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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:19 am
From: fanabba
On Apr 28, 9:30 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
>
> Excerpt begins:
>
> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>
> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
> moi."
>
> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>
> End of excerpt from:
>
> http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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Dhanyavaad ! From Buddhism to Islam !
That is how far the majority of Bengalees have "progressed" !
Ambedkar has said that Islam destroyed Buddhism in the Northwest and
East of the Indian subcontinent !!
Bengalees say they dumped Buddhism because it was "impractical". Islam
is "practical" indeed !
== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:41 am
From: hari-kumar@indeero.com
Why does jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. have a burning face of shame and
humiliation?
The person of the subject line once bought jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc.
for his wholly invented web image.
That person sought help for a charity project in india.
But soon he realized that as other real indians come soon to know, jay
stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is a fraud.
He is an american and not indian in the least nor are any of his lies
about being raised in india true except in his imagination and his
desire to decieve.
Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. was so happy to have pulled in some
attention from a real indian he almost wept.
But soon tears of joy turned to tears of shame and humilation when the
person dismissed jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. for being a fraud.
Ever since jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. has been web stalking that
person, even to writing libel and slander about that person's wife.
Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. consistant with his fraud reveals his high
moral level and enlightenment.
We can all take pity on his red burning face of shame and humilation.
== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 11:00 am
From: "harmony"
"fanabba" <fanabba@aol.com> wrote in message
news:bffd2e9c-bc5b-477e-94b5-c979224e5339@e1g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 28, 9:30 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim
> influence
>
> Excerpt begins:
>
> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>
> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
> moi."
>
> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>
> End of excerpt from:
>
> http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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> not
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Dhanyavaad ! From Buddhism to Islam !
That is how far the majority of Bengalees have "progressed" !
Ambedkar has said that Islam destroyed Buddhism in the Northwest and
East of the Indian subcontinent !!
Bengalees say they dumped Buddhism because it was "impractical". Islam
is "practical" indeed !
--------------
arindam's theory is that some arab traders convinced bengalis hindus to
convert to mummudism.
ever since then, the bengalis are shopping for a brooklyn bridge. arindam is
putting in a bid for a certain oil rig offshore lousiana along with mummud
dixit and some kerals.
== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 3:24 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee
All that jBm manages to show is that he is a really great fool, as he
screams that I am a "commie". Still, to give him his due, he has not
interpolated what I wrote.
On Apr 28, 11:30 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
>
> Excerpt begins:
>
> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>
> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
> moi."
>
> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>
> End of excerpt from:
>
> http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
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> fair use of copyrighted works.
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== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 3:45 pm
From: "Me, ...again!"
Hello Arindam,
More than a great fool, Jai Maharaj (aka Jay Stevens) makes every mistake
in rhetoric, logic, fairness all in the name of demagogery, demonization,
character assassination, ad hominems, taking material out of context,
misrepresenting history, innuendo, propaganda, hype, hoopla, and
hucksterism. His purpose is destructive, inflamatory, and manipulative.
I find it amazing that he makes a big deal out of what you wrote which
seemed to me to be a general matter-of-fact overview of the West Bengal
culture and life. Communism? What the hell, all of India (and China, and
most/most of SE Asia and Russia) was more communist a few decades ago so
if you were born there, you had little choice but to grow up under it.
He pulls off this same crap on me, too, so don't feel like you are alone.
So, just a little earlier, I posted _MY_ interpretation of one of his very
recent posts. You may look for it on s.c.i (plus a.f.j-m, and others).
I had a great lunch today with friends.
/////////////////////////////
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> All that jBm manages to show is that he is a really great fool, as he
> screams that I am a "commie". Still, to give him his due, he has not
> interpolated what I wrote.
>
> On Apr 28, 11:30 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
>>
>> Excerpt begins:
>>
>> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
>> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
>> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
>> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
>> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
>> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
>> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
>> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
>> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
>> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
>> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>>
>> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
>> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
>> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
>> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
>> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
>> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
>> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
>> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
>> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
>> moi."
