Tuesday, December 22, 2009

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* ***** MSNBC - EINSTEIN LETTER CALLS BIBLE 'PRETTY CHILDISH' ***** Jai
Maharaj posts - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/01c9f6d24d7350b4?hl=en
* ***** RELATIVITY PASSES ABSOLUTE TEST: EXACTING RESEARCH FINDS EINSTEIN WAS
EXACTLY RIGHT ***** Jai Maharaj posts - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/6cb4811a5256ba87?hl=en
* * PLEASE DO CROSSPOST If you feel that a post will be of interest in more
than one newsgroup * Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/b0ac75b1be652a1a?hl=en
* ***** VFA SCHOLAR DR SUBHASH KAK SOLVES EINSTEIN'S TWIN PARADOX ***** Jai
Maharaj posts - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/d7060b062ea0f2ca?hl=en
* BRITS FEEL GUILTY ABOUT THEIR WEALTH [Jai Maharaj responds to harmony] - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/74b7b9b9e581af99?hl=en
* ***** UPPER AND LOWER CASTE CHRISTIANS CLASH, POLICE SHOOT AND KILL *****
Jai Maharaj posts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/44b05aa11e7fe874?hl=en
* ***** SWAMI VIVEKANAND ON THE CASTE SYSTEM ***** Jai Maharaj posts - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/660c3fcbb8ba70f3?hl=en

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TOPIC: ***** MSNBC - EINSTEIN LETTER CALLS BIBLE 'PRETTY CHILDISH' ***** Jai
Maharaj posts
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/01c9f6d24d7350b4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 2:32 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Einstein letter calls Bible 'pretty childish'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598856/?GT1=43001

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 3:20 pm
From: "harmony"


then he said: "you don't have to be an einstein to say that".

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20091221A85eb4fjUDR9I5qBdt6X85g@V8qZF...
> Einstein letter calls Bible 'pretty childish'
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598856/?GT1=43001
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 4:09 pm
From: fanabba


On Dec 21, 5:32�pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Einstein letter calls Bible 'pretty childish'
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598856/?GT1=43001
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

I understand Einstein held moal religions like Hinduism, Buddhism in
very high regard.
He did not think much of "sky god" religions.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 11:35 pm
From: fanabba


On Dec 21, 7:09�pm, fanabba <fana...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 5:32 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > Einstein letter calls Bible 'pretty childish'
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598856/?GT1=43001
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> I understand Einstein held moal religions like Hinduism, Buddhism in
> very high regard.
> He did not think much of "sky god" religions.
That should be "moral" religions like Hinduism, Buddhism.

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TOPIC: ***** RELATIVITY PASSES ABSOLUTE TEST: EXACTING RESEARCH FINDS EINSTEIN
WAS EXACTLY RIGHT ***** Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 3:11 pm
From: "harmony"


some people stage a morcha with laal jhanda to make us believe einstein was
wrong.
eg, flattered by the 3m crowd, arindam has sung to fast beat:
morcha hee morcha
einstein khota hee khota.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:R9OHGoh8pZVvR4GYbOtL0e1@BXJV0...
> Relativity Passes Absolute Test: Exacting research finds
> Einstein was exactly right
>
> By Stephen Ornes
> Discover
> June 22, 2007
>
> Nearly three years ago, NASA's oft-canceled $750 million
> Gravity Probe B Relativity Mission finally shot into space
> with one goal -- to quantify Einstein's predictions from
> Earth's orbit. Earlier this year, at the meeting of the
> American Physics Society, principal investigator Francis
> Everitt delivered the first results: Gravity Probe B has
> verified Einstein's theory to within 1 percent...
> Einstein's theory predicts that the axes should shift by a
> tiny amount -- 0.0018 degree -- under the influence of
> Earth's pull on space-time. After 18 months of data
> analysis, Everitt and his team measured the axial shift to
> within 1 percent...
>
> A thread of more than 40 posts continues here:
> http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1860974/posts
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 11:51 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


arindam deta dhoka
einstein ko kahe khota
ant mein arindam hee rota
kyo(n) rota?
kyo(n)ki usko dikhaya joota

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b3000c1$0$5318$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> some people stage a morcha with laal jhanda to make us believe einstein was
> wrong.
> eg, flattered by the 3m crowd, arindam has sung to fast beat:
> morcha hee morcha
> einstein khota hee khota.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Relativity Passes Absolute Test: Exacting research finds
> > Einstein was exactly right
> >
> > By Stephen Ornes
> > Discover
> > June 22, 2007
> >
> > Nearly three years ago, NASA's oft-canceled $750 million
> > Gravity Probe B Relativity Mission finally shot into space
> > with one goal -- to quantify Einstein's predictions from
> > Earth's orbit. Earlier this year, at the meeting of the
> > American Physics Society, principal investigator Francis
> > Everitt delivered the first results: Gravity Probe B has
> > verified Einstein's theory to within 1 percent...
> > Einstein's theory predicts that the axes should shift by a
> > tiny amount -- 0.0018 degree -- under the influence of
> > Earth's pull on space-time. After 18 months of data
> > analysis, Everitt and his team measured the axial shift to
> > within 1 percent...
> >
> > A thread of more than 40 posts continues here:
> > http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1860974/posts
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 3:31 pm
From: habshi@anony.net


