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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:03 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
By Meena Iyer, TNN
Times of India
Monday, February 16, 2009
Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
"overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
options. I'm devastated."
Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
he and music director Ravi made famous."
Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
this is the song that should have been featured. But
Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
the film Narsi Bhagat.
"My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
work," says Nepali.
Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
a G S Nepali composition.
Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
(before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
says he has not received any response from the London-based
author.
Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
writer should be given credit, if it is due."
Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
writer of the song," says Sameer.
Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
More at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articleshow/4131333.cms
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:45 am
From: L8 nuz
On Feb 16, 3:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
>
> By Meena Iyer, TNN
> Times of India
> Monday, February 16, 2009
>
> Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
>
> The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> options. I'm devastated."
>
> Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> he and music director Ravi made famous."
>
> Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> this is the song that should have been featured. But
> Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> the film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> work," says Nepali.
>
> Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> a G S Nepali composition.
>
> Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
>
> Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> says he has not received any response from the London-based
> author.
>
> Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
>
> Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> writer should be given credit, if it is due."
>
> Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> writer of the song," says Sameer.
>
> Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
>
> More at:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/ar...
>
> Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> Om Shanti
>
> Hindu Holocaust Museumhttp://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>
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>
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>
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I just decided (last Friday) to see THE WRESTLER on Saturday, GRAN
TORINO on Sunday and SLUMDOG today. So I went to see THE WRESTLER 2
days ago: an insanely piece of shit. No story, no twists, no nothing.
Now I have to admit that I hate wrestling, which is just another
method (along religion, trash TV, worst schools in the western world,
etc) to brainwash the American kids and keep the slave population
under control.
Anyways, the Saturday's experience made me wait for the gran torino
and slumdog dvd's
Damn! And I really liked Rourke in Nine ½ Weeks …
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:04 pm
From: "harmony"
i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
we had to get it out of our system.
so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20090215AS0eO8fF8x1X3o4LGj6yo2Y@MZ6zv...
> Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
>
> By Meena Iyer, TNN
> Times of India
> Monday, February 16, 2009
>
> Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
>
> The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> options. I'm devastated."
>
> Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> he and music director Ravi made famous."
>
> Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> this is the song that should have been featured. But
> Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> the film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> work," says Nepali.
>
> Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> a G S Nepali composition.
>
> Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
>
> Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> says he has not received any response from the London-based
> author.
>
> Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
>
> Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> writer should be given credit, if it is due."
>
> Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> writer of the song," says Sameer.
>
> Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
>
> More at:
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articleshow/4131333.cms
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> Om Shanti
>
> Hindu Holocaust Museum
> http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>
> Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> http://www.hindu.org
> http://www.hindunet.org
>
> The truth about Islam and Muslims
> http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
>
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>
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> educational
> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:09 pm
From: Bholu
On Feb 16, 12:04 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> we had to get it out of our system.
> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
Nikal gai shyshtam se?
Thanks bud.
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