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* MANY YOUNG GIRLS RAPED IN THIS CHRISTIAN CHURCH, NOW SUED FOR MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/8c78f56f444748f8?hl=en
* VATICAN TOLD TO DEFROCK CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED 22 BOYS - 3 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/e2fd681e9255cde1?hl=en
* ANOTHER VICTIM OF CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED TEENS COMES FORWARD - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/ec6f2d1d6d60d1c7?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN PRIEST, MSGR. MICHAEL DEMPSEY, IS TARGET OF CHILD-PORN PROBE - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/cce26a69d10ae046?hl=en
* sonia gandhi's partymen say italian is an uncivilized language (was Re: Modi
gives good snub to the Italian on food price rises - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/25e339de632e730c?hl=en
* Squealing increases, was "ARINDAM BANERJEE" - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/da8fa1a7ad09f029?hl=en
* Pope John Paul II whipped himself - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/1b871f4122215197?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN PRIEST ARRESTED ON EMBEZZLEMENT CHARGE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/9294c571c2a3d7a7?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN PASTOR WHO KILLED WIFE GETS 65-YEAR PRISON TERM - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/bfc6e0c81fc785e3?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED YOUNG BOY MAKES FIRST COURT APPEARANCE - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/a8106db54473bea5?hl=en
* CHRISTIAN PRIEST REPEATEDLY RAPED 8-YEAR-OLD BOY OVER 5 YEARS - 2 messages,
2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/9e81aed2ee33ab93?hl=en
* An oldie by Lata Mangeshkar - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/d23c50eaf1babf56?hl=en
* openness and honesty in arindam's bengal - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/a6c24c211c539571?hl=en
* NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED BY CHRISTIANS more than all other religions combined
- 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/43a99f6e06dc661e?hl=en

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TOPIC: MANY YOUNG GIRLS RAPED IN THIS CHRISTIAN CHURCH, NOW SUED FOR MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/8c78f56f444748f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 4:30 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b637bad$0$12418$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
> "Warren Smith" <warren.smith@aol.com.au> wrote in message
> news:hjvopr$57k$3@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> >> Sisters suing Catholic Church
> >>
> >> Women say priest abused them, seek $1.7m each
> >>
> >> By Brian Medel Yarmouth Bureau
> >> The Chronicle-Herald
> >> Friday, January 29, 2010
> >>
> >> [Margaret Deveau, left, was sexually assaulted in the 1960s by a
> >> parish priest, who admited his guilt in 1993. Her sister Jeanne
> >> Doucette alleges she was assaulted by the same priest.(Brian Medel -
> >> Yarmouth Bureau)]
> >>
> >> Yarmouth - Two sisters originally from the tiny community of St.
> >> Alphonse, Digby County, are suing the Roman Catholic Church for $1.7
> >> million each.
> >>
> >> In documents filed in Nova Scotia Supreme Court, they allege they
> >> were sexually abused as young children by their parish priest, the
> >> late Rev. Edward Theriault.
> >>
> >> Jeanne Doucette, 48, and Margaret Deveau, 55, now live in Yarmouth
> >> County. They have filed civil lawsuits against the Archdiocese of
> >> Halifax and the Diocese of Yarmouth, claiming general and special
> >> damages.
> >>
> >> The priest was convicted in a 1993 criminal case of sexually
> >> assaulting Margaret Deveau in her own home between 1962 and 1969.
> >> Father Theriault, then 67, admitted his misconduct in Nova Scotia
> >> provincial court.
> >>
> >> "I'm sorry for hurting the church, sorry for hurting the victim,
> >> sorry for hurting the family that I tried to help while I was their
> >> pastor," he said at the time.
> >>
> >> Father Theriault was placed on probation for two years. He was also
> >> ordered to pay a $10 victim fine surcharge and perform 500 hours of
> >> community service.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, Margaret Deveau said she wants to make the Roman
> >> Catholic Church accountable for the suffering and abuse perpetrated
> >> by its priests.
> >>
> >> "Just from when we grew up and knew what was happening then, I know
> >> there's many others," she said, referring to the possibility there
> >> are other victims of Father Theriault.
> >>
> >> "But it's really hard for people to come out."
> >>
> >> Ms. Deveau confronted Father Theriault before the 1993 criminal case
> >> and he denied any wrongdoing.
> >>
> >> "I wasn't ready for that," she said. "He just said, 'no, well that's
> >> not true. That didn't happen.' "
> >>
> >> But she confronted him again and he admitted it.
> >>
> >> Father Theriault was also charged in 1993 with assaulting Ms.
> >> Doucette. She allowed the charge to be withdrawn when Father
> >> Theriault agreed to plead guilty to assaulting her older sister.
> >>
> >> "I've regretted it every single day since," Ms. Doucette said
> >> Thursday.
> >>
> >> She also confronted Father Theriault about his abuse, begun when she
> >> was three years old.
> >>
> >> "I remember one of the times that we did confront him, he looked at
> >> me and he said, 'you were so cute,' " she recalled. "That . . .
> >> really, really upset me. I guess I was just speechless."
> >>
> >> The sisters said they want other victims of Father Theriault to come
> >> forward to start their healing.
> >>
> >> "I deal with it every day . . . what's happened to us. You never get
> >> over it," said Ms. Doucette
> >>
> >> Father Theriault also served Catholic parishes in Salmon River,
> >> Wedgeport and Shelburne. He died in 2008.
> >>
> >> The Roman Catholic Church had little to say Thursday about the new
> >> lawsuit.
> >>
> >> "That material has been received by our lawyers. It is a civil suit
> >> so we don't have any particular comment that we can make," said
> >> Marilyn Sweet, spokeswoman for the Archdiocese of Halifax.
> >>
> >> "We will certainly be attending to it and continue to be very
> >> concerned about all issues (surrounding) sexual abuse and children,"
> >> she said Thursday.
> >>
> >> The church will have time to file a defence. The typical 20-day
> >> deadline will likely be extended, said a lawyer from the firm
> >> representing the sisters.
> >>
> >> "Usually in cases that are this old, with priests that (are)
> >> deceased, there's a general understanding that that deadline is a
> >> soft deadline," Aaron Lealess, a lawyer with the London, Ont. law
> >> firm Ledroit Beckett, said Thursday.
> >>
> >> "It'll likely be a couple months before we receive statements of
> >> defence."
> >>
> >> By coming forward now, the sisters hope to get some emotional healing
> >> and reach out to others who have been abused, said Mr. Lealess.
> >>
> >> Two other women alleging to also have been victimized by Father
> >> Theriault have also contact the law firm, he said.
> >>
> >> More at:
> >> http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1164754.html
> >>
> >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> Om Shanti
> >>
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> > Sometimes I think it would be a good idea to close all churches and turn
> > them all into pubs. Then I'd only have to walk across the street to have a
> > beer, instead of having to drive 8 klms there and back to get pissed.
> >
> > Warren Smith
> > 3/33 Acorn Cresent
> > Maitland NSW
> > Australia
> > warren.smith@aol.com.au