And what oh self proclalimed Jyotish if the posts are of NO
intrest to some newsgroups eg sex abuse posts in alt.computers and
rec.arts.movies.local.indian
Will you do the decent thing and stop harrasing these ngs
with irrelevant posts ?

Please do crosspost.

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be sure to CROSSPOST the article rather
than individually post it to those groups."

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Network Working Group, Intel Corporation,
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"I remind you that cross-posting is not
spamming. With cross-posting, only a single
article is sent into each news server. With
spamming, you have many separate copies of
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newsgroups." - K. M. Taira

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: ***** VFA SCHOLAR DR SUBHASH KAK SOLVES EINSTEIN'S TWIN PARADOX *****
Jai Maharaj posts
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 4:04 pm
From: fanabba


On Dec 21, 5:25�pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> VFA Scholar Dr Subhash Kak Solves Einstein's Twin Paradox
>
> Public release date: 14-Feb-2007
>
> Contact: Subhash Kak
> k...@ece.lsu.edu
> 225-578-5552
> Louisiana State University
>
> LSU professor resolves Einstein's twin paradox
>
> BATON ROUGE -- Subhash Kak, Delaune Distinguished Professor
> of Electrical and Computer Engineering at LSU, recently
> resolved the twin paradox, known as one of the most
> enduring puzzles of modern-day physics.
>
> First suggested by Albert Einstein more than 100 years ago,
> the paradox deals with the effects of time in the context
> of travel at near the speed of light. Einstein originally
> used the example of two clocks -- one motionless, one in
> transit. He stated that, due to the laws of physics, clocks
> being transported near the speed of light would move more
> slowly than clocks that remained stationary. In more recent
> times, the paradox has been described using the analogy of
> twins. If one twin is placed on a space shuttle and travels
> near the speed of light while the remaining twin remains
> earthbound, the unmoved twin would have aged dramatically
> compared to his interstellar sibling, according to the
> paradox.
>
> "If the twin aboard the spaceship went to the nearest star,
> which is 4.45 light years away at 86 percent of the speed
> of light, when he returned, he would have aged 5 years. But
> the earthbound twin would have aged more than 10 years!"
> said Kak.
>
> The fact that time slows down on moving objects has been
> documented and verified over the years through repeated
> experimentation. But, in the previous scenario, the paradox
> is that the earthbound twin is the one who would be
> considered to be in motion -- in relation to the sibling --
> and therefore should be the one aging more slowly. Einstein
> and other scientists have attempted to resolve this problem
> before, but none of the formulas they presented proved
> satisfactory.
>
> Kak's findings were published online in the International
> Journal of Theoretical Science, and will appear in the
> upcoming print version of the publication. "I solved the
> paradox by incorporating a new principle within the
> relativity framework that defines motion not in relation to
> individual objects, such as the two twins with respect to
> each other, but in relation to distant stars," said Kak.
> Using probabilistic relationships, Kak's solution assumes
> that the universe has the same general properties no matter
> where one might be within it.
>
> The implications of this resolution will be widespread,
> generally enhancing the scientific community's
> comprehension of relativity. It may eventually even have
> some impact on quantum communications and computers,
> potentially making it possible to design more efficient and
> reliable communication systems for space applications.
>
> For more information, please contact Subhash Kak at 225-
> 578-5552 or k...@ece.lsu.edu.
>
> �###
>
> Contact: Ashley Berthelot
> LSU Media Relations
> 225-578-3870
> aber...@lsu.edu
>
> More news and information can be found on LSU's home page atwww.lsu.edu.
>
> End of forwarded press release from:
>
> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/lsu-lpr021407.php
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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Thank you Dr. Jai Maharaj Ji.
Dr. Subhash Kak has a Ph.D. from IIT Delhi.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 22 2009 12:03 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <54c5efda-4a87-4b38-a87e-ab390e7731c6@x18g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > VFA Scholar Dr Subhash Kak Solves Einstein's Twin Paradox
> >
> > Public release date: 14-Feb-2007
> >
> > Contact: Subhash Kak
> > k...@ece.lsu.edu
> > 225-578-5552
> > Louisiana State University
> >
> > LSU professor resolves Einstein's twin paradox
> >
> > BATON ROUGE -- Subhash Kak, Delaune Distinguished Professor
> > of Electrical and Computer Engineering at LSU, recently
> > resolved the twin paradox, known as one of the most
> > enduring puzzles of modern-day physics.
> >
> > First suggested by Albert Einstein more than 100 years ago,
> > the paradox deals with the effects of time in the context
> > of travel at near the speed of light. Einstein originally
> > used the example of two clocks -- one motionless, one in
> > transit. He stated that, due to the laws of physics, clocks
> > being transported near the speed of light would move more
> > slowly than clocks that remained stationary. In more recent
> > times, the paradox has been described using the analogy of
> > twins. If one twin is placed on a space shuttle and travels
> > near the speed of light while the remaining twin remains
> > earthbound, the unmoved twin would have aged dramatically
> > compared to his interstellar sibling, according to the
> > paradox.
> >
> > "If the twin aboard the spaceship went to the nearest star,
> > which is 4.45 light years away at 86 percent of the speed
> > of light, when he returned, he would have aged 5 years. But
> > the earthbound twin would have aged more than 10 years!"
> > said Kak.
> >
> > The fact that time slows down on moving objects has been
> > documented and verified over the years through repeated
> > experimentation. But, in the previous scenario, the paradox
> > is that the earthbound twin is the one who would be
> > considered to be in motion -- in relation to the sibling --
> > and therefore should be the one aging more slowly. Einstein
> > and other scientists have attempted to resolve this problem
> > before, but none of the formulas they presented proved
> > satisfactory.
> >
> > Kak's findings were published online in the International
> > Journal of Theoretical Science, and will appear in the
> > upcoming print version of the publication. "I solved the
> > paradox by incorporating a new principle within the
> > relativity framework that defines motion not in relation to
> > individual objects, such as the two twins with respect to
> > each other, but in relation to distant stars," said Kak.
> > Using probabilistic relationships, Kak's solution assumes
> > that the universe has the same general properties no matter
> > where one might be within it.
> >
> > The implications of this resolution will be widespread,
> > generally enhancing the scientific community's
> > comprehension of relativity. It may eventually even have
> > some impact on quantum communications and computers,
> > potentially making it possible to design more efficient and
> > reliable communication systems for space applications.
> >
> > For more information, please contact Subhash Kak at 225-
> > 578-5552 or k...@ece.lsu.edu.
> >
> > =EF=BF=BD###
> >
> > Contact: Ashley Berthelot
> > LSU Media Relations
> > 225-578-3870
> > aber...@lsu.edu
> >
> > More news and information can be found on LSU's home page atwww.lsu.edu.
> >
> > End of forwarded press release from:
> >
> > http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/lsu-lpr021407.php
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDo =EF=BF=BDNot for commercial use. Solely to=
> be fairly used for the educational
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> ot
> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of th=
> e
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> > fair use of copyrighted works.
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> cle.
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> d
> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with T=
> itle
> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
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> uded
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> >
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> Thank you Dr. Jai Maharaj Ji.
> Dr. Subhash Kak has a Ph.D. from IIT Delhi.