>>
>> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>>
>> End of excerpt from:
>>
>> http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>>
>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
>> fair use of copyrighted works.
>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
>> considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current
>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are
>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article.
>>
>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
>> which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright
>> owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the
>> understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
>> democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
>> provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title
>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
>> profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included
>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by
>> subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information
>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of
>> your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
>> copyright owner.
>>
>> Since newsgroup posts are being removed
>> by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
>> this post may be reposted several times.
>
>
== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 3:46 pm
From: "Me, ...again!"
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 hari-kumar@indeero.com wrote:
> Why does jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. have a burning face of shame and
> humiliation?
>
> The person of the subject line once bought jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc.
> for his wholly invented web image.
>
> That person sought help for a charity project in india.
>
> But soon he realized that as other real indians come soon to know, jay
> stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is a fraud.
>
> He is an american and not indian in the least nor are any of his lies
> about being raised in india true except in his imagination and his
> desire to decieve.
>
> Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. was so happy to have pulled in some
> attention from a real indian he almost wept.
>
> But soon tears of joy turned to tears of shame and humilation when the
> person dismissed jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. for being a fraud.
>
> Ever since jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. has been web stalking that
> person, even to writing libel and slander about that person's wife.
>
> Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. consistant with his fraud reveals his high
> moral level and enlightenment.
>
> We can all take pity on his red burning face of shame and humilation.
>
Jai Maharaj, a Foreign Agent in USA?...was: MOLE IN OUR MISSION
Mr. Maharaj posted the message (w/headers) quoted below with the above
original subject line (capitals only). This is a serious post with a
serious subject line. The word "mole" means spy, and "our mission" conjures
up these questions: i) who is "our"?, and ii) what us the "mission"? The
whole content of the post (see quote below) is of very deep details dealing
with the concern with politics in and the future of India.
Mr. Maharaj (aka Jay Stevens) has claimed he was born in India and claims
to follow Hinduism despite the fact that--from many posts in the past--many
real Hindus and real Indians do not accept Mr. Maharaj as a real Indian or a
real Hindu. The reader is referred to many FAQs and the archives to get
the details on why this is, but a point brought up repeatedly is that he
is living in the USA (Hawaii) and has lived here for a long time and is,
thus, an American. I would claim that if he was born in India, then he is
not a real American (while many Hindus do not recognize him as a real
Hindu), either. In addition, there is the identity confusion with "aka Jay
Stevens" (posters, and FAQs, from long ago say that Jai Maharaj is really
Jay Stevens. Mr. Maharaj puts the "Dr." title in front of his name, but
has never satisfied anyone's questions about the details and history of
this title. Mr. Maharaj claims he is an astrologer, or Vedic astrologer,
which does not place him in a highly respectable occupation. Mr. Maharaj
has never explicitly given details about his status in the USA (legal,
illegal, pending, greencard, visa, etc) but is surely at least an alien.
Considering that people who live in a country for a long time are
naturally obligated to show alegiance to that country (because they are
enjoying and benefitting from living there), it strikes me as curious that
Mr. Maharaj seems to be more deeply concerned with very serious details
in India and thus indicating that his real alegiance is towards India and
not the USA, where he lives and has lived for quite some time. This raises
the speculation that Mr. Maharaj may be a Foreign Agent in the USA whose
purpose is not to engage "...the pursuit of life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness" and show alegiance to the USA, but some purpose or
purposes involving the use of the USA as a "base" for ulterior benefit to
entities and forces in India.
Mr. Maharaj has not given an explanation for his motivations and actions,
but when he puts the word "mole" and the words "our mission," he is
implying that he "belongs to" that particulaar "our mission" and that
means he is pro-India-anti-American.