> who would save you then? remember jesus loves you.

He sure does: the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

But then harmony ji was being sarcastic, surely.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 6:15 pm
From: "Warren Smith"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b637bad$0$12418$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>
> "Warren Smith" <warren.smith@aol.com.au> wrote in message
> news:hjvopr$57k$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
>> message news:20100129N9H8Z2unP6E8hZGkoWFNJSs@XpL3J...
>>> Sisters suing Catholic Church
>>>
>>> Women say priest abused them, seek $1.7m each
>>>
>>> By Brian Medel Yarmouth Bureau
>>> The Chronicle-Herald
>>> Friday, January 29, 2010
>>>
>>> [Margaret Deveau, left, was sexually assaulted in the 1960s by a
>>> parish priest, who admited his guilt in 1993. Her sister Jeanne
>>> Doucette alleges she was assaulted by the same priest.(Brian Medel -
>>> Yarmouth Bureau)]
>>>
>>> Yarmouth - Two sisters originally from the tiny community of St.
>>> Alphonse, Digby County, are suing the Roman Catholic Church for $1.7
>>> million each.
>>>
>>> In documents filed in Nova Scotia Supreme Court, they allege they
>>> were sexually abused as young children by their parish priest, the
>>> late Rev. Edward Theriault.
>>>
>>> Jeanne Doucette, 48, and Margaret Deveau, 55, now live in Yarmouth
>>> County. They have filed civil lawsuits against the Archdiocese of
>>> Halifax and the Diocese of Yarmouth, claiming general and special
>>> damages.
>>>
>>> The priest was convicted in a 1993 criminal case of sexually
>>> assaulting Margaret Deveau in her own home between 1962 and 1969.
>>> Father Theriault, then 67, admitted his misconduct in Nova Scotia
>>> provincial court.
>>>
>>> "I'm sorry for hurting the church, sorry for hurting the victim,
>>> sorry for hurting the family that I tried to help while I was their
>>> pastor," he said at the time.
>>>
>>> Father Theriault was placed on probation for two years. He was also
>>> ordered to pay a $10 victim fine surcharge and perform 500 hours of
>>> community service.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, Margaret Deveau said she wants to make the Roman
>>> Catholic Church accountable for the suffering and abuse perpetrated
>>> by its priests.
>>>
>>> "Just from when we grew up and knew what was happening then, I know
>>> there's many others," she said, referring to the possibility there
>>> are other victims of Father Theriault.
>>>
>>> "But it's really hard for people to come out."
>>>
>>> Ms. Deveau confronted Father Theriault before the 1993 criminal case
>>> and he denied any wrongdoing.
>>>
>>> "I wasn't ready for that," she said. "He just said, 'no, well that's
>>> not true. That didn't happen.' "
>>>
>>> But she confronted him again and he admitted it.
>>>
>>> Father Theriault was also charged in 1993 with assaulting Ms.
>>> Doucette. She allowed the charge to be withdrawn when Father
>>> Theriault agreed to plead guilty to assaulting her older sister.
>>>
>>> "I've regretted it every single day since," Ms. Doucette said
>>> Thursday.
>>>
>>> She also confronted Father Theriault about his abuse, begun when she
>>> was three years old.
>>>
>>> "I remember one of the times that we did confront him, he looked at
>>> me and he said, 'you were so cute,' " she recalled. "That . . .
>>> really, really upset me. I guess I was just speechless."
>>>
>>> The sisters said they want other victims of Father Theriault to come
>>> forward to start their healing.
>>>
>>> "I deal with it every day . . . what's happened to us. You never get
>>> over it," said Ms. Doucette
>>>
>>> Father Theriault also served Catholic parishes in Salmon River,
>>> Wedgeport and Shelburne. He died in 2008.
>>>
>>> The Roman Catholic Church had little to say Thursday about the new
>>> lawsuit.
>>>
>>> "That material has been received by our lawyers. It is a civil suit
>>> so we don't have any particular comment that we can make," said
>>> Marilyn Sweet, spokeswoman for the Archdiocese of Halifax.
>>>
>>> "We will certainly be attending to it and continue to be very
>>> concerned about all issues (surrounding) sexual abuse and children,"
>>> she said Thursday.
>>>
>>> The church will have time to file a defence. The typical 20-day
>>> deadline will likely be extended, said a lawyer from the firm
>>> representing the sisters.
>>>
>>> "Usually in cases that are this old, with priests that (are)
>>> deceased, there's a general understanding that that deadline is a
>>> soft deadline," Aaron Lealess, a lawyer with the London, Ont. law
>>> firm Ledroit Beckett, said Thursday.
>>>
>>> "It'll likely be a couple months before we receive statements of
>>> defence."
>>>
>>> By coming forward now, the sisters hope to get some emotional healing
>>> and reach out to others who have been abused, said Mr. Lealess.
>>>
>>> Two other women alleging to also have been victimized by Father
>>> Theriault have also contact the law firm, he said.
>>>
>>> More at:
>>> http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1164754.html
>>>
>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>> Om Shanti
>>>
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>>> educational
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>>
>> Sometimes I think it would be a good idea to close all churches and turn
>> them all into pubs. Then I'd only have to walk across the street to have
>> a beer, instead of having to drive 8 klms there and back to get pissed.
>>
>> Warren Smith
>> 3/33 Acorn Cresent
>> Maitland NSW
>> Australia
>> warren.smith@aol.com.au
>>
>>
>
> who would save you then? remember jesus loves you.
>

