame Bihar's runaway
> crime rate - nearly 40,000 criminals, it says, have been convicted in
> the last four years.
>
> 'Abysmally low'
>
> "All this proves that there has been all round growth and
> development," says Deputy Chief Minister Sushil Kumar Modi.
>
> "Bihar is back on track."
>
> But many doubt these claims.
>
> "These figures are too good to be true," says economist Nawal Kishore
> Chaudhury, who teaches at Patna University.
>
> He wonders how the state could have recorded double digit growth when
> last year's economic survey - a federal government publication -
> showed that the growth rate was just 5%.
>
> Also, last year's economic survey said that Bihar had recorded
> negative growth in the farm sector.
>
> At $32, per capita social spending remains one of the lowest in the
> country.
>
> Most economists do however agree that the Keynesian nature of growth
> in Bihar - most of it spurred by government - has led to increased
> spending in construction.
>
> Also, the savings rate remains pretty high - Patna alone has $5.2bn
> in bank deposits, which is higher than many prosperous small cities
> in India.
>
> "Since Bihar's development base is abysmally low, even a small
> investment here results in impressive growth in percentage terms,"
> says social scientist Shaibal Gupta.
>
> More at:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8458618.stm
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 6:49 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Britain and US consider asking India to train Afghan National Police

By Jeremy Page in Delhi
The Times, UK
Tuesday, January 19, 2010

The United States and Britain are exploring ways to boost India's
role in Afghanistan, including a controversial proposal for it to
train the Afghan National Police (ANP), The Times has learnt.

Richard Holbrooke, the US envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan, was
expected to discuss that and other ideas when he began a visit to
India yesterday, his first in almost a year.

Robert Gates, the US Defence Secretary, also arrives in Delhi today
to discuss issues including expanding co-operation in Afghanistan and
boosting US arms sales to India.

The two visits follow a low-profile trip to Delhi last week by Sir
Sherard Cowper-Coles, the British "Afpak" envoy, who discussed the
ANP training proposal with officials.

The diplomatic activity reflects a growing desire on all three sides
to boost co-operation on regional security, despite differences over
Pakistan, a close US ally that is India's arch enemy. India fiercely
resisted being included in Mr Holbrooke's formal brief last year, and
rejected his attempts to raise the issue of Kashmir, which is claimed
by India and Pakistan and seen by some as a root cause of regional
instability.

Now, however, India appears to want to play a more active role in
Afghanistan largely because it fears that Pakistan will engineer a
Taleban takeover when foreign troops leave.

"We've spent quite a lot of time now talking with the Americans," M.
K. Narayanan, India's National Security Adviser, told The Times.
"We're involved in infrastructure, we're involved in building roads
and electricity and we're willing to do even more."

India also wants to offset the growing influence of its newer rival,
China, which is developing a huge copper mine south of Kabul and
plans to build a railway across Afghanistan. The US hopes that India,
which has already contributed more than $1 billion in aid to
Afghanistan, can use its growing economic, political and military
clout to act as a democratic bulwark in the region.

But any expansion of India's influence in Afghanistan risks
antagonising Pakistan, which accuses Delhi of using its consulates
there to support separatist movements in Pakistan.

The US Embassy declined to give any details about Mr Holbrooke's
visit, or Mr Gates's, but Mr Narayanan said that the Americans were
exploring ways for India to contribute more in Afghanistan --
possibly by training the 82,000-strong ANP, which Germany has been
handling since 2002.

"We have the best institution for training the civilian police, and
the paramilitary to some extent . . . if you want a civilian police
with a little bit of strength to the elbow," Mr Narayanan said.

More at:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6992984.ece

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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