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Subject: MOLE IN OUR MISSION
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Mole in our mission
Madhuri Gupta, arrested for spying in the Indian mission in
Islamabad, could have planted transmitting devices and tapped
telephones, writes B Raman
Op-Ed
The Pioneer
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
Madhuri Gupta, Second Secretary in the Press and Information wing of
the Indian High Commission in Islamabad, has been arrested on the
charge of working for a foreign intelligence agency. She was called
to New Delhi ostensibly on consultation duty in connection with the
SAARC summit opening in Thimpu on April 29 and taken into custody
after her arrival.
Apparently, she was not aware that she was under suspicion. If she
was, she might not have come to New Delhi. Instead, she might have
fled to some other country to escape arrest and interrogation as
Major Rabinder Singh, an alleged mole of the Research & Analysis
Wing, did in 2004.
It has been reported that Home Secretary GK Pillai, has confirmed her
arrest. He has not given any other details. There are two
possibilities -- she was either working for Pakistan's Inter-Services
Intelligence or for the intelligence agency of a Western country
through its intelligence officer working under the cover of a
diplomat in Pakistan. I would not rule out the second possibility.
Western intelligence agencies, particularly the Central Intelligence
Agency, had in the past tried to recruit Indian diplomats posted in
Indian missions abroad through blackmail or offer of money or offer
of resident status in their country. Gupta is reported to be an
unmarried woman in her 40s.
The ISI normally uses money or blackmail for recruiting Indian
diplomats posted in Pakistan. In the 1980s, when Rajiv Gandhi was the
Prime Minister, the ISI had allegedly recruited a senior Indian armed
forces attaché by trapping him with the help of an attractive woman
in Karachi and then blackmailing him with her help. He was called
back to India under some pretext and removed from the armed forces.
He was not prosecuted.
If the allegations against her are correct, Gupta might have been
recruited by the agency which was using her either as an information
agent or as a service agent. An information agent consciously
supplies intelligence to which he or she has access. A service agent
facilitates an intelligence operation of the recruiting agency in
various ways.
As a Second Secretary in the Press and Information wing, Gupta might
not have had much access to sensitive intelligence. But, as she was
working in the High Commission, she would have had access to various
offices in the Indian High Commission for performing furtive tasks
such as planting bugs in the offices of the High Commissioner and
other diplomats, attaching transmitting devices for passing on the
telephone conversations of the High Commissioner and others to the
officer who recruited her, etc.
If she had been working as a service agent, she would have caused
immeasurable damage by enabling the agency that recruited her to
collect electronically a lot of sensitive intelligence. It would
never be possible to quantify and assess the extent of damage caused
by her. She herself would not know since she would be unaware what
kind of intelligence had been going on to her controlling officer
through the gadgets which she had planted in the Indian High
Commission on his direction.
In the 1970s, a British woman was recruited by the Indian Embassy in
Paris to work as a telephone operator. She had helped the MI-6, the
British intelligence service, in clandestinely recording the
telephone conversations of all Indian diplomats posted in Paris. She
had caused considerable damage before she was detected and sacked.
- The writer, a former senior official with R&AW, is a noted
security expert.
html://dailypioneer.com/252153/Mole-in-our-mission.html
More at:
http://www.dailypioneer.com
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Previously:
Madhuri Gupta worked with ICWA, was keen to go to Pakistan
IANS
Sify
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
Madhuri Gupta, the junior Indian diplomat who was arrested here on
charges of spying for Pakistan's ISI, worked with the Indian Council
of World Affairs (ICWA), a foreign policy think tank, before she was
posted at the Indian high commission in Islamabad.
She worked here in 2006-2007 as assistant director, an official at
the ICWA, better known as Sapru House, told IANS.
Sources told IANS that she specialized in Urdu and was very keen to
go to Pakistan, suggesting that she may have had cross-border links
for some time.
Gupta, who served as second secretary at the Indian High Commission
in Islamabad, was arrested from her home here on the charges of
spying for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), police and official
sources told IANS.
'The accused Madhuri Gupta was arrested from her house in east Delhi
by Delhi Police's Special Cell on charges of spying and leaking some
important documents. Before the arrest, she was detained and
questioned for 2-3 days,' a police source told IANS.