I've already been saved and I know that Jesus loves me. So why do I need a
building and a bunch of pedaphiles living across the street from where I
live here in Maitland to tell me?

Warren Smith
3/33 Acorn Cresent
Maitland NSW
Australia
warren.smith@aol.com.au

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TOPIC: VATICAN TOLD TO DEFROCK CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED 22 BOYS
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/e2fd681e9255cde1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 4:38 pm
From: uNmaiviLambi

On Jan 29, 7:27 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> vatican thinks this is an under-achievement. not virile enough.

They say their god raped Mary and begat Jeezuz! Mary was betrothed to
Joe. Joe ran away later and was never heard of! That is called a
religion by them

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 4:46 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b637d0a$0$12424$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
> > Canadian Diocese Requests Vatican to Defrock Dishonored Priest
> >

> vatican thinks this is an under-achievement. not virile enough.

Yes, he could have raped hundreds of boys, as was done in that
elite Christian school in Germany.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 5:07 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <89db5fbd-c573-478a-b406-d0ccbdb6ba11@a13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> On Jan 29, 7:27=A0pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > vatican thinks this is an under-achievement. not virile enough.

> They say their god raped Mary and begat Jeezuz! Mary was betrothed to
> Joe. Joe ran away later and was never heard of! That is called a
> religion by them

They worship a corpse nailed to a cross.
All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: ANOTHER VICTIM OF CHRISTIAN PRIEST WHO RAPED TEENS COMES FORWARD
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/ec6f2d1d6d60d1c7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 4:54 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Another victim claims sexual abuse against a former Fargo Priest

By Jason Vincent
WDAY-TV
Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Another victim is stepping forward, claiming sexual abuse against a
former Fargo Priest. It's the latest in a string of allegations
against Brother Raimond Rose, the Fargo Diocese and Shanley High
School.

This is the latest paperwork filed today against Brother Raimond
Rose. A Fargo man has now stepped forward claiming Rose sexually
abused him in the late 70's.

Raimond Rose first came to the Fargo area in 1976. He worked for four
years at Shanley High School as a teacher. This latest victim was one
of his Shanley students. Paperwork filed today claims Rose abused
Paul Mehl when he 16 or 17 during a school trip to Bismarck.

Mehl is the third case now filed against Rose in North Dakota, all
claiming abuse that allegedly happened during overnight trips. The
group "Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests" says they've
heard from up to 30 people from Fargo who could be victims.

The three abuse cases filed here at the Cass County courthouse
against Rose will be heard again in March. The latest victim says his
mother did tell the diocese about the alleged abuse, but they did
nothing about it.

More at:
http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/29248/group/home/

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: CHRISTIAN PRIEST, MSGR. MICHAEL DEMPSEY, IS TARGET OF CHILD-PORN PROBE
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/cce26a69d10ae046?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 4:58 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <a2be92f2-b3a2-4231-aa93-714c049243dd@t31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
kangarooistan <kangarooistan9@gmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Queens priest, Msgr. Michael Dempsey, is target of feds' kid-porn probe
> >
> > By Joe Jackson and Thomas Zambito
> > Daily News Writers
> > New York Daily News
> > Thursday, January 28, 2010
> >
> > Dempsey is being eyed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
> > agents for viewing online child porn.
> >
> > The feds have opened a kiddie-porn probe of an elderly Queens cleric,
> > who has been suspended from his priestly duties.
> >
> > The allegations against 78-year-old Msgr. Michael Dempsey were
> > revealed to parishoners at Our Lady Queen of Martyrs church in an
> > emotional letter from Brooklyn Diocese Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio.
> >
> > Dempsey is being eyed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
> > agents for viewing online child porn.
> >
> > "You are undoubtedly aware of the deep suffering and hurt that
> > surround any matter of child abuse, especially when the allegations
> > involve a member of the clergy," DiMarzio said. "It can damage, often
> > irreparably, the trust and the reputations of all who are in any way
> > affected by it."
> >
> > The news left the Forest Hills parish reeling.
> >
> > "Every preacher seems okay, but we never know what's inside," said
> > Blanca Navarro, 55.
> >
> > A longtime Dempsey pal said he was stunned.
> >
> > "My first response to this was that's impossible," said the Rev.
> > Frank Mann. "People just can't believe this. It just doesn't fit who
> > the man is."
> >
> > Dempsey's lawyer Margaret Shalley could not be reached for comment.
> >
> > Read more:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/01/28/2010-01-28_=
> qns_pr...
> >
> > More at:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/01/28/2010-01-28_qn=
> s_pr...
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
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> Anybody who lets any christian anywhere near children is insane
>
> they have always been EVIL to the very core and anybody who believes
> otherwise is a fool
>
> kanga
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 5:01 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

