Saturday, January 9, 2010

rec.arts.movies.local.indian - 13 new messages in 6 topics - digest

rec.arts.movies.local.indian
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian?hl=en

rec.arts.movies.local.indian@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* NAME THE ENEMY - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/91fbd65857c0b0ab?hl=en
* Thank God we did not fall pray to Gandhigiri - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/912a3b68deaed65a?hl=en
* kerals are now alcoholics - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/3b8d21cb2938a7ed?hl=en
* Australian spin machine can't hide the truth - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/af440158c89d015d?hl=en
* Indians Back the Least Rotten Party - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/28bcc7546cf3f38c?hl=en
* 3rd CHRISTIAN PRIEST SEX CRIMES LAWSUIT FILED - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/4fe8bab628d84dd1?hl=en

==============================================================================
TOPIC: NAME THE ENEMY
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/91fbd65857c0b0ab?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 3:49 pm
From: "harmony"


arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his delusions
ideological.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100108XA45S57LpT9oC6b7elqq8in@AkvMF...
> The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
> FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
> Savage.
>
> As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
> have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
> foolishness.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> thank you.
>> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama blindly. thre
>> will never be another einstein again.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> >I agree with harmony ji. To those who must use the phrase "radical
>> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a terrorist
>> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >>
>> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the enemy
>> >> either -
>> >> the job it wants obama to do.
>> >>
>> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
>> >>
>> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by pundits, that
>> >> is
>> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
>> >> thankfully
>> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
>> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the proof is
>> >> in
>> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get in the
>> >> way
>> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones". what drives
>> >> terrorism
>> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting terrorists is
>> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is islam of koran. no recruit is
>> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has koranic war
>> >> manual
>> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran, afghanistan,
>> >> yemen,
>> >> malysia on and on.
>> >>
>> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan world.
>> >> it
>> >> is
>> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
>> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
>> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan was
>> >> made
>> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
>> >> japanese
>> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to misunderstand
>> >> islam
>> >> as religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need to be
>> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
>> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if islam
>> >> did?
>> >
>> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >>
>> >> > Name the enemy
>> >> >
>> >> > Editorial
>> >> > The Jerusalem Post
>> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
>> >> >
>> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
>> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot be
>> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
>> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices ahead.
>> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
>> >> >
>> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World Trade
>> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
>> >> >
>> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried out in
>> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born Muslim,
>> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking bombs."
>> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five young
>> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against America
>> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a threat --
>> >> > just
>> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
>> >> >
>> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest Flight
>> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder was
>> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with bases in
>> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere else, and
>> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a relentless
>> >> > state
>> >> > of war with the West.
>> >> >
>> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan, Pakistan,
>> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the [Abdulmutallab]
>> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full chaos in
>> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
>> >> > al-Qaida."
>> >> >
>> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the conflict,
>> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not properly
>> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
>> >> >
>> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a "war
>> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
>> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
>> >> > courage
>> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically -- in
>> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or Arabia --
>> >> > but
>> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim civilization.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say, the
>> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near the
>> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of seven
>> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted ax-murder of
>> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend -- is for
>> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want, and
>> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
>> >> >
>> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
>> >> > reaction
>> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it was
>> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be to
>> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that Abdulmutallab
>> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
>> >> >
>> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
>> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt, to
>> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten us...anywhere
>> >> > where
>> >> > they are planning attacks..."
>> >> >
>> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the world."
>> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the enemy,
>> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
>> >> >
>> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be able to
>> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
>> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
>> >> >
>> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
>> >> > trusted.
>> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were freed in a
>> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of the
>> >> > Yemeni secret police.
>> >> >
>> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the struggle
>> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an enemy
>> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance by
>> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to know
>> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes accidentally
>> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
>> >> >
>> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen that,
>> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists,
>> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for profiling.
>> >> >
>> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front, against an
>> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for success.
>> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which wants
>> >> > to
>> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would mean an
>> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and democracy.
>> >> >
>> >> > More at:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPost%2FJPA
>> >> rticle%2FShowFull
>> >> >
>> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >> > Om Shanti
>> >> >
>> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>> >> > educational
>> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post
>> >> > may
>> >> > not
>> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion
>> >> > of
>> >> > the
>> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>> >> > exemption
>> >> > for
>> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
>> >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
>> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
>> >> > current
>> >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>> >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
>> >> > others
>> >> > are
>> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
>> >> > article.
>> >> >
>> >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the
>> >> > use
>> >> > of
>> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the
>> >> > copyright
>> >> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance
>> >> > the
>> >> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
>> >> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is
>> >> > believed
>> >> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material
>> >> > as
>> >> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance
>> >> > with
>> >> > Title
>> >> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
>> >> > without
>> >> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the
>> >> > included
>> >> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational
>> >> > purposes
>> >> > by
>> >> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
>> >> > information
>> >> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>> >> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
>> >> > purposes
>> >> > of
>> >> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from
>> >> > the
>> >> > copyright owner.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>> >> > by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>> >> > this post may be reposted several times.
>>
>>


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 4:48 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee


On Jan 9, 10:49 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his delusions
> ideological.
>
> <use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
> messagenews:20100108XA45S57LpT9oC6b7elqq8in@AkvMF...
>
>
>
> > The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
> > FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
> > Savage.
>
> > As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
> > have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
> > foolishness.
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> >> thank you.
> >> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama blindly. thre
> >> will never be another einstein again.
>
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> >> >I agree with harmony ji.  To those who must use the phrase "radical
> >> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a terrorist
> >> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
>
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> > Om Shanti
>
> >> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> >> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the enemy
> >> >> either -
> >> >> the job it wants obama to do.
>
> >> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
>
> >> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by pundits, that
> >> >> is
> >> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
> >> >> thankfully
> >> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
> >> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the proof is
> >> >> in
> >> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get in the
> >> >> way
> >> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones".  what drives
> >> >> terrorism
> >> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting terrorists is
> >> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is  islam of koran. no recruit is
> >> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has koranic war
> >> >> manual
> >> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran, afghanistan,
> >> >> yemen,
> >> >> malysia on and on.
>
> >> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan world.
> >> >> it
> >> >> is
> >> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
> >> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
> >> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan was
> >> >> made
> >> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
> >> >> japanese
> >> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to misunderstand
> >> >> islam
> >> >> as  religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need to be
> >> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
> >> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if islam
> >> >> did?
>
> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> >> >> > Name the enemy
>
> >> >> > Editorial
> >> >> > The Jerusalem Post
> >> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
>
> >> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
> >> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot be
> >> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
> >> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices ahead.
> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
>
> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World Trade
> >> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
>
> >> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried out in
> >> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born Muslim,
> >> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking bombs."
> >> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five young
> >> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against America
> >> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a threat --  
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
>
> >> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest Flight
> >> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder was
> >> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with bases in
> >> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere else, and
> >> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a relentless
> >> >> > state
> >> >> > of war with the West.
>
> >> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan, Pakistan,
> >> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the [Abdulmutallab]
> >> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full chaos in
> >> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
> >> >> > al-Qaida."
>
> >> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the conflict,
> >> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not properly
> >> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
>
> >> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a "war
> >> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
> >> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
> >> >> > courage
> >> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
>
> >> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically -- in
> >> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or Arabia --  
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim civilization.
>
> >> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say, the
> >> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near the
> >> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of seven
> >> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted ax-murder of
> >> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend -- is for
> >> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want, and
> >> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
>
> >> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
> >> >> > reaction
> >> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it was
> >> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be to
> >> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that Abdulmutallab
> >> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
>
> >> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
> >> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt, to
> >> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten us...anywhere
> >> >> > where
> >> >> > they are planning attacks..."
>
> >> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the world."
> >> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the enemy,
> >> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
>
> >> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be able to
> >> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
> >> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
>
> >> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
> >> >> > trusted.
> >> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were freed in a
> >> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of the
> >> >> > Yemeni secret police.
>
> >> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the struggle
> >> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an enemy
> >> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance by
> >> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to know
> >> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes accidentally
> >> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
>
> >> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen that,
> >> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists,
> >> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for profiling.
>
> >> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front, against an
> >> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for success.
> >> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which wants
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would mean an
> >> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and democracy.
>
> >> >> > More at:
>
> >>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPo...
> >> >> rticle%2FShowFull
>
> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> > Om Shanti
>
> >> >> >     o  Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >> >> > educational
> >> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post
> >> >> > may
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
> >> >> > exemption
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> >> >> >     o  If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> >> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> >> >> > current
> >> >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> >> >> >     o  Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> >> >> > article.
>
> >> >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the
> >> >> > use
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the
> >> >> > copyright
> >> >> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
> >> >> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is
>
> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oi bundree, kee gul hondeya? I have already proved Einstein's ideas
are worthless, and those of worth evidently agree with me. For no
person of merit has countered by objection presented in
http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMint.htm
One Just-Me character put up a weak defence, but has been replied to
convincingly. The entire relativity bullshit has thus collapsed like
a house of cards, so far as honest folk and intelligent folk are
concerned.
Essentially I am not interested in a mahabungler like Einstein, though
I have to be more interested about him than your great-unca gandi. For
I have a HTN to build, and an IFE to make in order to fly into deep
space at super-luminal velocities. And the wrong theories of
Einstein, that the stupid world still fancies at least at the funding/
political/media/academia institutional levels, are a hindrance.

It is not the wrong relativity stuff which is the issue, for me,
though; what needs countering is the second law of thermodynamics by
making a working model of an IFE. That too will be done, for already
research on rail gun reaction has proved my new theories.

A bundree like you cannot understand very much, but can howl a lot.
So howl away, bundree, what else can you do?

By the way, I was at the Adelaide zoo recently. We went to see the
new pandas they have got there.
Everyone wants to see the pandas Wang Wang and Funi. However, they
are available only by appointment. We got the 12:15
So we went around the zoo, and admired the pygmy hippo, the giraffes,
the black cockies, the kookaburra, the lyrebird, the mountain goats,
etc. We wanted to see the Sun Bear, whose bile the Chinese extract
with such cruelty, but did not find the poor thing. While admiring
the tapir, we heard a lot of horrible noises. Hoop-hoop-hoop, very
loudly indeed. They were your cousins, dear bundree. Howler monkeys,
howling away with all their might. What a racket. So reminded me of
you and your obnoxious master the jBm.