'She was serving in press and information wing of the Indian High
Commission in Pakistan for the last couple of years. Her movements
were being followed from past several months,' he said.
'The woman was produced in the court Monday after which she was sent
to police custody,' the source added, saying that an official
statement on the arrest would probably come from the external affairs
ministry.
'We do not deny the report. But this is beyond the purview of the
home ministry,' G.K. Pillai, home secretary, told Times Now channel.
Other sources said Gupta had been under the scanner for some time and
the action was taken after it was confirmed that she was passing
sensitive information to her handlers.
Gupta was not a member of the main Indian Foreign Service (IFS), but
belonged to the lower cadre known as IFS-B.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
India busts Pak spy ring, lady MEA officer held
Rediff
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 at 15:48 hours IST
A Second Secretary-level woman diplomat working in the Indian High
Commission in Islamabad has been arrested in New Delhi for allegedly
passing on information to Pakistani intelligence agencies.
A promotee officer of Ministry of External Affairs, 53-year-old
Madhuri Gupta, was arrested here four days back after she was
summoned to Delhi on the pretext of discussions on the current SAARC
summit meeting held in Thimpu, Bhutan, the sources said.
Sources in the Indian Intelligence Bureau told rediff.com that Gupta,
who was working in the press wing of the Indian High Commission in
Pakistan, was passing on sensitive information to Pakistani
intelligence agencies for kickbacks.
Although she was not privy to anything political, as her wing was in
no way connected to the political wing, Gupta was the liasoning
officer between the Indian and other embassies in Pakistan. She will
now remain in 10 days police custody where she will be interrogated
by the police for more information.
The IB says that the nature of her job did not give her access to
extremely sensitive information. There is surely no vital information
that has been leaked out. However, it is still being viewed as an
offence.
The IB further points out that her interrogation will lead them up to
more such persons.
It is not possible to carry out such an operation single handedly and
we are quite confident that she had more persons along with her who
conducted similar operations, IB sources said.
Pakistan has many such persons on its payroll and Gupta will be able
to tell us about them, they added.
Gupta has been with the Indian government since the past 30 years.
She had served in New Delhi prior to being transferred to Nepal and
later to Pakistan.
The IB says that they have been on her trail for nearly 8 months.
Sources say that she had a clean record until two years back when she
was approached by the Pakistan agencies to work for them and pass on
information relating to the Indian government.
Gupta, who has been booked under the provisions of the Official
Secrets Act, will now be grilled by a team of the Research and
Analysis Wing, Indian Intelligence Bureau and also the East Delhi
police (the part of Delhi that she hails from).
Simultaneously, the station head of Research and Analysis Wing (RAW)
in Islamabad R K Sharma has also come under the scanner, official
sources said.
The sources said Gupta, a spinster, is alleged to have been taking
information from the RAW station head in Islamabad, which was passed
to the Pakistani spy agencies.
The sources said that the role of Sharma had also come under scanner
for allegedly abusing his position and passing information to Gupta.
Additional Inputs: PTI
Tags: Madhuri Gupta, Research and Analysis Wing, IB, Sharma, Indian
Intelligence Bureau
More at:
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/apr/27/lady-indian-diplomat-caught-spying
-for-pak-report.htm
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 3:59 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee
Dear Straydog,
The real question is, why isn't this fraud behind bars? He breaks
every rule in Usenet. He must have strong protection somewhere.
If there aren't laws existing to put these sorts behind bars, or
asylums, they should be made. Usenet is a very public technology, and
can be used for many productive purposes. Spammers, liars and abusers
like the jBm have no place here.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
On Apr 29, 8:45 am, "Me, ...again!" <arthu...@mv.com> wrote:
> Hello Arindam,
>
> More than a great fool, Jai Maharaj (aka Jay Stevens) makes every mistake
> in rhetoric, logic, fairness all in the name of demagogery, demonization,
> character assassination, ad hominems, taking material out of context,
> misrepresenting history, innuendo, propaganda, hype, hoopla, and
> hucksterism. His purpose is destructive, inflamatory, and manipulative.