It follows that the Congress party considers Sonia Maino Gandhi to be uncivilized.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b637ca5$0$12434$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> congress calls him uncivilized for writing in italian.
> isn't that racial slur on the italians who write in italian all the time?
>
>
> "Mirza Ghalib" <mghalib01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9edd035a-7ee4-4144-8361-645f82b7b93b@v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> > Well done Narendra Modi ji !
> >
> > And there is not the slightest bit of hyperbole here. When I last
> > knew, Madam used to
> > read Hindi from a transcription in the Roman script, done in advance
> > by her Indian
> > Hindi speaking slaves.
> > =================================
> > CONG FUMES AS MODI SAYS WILL WRITE TO SONIA ON PRICE RISE IN ITALIAN
> > PTI, 29 January 2010, 06:31pm IST
> >
> >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cong-fumes-as-Modi-says-will-write-t
> o-Sonia-on-price-rise-in-Italian/articleshow/5513939.cms
> >
> > AHMEDABAD/NEW DELHI: Whipping up Sonia Gandhi's foreign origin to flag
> > the price rise issue, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi made a
> > veiled attack on the Congress chief saying he would now write a letter
> > to the Centre in 'Italian' to make it act to rein in food prices.
> > ( Watch Video )
> >
> > The Congress hit back at the BJP leader's personal attack suggesting
> > he has become mad. "He has lost his mind. From an uncivilised person,
> > you can only expect such a presposterous rhetoric. I would not even
> > want to dignify such comments by speaking from this podium," Congress
> > spokesman Manish Tiwari said in New Delhi today.
> >
> > Speaking at a Garib Kalyan Mela at Patan, about 130 km from here, last
> > night, Modi said, "I have written a number of letters to Central
> > Government on the issue of price rise. I have written letters in the
> > language they can understand urging them to take steps to do something
> > about the rising prices of food items.
> >
> > "But, I think that they have no sympathy for the poor people and it
> > seems that they are not willing to take steps to control rising
> > prices. Now, I need to write a letter in Italian," he said.
> >
> > Modi and Sonia have had a few run-ins during the Gujarat Assembly
> > election campaign towards the end of 2008.
> >
> > "They (Centre) had organised a meeting on the issue of price rise. But
> > have now postponed it saying that they have some other work. I don't
> > understand what work is more important than addressing the issue of
> > price rise," Modi said.
> >
> > "Keeping poor people hungry in this manner will lead to nemesis of the
> > Central government," Modi said.
> >
> > 'Garib Kalyan Mela' is brainchild of Modi to provide the direct
> > benefit of schemes meant for poor without involving middlemen.
> >
> > "Former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had said that if Central
> > government release one rupee for poor, only 10 paise reaches them. By
> > organising such melas I have tried to solve this problem," Modi said.
> > Follow us on Twitter for TOI top stories
> >
>
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 9:10 pm
From: Mirza Ghalib

On Jan 29, 2:49 pm, "P. Rajah" <u...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> The Link Between Astrology and Prejudice
> January 11, 2010
>
> some of them from psychics and astrologers.
>
(crap deleted)

We hear your verbal diarrhea on astrology and astrologers. But
the subject matter was price rise in India and Sonia Gandhi's
indifference to it. What you got to say on that?

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 5:19 pm
From: hari.kumar@indero.com

"His claims are usually bogus. Just as Basu ran Bengal into the ground,
Arindam Bannerji has run his credibility into the ground. This is why I
did not send any money to his father when he begged me to do so. If his
father writes to me and convinces me that he runs a Hindu charity, then
I will reconsider."

Our poor soul can't keep his story straight. NJay stevens,aka dr. jai
etc. was asked to help in finding sources of support in india for a
charity. He was not asked for money.

The real indian of the subject line with the discovery that jay
stevens,aka dr. jai etc. had no connections in india and was in fact a
complete fraud came to ignore jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. after this
discovery. He told jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. of what was discoverd
as to his fraud.

Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. had to that time almost wet his pants
because someone had come to him for advice.

He turned like a mad dog on the real indian.

This was long before jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. came to know of the
writings of the real indian.

What was the discovery?

Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is not an indian but an a lifelong
american.

He has no connections in india because he did not live and grow up there
as he claimed.

He speaks no language of india but english.

He refuses a call from a real indian least his complete fraud be known.

His "dr." and indian sounding name were self given to attract real
indians and gullibleothers to his astrology business.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 7:15 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee

On Jan 29, 5:21 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> arindam is to physics what basu, his hero, was for bengal's development: the
> more they "try" the worse it gets.

No liar is lower than the bundree harmony, the impostor, fraud and
scoundrel for the impostor, fraud and scoundrel, the mahabundurr jai
Bundurr maharaj, the infamous (buy sedulous) bundurrJew and an
Archbundurr of PseudoHinduism. As Renfield to Dracula, so harmony to
jBm.