Dhanyavaad for mentioning IIT-D; I have fond memories of it. Did you attend that
or another IIT?

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: BRITS FEEL GUILTY ABOUT THEIR WEALTH [Jai Maharaj responds to harmony]
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 6:02 pm
From: "harmony"

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20091217Pe3IguW4TsEHtJOd6731v3k@UFqqC...
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> the brits feel awfully guilty about their wealth
>
> Of course they do; they looted the world -- especially Bharat -- and
> massacred millions of people in order to build their wealth.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

crazy, isn't it? but this biritish madness is totally misdirected. they now
think nothing of giving money away to muslims although it is the hindus they
need to return the loot to. and why do they have to cut the royal allowances
of their queen this late in her life on one hand and dole it all out to
whoesale baby producing muslims on the other? alla has its eyes on britain.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 11:40 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In article <4b3028ab$0$5331$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj pposted:

> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> the brits feel awfully guilty about their wealth

> > Of course they do; they looted the world -- especially Bharat -- and
> > massacred millions of people in order to build their wealth.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti

> crazy, isn't it? but this biritish madness is totally misdirected. they now
> think nothing of giving money away to muslims although it is the hindus they
> need to return the loot to. and why do they have to cut the royal allowances
> of their queen this late in her life on one hand and dole it all out to
> whoesale baby producing muslims on the other? alla has its eyes on britain.