>
> I find it amazing that he makes a big deal out of what you wrote which
> seemed to me to be a general matter-of-fact overview of the West Bengal
> culture and life. Communism? What the hell, all of India (and China, and
> most/most of SE Asia and Russia) was more communist a few decades ago so
> if you were born there, you had little choice but to grow up under it.
>
> He pulls off this same crap on me, too, so don't feel like you are alone.
>
> So, just a little earlier, I posted _MY_ interpretation of one of his very
> recent posts. You may look for it on s.c.i (plus a.f.j-m, and others).
>
> I had a great lunch today with friends.
>
> /////////////////////////////
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > All that jBm manages to show is that he is a really great fool, as he
> > screams that I am a "commie". Still, to give him his due, he has not
> > interpolated what I wrote.
>
> > On Apr 28, 11:30 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
>
> >> Excerpt begins:
>
> >> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
> >> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
> >> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
> >> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
> >> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
> >> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
> >> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
> >> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
> >> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
> >> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
> >> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>
> >> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
> >> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
> >> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
> >> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
> >> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
> >> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
> >> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
> >> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
> >> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
> >> moi."
>
> >> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>
> >> End of excerpt from:
>
> >>http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>
> >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> Om Shanti
>
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== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 6:31 pm
From: "Me, ...again!"
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Dear Straydog,
> The real question is, why isn't this fraud behind bars? He breaks
> every rule in Usenet.
There are no "rules" in NGs, just "netiquette" and these days that is
gone, too.
However, why don't you write down the "rules" he breaks, and we can work
together on this. I'm serious.
> He must have strong protection somewhere.
Part of it is "freedom of speech." FoS is nice, but he abuses it, too.
The rest is his gestapo intimidation process.
> If there aren't laws existing to put these sorts behind bars, or
> asylums, they should be made.
It's pretty hard to sue for lies unless the lies can be translated into
dollar sign values. After all, you can find a lot of lies in the media,
too. Just ask any Republican and he will say he tells the truth, its the
Democrats that lie. Then ask a Democrat....get same answer: its the
Republicans that lie.
Usenet is a very public technology, and
> can be used for many productive purposes. Spammers, liars and abusers
> like the jBm have no place here.
Well, I agree with you on that.
/////////////////////////
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Apr 29, 8:45 am, "Me, ...again!" <arthu...@mv.com> wrote:
>> Hello Arindam,
>>
>> More than a great fool, Jai Maharaj (aka Jay Stevens) makes every mistake
>> in rhetoric, logic, fairness all in the name of demagogery, demonization,
>> character assassination, ad hominems, taking material out of context,
>> misrepresenting history, innuendo, propaganda, hype, hoopla, and
>> hucksterism. His purpose is destructive, inflamatory, and manipulative.
>>
>> I find it amazing that he makes a big deal out of what you wrote which
>> seemed to me to be a general matter-of-fact overview of the West Bengal
>> culture and life. Communism? What the hell, all of India (and China, and
>> most/most of SE Asia and Russia) was more communist a few decades ago so
>> if you were born there, you had little choice but to grow up under it.
>>
>> He pulls off this same crap on me, too, so don't feel like you are alone.
>>
>> So, just a little earlier, I posted _MY_ interpretation of one of his very
>> recent posts. You may look for it on s.c.i (plus a.f.j-m, and others).
>>
>> I had a great lunch today with friends.
>>
>> /////////////////////////////
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> All that jBm manages to show is that he is a really great fool, as he
>>> screams that I am a "commie". Still, to give him his due, he has not
>>> interpolated what I wrote.
>>
>>> On Apr 28, 11:30 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>>> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
>>
>>>> Excerpt begins:
>>
>>>> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
>>>> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
>>>> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
>>>> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
>>>> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
>>>> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
>>>> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
>>>> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
>>>> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
>>>> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
>>>> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>>
>>>> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
>>>> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
>>>> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
>>>> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
>>>> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
>>>> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
>>>> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
>>>> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
>>>> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
>>>> moi."