Those with honesty and wits, please check out:

http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMint.htm

and

http://adda-enterprises.com/HTNwebsite/home.htm

World-saving brilliance, now increasingly realised by the younger
generation! May thay all sing, with apples to Bob Dylan:

Bundurrs and Bundrees all over the land
Don't criticise what you can't understand.
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command
Their tails they are a-dropping!
Get out of the way while they still look your way
For the times they are a-changing!

Heh-heh.

Cheers to all (including the two silly grumps harm* and jBm, for
these poor sods need cheering most),
Arindam Banerjee

Note: bundurr means monkey, and bundree means a she of same. Or sea
of shame; both apply, in this case.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 7:35 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee

On Jan 29, 12:21 am, hari.ku...@indero.com wrote:
> > We wait still for jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. to accept a call from a
> > real indian. =A0We will know instantly his claim about speaking
> sanskrit
> > in his family in a domestic context.
>
> > Don't hold your breath.
>
> "I dare say that this fake Doc is rich enough to bribe some native
> speaker to impersonate him for that purpose. But who would stoop that
> low? Only harmony of course, but his control of language we know.
> Wouldn't work!"
>
> Rich, I very much doubt it.

It is very good to feel that crime does not pay, but in this jBm case
it may not be the case. Vice rewarded, that's him. The jBm boasted he
has a palace in Hawaii, complete with a huge natural swimming pool
that gets flushed with the tides. Rare turtles seek refuge there, and
it has been alleged that he consumes them after converting them to
turtle soup. While preaching vegetarianism, of course. Naturally, jBm
denies the charge. Many Americans are rich and gullible, and can
easily fall prey to the bullshitting and money-grubbing jBm type
impostors who fleece them mercilessly.

There are some very secure ways to test him
> if he would even attempt to allow another person stand for him. I would
> welcome the attempt very much.

Heh-heh, we don't know his address, or phone number, we don't know
what he looks like, he has no public visage or standing at all. He is
thus the equivalent of the most outrageous Nigerian scamster. What he
does show, is the power of the continuous and shameless lie, and that
there are so very very many fools and suckers in the world to believe
same, born every minute. This liar says he has got contacts in
Hollywood, and even claims to having some influence in IIT-D!

Anyway, back to the topic. Indeed avatar is pronounced wrongly, as I
can hear. In Bengali, you are called an o(r)b-o(h)-taar (the r and h
are silent, in orb and oh, and taar is tar but a bit longer-drawn) if
you make some bungle or stupidity. Often, servants are called that.

In Hindi or Sanskrit, it is u(h)-vuh-taar. vuh is pronounced like
'the' and the h in u(h) is silent.

Hope some get it!

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 5:30 pm
From: DM

On Jan 28, 3:57 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Of course you Nazis prefer to flagellate each other.

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TOPIC: CHRISTIAN PRIEST ARRESTED ON EMBEZZLEMENT CHARGE
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 6:06 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Crawford County priest arrested on embezzlement charge

The Telegraph Herald
Friday, January 29, 2010

Prairie du Chien, Wis. - A priest at St. Mary Catholic Church in Gays
Mills and St. Phillip Catholic Church in Soldiers Grove has been
arrested on a charge of embezzling up to $200,000 from those
parishes.

The Rev. Robert Chukwu is currently in Crawford County Jail on a
felony charge of theft in a business setting of over $10,000.
According to the Crawford County Sheriff's Department, Chukwu, who
holds dual citizenship in the United States and Nigeria, told an
attorney for the Diocese of La Crosse that he used the money from the
parishes to invest in Nigeria where he could get a better interest
rate than if he sent the money to the diocese.

Authorities claim Chukwu sent money to his family in Nigeria and to a
nun and a school in Nigeria. They allege he also sent a 40-foot
container to Nigeria containing items purchased at local retail
stores. Authorities said the money used to purchase the items sent to
Nigeria came from insurance money and donations received by the
parishes for damages to the church from the 2007 flood.

An investigation of parish books found that Chukwu had approximately
$105,000 in debit card charges and unauthorized charges totaling
$196,000, according to investigators.

The case remains under investigation.

More at:
http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=271502

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 6:13 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Ex-pastor who killed wife gets 65-year prison term

By Angela K. Brown
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
The Sacramento Bee
Thursday, January 21, 2010

Waco, Texas - Jurors on Thursday sentenced a former Texas minister to
65 years in prison for murdering his wife and trying to cover it up
as a suicide.

Jurors deliberated for about two hours before agreeing on the
sentence for 38-year-old Matt Baker. He had faced from probation to
life in prison for slipping his wife sleeping pills and suffocating
her in 2006.

Baker showed no reaction when the sentence was announced. When the
judge asked if there was any legal reason why Baker should not be
formally sentenced, he said: "I truly believe in my innocence. I
believe the jury made a mistake in this."

Later, as deputies led him from the courtroom, Baker turned to his
mother.

"Love you Mom," he said. "Take care of Kensi and Grace."

Kari's mother Linda Dulin told Baker that the family had decided to
forgive him for the sake of the two daughters.

"You took her from us, Matt; you discarded her like she was
yesterday's trash ... and you left so many other victims," Dulin said
in her victim impact statement at sentencing.

"What you did was horrific ... and I believe you are capable of much
more evil."

Jurors declined to comment after the trial, which almost never
happened.

Kari Baker's death was deemed a suicide after a note and sleeping
pills were found by the bed, and Baker said she was depressed over
their 16-month-old daughter's cancer death in 1999. But authorities
reopened the case several months later after her parents shared
evidence obtained for their wrongful death lawsuit against Baker.

