Wednesday, February 16, 2011

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* AGORA - MOVIE DEPICTING CHRISTIAN TERRORISM - 6 messages, 2 authors
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* Rosario Dawson superhot Pictures - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Natalie Getz Bikini Pictures - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Patiala House - English subtitles - 1 messages, 1 author
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* HOT VIDEOS FOR YOUTH AND ALL ADULT PEOPLE 2011 SEXY HPOTOS - 1 messages, 1
author
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* RAHAT FREED, BUT ASKED TO STAY IN BHARAT PENDING PROBE - 1 messages, 1
author
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* Welcome to PhoToZfAiR - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: AGORA - MOVIE DEPICTING CHRISTIAN TERRORISM
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 14 2011 8:20 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Forwarded message from D. H.

Agora - Movie depicting Christian terrorism

Monday, February 14, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuEhwselE0

While not completely true to history it does depict what Christians
inflicted on the Greco-Romans and Jews once they gained power.

We need more movies like this promoting the truth about this vile
cult.

Has this movie been released in any Indian theatres?

End of forwarded message from D. H.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 11:40 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> Forwarded message from D. H.
>
> Agora - Movie depicting Christian terrorism
>
> Monday, February 14, 2011
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuEhwselE0
>
> While not completely true to history it does depict what Christians
> inflicted on the Greco-Romans and Jews once they gained power.
>
> We need more movies like this promoting the truth about this vile
> cult.
>
> Has this movie been released in any Indian theatres?
>
> End of forwarded message from D. H.

Forwarded message from K. V.

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

D. H.,

Why is the depiction in the movie not completely true to history? I
have just seen the trailer so it is hard for me to judge. But at
least three Christian accounts confirm the fact that Hypatia was
butchered by the Christian mob. Christian apologists have been
attempting to ridicule the positions taken by Gibbon or Sagan in
calling her an astronomer but we at least have fragments of Hypatia's
work on geometry that survive to this day and they lend credence to
the fact that she was a serious astronomer. I would like to hear your
agruments.

End of forwarded message from K. V.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 4:41 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Forwarded message from D. H.
> >
> > Agora - Movie depicting Christian terrorism
> >
> > Monday, February 14, 2011
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuEhwselE0
> >
> > While not completely true to history it does depict what Christians
> > inflicted on the Greco-Romans and Jews once they gained power.
> >
> > We need more movies like this promoting the truth about this vile
> > cult.
> >
> > Has this movie been released in any Indian theatres?
> >
> > End of forwarded message from D. H.
>
> Forwarded message from K. V.
>
> Tuesday, February 15, 2011
>
> D. H.,
>
> Why is the depiction in the movie not completely true to history? I
> have just seen the trailer so it is hard for me to judge. But at
> least three Christian accounts confirm the fact that Hypatia was
> butchered by the Christian mob. Christian apologists have been
> attempting to ridicule the positions taken by Gibbon or Sagan in
> calling her an astronomer but we at least have fragments of Hypatia's
> work on geometry that survive to this day and they lend credence to
> the fact that she was a serious astronomer. I would like to hear your
> agruments.
>
> End of forwarded message from K. V.

Forwarded message from G. S.

There one or two essays on the inaccuracies. Here is one of them:

http://faithljustice.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/agora-hypatia-part-i/

Discounting the historical inaccuracies as depicted scene-by-scene,
the general essence of Romans and Christians fighting, Pagans and
Christians fighting is captured.

The movie makers might be charged with artistic liberty, but the
destruction brought about by the early Christians on people in that
region is not far from truth.