About the pandas, now. There was a huge line. No reasonable God
would have been displeased by such adoration and devotion. We spent
nearly 20 minutes in the line, then were hurried along by the keepers.
We got darshan for hardly 2 minutes.

But what an experience, o bundree! They told us that Funi was
sleeping, and Wang Wang was chomping. Funi was sleeping all right in
her hammock, but just for a couple of seconds she stretched out - and
oh so cute it was! It was like a huge stuffed toy had suddenly taken
life! The fat limbs, the large head, the big tummy, all flowed in
joyous motion! Better than a Maradona goal, bundree. Then she went
back to sleep. Wang Wang was not sleeping. He was lying on one side,
scratching himself with a hind leg, and chomping away on some bamboo
shoot with the utmost aplomb. "Bindaas" was an IIT KgP expression
used to signify carefreeness - now, that applies to the pandas. In
our unfortunate human world, the sweet pandas are such a welcome,
uplifting experience! These mammals are shy vegetarians, living far
away for everything, and have survived unchanged for three million
years. What an achievement!

There is a lesson in all this, o bundree, that I wish you had the wits
to find.

Cheers. Up your tail, swing in joy, go eat a banana.

Arindam Banerjee.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 5:20 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


His last name "Banerjee" is related to "vanar" or "bandar".
Perhaps he can still see the light and become as wise as a bandar.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b47c4a6$0$5326$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his delusions
> ideological.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
> > FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
> > Savage.
> >
> > As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
> > have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
> > foolishness.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> thank you.
> >> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama blindly. thre
> >> will never be another einstein again.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> >I agree with harmony ji. To those who must use the phrase "radical
> >> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a terrorist
> >> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >
> >> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the enemy
> >> >> either -
> >> >> the job it wants obama to do.
> >> >>
> >> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
> >> >>
> >> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by pundits, that
> >> >> is
> >> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
> >> >> thankfully
> >> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
> >> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the proof is
> >> >> in
> >> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get in the
> >> >> way
> >> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones". what drives
> >> >> terrorism
> >> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting terrorists is
> >> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is islam of koran. no recruit is
> >> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has koranic war
> >> >> manual
> >> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran, afghanistan,
> >> >> yemen,
> >> >> malysia on and on.
> >> >>
> >> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan world.
> >> >> it
> >> >> is
> >> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
> >> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
> >> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan was
> >> >> made
> >> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
> >> >> japanese
> >> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to misunderstand
> >> >> islam
> >> >> as religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need to be
> >> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
> >> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if islam
> >> >> did?
> >> >
> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Name the enemy
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Editorial
> >> >> > The Jerusalem Post
> >> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
> >> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot be
> >> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
> >> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices ahead.
> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World Trade
> >> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried out in
> >> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born Muslim,
> >> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking bombs."
> >> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five young
> >> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against America
> >> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a threat --
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest Flight
> >> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder was
> >> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with bases in
> >> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere else, and
> >> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a relentless
> >> >> > state
> >> >> > of war with the West.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan, Pakistan,
> >> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the [Abdulmutallab]
> >> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full chaos in
> >> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
> >> >> > al-Qaida."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the conflict,
> >> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not properly
> >> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a "war
> >> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
> >> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
> >> >> > courage
> >> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically -- in
> >> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or Arabia --
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim civilization.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say, the
> >> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near the
> >> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of seven
> >> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted ax-murder of
> >> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend -- is for
> >> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want, and
> >> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
> >> >> > reaction
> >> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it was
> >> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be to
> >> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that Abdulmutallab
> >> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
> >> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt, to
> >> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten us...anywhere
> >> >> > where
> >> >> > they are planning attacks..."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the world."
> >> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the enemy,
> >> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be able to
> >> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
> >> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
> >> >> > trusted.
> >> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were freed in a
> >> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of the
> >> >> > Yemeni secret police.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the struggle
> >> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an enemy
> >> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance by
> >> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to know
> >> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes accidentally
> >> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen that,
> >> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists,
> >> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for profiling.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front, against an
> >> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for success.
> >> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which wants
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would mean an
> >> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and democracy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > More at:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPost%2FJPA
> >> >> rticle%2FShowFull
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >> >
> >> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >> >> > educational
> >> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post
> >> >> > may
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
> >> >> > exemption
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> >> >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> >> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> >> >> > current
> >> >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> >> >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> >> >> > article.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the
> >> >> > use
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the
> >> >> > copyright
> >> >> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
> >> >> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is
> >> >> > believed
> >> >> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > Title
> >> >> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
> >> >> > without
> >> >> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the
> >> >> > included
> >> >> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational
> >> >> > purposes
> >> >> > by
> >> >> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
> >> >> > information
> >> >> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
> >> >> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
> >> >> > purposes
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > copyright owner.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since newsgroup posts are being removed
> >> >> > by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
> >> >> > this post may be reposted several times.
> >>
> >>
>
>