He can appeal but will have to find other attorneys. His defense
team, Guy James Gray and Harold Danford, were removed as his
attorneys after the sentence as they had requested. They had
represented him for free after Baker was declared indigent.

Gray said after the trial that he felt "like an idiot" for initially
believing Baker's denial of his affair, which he later admitted. Gray
said that he did not allow Baker to testify because he "could not
vouch for his credibility." Gray said Baker remained in denial about
murdering Kari, and he represented his client as best he could.

"When you lose faith in your client, you lose heart," Gray said.

Prosecutor Crawford Long had urged jurors to impose the maximum
sentence, but he said afterward that he was not disappointed. Baker
will be eligible for parole in about 32 years.

During closing statements, prosecutor Susan Shafer said Baker was
dangerous because he still could fool people into believing he was a
good person. She said the "best of Matt" was his two daughters, who
were asleep in the house when he killed his wife.

"He thought no more of them than to murder their mother and then
erase her legacy with them by convincing them that she didn't love
them enough to stay and raise them, that she committed suicide,"
Shafer told jurors.

Gray had told jurors that Baker was on trial only because he lied
about having an affair.

The state's key witness was his ex-mistress Vanessa Bulls, who told
jurors that Baker slipped his wife the prescription sleep aid Ambien,
handcuffed her to the bed under the guise of spicing up their
marriage, and smothered her with a pillow after she fell asleep.
Baker told Bulls he typed a suicide note and rubbed Kari's lifeless
hand over it in case it was tested for fingerprints, she testified.

Then he called 911 and said he moved her to the floor, dressed her
nude body and began doing CPR, but witnesses testified that was
impossible in the few minutes before police arrived. He also gave
conflicting statements about when he found the suicide note, whether
his wife was awake or asleep when he went to run errands that night,
and which door was locked when he returned about 45 minutes later.

Baker also searched numerous pharmaceutical Web sites and almost
bought Ambien online, according to other testimony. Ambien was one of
three drugs found in Kari Baker's body, according to the autopsy
results.

Shortly after her death, he removed Kari's pictures and clothes and
replaced them with photos of Bulls with his daughters, according to
testimony. He also looked at engagement rings with Bulls.

During sentencing Thursday, four women testified that Baker had made
unwanted sexual advances toward them, including one who complained to
police of an attempted sexual assault.

Baker also used his church-issued laptop and a computer at a youth
center to look at pornographic Web sites and those for married adults
who want to have affairs, Noel Kersh, a computer forensics examiner,
testified Thursday.

Several people who knew Baker as a child or teen called him a "good
guy," and Sharon Rollins, who grew up with him, described Baker as
charming and flirtatious, but said she "never took it as an advance."

Jeanne Lehrmann, a member of a Baptist church in Riesel where Baker
was pastor several years ago, testified that he was a fine pastor.

"I truly felt that he is a man of God," Lehrmann said, adding that
she still felt that way and did not believe much of the trial
evidence.

More at:
http://www.sacbee.com/827/story/2479998.html

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 6:52 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Priest accused of molesting St. Charles child makes first court appearance

By Hal Conick
St. Charles Republican
January 25, 2010

St. Charles, IL - After being charged with sexually assaulting a St.
Charles child over a period of five years, a Shorewood Catholic
priest made his first appearance in court last week.

Alejandro Flores, 37, has been charged with one count of predatory
criminal sexual assault, which could carry up to 30 years in jail;
two counts of sexual assault, which could carry up to 15 years in
jail; and four counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse, which each
carry up to seven years in jail.

Flores, of the 600 block of Brook Forest Avenue in Shorewood, is a
member of the Diocese of Joliet.

Authorities allege that between Jan. 1, 2005, and Jan. 1, 2010,
Flores had sexual contact with a St. Charles minor, now 13, who is
his godson.

Kane County Assistant State's Attorney Debra Bree said in court Jan.
21 that the victim told the Kane County Child Advocacy Center Jan. 5
that he had been abused by Flores. The boy told authorities Flores
had put his hand and mouth on the victim's genitals in the boy's
house and in Flores' car, prosecutors said. The boy told his mother
he had been sexually assaulted by Flores, while the victim's mother's
boyfriend allegedly witnessed what he believed to be sexual abuse,
according to prosecutors.

A warrant for Flores' arrest was issued Jan. 15. Flores, who had
attempted suicide by jumping off of the 20-foot balcony of a Joliet
church earlier this month, was picked up on that warrant from the
hospital by Joliet police and transferred to the custody of the Kane
County Sheriff's Department Jan. 20.

In court, Bree said while Flores was in the hospital, he told a
fellow Diocese of Joliet priest about an incident in which he went
over to the victim's family's house, and was served tequila by the
victim's mother. Flores told the priest he passed out, and woke up in
the middle of a sex act with the victim, prosecutors said.

Bree said there is no blood relation between Flores and the victim.

Kane County Circuit Judge Thomas E. Mueller set Flores' bail at $1
million. Flores will be held in the Kane County jail.

Flores, a native of Bolivia, already has surrendered his passport to
authorities. If he bonds out, he is prohibited from having contact
with the victim, the victim's family, and anyone younger than 17.

If he is convicted of all counts, he may face up to 67 years in jail.

Flores was a seminarian assigned to St. Mary's Parish in West
Chicago. He later was assigned to Holy Family Parish in Shorewood,
and ordained a priest last summer.