>>
>>>> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>>
>>>> End of excerpt from:
>>
>>>> http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>>
>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>> Om Shanti
>>
>>>> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
>>>> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
>>>> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
>>>> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
>>>> fair use of copyrighted works.
>>>> o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
>>>> considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current
>>>> e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
>>>> o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are
>>>> not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article.
>>
>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
>>>> which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright
>>>> owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the
>>>> understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
>>>> democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
>>>> that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
>>>> provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title
>>>> 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
>>>> profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included
>>>> information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by
>>>> subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information
>>>> go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
>>>> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of
>>>> your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
>>>> copyright owner.
>>
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>>
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>
>
== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:24 pm
From: Arindam Banerjee
On Apr 29, 11:31 am, "Me, ...again!" <arthu...@mv.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > Dear Straydog,
> > The real question is, why isn't this fraud behind bars? He breaks
> > every rule in Usenet.
>
> There are no "rules" in NGs, just "netiquette" and these days that is
> gone, too.
>
> However, why don't you write down the "rules" he breaks, and we can work
> together on this. I'm serious.
When I joined Usenet, I had to agree to certain rules as a
precondition, so far as the ISP was giving me the service. No
spamming, no excessive posting, no breach of IP like the cut and
pastes jBm does, no posting material you have not written save within
accepted limits of propriety, etc. In other words, these were quasi-
legal requirements demanded by the ISP all of us have to obey. Now
this jBm has been breaking these rules flagrantly, over years and
years.
> > He must have strong protection somewhere.
>
> Part of it is "freedom of speech." FoS is nice, but he abuses it, too.
His ISP is very blind. I am sure many must have complained. It is
not his freedom of speech, but abuse of speech. Massive posting of
irrelevant material, deliberate provocation, character assassination,
lies and intimidation - these do not amount to freedom of speech.
Especially when he targets well-known and open individuals, who do not
hide under fake names, such as ourselves. It is simply intolerable
that these cowards attack those with a reputation. Had he been
anything worth suing, I would have dragged him to the courts for
defamation.
>
> The rest is his gestapo intimidation process.
>
> > If there aren't laws existing to put these sorts behind bars, or
> > asylums, they should be made.
>
> It's pretty hard to sue for lies unless the lies can be translated into
> dollar sign values. After all, you can find a lot of lies in the media,
> too. Just ask any Republican and he will say he tells the truth, its the
> Democrats that lie. Then ask a Democrat....get same answer: its the
> Republicans that lie.
Well, in my case, he has been saying I got my engineering degree
fraudulently, and that I am a communist. These are damned lies, made
with a view to demean me and my work in the eyes of a gullible
public. He loudly tells these lies, and when I retaliate, he picks
out some expressions from them and then loudly says that I am abusive.
As if self-defense was the same as being abusive! Since the jBm is a
shadowy entity, he cannot be caught easily. But the US authorities
should do something about this. This guy is seriously bad for the
image of Hindus, as he misrepresents Hinduism. Hinduism does not need
the "support" of shadowy criminal entities as this jBm.
>
> Usenet is a very public technology, and
>
> > can be used for many productive purposes. Spammers, liars and abusers
> > like the jBm have no place here.
>
> Well, I agree with you on that.
>
> /////////////////////////
>
>
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> > On Apr 29, 8:45 am, "Me, ...again!" <arthu...@mv.com> wrote:
> >> Hello Arindam,
>
> >> More than a great fool, Jai Maharaj (aka Jay Stevens) makes every mistake
> >> in rhetoric, logic, fairness all in the name of demagogery, demonization,
> >> character assassination, ad hominems, taking material out of context,
> >> misrepresenting history, innuendo, propaganda, hype, hoopla, and
> >> hucksterism. His purpose is destructive, inflamatory, and manipulative.