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 5:53 pm
From: "harmony"


bandars are very honorable beings. and that holds out the hope. he seems to
have a good inter-tree swing but always catches dried out branches.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100108Y1MU5W0I3Umrer578UypKF5@A1FSz...
> His last name "Banerjee" is related to "vanar" or "bandar".
> Perhaps he can still see the light and become as wise as a bandar.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b47c4a6$0$5326$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his
>> delusions
>> ideological.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
>> > FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
>> > Savage.
>> >
>> > As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
>> > have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
>> > foolishness.
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>> > In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >>
>> >> thank you.
>> >> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama blindly.
>> >> thre
>> >> will never be another einstein again.
>> >
>> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >>
>> >> >I agree with harmony ji. To those who must use the phrase "radical
>> >> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a terrorist
>> >> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
>> >> >
>> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >> > Om Shanti
>> >> >
>> >> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the enemy
>> >> >> either -
>> >> >> the job it wants obama to do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by pundits,
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
>> >> >> thankfully
>> >> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
>> >> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the proof
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> way
>> >> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones". what drives
>> >> >> terrorism
>> >> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting terrorists
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is islam of koran. no recruit
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has koranic
>> >> >> war
>> >> >> manual
>> >> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran, afghanistan,
>> >> >> yemen,
>> >> >> malysia on and on.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan
>> >> >> world.
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
>> >> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
>> >> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan was
>> >> >> made
>> >> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
>> >> >> japanese
>> >> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to
>> >> >> misunderstand
>> >> >> islam
>> >> >> as religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need to
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
>> >> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if
>> >> >> islam
>> >> >> did?
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Name the enemy
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Editorial
>> >> >> > The Jerusalem Post
>> >> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
>> >> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot be
>> >> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
>> >> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices
>> >> >> > ahead.
>> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World Trade
>> >> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried out
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born
>> >> >> > Muslim,
>> >> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking
>> >> >> > bombs."
>> >> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five young
>> >> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against America
>> >> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a threat --
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest
>> >> >> > Flight
>> >> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder was
>> >> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with bases
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere else,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a relentless
>> >> >> > state
>> >> >> > of war with the West.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan,
>> >> >> > Pakistan,
>> >> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the
>> >> >> > [Abdulmutallab]
>> >> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full chaos
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
>> >> >> > al-Qaida."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the
>> >> >> > conflict,
>> >> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not
>> >> >> > properly
>> >> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a
>> >> >> > "war
>> >> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
>> >> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
>> >> >> > courage
>> >> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically -- in
>> >> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or Arabia --
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim
>> >> >> > civilization.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say, the
>> >> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of seven
>> >> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted ax-murder
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend -- is
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
>> >> >> > reaction
>> >> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be to
>> >> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that
>> >> >> > Abdulmutallab
>> >> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
>> >> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt, to
>> >> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten us...anywhere
>> >> >> > where
>> >> >> > they are planning attacks..."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the world."
>> >> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the
>> >> >> > enemy,
>> >> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be able
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
>> >> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
>> >> >> > trusted.
>> >> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were freed
>> >> >> > in a
>> >> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of the
>> >> >> > Yemeni secret police.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the
>> >> >> > struggle
>> >> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an
>> >> >> > enemy
>> >> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance by
>> >> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to know
>> >> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes
>> >> >> > accidentally
>> >> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen
>> >> >> > that,
>> >> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists,
>> >> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for
>> >> >> > profiling.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front, against
>> >> >> > an
>> >> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for success.
>> >> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which
>> >> >> > wants
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would mean
>> >> >> > an
>> >> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and
>> >> >> > democracy.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > More at:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPost%2FJPA
>> >> >> rticle%2FShowFull
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >> >> > Om Shanti
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>> >> >> > educational
>> >> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
>> >> >> > post
>> >> >> > may
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
>> >> >> > opinion
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
>> >> >> > exemption
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
>> >> >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
>> >> >> > read,
>> >> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal
>> >> >> > name,
>> >> >> > current
>> >> >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>> >> >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
>> >> >> > others
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > article.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > use
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the
>> >> >> > copyright
>> >> >> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to
>> >> >> > advance
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights,
>> >> >> > economic,
>> >> >> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is
>> >> >> > believed
>> >> >> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
>> >> >> > material
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In
>> >> >> > accordance
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > Title
>> >> >> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
>> >> >> > without
>> >> >> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > included
>> >> >> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational
>> >> >> > purposes
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
>> >> >> > information
>> >> >> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>> >> >> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
>> >> >> > purposes
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > copyright owner.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>> >> >> > by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>> >> >> > this post may be reposted several times.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 6:31 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


He is flying hyperbolically. He can't calculate the correct flight
path; sure enough, he cut classes at the IIT, as he has confessed,
failing the attendance requirements, fraudulently obtaining the
B.Tech.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b47e182$0$5334$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> bandars are very honorable beings. and that holds out the hope. he seems to
> have a good inter-tree swing but always catches dried out branches.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > His last name "Banerjee" is related to "vanar" or "bandar".
> > Perhaps he can still see the light and become as wise as a bandar.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti

> > In article <4b47c4a6$0$5326$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> arindam's ignorance seems sincere, his stupidy conscientious, his
> >> delusions
> >> ideological.

> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > The PC bug seems to have bitten nearly all news organizations, even
> >> > FOX News at times. Even Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck... even Michael
> >> > Savage.
> >> >
> >> > As far as another Einstein is concerned, IIT-fraud Arindam's dreams
> >> > have been dashed already by his deceit, delusions and commie
> >> > foolishness.
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> > Om Shanti

> >> > In article <4b478bd1$0$5363$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> thank you.
> >> >> the jewish folks are following the jerusalem post and obama blindly.
> >> >> thre
> >> >> will never be another einstein again.
> >> >
> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I agree with harmony ji. To those who must use the phrase "radical
> >> >> > Islam" I suggest that they write instead "Islam, which a terrorist
> >> >> > religion, philosophy and way of life".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In article <4b462db7$0$5316$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> >> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, the jerusalem post did not do a good job of naming the enemy
> >> >> >> either -
> >> >> >> the job it wants obama to do.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> but i can name the enemy: it is islam.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> to say the enemy is radical islam is a spin, invented by pundits,
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> going to cause more harm to the civilization than anything else.
> >> >> >> thankfully
> >> >> >> there was no "radical nazism" spin in ww2 days.
> >> >> >> radical islam is the islam known down thr' the centuries. the proof
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> pudding. if anything, it is the "moderate muslims" who will get in
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> way
> >> >> >> of countries wanting to take on the "radical ones". what drives
> >> >> >> terrorism
> >> >> >> is islam of koran as is. the main vehicle for recruiting terrorists
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> islam. the main vehicle for training is islam of koran. no recruit
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> deployed until he is well trained in islam. paki army has koranic
> >> >> >> war
> >> >> >> manual
> >> >> >> for their training. it is same stuff in saudi, iran, afghanistan,
> >> >> >> yemen,
> >> >> >> malysia on and on.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> thus, the challenge for the west is to de-islamize the mommedan
> >> >> >> world.
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> same challenge that was successfully met by g.i. of america in
> >> >> >> de-nazification of the germans following the v-e day.
> >> >> >> gi's did not talk about rebuilding nations and yet marshal plan was
> >> >> >> made
> >> >> >> available, but only after unconditional surrender by nazis and
> >> >> >> japanese
> >> >> >> imperialists. the biggest mistake made by the west is to
> >> >> >> misunderstand
> >> >> >> islam
> >> >> >> as religion worthy of special treatment. actually, muslims need to
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> liberated from islam. no islam, no terror: i guarantee it.
> >> >> >> does anybody doubt that terror that we witness will disappear if
> >> >> >> islam
> >> >> >> did?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Name the enemy
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Editorial
> >> >> >> > The Jerusalem Post
> >> >> >> > Sunday, January 3, 2010
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Western
> >> >> >> > civilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot be
> >> >> >> > overcome while the American, European and other freedom-loving
> >> >> >> > peoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices
> >> >> >> > ahead.
> >> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World Trade
> >> >> >> > Center towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried out
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > November at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born
> >> >> >> > Muslim,
> >> >> >> > showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking
> >> >> >> > bombs."
> >> >> >> > And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five young
> >> >> >> > Pakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against America
> >> >> >> > irrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a threat --
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > as they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest
> >> >> >> > Flight
> >> >> >> > 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder was
> >> >> >> > only the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with bases
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > Africa, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere else,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > a noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a relentless
> >> >> >> > state
> >> >> >> > of war with the West.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan,
> >> >> >> > Pakistan,
> >> >> >> > Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the
> >> >> >> > [Abdulmutallab]
> >> >> >> > plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full chaos
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > Yemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for
> >> >> >> > al-Qaida."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the
> >> >> >> > conflict,
> >> >> >> > it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not
> >> >> >> > properly
> >> >> >> > framed the nature of the threat.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a
> >> >> >> > "war
> >> >> >> > on terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of
> >> >> >> > "violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the
> >> >> >> > courage
> >> >> >> > to say that the enemy is global jihad.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The Islamist danger is not primarily rooted geographically -- in
> >> >> >> > Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran or Arabia --
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > theologically and politically within the larger Muslim
> >> >> >> > civilization.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say, the
> >> >> >> > devastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Pakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of seven
> >> >> >> > seasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted ax-murder
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > a cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend -- is
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > their leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > what is at stake if they succeed.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first
> >> >> >> > reaction
> >> >> >> > to the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it
> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> > unconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be to
> >> >> >> > change mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that
> >> >> >> > Abdulmutallab
> >> >> >> > appeared to be an "isolated extremist."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positively
> >> >> >> > Churchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt, to
> >> >> >> > dismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten us...anywhere
> >> >> >> > where
> >> >> >> > they are planning attacks..."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the world."
> >> >> >> > Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the
> >> >> >> > enemy,
> >> >> >> > declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be able
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > talk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to find
> >> >> >> > trustworthy Muslim allies.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they
> >> >> >> > trusted.
> >> >> >> > Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were freed
> >> >> >> > in a
> >> >> >> > prison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of the
> >> >> >> > Yemeni secret police.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the
> >> >> >> > struggle
> >> >> >> > against the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an
> >> >> >> > enemy
> >> >> >> > that is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance by
> >> >> >> > beheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to know
> >> >> >> > this, to understand why innocent children are sometimes
> >> >> >> > accidentally
> >> >> >> > killed in military operations conducted by allied forces.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen
> >> >> >> > that,
> >> >> >> > though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists,
> >> >> >> > pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for
> >> >> >> > profiling.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front, against
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > ill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for success.
> >> >> >> > Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which
> >> >> >> > wants
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > spread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would mean
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > end to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and
> >> >> >> > democracy.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > More at:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPost%2FJPA
> >> >> >> rticle%2FShowFull
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> >> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >> >> >> > educational
> >> >> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this
> >> >> >> > post
> >> >> >> > may
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the
> >> >> >> > opinion
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the
> >> >> >> > exemption
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> >> >> >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be
> >> >> >> > read,
> >> >> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal
> >> >> >> > name,
> >> >> >> > current
> >> >> >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> >> >> >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by
> >> >> >> > others
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > article.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > use
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the
> >> >> >> > copyright
> >> >> >> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to
> >> >> >> > advance
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights,
> >> >> >> > economic,
> >> >> >> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is
> >> >> >> > believed
> >> >> >> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted
> >> >> >> > material
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In
> >> >> >> > accordance
> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> > Title
> >> >> >> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed
> >> >> >> > without
> >> >> >> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > included
> >> >> >> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational
> >> >> >> > purposes
> >> >> >> > by
> >> >> >> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
> >> >> >> > information
> >> >> >> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
> >> >> >> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for
> >> >> >> > purposes
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > copyright owner.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Since newsgroup posts are being removed
> >> >> >> > by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
> >> >> >> > this post may be reposted several times.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Thank God we did not fall pray to Gandhigiri
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/912a3b68deaed65a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 3:50 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"