In St. Mary's Parish's weekly bulletin Jan. 17, the Rev. John Balluff
said after the news broke, Flores was immediately placed on
administrative leave and "removed from all priestly duties."

Balluff asked parishioners to report any other abuse to local law
enforcement.

"We will always be committed to doing everything possible to protect
children, to help this child and his family, and to help bring about
healing for our families and the people of the Diocese," Balluff said
in the bulletin. "God will bring his healing to all who are hurting
in this very difficult time."

In a statement, Diocese of Joliet Bishop J. Peter Sartain said the
diocese received a call Jan. 4 with information that Flores had
abused a 13-year-old boy. The diocese then informed the Illinois
Department of Children and Family Services and the Kane County
State's Attorney's office, as per diocesan policy.

Sartain said he informed Flores of the accusation, placed him on
administrative leave and "removed his priestly faculties." Sartain
said he arranged a monitored living situation for Flores as the
investigation continued, but Flores left and soon thereafter
attempted suicide.

"Since Monday, I have been deeply grieved for the young boy whose
family reported the abuse and for the entire family," Sartain said in
the statement. "I and the Diocese of Joliet will continue to
cooperate with all law enforcement agencies in this tragic
situation."

Glenn Sowa, a Geneva lawyer representing Flores, said they will enter
a plea of not guilty, but said he had no further comment on Flores'
case.

"I may do more danger than help (by saying something)," Sowa said.

Sowa said he didn't know whether bond would be posted or if Flores is
on suicide watch. He said Flores is physically "in good health" after
the suicide attempt.

Sowa said his legal services are being paid for by friends and lay
people from the Diocese of Joliet. He said he is not being paid by
any employees of the church.

"We have the guarantee by the constitution that you're innocent until
proven guilty," Sowa said.

More at:
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/geneva/features/x867957001/Priest-charged-in-sexual-assault-of-St-Charles-child

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 8:02 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Details surface in case against priest

By Clifford Ward, Special to the Tribune
Chicago Tribune
January 21, 2010

The Catholic priest who attempted suicide after being accused of
sexually assaulting a young boy had a close relationship with the
boy's family, authorities said Thursday.

The Rev. Alejandro Flores, 37, was arraigned in Kane County Court on
seven felony counts that allege the Bolivian-born priest molested the
boy over a five-year period, starting in January 2005, when the boy
would have been 8.

Flores, who was ordained last year, was a seminarian assigned to St.
Mary Catholic Church in West Chicago when the alleged abuse began.
Authorities alleged that abuse also took place at the boy's home and
in Flores' vehicle.

Flores was arrested Wednesday after his release from a Joliet-area
hospital where he had been taken following an apparent suicide
attempt this month. Church officials said Flores, who had knowledge
of the abuse investigation against him, had hurled himself from the
balcony of a shuttered Joliet church. He had been serving at a
Shorewood church when the abuse allegations surfaced.

Flores did not need assistance to enter or leave the courtroom
Thursday and did not show any obvious signs of injury.

Assistant Kane County State's Attorney Deb Bree told the judge that
the boyfriend of the boy's mother thought he had seen Flores and the
boy engaged in sexual contact on two occasions.

And in a bizarre revelation, Bree relayed a conversation a fellow
priest had with Flores while Flores was hospitalized. Flores
allegedly told the other priest that he had been at the boy's house
several months earlier, and that the mother had served him tequila.
Flores said he fell asleep and later awoke to find himself having
sexual contact with the youth.

Geneva attorney Glenn Sowa said several concerned parishioners from
one of the churches where Flores served had hired him to represent
the priest.

"Obviously, we intend to enter a plea of not guilty, and we'll move
forward from there," Sowa said.

Bree said Flores had surrendered his passport to authorities. He is
being held in the Kane County jail in lieu of $1 million bail. His
next court date was set for Feb. 10.

More at:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/ct-met-0122-flores-20100121,0,5785447.story

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 8:14 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"

Stop spamming aus.politics

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 8:27 pm
From: bharat

On Jan 30, 1:13 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d35e7b50-f50f-4028-ae3c-19dd17e4c...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
> Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > In article <d2b4459a-bf98-4150-963b-65660dd15...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.=
> > com>,
> > > =A0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > > In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googlegro=
> > ups.=3D
> > > > com>,
> > > > > =3DA0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> > > > > > "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na jaane
> > > > > > kise dhoondhey"
>
> > > > > > From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
>
> > > > > > After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following addres=
> > s
>
> > > > > >http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html
> > > > > Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
> > > > > know the language:
>
> > > > > It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
> > > > > know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.
>
> > > > > I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.
>
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> > > > Thanks for the correction. There is no reference to this film
> > > > at the customary places, such as IMDB. Even a search
> > > > under google did not locate it. Perhaps it was a megaflop
> > > > or was not released at all. In any case, the cast and
> > > > crew were as follows:
>
> > > > Year produced: 1954
> > > > Producer: CO. OP. PICS.
> > > > Director: S.SHRIWASTAWA
> > > > Music: MANOHAR
> > > > Cast: NALINI JAYWANT, SHEKHAR, PRAN, LEELA MISRA,
> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SUNALINI DEVI.
>
> > > One web site lists the producer as Corporate Pictures and the release
> > > date as Saturday, January 1, 1955. =A0But it is difficult to visualize
> > > a flop with Pran in it. =A0A friend who passed on recently was a
> > > walking Filmfare and imdb rolled into one. =A0He would bug everyone
> > > with his favorite trivia question: in how many films did Pran not
> > > play a villain and which ones? Who would want to see a film in
> > > which he played any other role!
>
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
>
> > As for Badi Mushki song, just enjoy the absolutely flawless
> > rendering by Lataji. And the wordings by Shailendra, depicting
> > the conflicts in a young maiden's mind leaving adolescence
> > and entering youth Very beautiful.
>
> > Re Pran, one that I can recall was Aah (1953), where Pran played
> > the role of Rajkapoor's doctor friend. Rajkapoor's character
> > discovers he is going to die of TB in a short time, but he
> > hides that fact from Nargis's character, and persuades
> > Pran's character to marry her.
>
> > The other I recall was a comedy type, named "Do Jasoos",
> > (mid 70s) or something like that. I remember the last scene
> > in which one of them (as a comic sequence) is seen
> > walking in a Burqa.
>
> Pran in a scene from "Do Jasoos":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHdVomdjAM
>
> I don't recall if Pran smoked a cigarette in the doctor role in
> "Aah", nor think that his non-villain roles did him good or the
> films at the box office.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