The Brits are scared of terrorist Islam's homicide-suicide bombers so they
give them pretty much everything the want.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 10:35 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Vhristians and Muslims both have tried to corrupt the varn(n) system.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b2fc9da$0$5351$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
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> like everything else, kirastanistas mess up a good thing, specially if it is
> a hindu thing.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Upper caste and Dalit Catholics clash, police shoot and kill
> >
> > By Nirmala Carvalho
> > AsiaNews
> > Monday, March 10, 2008
> >
> > In Tamil Nadu upper caste Catholics attack Dalits,
> > destroying dozens of their homes. They are "guilty" of
> > demanding a separate parish. Police move in and fire at
> > attackers.
> >
> > Indraprasth aka New Delhi (AsiaNews) - Two Christians died
> > and many more were wounded shot by police who intervened
> > yesterday to stop clashes between Dalit Catholics and upper
> > caste Catholics in the diocese of Pondicherry-Cuddalore
> > (Tamil Nadu).
> >
> > Troubles started on 7 March when a group of Dalit
> > Christians from the Villupuram district began a hunger
> > strike to protest discrimination in a local parish by the
> > Vanniyar.
> >
> > Three months ago Dalits from St Jabamalais Annai Church in
> > Earyur built another church dedicated to Saghaya Madha (Our
> > Lady of perpetual Help) and sought to have it erected as a
> > separate parish with its own priest.
> >
> > They were backed in their demands by two political groups,
> > the Viduthalai Chiruthaigal Katchi (Vck) and Ambedkar
> > Makkal Iyakkam (AMI). The VCK even put up posters calling
> > for the closure of St Jabamalai and the recognition of the
> > new parish church.
> >
> > In response some 500 upper caste Christians went on a
> > rampage on Sunday, attacking Dalits and torching over 30
> > huts.
> >
> > Police said that when they moved in to stop the protest
> > they were pelted with stones and were thus "forced" to open
> > fire on the aggressors. M Periy Nayagam, 40, and A.
> > Magimai, 24, were killed and 40 more people were wounded.
> >
> > Fr G Cosmon Arokiaraj, secretary to the Commission for
> > Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes of the Catholic
> > Bishops' Conference of India, told AsiaNews that the
> > "confrontation in the area between Dalit and Vanniyar
> > Catholics goes back quite some time, but the Church does
> > not want to split a parish along caste line," but is
> > working towards "gradually removing discrimination against
> > the Dalits and uprooting all forms of discrimination."
> >
> > These tragic incidents show that it is urgent to ban many
> > forms of discrimination against Dalit Christians both
> > within the Christian community and especially society at
> > large. In fact "since the Christian community is perceived
> > as a single entity," he explained, "the government does not
> > recognise to Dalit Christians the same rights as other
> > Dalits."
> >
> > In the Indian caste system, states have granted specific
> > benefits and quotas in schools and public service for
> > Dalits to compensate for their secular low social standing.
> >
> > "For years Dalits have been discriminated within the Church
> > itself," he said. "They cannot sit with upper caste members
> > in the same church; they are buried in separate cemeteries;
> > they cannot use the same roads as upper caste people. When
> > the mother of a Dalit priest died in the 1990s the upper
> > caste did not allow the funeral procession to use the main
> > road; even the bishop failed to bring about a compromise."
> >
> > "In India more than 65 per cent of all Christians are
> > Dalit, but Christians represent only 2.3 per cent of a
> > population of 1.1 billion people."
> >
> > More at:
> > http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11726&size=A
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
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TOPIC: ***** SWAMI VIVEKANAND ON THE CASTE SYSTEM ***** Jai Maharaj posts
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Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 10:43 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


In response to your question about "hunter", I propose that since he
has already undergone castration, he first take an oath to belong to
the much respected hijra community.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b2fa5b5$0$5338$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
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> hindu society has had many great reformers. it is important to note that
> none of these great reformers, including the father of the indian nation
> mahatma gandhi, ever spoke against caste system. it is even more important
> to note the significance of this is much enhanced given mahatma's enormous
> effort to give a place of due respect to harijans at the hindu table despite
> resentment by many hindus. also note that this effort of mahatma came about
> much before 3m started criticism of caste system. thus, hindu society self
> corrects from time to time.
>
> if the hindus are smart tehy will rebuff any and all criticism of caste
> system from 3mc*2 and daroowalas and bidiwalas. the real question is not how
> to get rid of caste system, for that would be the end of civilization
> itself, the real question is how to introduce caste among the 3m afflicted
> white people and help them into civilization. after all mahatma when asked
> what he thought of western civilization, he had said, "that's a good idea".
> well, it is time for that idea to materialize. let caste begin among white
> people.
> shall we start with hunter?


> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Swami Vivekanand on the Caste System
> >
> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> This is an excellent article, and I am just glad it
> >> matches my views 95 pct. The higher caste does have a
> >> duty to pull others up - it is what the democrats in USA
> >> were all about in earlier days. However, there is a word
> >> in Shree Bhagavad Geeta: Patratah.
> >> A person in need of help has to prove his bonafides
> >> before he is given help. In USa that's sort of like
> >> qualifying for credit before a loan is extended. Helping
> >> someone who is ku-patra is inviting a disaster, worsening
> >> the problem.
> >
> >
> >> Subject: Re: Call to boycott fake Shankracharya
> >> From: "Pradip Gangopadhyay" <pra...@lism.usc.edu>
> >> Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2002
> >>
> >> There was some discussion about Vivekananda's attitude on
> >> caste. I have given below a complete article on caste
> >> written by Vivekananda. I have no problem if any one
> >> disagrees with Vivekananda on the subject. However, I
> >> will object if anyone calls him gross without knowing
> >> what he is saying.
> >>
> >> PG
> >>
> >> ***************************
> >>
> >> Swami Vivekananda
> >>
> >> CASTE IN SOCIETY AND NOT IN RELIGION
> >>
> >> Though our castes and our institutions are apparently
> >> linked with our religion, they are not so. These
> >> institutions have been necessary to protect us as a
> >> nation, and when this necessity for self-preservation
> >> will no more exist, they will die a natural death. In
> >> religion there is no caste. A man from the highest caste
> >> and a man from the lowest may become a monk in India and
> >> the two castes become equal. The caste system is opposed
> >> to the religion of Vedanta.
> >>
> >> Caste is a social custom, and all our great preachers
> >> have tried to break it down. From Buddhism downwards,
> >> every sect has preached against caste, and every time it
> >> has only riveted the chains. Beginning from Buddha to
> >> Rammohan Ray, everyone made the mistake of holding caste
> >> to be a religious institution and tried to pull down
> >> religion and caste altogether, and failed.
> >>
> >> In spite of all the ravings of the priests, caste is
> >> simply a crystallized social institution, which after
> >> doing its service is now filling the atmosphere of India
> >> with its stench, and it can only be removed by giving
> >> back to people their lost social individuality. Caste is
> >> simply the outgrowth of the political institutions of
> >> India; it is a hereditary trade guild. Trade competition
> >> with Europe has broken caste more than any teaching.
> >>
> >> THE UNDERLYING IDEA OF THE CASTE SYSTEM
> >>
> >> The older I grow, the better I seem to think of caste and
> >> such other time-honored institutions of India. There was
> >> a time when I used to think that many of them were
> >> useless and worthless, but the older I grow, the more I
> >> seem to feel a difference in cursing any one of them, for
> >> each one of them is the embodiment of the experience of
> >> centuries.
> >>
> >> A child of but yesterday, destined to die the day after
> >> tomorrow, comes to me and asks me to change all my plans
> >> and if I hear the advice of that baby and change all my
> >> surroundings according to his ideas I myself should be a
> >> fool, and no one else. Much of the advice that is coming
> >> to us from different countries is similar to this. Tell
> >> these wiseacres, "I will hear you when you have made a
> >> stable society yourselves. You cannot hold on to one idea
> >> for two days, you quarrel and fail; you are born like
> >> moths in the spring and die like them in five minutes.
> >>
> >> You come up like bubbles and burst like bubbles too.
> >> First form a stable society like ours. First make laws
> >> and institutions that remains undiminished in their power
> >> through scores of centuries. Then will be the time to
> >> talk on the subject with you, but till then, my friend,
> >> you are only a giddy child."
> >>
> >> Caste is a very good thing. Caste is the plan we want to
> >> follow. What caste really is, not one in a million
> >> understands. There is no country in the world without
> >> caste. Caste is based throughout on that principle. The
> >> plan in India is to make everybody Brahmana, the Brahmana
> >> being the ideal of humanity. If you read the history of
> >> India you will find that attempts have always been made
> >> to raise the lower classes. Many are the classes that
> >> have been raised. Many more will follow till the whole
> >> will become Brahmana. That is the plan.
> >>
> >> Our ideal is the Brahmana of spiritual culture and
> >> renunciation. By the Brahmana ideal what do I mean? I
> >> mean the ideal Brahmana-ness in which worldliness is
> >> altogether absent and true wisdom is abundantly present.
> >> That is the ideal of the Hindu race. Have you not heard
> >> how it is declared he, the Brahmana, is not amenable to
> >> law, that he has no law, that he is not governed by
> >> kings, and that his body cannot be hurt? That is
> >> perfectly true. Do not understand it in the light thrown
> >> upon it by interested and ignorant fools, but understand
> >> it in the light of the true and original Vedantic
> >> conception..
> >>
> >> If the Brahmana is he who has killed all selfishness and