Yep Gandhi said Brittan should surrender to the Nazi's. That shows his true
colors.


==============================================================================
TOPIC: kerals are now alcoholics
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/3b8d21cb2938a7ed?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 4:39 pm
From: "harmony"


oh yes; unless biharis move in and take over.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100104H4Zou0jbQr7LdQKYRSf8942@C0ALE...
>I will not be surpsised if Kerala becomes a hub for terrorists.
> Is Kerala tomorrow's Yemen?
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b31272e$0$5339$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> daroowala state is already slipping in literacy. it is the beginning of
>> the
>> tortuous journey ahead.
>> kick malayas out of your states for snaity. these guys actually use
>> govt's
>> resources (which is actually peoples' resources) to drug people. this is
>> just like the jihadis who use victims' resources to inflict damage on the
>> victim.
>> don't trust commies or any of the 3m.
>
>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b310dbd$0$5332$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>> > No recession, alcohol sales rise in Kerala
>> >
>> > Naveen Nair & R Reghu Raj / CNN-IBN
>> >
>> > Published on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 00:54,
>> >
>> > Thiruvananthapuram: Kerala might have been pushed down to the second
>> > spot
>> > when it comes to literacy. But when it comes to drinking, there are
>> > perhaps not many to compete with the average Malayalee who thinks every
>> > celebration is an excuse to drink.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ninety five crore is only the money spent to buy liquor at government
>> > run
>> > outlets. The actual figure, if you add sales at bars and country-side
>> > outlets, would be much higher. The Malayalee's taste for the tipple is
>> > only growing despite the recession.
>> >
>> >
>> > "During festive season, we will drink no matter what, to forget our
>> > troubles. Nobody can change that," says Sebastian, a resident of
>> > Chalakudy.
>> >
>> >
>> > The liquor sales during the Christmas-New Year season pales in
>> > comparison
>> > to the 143 crores spent during last Onam. Liquor is so popular that it
>> > even flows freely at conferences of political parties. And an alarming
>> > fall out are scenes of molestation and misbehavior, especially during
>> > New
>> > Year celebrations.
>> >
>> >
>> > "There are many reasons for this. One is that youngsters are going
>> > through
>> > internal and external strain," says Psychologist, K S David.
>> >
>> >
>> > But the state government doesn't seem too concerned. After all liquor
>> > sale
>> > feeds a sizable chunk of the exchequer. Even a church decree asking
>> > people
>> > to stay away from drinks this Christmas seems falling on deaf ears;
>> > this
>> > is one habit of the Malayalee that will perhaps stay forever.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 5:16 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