nor think that his non-villain roles did him good or the
films at the box office- Jai maharaj -Jyotioshi OS.
You seem to have forgotten UPKAAR

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 8:55 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <6e9ec18a-4a79-4d85-ad08-2132a0c7d755@f17g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
bharat <shubh37@gmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <d35e7b50-f50f-4028-ae3c-19dd17e4c...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.=
> com>,
> > =A0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > In article <d2b4459a-bf98-4150-963b-65660dd15...@b1g2000prc.googlegro=
> ups.=3D
> > > com>,
> > > > =3DA0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > > > In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googl=
> egro=3D
> > > ups.=3D3D
> > > > > com>,
> > > > > > =3D3DA0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na j=
> aane
> > > > > > > kise dhoondhey"
> >
> > > > > > > From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
> >
> > > > > > > After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following ad=
> dres=3D
> > > s
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html
> > > > > > Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
> > > > > > know the language:
> >
> > > > > > It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
> > > > > > know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.
> >
> > > > > > I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> > > > > Thanks for the correction. There is no reference to this film
> > > > > at the customary places, such as IMDB. Even a search
> > > > > under google did not locate it. Perhaps it was a megaflop
> > > > > or was not released at all. In any case, the cast and
> > > > > crew were as follows:
> >
> > > > > Year produced: 1954
> > > > > Producer: CO. OP. PICS.
> > > > > Director: S.SHRIWASTAWA
> > > > > Music: MANOHAR
> > > > > Cast: NALINI JAYWANT, SHEKHAR, PRAN, LEELA MISRA,
> > > > > =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0SUNALINI DEVI.
> >
> > > > One web site lists the producer as Corporate Pictures and the release
> > > > date as Saturday, January 1, 1955. =3DA0But it is difficult to visual=
> ize
> > > > a flop with Pran in it. =3DA0A friend who passed on recently was a
> > > > walking Filmfare and imdb rolled into one. =3DA0He would bug everyone
> > > > with his favorite trivia question: in how many films did Pran not
> > > > play a villain and which ones? Who would want to see a film in
> > > > which he played any other role!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > As for Badi Mushki song, just enjoy the absolutely flawless
> > > rendering by Lataji. And the wordings by Shailendra, depicting
> > > the conflicts in a young maiden's mind leaving adolescence
> > > and entering youth =A0Very beautiful.
> >
> > > Re Pran, one that I can recall was Aah (1953), where Pran played
> > > the role of Rajkapoor's doctor friend. Rajkapoor's character
> > > discovers he is going to die of TB in a short time, but he
> > > hides that fact from Nargis's character, and persuades
> > > Pran's character to marry her.
> >
> > > The other I recall was a comedy type, named "Do Jasoos",
> > > (mid 70s) or something like that. I remember the last scene
> > > in which one of them (as a comic sequence) is seen
> > > walking in a Burqa.
> >
> > Pran in a scene from "Do Jasoos":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-cHdVom=
> djAM
> >
> > I don't recall if Pran smoked a cigarette in the doctor role in
> > "Aah", nor think that his non-villain roles did him good or the
> > films at the box office. - Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi

> You seem to have forgotten UPKAAR

Yes (elderly, lots of information in the brain cells,
slower-than-before seek time -- but no dementia). "Upkaar"
was a launchpad onto different types of roles for Pran.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 9:43 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee

On Jan 29, 1:14 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> commies are compared for their bull doggish rigidity to a string of jute.
> it is said of the jute string that "you can burn it but it won't give up its
> twirls".
>
> <use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
> messagenews:20100122Kd71MWnM6U4B9C5aT4ODr4R@FH412...
>
>
>
> > Well his myopic Marxist boss JB has attained room temperature;
> > Australia must rejoice now that their commie poster boy has lost his
> > roots.
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > In article <4b5a23ce$0$12460$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> >>http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article104.html- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bundurrs are like kuttas in one respect - their tails cannot be
straightened, try all you can.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 10:22 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"

"usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
message news:20100129ITKLIemd955vF5F14nH7pkj@PjdVP...
> In article <BeOdnc6YYpFF6v7WnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>,
> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> posted:
>>
>> How many people have been killed by Christians IN THE NAME OF JESUS since
>> 911?
>
> Since the terrorist mission of Jesus is stated in the Christian bible, the
> answer to your question above is obvious:
>
> "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
> peace, but a sword.
> "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
> daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
> law.
> "And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
> - Matthew 10:34-36.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
He also said anyone who loves his parents more then me can never be a
Christian, so I can never be a Christian. But that doesn't make him a
terrorist if it does Muhammad said much worse stuff.

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