>
> >> I find it amazing that he makes a big deal out of what you wrote which
> >> seemed to me to be a general matter-of-fact overview of the West Bengal
> >> culture and life. Communism? What the hell, all of India (and China, and
> >> most/most of SE Asia and Russia) was more communist a few decades ago so
> >> if you were born there, you had little choice but to grow up under it.
>
> >> He pulls off this same crap on me, too, so don't feel like you are alone.
>
> >> So, just a little earlier, I posted _MY_ interpretation of one of his very
> >> recent posts. You may look for it on s.c.i (plus a.f.j-m, and others).
>
> >> I had a great lunch today with friends.
>
> >> /////////////////////////////
>
> >> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> All that jBm manages to show is that he is a really great fool, as he
> >>> screams that I am a "commie". Still, to give him his due, he has not
> >>> interpolated what I wrote.
>
> >>> On Apr 28, 11:30 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> >>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >>>> In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
>
> >>>> Excerpt begins:
>
> >>>> "W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
> >>>> Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
> >>>> various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
> >>>> decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
> >>>> somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
> >>>> (supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
> >>>> the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
> >>>> everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
> >>>> Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
> >>>> Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
> >>>> some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
>
> >>>> "In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
> >>>> long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
> >>>> by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
> >>>> alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
> >>>> Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
> >>>> so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
> >>>> elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
> >>>> India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
> >>>> still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
> >>>> moi."
>
> >>>> - Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
>
> >>>> End of excerpt from:
>
> >>>>http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-i...
>
> >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >>>> Om Shanti
>
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== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:34 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
In his own words, Arindam Banerjee's communist-plus education and Muslim influence
Excerpt begins:
"W. Bengal is atheist and communist, and most people in W. Bengal and
Bangladesh who speak Bengali are Muslims. So, anti-Hinduism (to
various degrees) is something institutional there, and has been for
decades. It was under British rule that Hindu culture flourished
somewhat, but after the mid sixties with the rise of Communism
(supported by the poor refugees from East Bengal, and that caused by
the evil national politicians who bungled the partition issues)
everything Hindu in WB went downhill. I was lucky to be brought up in
Bihar, where I had proper animistic/Hindu/Hindi/Sanskrit/Jesuit/
Communist/English/Scientific education influenced by the company of
some Muslim friends and teachers, and now I am living in Melbourne!
"In the historic sense, Bengal has been Buddhist-Islamic for a very
long time. Many people took up a peaceful form of Islam, propagated
by Arab traders, from the tenth century, as an addition or
alternative to animism or Buddhism. So when Iktiyar ud din Bakhtiyar
Khalji landed up around 1200, he found the population to be Islamic
so he did not carry out the mass slaughters as was the custom
elsewhere in India. So Bengal and Kerala are a few of those places in
India were spared the evil of invasion, and genuine Hindu culture
still remains there among certain minority groups, that includes
moi."
- Arindam Banerjee January 16th, 2009 5:29 pm
End of excerpt from:
http://jaibihar.com/pakistan-bangladesh-plan-a-mughalistan-to-split-india/20092246.html
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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TOPIC: thank you, mother's love
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 8:04 pm
From: jane song
Mother's Love
A Mother's love, is sure to find
A way to comfort, ease your mind
She knows just how, to build you up
When you're so down, and can't look up
You love the way, she makes you feel
Like you're so special, her ideal
Her thought must start, with God above
To bring such caring, with such love
And as it flows, like gentle rain
It surely helps, when troubles pain
God bless these special mothers,
God bless you every one...
for all the tears and heartache,
and for the special work you've done.
Be thankful for our mothers,
for your love with a higher love...
from the power God has given,
and the strength from up above.
I am grateful for you, my mum! I shall always be grateful for you; you
bedewed my life. These special gifts for you to express my gratitude.
Chanel Bracelet C037
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Dior handbag D8
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Cartier Baignoire 18kt Yellow Gold Mini Ladies Watch W15109D8
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Salvatore Ferragamo women belt SF09001
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Primp women wear P8
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Louis Vuitton auto 3 fold umbrella LV24
http://www.topluxurystore.com/product/Umbrella/65661/21.aspx
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