vo vahaa(n) jaakar patnay kee pitaae karenge -- rehab bihaaree ishtyle |

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b47d02a$0$5325$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> oh yes; unless biharis move in and take over.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> >I will not be surpsised if Kerala becomes a hub for terrorists.
> > Is Kerala tomorrow's Yemen?
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > In article <4b31272e$0$5339$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> daroowala state is already slipping in literacy. it is the beginning of
> >> the
> >> tortuous journey ahead.
> >> kick malayas out of your states for snaity. these guys actually use
> >> govt's
> >> resources (which is actually peoples' resources) to drug people. this is
> >> just like the jihadis who use victims' resources to inflict damage on the
> >> victim.
> >> don't trust commies or any of the 3m.
> >
> >> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4b310dbd$0$5332$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> >> > No recession, alcohol sales rise in Kerala
> >> >
> >> > Naveen Nair & R Reghu Raj / CNN-IBN
> >> >
> >> > Published on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 00:54,
> >> >
> >> > Thiruvananthapuram: Kerala might have been pushed down to the second
> >> > spot
> >> > when it comes to literacy. But when it comes to drinking, there are
> >> > perhaps not many to compete with the average Malayalee who thinks every
> >> > celebration is an excuse to drink.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ninety five crore is only the money spent to buy liquor at government
> >> > run
> >> > outlets. The actual figure, if you add sales at bars and country-side
> >> > outlets, would be much higher. The Malayalee's taste for the tipple is
> >> > only growing despite the recession.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "During festive season, we will drink no matter what, to forget our
> >> > troubles. Nobody can change that," says Sebastian, a resident of
> >> > Chalakudy.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The liquor sales during the Christmas-New Year season pales in
> >> > comparison
> >> > to the 143 crores spent during last Onam. Liquor is so popular that it
> >> > even flows freely at conferences of political parties. And an alarming
> >> > fall out are scenes of molestation and misbehavior, especially during
> >> > New
> >> > Year celebrations.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "There are many reasons for this. One is that youngsters are going
> >> > through
> >> > internal and external strain," says Psychologist, K S David.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > But the state government doesn't seem too concerned. After all liquor
> >> > sale
> >> > feeds a sizable chunk of the exchequer. Even a church decree asking
> >> > people
> >> > to stay away from drinks this Christmas seems falling on deaf ears;
> >> > this
> >> > is one habit of the Malayalee that will perhaps stay forever.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 5:33 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Quick, somebody cut the liquor in Kerala with gotu cola or something.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b47db4a$0$5323$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> keral students are made to stay late at schools to protect them from their
> drunk dads. dummy kerals, kick the 3m out - now.
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/2009/07/16/stories/2009071650720200.htm

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Australian spin machine can't hide the truth
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/af440158c89d015d?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 5:24 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4b47d355$0$5325$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
> "Eunometic" <eunometic@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:ffdd9be7-d235-4e9f-96b7-78f8548b6f81@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 7, 3:39 am, "Benway (original non-Zionist)"
> <captai...@mailpuppy.com> wrote:
> > Torpedo wrote:
> > >http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/feelgood-sops-from-politicians...
> >
> > > Feelgood sops from politicians are no help in healing a mother's
> > > heartbreak
> >
> > > January 7, 2010
> >
> > > If I were a mother in India, I wouldn't want my son going to Melbourne
> > > to
> > > study, after the spate of "curry-bashings" that has now resulted in a
> > > death.
> > > Accounting graduate Nitin Garg, 21, from Punjab, was fatally stabbed on
> > > Saturday while on his way to work as night manager at a Hungry Jack's
> > > store
> > > in Melbourne's western suburbs.
> >
> > > Police and other Victorian authorities immediately claimed it was not a
> > > racist attack, but how could they know that, especially when his wallet
> > > was
> > > left behind?
>
> <<How do people know it WAS a racist attack?
> How do people know it WAS'NT a racist attack?
>
> The term 'currry bashing' is also the invention of a trend that
> doesn't exist. There has been no such thing as a social phenomena.
> We know of no group of people, no organisation specifically upset at
> Indians in Australia or making a fuss.>>

> so, where are the conservative bnp leaders of the white people in the oz?
> don't come running to britain when you all lose power, ok? do you all need
> some bpn leaders from london?

The next time Sarah Palin is in Hawaii I'll ask her if she can help the conservatives there.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 5:28 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4b47d498$0$5322$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> "netvegetable" <notrealemail@all.com> wrote in message
> news:9A91n.2464$Kq7.1794@newsfe04.iad...
> > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:24:33 +1100, Torpedo wrote:
> >
> >> What an indictment of Australia that it can't keep visitors safe.
> >
> > Garg wasn't a visitor, he was a Permanent Resident, who chose to walk
> > through a park at night in an area well known for gang violence and knife
> > attacks.
> >
> > I suspect the same thing could have happened in any city, don't you?

> he did not choose, he had to as in doing a job, trying to earn a living.
> i want to know if the oz govt gives welfare checks so people like him
> wouldn't have to work so they wouldn't have to "choose" to walk nights..