End of forwarded message from G. S.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 4:58 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > Forwarded message from D. H.
> > >
> > > Agora - Movie depicting Christian terrorism
> > >
> > > Monday, February 14, 2011
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuEhwselE0
> > >
> > > While not completely true to history it does depict what Christians
> > > inflicted on the Greco-Romans and Jews once they gained power.
> > >
> > > We need more movies like this promoting the truth about this vile
> > > cult.
> > >
> > > Has this movie been released in any Indian theatres?
> > >
> > > End of forwarded message from D. H.
> >
> > Forwarded message from K. V.
> >
> > Tuesday, February 15, 2011
> >
> > D. H.,
> >
> > Why is the depiction in the movie not completely true to history? I
> > have just seen the trailer so it is hard for me to judge. But at
> > least three Christian accounts confirm the fact that Hypatia was
> > butchered by the Christian mob. Christian apologists have been
> > attempting to ridicule the positions taken by Gibbon or Sagan in
> > calling her an astronomer but we at least have fragments of Hypatia's
> > work on geometry that survive to this day and they lend credence to
> > the fact that she was a serious astronomer. I would like to hear your
> > agruments.
> >
> > End of forwarded message from K. V.
>
> Forwarded message from G. S.
>
> There one or two essays on the inaccuracies. Here is one of them:
>
> http://faithljustice.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/agora-hypatia-part-i/
>
> Discounting the historical inaccuracies as depicted scene-by-scene,
> the general essence of Romans and Christians fighting, Pagans and
> Christians fighting is captured.
>
> The movie makers might be charged with artistic liberty, but the
> destruction brought about by the early Christians on people in that
> region is not far from truth.
>
> End of forwarded message from G. S.

Forwarded message from G. S.

It is available on Netflix... for Netflix fans.

End of forwarded message from G. S.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 5:00 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > > Forwarded message from D. H.
> > > >
> > > > Agora - Movie depicting Christian terrorism
> > > >
> > > > Monday, February 14, 2011
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuEhwselE0
> > > >
> > > > While not completely true to history it does depict what Christians
> > > > inflicted on the Greco-Romans and Jews once they gained power.
> > > >
> > > > We need more movies like this promoting the truth about this vile
> > > > cult.
> > > >
> > > > Has this movie been released in any Indian theatres?
> > > >
> > > > End of forwarded message from D. H.
> > >
> > > Forwarded message from K. V.
> > >
> > > Tuesday, February 15, 2011
> > >
> > > D. H.,
> > >
> > > Why is the depiction in the movie not completely true to history? I
> > > have just seen the trailer so it is hard for me to judge. But at
> > > least three Christian accounts confirm the fact that Hypatia was
> > > butchered by the Christian mob. Christian apologists have been
> > > attempting to ridicule the positions taken by Gibbon or Sagan in
> > > calling her an astronomer but we at least have fragments of Hypatia's
> > > work on geometry that survive to this day and they lend credence to
> > > the fact that she was a serious astronomer. I would like to hear your
> > > agruments.
> > >
> > > End of forwarded message from K. V.
> >
> > Forwarded message from G. S.
> >
> > There one or two essays on the inaccuracies. Here is one of them:
> >
> > http://faithljustice.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/agora-hypatia-part-i/
> >
> > Discounting the historical inaccuracies as depicted scene-by-scene,
> > the general essence of Romans and Christians fighting, Pagans and
> > Christians fighting is captured.
> >
> > The movie makers might be charged with artistic liberty, but the
> > destruction brought about by the early Christians on people in that
> > region is not far from truth.
> >
> > End of forwarded message from G. S.
>
> Forwarded message from G. S.
>
> It is available on Netflix... for Netflix fans.
>
> End of forwarded message from G. S.

Forwarded message from D. H.

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

I wasn't talking about her being an astronomer but about her
discovering the Heliocentric model, in that regard the movie took
some liberty. Afaik none of her work has survived.

Recently motivated so called "scholars" of science have been trying
to make it out that her death had nothing to do with religion. For
example:

In the words of David Lindberg, "her death had everything to do with
local politics and virtually nothing to do with science".[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia

End of forwarded message from D. H.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 6:54 pm
From: uNmaivirumbi


On Feb 14, 11:20 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Forwarded message from D. H.

> We need more movies like this promoting the truth about this vile
> cult.

Islam and Christianity are vile cults. True. Thanks

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 4:48 pm
From: habshi@anony.net


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is mistranslated as
'An idiot white man..