> >> who lives to acquire and propagate wisdom and the power
> >> of love - if a country is altogether inhabited by such
> >> Brahmanas, by men and women who are spiritual and moral
> >> and good, is it strange to think of that country as being
> >> above and beyond all law? What police, what Military are
> >> necessary to govern them? Why should any one govern them
> >> at all? Why should they live under a government? They are
> >> good and noble, and they are the men of God; these are
> >> our ideal Brahmanas, and we read that in the SatyaYuga
> >> there was only one caste, and that was the Brahmana. We
> >> read in the Mahabharata that the whole world was in the
> >> beginning peopled with Brahmanas, and that as they began
> >> to degenerate they became divided into different castes,
> >> and that when the cycle turns round they will all go back
> >> to that Brahmanical origin.
> >>
> >> The son of a Brahmana is not necessarily always a
> >> Brahmana; though there is every possibility of his being
> >> one, he may not become so. The Brahmana caste and the
> >> Brahmana quality are two distinct things. As there are
> >> sattva, rajas and tamas - one or other of these gunas
> >> more or less - in every man, so the qualities which make
> >> a Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaishya or a Shudra are inherent
> >> in every man, more or less. But at time one or other of
> >> these qualities predominates in him in varying degrees
> >> and is manifested accordingly. Take a man in his
> >> different pursuits, for example : when he is engaged in
> >> serving another for pay, he is in Shudra-hood; when he is
> >> busy transacting some piece of business for profit, on
> >> his account, he is a Vaishya; when he fights to right
> >> wrongs then the qualities of a Kshatriya come out in him;
> >> and when he meditates on God, or passes his time in
> >> conversation about Him, then he is a Brahmana. Naturally,
> >> it is quite possible for one to be changed from one caste
> >> into another. Otherwise, how did Viswamitra become a
> >> Brahmana and Parashurama a Kshatriya?
> >>
> >> The means of European civilization is the sword; of the
> >> Aryans, the division into different varnas. This system
> >> of division into varnas is the stepping-stone to
> >> civilization, making one rise higher and higher in
> >> proportion to one's learning and culture. In Europe, it
> >> is everywhere victory to the strong and death to the
> >> weak. In the land of Bharata (India), every social rule
> >> is for the protection of the weak.
> >>
> >> Such is our ideal of caste, as meant for raising all
> >> humanity slowly and gently towards the realization of the
> >> great ideal of spiritual man, who is non-resisting, calm,
> >> steady, worshipful, pure and meditative. In that ideal
> >> there is God.
> >>
> >> We believe in Indian caste as one of the greatest social
> >> institutions that the Lord gave to man. We also believe
> >> that through the unavoidable defects, foreign
> >> persecutions, and above all, the monumental ignorance and
> >> pride of many Brahmanas who do not deserve the name, have
> >> thwarted in many ways, the legitimate fructification of
> >> this glorious Indian institution, it has already worked
> >> wonders for the land of Bharata and it destined to lead
> >> Indian humanity to its goal.
> >>
> >> Caste should not go; but should be readjusted
> >> occasionally. Within th e old structure is to be life
> >> enough for the building of two hundred thousand new ones.
> >> It is sheer nonsense to desire the abolition of caste.
> >>
> >> INEQUALITY OF PRIVILEGE VITIATES THE SYSTEM
> >>
> >> It is in the nature of society to form itself into
> >> groups; and what will go will be these privileges! Caste
> >> is a natural order. I can perform one duty in social
> >> life, and you another; you can govern a country, and I
> >> can mend a pair of old shoes, but that is no reason why
> >> you are greater than I, for can you mend my shoes? Can I
> >> govern the country? I am clever in mending shoes, you are
> >> clever in reading Vedas, that is no reason why you should
> >> trample on my head; why if one commits murder should he
> >> be praised and if another steals an apple why should
> >> he be hanged? This will have to go.
> >>
> >> Caste is good. That is only natural way of solving life.
> >> Men must form themselves into groups, and you cannot get
> >> rid of that. Wherever you go there will be caste. But
> >> that does not mean that there should be these privileges.
> >> They should be knocked on the head. If you teach Vedanta
> >> to the fisherman, he will say, "I am as good a man as
> >> you, I am a fisherman, you are a philosopher, but I have
> >> the same God in me, as you have in you." And that is what
> >> we want, no privilege for anyone, equal chances for all;
> >> let everyone be taught that the Divine is within, and
> >> everyone will work out his own salvation. The days of
> >> exclusive privileges and exclusive claims are gone, gone
> >> for ever from the soil of India.
> >>
> >> UNTOUCHABILITY - A SUPERSTITIOUS ACCRETION
> >>
> >> Formerly the characteristic of the noble-minded was -
> >> (tribhuvanamupakara shrenibhih priyamanah) "to please the
> >> whole universe by one's numerous acts of service", but
> >> now it is - I am pure and the whole world is impure.
> >> "Don't touch me!" "Don't touch me!" The whole world is
> >> impure, and I alone am pure! Lucid Brahmajnana! Bravo!