That's right, after the murder and suffering Bharatiya have
had to endure there, entitlements are the least the government
can provide.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Indians Back the Least Rotten Party
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/28bcc7546cf3f38c?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 6:39 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4a1c1a7e$0$23763$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
> "Kalidas Mallu Unquotawala" <KalluMallu123@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:guo59g$npa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> > Moorthy wrote:
> >> Let us just look at the main choice Indian voters had:
> >>
> >> 1. Despotic, corrupt and family-owned congress party, led by a retard
> >> served by a sycophantic clique who backed by $billions of ill-gotten
> >> wealth sloshed away in overseas banks.
> >
> > Okay, you don't like the UPA.
> >
> >> 2. An archaic party of hate-mongers led by a senile loudmouth
> >> nincompoop Advani, who had nothing o offer except talk about
> >> nonsensical issue like temples, preservation of ancient mythical
> >> bridges and such nonsense.
> >
> > Okay, you don't like the NDA.
> >
>
> there is no hate, no senility, no loudmouthness associated with wanting to
> preserve ancient mythical bridges, and wanting to claim the mandir thr' fair
> and square means.
> besides, advani has plenty to offer beside the "issues" (imagined by
> moorthy) that were not raised by the bjp in this election.
> bjp talked mostly about development this issue. why does moorthy hate
> hindus?

If one hates Hindus then he or she is a part of the problem, not solution.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

==============================================================================
TOPIC: 3rd CHRISTIAN PRIEST SEX CRIMES LAWSUIT FILED
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/4fe8bab628d84dd1?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 7:02 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Habshi formerly used the alias "mo" -- mo for mono and mo for Mohammedan.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4a11ad50$0$23775$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> ok, this one for habshi's benefit: it is not recylced, it is a new story.
> not that i expect habshi to give up his mono mindset.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Third priest sex abuse lawsuit filed
> >
> > By Elizabeth Hardin-Burrola
> > Staff writer
> > Gallup Independent
> > Wednesday, May 13, 2009
> >
> > Window Rock, AZ - A third priest abuse lawsuit has been
> > filed in the Navajo Nation court system against Charles
> > "Chuck" Cichanowicz, a former Franciscan priest who once
> > served at Catholic parishes in St. Michaels and Shiprock.
> >
> > The complaint was filed in Window Rock District Court on
> > Monday on behalf of a 45-year-old Navajo man, said Patrick
> > Noaker, an attorney with Jeff Anderson & Associates of St.
> > Paul, Minn. Noaker and Gallup attorney William R. Keeler
> > have filed two previous civil complaints naming Cichanowicz
> > as a defendant, along with the Diocese of Gallup, the
> > Franciscan Friars Province of St. John the Baptist, and the
> > Franciscan Friars Province of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
> >
> > The first complaint was filed in November 2007, and the
> > second was filed in April of this year. All three alleged
> > victims are Navajo men in their 30s or 40s who claim
> > Cichanowicz abused them during their teen years. The legal
> > complaints can be read online on the law firm's Web site.
> >
> > According to the complaint, "The beginning of the sexual
> > abuse took the form of grooming behaviors by Defendant
> > Priest in order to manipulate Plaintiff into having sexual
> > contact such as naked sunbathing and wrestling." The
> > lawsuit alleges these grooming behaviors resulted in
> > Cichanowicz transporting the boy from St. Michaels on the
> > Navajo Nation to Gallup, where he allegedly provided the
> > boy with alcohol and sexually abused him.
> >
> > Noaker said Cichanowicz's alleged grooming behaviors as
> > outlined in this complaint show the "same M.O." as outlined
> > in the April 2009 complaint. That lawsuit also involved a
> > teen from the St. Michaels area who was allegedly
> > transported to Gallup, where he was given alcohol and
> > sexually abused.
> >
> > This third lawsuit was in the process of being prepared,
> > Noaker said, before the second lawsuit was filed.
> >
> > This third alleged victim has said Cichanowicz stayed in
> > contact with him after the priest was transferred to
> > Shiprock, Noaker said. "Unfortunately," he said, "this is
> > consistent with a serial perpetrator."
> >
> > The alleged victim has since struggled with substance abuse
> > problems, Noaker added, and is currently incarcerated in
> > New Mexico.
> >
> > On Monday, the Independent attempted to contact Cichanowicz
> > at his most recent employer, the Alpine Clinic in
> > Lafayette, Ind. According to the clinic's medical director,
> > Dr. Nizar El-Khalili, Cichanowicz is no longer employed at
> > the clinic after voluntarily leaving his position recently.
> > El-Khalili said the clinic had "no issues" with Cichanowicz
> > during his years of employment and said he didn't know
> > where Cichanowicz was working now.
> >
> > "Well, he was just a wonderful counselor, and he did a
> > great job, and we never had any complaints against him," he
> > added.
> >
> > Contacted on Tuesday, Lee Lamb, the communications director
> > for the Diocese of Gallup, said he was not aware of this
> > third lawsuit. Lamb added he was not able to comment on
> > pending litigation.
> >
> > More at:
> > http://www.gallupindependent.com/2009/05May/051309thirdpriest.html
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.hindu.org
> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >
> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
> > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS
> >
> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> > educational
> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> > not
> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> > current
> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others
> > are
> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> > article.
> >
> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright
> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the
> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with
> > Title
> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the
> > included
> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by
> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
> > information
> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of
> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
> > copyright owner.
>
>


==============================================================================

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "rec.arts.movies.local.indian"
group.

To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian?hl=en

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rec.arts.movies.local.indian+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/subscribe?hl=en

To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com

==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/?hl=en

No comments: