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TOPIC: SLUMDOG RUNS INTO CONTROVERSY OVER SONG CREDIT
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 17 2009 11:44 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
party . . .
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> we had to get it out of our system.
> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
> >
> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
> > Times of India
> > Monday, February 16, 2009
> >
> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
> >
> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
> >
> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> > options. I'm devastated."
> >
> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
> >
> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
> >
> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> > work," says Nepali.
> >
> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> > a G S Nepali composition.
> >
> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
> >
> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
> > author.
> >
> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
> >
> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
> >
> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
> >
> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
> >
> > More at:
> >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
> w/4131333.cms
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.hindu.org
> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >
> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >
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> >
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 1:40 pm
From: "harmony"
dr. jai maharaj ji, did you see pink panther 2?
you gotta see that one and see steve help the pope get his stolen ring back.
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20090217PdPY4y679TSBk1Pk1NtnH7t@UY49Q...
>I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
> but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
> a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
> party . . .
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
>> we had to get it out of our system.
>> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
>> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
>> >
>> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
>> > Times of India
>> > Monday, February 16, 2009
>> >
>> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
>> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
>> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
>> >
>> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
>> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
>> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
>> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
>> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
>> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
>> >
>> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
>> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
>> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
>> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
>> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
>> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
>> > options. I'm devastated."
>> >
>> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
>> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
>> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
>> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
>> >
>> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
>> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
>> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
>> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
>> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
>> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
>> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
>> >
>> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
>> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
>> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
>> > work," says Nepali.
>> >
>> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
>> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
>> > a G S Nepali composition.
>> >
>> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
>> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
>> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
>> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
>> >
>> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
>> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
>> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
>> > author.
>> >
>> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
>> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
>> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
>> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
>> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
>> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
>> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
>> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
>> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
>> >
>> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
>> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
>> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
>> >
>> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
>> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
>> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
>> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
>> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
>> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
>> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
>> >
>> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
>> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
>> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
>> >
>> > More at:
>> >
>>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
>> w/4131333.cms
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj
>> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
>> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
>> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
>> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>> >
>> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
>> > http://www.hindu.org
>> > http://www.hindunet.org
>> >
>> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
>> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
>> >
>> > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS
>> >
>> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>> > educational
>> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
>> > not
>> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of
>> > the
>> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption
>> > for
>> > fair use of copyrighted works.
>> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 5:28 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Dhanyavaad for the recommendation, harmony ji, but a
Pink Panther movie without Peter Sellers?
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
In article <499c803e$0$5494$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> dr. jai maharaj ji, did you see pink panther 2?
> you gotta see that one and see steve help the pope get his stolen ring back.
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
> > but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
> > a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
> > party . . .
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> >> we had to get it out of our system.
> >> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> >> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
> >> >
> >> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
> >> > Times of India
> >> > Monday, February 16, 2009
> >> >
> >> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> >> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> >> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
> >> >
> >> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> >> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> >> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> >> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> >> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> >> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
> >> >
> >> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> >> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> >> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> >> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> >> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> >> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> >> > options. I'm devastated."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> >> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> >> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> >> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> >> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> >> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> >> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> >> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
> >> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> >> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
> >> >
> >> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> >> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> >> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> >> > work," says Nepali.
> >> >
> >> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> >> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> >> > a G S Nepali composition.
> >> >
> >> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> >> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> >> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> >> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> >> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> >> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
> >> > author.
> >> >
> >> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> >> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> >> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> >> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> >> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> >> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> >> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> >> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> >> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
> >> >
> >> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> >> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> >> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
> >> >
> >> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> >> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> >> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> >> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> >> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> >> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> >> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
> >> >
> >> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> >> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> >> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
> >> w/4131333.cms
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >
> >> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >> >
> >> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> >> > http://www.hindu.org
> >> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >> >
> >> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> >> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >> >
> >> > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS
> >> >
> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >> > educational
> >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
> >> > not
> >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of
> >> > the
> >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption
> >> > for
> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name,
> >> > current
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> >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others
> >> > are
> >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the
> >> > article.
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> >> > of
> >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright
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> >> > believed
> >> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
> >> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with
> >> > Title
> >> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
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> >> > included
> >> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes
> >> > by
> >> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
> >> > information
> >> > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
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> >> > of
> >> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
> >> > copyright owner.
> >>
> >>
>
>
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