> >> Great God! Nowadays, Brahman is neither in the recesses
> >> of the heart, nor in the highest heaven, nor in all
> >> beings - now He is in the cooking pot!
> >>
> >> We are orthodox Hindus, but we refuse entirely to
> >> identify ourselves with "Don't- touchism". That is not
> >> Hinduism; it is in none of our books; it is an orthodox
> >> superstition, which has interfered with national
> >> efficiency all along the line. Religion has entered in
> >> the cooking pot. The present religion of the Hindus is
> >> neither the path of Knowledge or Reason - it is "Don't-
> >> touchism". - "Don't touch me", "Don't touch me" - that
> >> exhausts its description.
> >>
> >> "Don't touchism" is a form of mental disease. Beware! All
> >> expansion is life, all contraction is death. All love is
> >> expansion, all selfishness is contraction. Love is
> >> therefore the only law of life. See that you do not lose
> >> your lives in this dire irreligion of "Don't- touchism".
> >> Must the teaching (Atmavat sarvabhuteshu) - "Looking upon
> >> all beings as your own self" - be confined to books
> >> alone? How will they grant salvation who cannot feed a
> >> hungry mouth with a crumb of bread? How will those, who
> >> become impure at the mere breath of others, purify
> >> others?
> >>
> >> We must cease to tyrannize. To what a ludicrous state are
> >> we brought! If a bhangi comes to anybody as a bhangi, he
> >> would be shunned as the plague; but no sooner does he get
> >> a cupful of water poured upon his head with some
> >> muttering of prayers by a padri, and get a coat to his
> >> back, no matter how threadbare, and come into the room of
> >> the most orthodox Hindu, I don't see the man who then
> >> dare refuse him a chair and a hearty shake of hands!
> >> Irony can go no farther.
> >>
> >> Just see, for want of sympathy from the Hindus, thousands
> >> of pariahs in Madras are turning Christians. Don't think
> >> that this is simply due to the pinch of hunger; it is
> >> because they do not get any sympathy from us. We are day
> >> and night calling out to them "Don't touch us! Don't
> >> touch us!" Is there any compassion or kindliness of heart
> >> in the country? Only a class of "Don't-touchists" ; kick
> >> such customs out! I sometimes feel the urge to break the
> >> barriers of "Don't-touchism", go at once and call out,
> >> "Come all who are poor, miserable, wretched and
> >> downtrodden", and to bring them all together. Unless they
> >> rise, the Mother will not awake.
> >>
> >> Each Hindu, I say, is a brother to every other, and it is
> >> we, who have degraded them by our outcry, "Don't touch",
> >> "Don't touch!" And so the whole country has been plunged
> >> to the utmost depths of meanness, cowardice and
> >> ignorance. These men have to be lifted; words of hope and
> >> faith have to be proclaimed to them. We have to tell
> >> them, "You are also men like us and you have all the
> >> rights that we have."
> >>
> >> SOLUTION OF THE CASTE PROBLEM
> >>
> >> Our solution of the caste question is not degrading those
> >> who are already high up, is not running amuck through
> >> food and drink, is not jumping out of our own limits in
> >> order to have more enjoyment, but it comes by every one
> >> of us fulfilling the dictates of our Vedantic religion,
> >> by our attaining spirituality and by our becoming ideal
> >> Brahmana. There is a law laid on each one of you in this
> >> land by your ancestors, whether you are Aryans, or non-
> >> Aryans, rishis or Brahmanas or the very lowest outcaste.
> >> The command is the same to you all, that you must make
> >> progress without stopping, and that from the highest man
> >> to the lowest pariah, every one in this country has to
> >> try and become the ideal Brahmana. This Vedantic idea is
> >> applicable not only here but over the whole world.
> >>
> >> The Brahmana-hood is the ideal of humanity in India as
> >> wonderfully put forward by Shankaracharya at the
> >> beginning of his commentary on the Gita, where he speaks
> >> about the reason for Krishna's coming as a preacher for
> >> the preservation of Brahmana-hood, of Brahmana-ness. That
> >> was the great end. This Brahmana, the man of God, he who
> >> has known Brahman, the ideal man, the perfect man, must
> >> remain, he must not go. And with all the defects of the
> >> caste now, we know that we must all be ready to give to
> >> the Brahmanas this credit, that from them have come more
> >> men with real Brahmana-ness in them than from all the
> >> other castes. We must be bold enough, must be brave
> >> enough to speak their defects, but at the same time we
> >> must give credit that is due to them.
> >>
> >> Therefore, it is no use fighting among the castes. What
> >> good will it do? It will divide us all the more, weaken
> >> us all the more, degrade us all the more. The solution is
> >> not by bringing down the higher, but by raising the lower
> >> up to the level of the higher. And that is the line of
> >> work that is found in all our books, in spite of what you
> >> may hear from some people whose knowledge of their own
> >> Scriptures and whose capacity to understand the mighty
> >> plans of the ancients are only zero. What is the plan?
> >> The ideal at the one end is the Brahmana and the ideal at
> >> the other end is the chandala, and the whole work is to
> >> raise the chandala up to the Brahmana. Slowly and slowly
> >> you will find more and more privileges granted to them.
> >>
> >> I regret that in modern times there should be so much
> >> discussion between the castes. This must stop. It is
> >> useless on both sides, especially on the side of the
> >> higher caste, the Brahmana, the day for these privileges
> >> and exclusive claims is gone. The duty of every
> >> aristocracy is to dig its own grave, and the sooner it
> >> does so, the better. The more he delays, the more it will
> >> fester and the worse death it will die. It is the duty of
> >> the Brahmana, therefore, to work for the salvation of the
> >> rest of mankind, in India. If he does that and so long as
> >> he does that, he is a Brahmana.
> >>
> >> Any one who claims to be a Brahmana, then, should prove
> >> his pretensions, first by manifesting that spirituality,
> >> and next by raising others to the same status. We
> >> earnestly entreat the Brahmanas not to forget the ideal
> >> of India - the production of a universe of Brahmanas,
> >> pure as purity, good as God Himself : this was at the
> >> beginning, says the Mahabharata and so will it be in the
> >> end.
> >>
> >> It seems that most of the Brahmanas are only nursing a
> >> false pride of birth; and any schemer, native or foreign,
> >> who can pander to this vanity and inherent laziness, by
> >> fulsome sophistry, appears to satisfy more.
> >>
> >> Beware Brahmanas, this is the sign of death! Arise and
> >> show your manhood, your Brahmana-hood, by raising the
> >> non-Brahmanas around you - not in the spirit of a master
> >> - not with the rotten canker of egoism crawling with
> >> superstitions and charlatanry of East and West - but in
> >> the spirit of a servant. To the Brahmanas I appeal, that
> >> they must work hard to raise the Indian people by
> >> teaching them what they know, by giving out the culture
> >> that they have accumulated for centuries. It is clearly
> >> the duty of the Brahmanas of India to remember what real
> >> Brahmana-hood is. As Manu says, all these privileges and
> >> honors are given to the Brahmana because, "with him is
> >> the treasury of virtue". He must open that treasury and
> >> distribute to the world.
> >>
> >> It is true that he was the earliest preacher to the
> >> Indian races, he was the first to renounce everything in
> >> order to attain to the higher realization of life, before
> >> others could reach to the idea. It was not his fault that
> >> he marched ahead of the other castes. Why did not the
> >> other castes so understand and do as they did? Why did
> >> they sit down and be lazy, and let the Brahmanas win the
> >> race?
> >>
> >> But it is one thing to gain an advantage, and another
> >> thing to preserve it for evil use. Whenever power is used
> >> for evil it becomes diabolical; it must be used for good
> >> only. So this accumulated culture of ages of which the
> >> Brahmana has been the trustee, he must now give to the
> >> people, and it was because he did not open this treasury
> >> to the people, that the Muslim invasion was possible. It
> >> was because he did not open this treasury to the people
> >> from the beginning, that for a thousand years we have
> >> been trodden under the heels of everyone who chose to
> >> come to India; it was through that we have become
> >> degraded, and the first task must be to break open the
> >> cells that hide the wonderful treasures which our common
> >> ancestors accumulated; bring them out, and give them to
> >> everybody, and the Brahmana must be the first to do it.
> >> There is an old superstition in Bengal that if the cobra
> >> that bites, sucks out his own poison from the patient,
> >> the man must survive. Well then, the Brahmana must suck
> >> out his own poison.
> >>
> >> To the non-Brahmana castes I say, wait, be not in a
> >> hurry. Do not seize every opportunity of fighting the
> >> Brahmana, because as I have shown; you are suffering from
> >> your own fault. Who told you to neglect spirituality and
> >> Sanskrit learning? What have you been doing all this
> >> time? Why have you been indifferent? Why do you now fret
> >> and fume because somebody else had more brains, more
> >> energy, more pluck and go than you? Instead of wasting
> >> your energies in vain discussions and quarrels in the
> >> newspapers, instead of fighting and quarreling in your
> >> own homes - which is sinful - use all your energies in
> >> acquiring the culture which the Brahmana has, and the
> >> thing is done. Why do you not become Sanskrit scholars?
> >> Why do you not spend millions to bring Sanskrit education
> >> to all the castes of India? That is the question. The
> >> moment you do these things, you are equal to the
> >> Brahmana! That is the secret power in India.
> >>
> >> The only safety, I tell you men who belong to the lower
> >> castes, the only way to raise your condition is to study
> >> Sanskrit, and this fighting and writing and frothing
> >> against the higher castes is in vain, it does no good,
> >> and it creates fight and quarrel, and this race,
> >> unfortunately already divided, is going to be divided
> >> more and more. The only way to bring about the leveling
> >> of castes is to appropriate the culture, the education
> >> which is the strength of the higher castes.
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > End of forwarded messages
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
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