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 15 2011 6:55 pm
From: suhas


On Feb 15, 3:10 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Rahat freed, but asked to stay in India pending probe
>
> IANS
> The Pioneer
> Monday, February 14, 2011
>
> Indraprasth aka New Delhi - A day after Pakistani singer Rahat Fateh
> Ali Khan was detained at the Delhi airport on charges of carrying
> undisclosed foreign currency of over $100,000, he was freed on
> Monday, but has been asked to stay in the country pending a probe
> into the source of the money.
>
> Rahat, along with two of his colleagues Maroof and event manager
> Chitresh Shirivastava, has been asked to appear before the
> Directorate of Revenue Intelligence (DIR) Feb 17, informed sources
> said.
>
> The three were asked by the DRI to surrender their passports and
> appear again for questioning in three days.
>
> Rahat was released after an assurance by the Pakistan high commission
> that he will cooperate with the probe, the sources added. He has been
> told not to leave the country.
>
> "We are only questioning him. We will be shortly taking a decision,"
> Vijaylakshmi Sharma, director-general of the DRI, told reporters when
> asked about the outcome of the interrogation.
>
> Rahat was detained at New Delhi's Indira Gandhi International Airport
> Sunday on his way back to Pakistan after attending concerts and award
> functions in India.
>
> "The DRI officers found altogether $124,000, which is equivalent to
> about Rs.60 lakh. $24,000 were found from the baggage carried by
> Rahat while the remaining $50,000 each were found from the baggage of
> two troupe members," Central Board of Excise and Customs chairman S.
> Dutt Majumdar said.
>
> Majumadar added that there were "clear violations of excise laws" and
> the currency carried by them was "much above" the allowed limit.
>
> According to norms, no one can carry beyond $5,000 in cash and $5,000
> in other instruments. The person has to declare to the Customs
> Department if he is carrying more than this amount.
>
> Islamabad started working up diplomatic channels to free Rahat Ali
> after he was detained Sunday night.
>
> Government sources in New Delhi Monday said India's external affairs
> ministry has been in touch with Pakistan's Foreign Office over the
> issue.
>
> Three officials from Pakistan's high commission in New Delhi came to
> zonal headquarters of the DRI where the singer was interrogated, but
> left after about 30 minutes, the sources said.
>
> Pakistan's Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir called India's High
> Commissioner Sharat Sabharwal in Islamabad and discussed the matter
> around midnight Sunday. He requested the Indian envoy to ensure that
> "no official should misbehave with Rahat during interrogation".
>
> Bashir also called up Pakistan's High Commissioner to India Shahid
> Malik and directed him to "take immediate steps for securing release
> of Rahat".
>
> "The matter should be taken up formally with the Indian foreign
> office," he said, adding that "contact with Indian authorities for
> updates in the case must be maintained throughout".
>
> Malik spoke with Vivek Katju, Secretary (West) in India's external
> affairs ministry, insisting that the protective custody of the singer
> be lifted, Pakistan's state-run APP news agency quoted a statement
> from the Pakistan Foreign Office as saying.
>
> Earlier, Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik called Shahid
> Malik and directed him "to provide necessary legal and other consular
> help to Rahat".
>
> Rahat's brother-in-law, Asim Raza, told Dunya TV that they "received
> information from the media and were feeling concerned about it". "We
> are yet to establish any proper contact with the authorities in India
> although Rahat talked briefly with his wife and asked her to remain
> hopeful of a positive outcome".
>
> Rahat, the nephew of legendary singer Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, is
> popular both in India and Pakistan. Several of his hit songs from
> Indian films are a rage on both sides of the border, for which he has
> won several awards, including the recent Filmfare award for "Dil to
> Bacha Hai Ji".
>
> http://dailypioneer.com/317703/Rahat-freed-but-asked-to-stay-in-India...
>
> More at:http://www.dailypioneer.com
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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Abhijit has raised a point as to why Rahat was freed so quickly.Maybe
Abhijit does not know we take orders from USA.
Does not know

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