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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 16 2010 8:22 pm
From: "HD"

"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote in
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> On 2/16/2010 7:44 PM, HD wrote:
>>
>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
>> message news:20100216Lx30bw2hi2vgZ1oPCQ74o07@KbX0W...
>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>> Om Shanti
>>>
>>> In article <4b7a2511$0$12459$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:qZoen.7986$pv.7518@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> >
>>>> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:4b7a09ea$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:Tbnen.7974$pv.3213@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>> news:4b79f58a$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>>> news:Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>>>> >>>>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>> >>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of >>>>>
>>>> Australians
>>>> >>>>> want to stop non christian migrants to come here to OUR
>>>> Country. >>>>> They
>>>> >>>>> are also the reason why some take it on themself to bash up
>>>> >>>>> foreigners.
>>>> >>>>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> a few things here:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> to equate the informed criticism of the misdeeds of the folks
>>>> >>>> associated with a controversial mideast deity with national >>>>
>>>> interests
>>>> >>>> seems a little bizzare, no? think,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> No, our culture and laws are based on it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> think renaissance, dear - the biggest nail on christianity that
>>>> >> started
>>>> >> the real western civilization that has the appeal.
>>>> >> would you rather live in the era of witch hunt, stake burning,
>>>> vatican
>>>> >> rule?
>>>> >> sordid hisotry of christiainity is the reason for separation of it
>>>> >> from
>>>> >> state (which includes laws)
>>>> >> culture? look at hollywood for it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> would you be a christian today if your forebears
>>>> >>>> somewhere up the line weren't forced - most likely against their
>>>> >>>> better
>>>> >>>> judgement - to join in by xtian crusaders?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Ancient history.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> you want the repeat of bad history, right?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> btw, the real critics of the church folks are your own white
>>>> >>>> democrats
>>>> >>>> in your country, many of are elected by your own people.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The church folks or the religious who misuse religion for their own
>>>> >>> gain?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> same thin.
>>>> >>
>>>> > You are too stupid and with your hate against Christians you have
>>>> no > idea.
>>>> > At least the British didn't tell the Indians to cloose their temples.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> you are not very bright:
>>>> Thousands of churches face closure in ten years
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1362709.ece
>>>
>>> Also, attendance in Christian churches is way down around the world. I
>>> say again:
>>>
>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>
>
> Using your standards we will have to shut down Congress too.
>
Not my standard you idiot. Read the whole thing before you butt in.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 7:21 am
From: "harmony"

"HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4b7a2511$0$12459$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:qZoen.7986$pv.7518@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b7a09ea$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Tbnen.7974$pv.3213@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4b79f58a$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>>>>>> wrote in message news:20100215ZSGnmJknxULiq51KH9lxD12@VwA0H...
>>>>>>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>>>>>>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of
>>>>>>> Australians want to stop non christian migrants to come here to OUR
>>>>>>> Country. They are also the reason why some take it on themself to
>>>>>>> bash up foreigners.
>>>>>>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a few things here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to equate the informed criticism of the misdeeds of the folks
>>>>>> associated with a controversial mideast deity with national interests
>>>>>> seems a little bizzare, no? think,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, our culture and laws are based on it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> think renaissance, dear - the biggest nail on christianity that
>>>> started the real western civilization that has the appeal.
>>>> would you rather live in the era of witch hunt, stake burning, vatican
>>>> rule?
>>>> sordid hisotry of christiainity is the reason for separation of it from
>>>> state (which includes laws)
>>>> culture? look at hollywood for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> would you be a christian today if your forebears
>>>>>> somewhere up the line weren't forced - most likely against their
>>>>>> better judgement - to join in by xtian crusaders?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ancient history.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you want the repeat of bad history, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> btw, the real critics of the church folks are your own white
>>>>>> democrats in your country, many of are elected by your own people.
>>>>>
>>>>> The church folks or the religious who misuse religion for their own
>>>>> gain?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> same thin.
>>>>
>>> You are too stupid and with your hate against Christians you have no
>>> idea.
>>> At least the British didn't tell the Indians to cloose their temples.
>>>
>>
>> you are not very bright:
>> Thousands of churches face closure in ten years
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1362709.ece
>
>
> All religions go through a phase.
> The same with Muslims and Hindus
> Look at Indonesia which used to be a Hindu nation.
> While Christian churches close in Europe many more open up in Africa.
>

it ain't a phase dear. it is the widespread education which makes people
think independently and hence reject the silly (and partisan at that)
notions of church, rendering them irrelevant, as witnessed in europe. africa
is largely uneducated and poor, hence very vulnerable to the church inc. -
like the historic europe was.
there are many western junk businesses that send western waste to the 3rd
world like the waste metal, waste plastic waste paper - and waste religion.

china has it right: it keeps the pope and missionaries and mullas out; and
look how smartly it is progressing.

in old days christianity took over because of its army of extreme brutes -
the main reason why you and so many millions are christians today. the oz
political party is trying to recapture the "glory" of those brutes.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 8:11 am
From: "harmony"

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100216Lx30bw2hi2vgZ1oPCQ74o07@KbX0W...
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b7a2511$0$12459$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>>
>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:qZoen.7986$pv.7518@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> >
>> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:4b7a09ea$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>> >>
>> >> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:Tbnen.7974$pv.3213@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> >>>
>> >>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:4b79f58a$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>> >>>>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> >>>>>> Om Shanti
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of
>> >>>>> Australians
>> >>>>> want to stop non christian migrants to come here to OUR Country.
>> >>>>> They
>> >>>>> are also the reason why some take it on themself to bash up
>> >>>>> foreigners.
>> >>>>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> a few things here:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> to equate the informed criticism of the misdeeds of the folks
>> >>>> associated with a controversial mideast deity with national
>> >>>> interests
>> >>>> seems a little bizzare, no? think,
>> >>>
>> >>> No, our culture and laws are based on it.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> think renaissance, dear - the biggest nail on christianity that
>> >> started
>> >> the real western civilization that has the appeal.
>> >> would you rather live in the era of witch hunt, stake burning, vatican
>> >> rule?
>> >> sordid hisotry of christiainity is the reason for separation of it
>> >> from
>> >> state (which includes laws)
>> >> culture? look at hollywood for it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> would you be a christian today if your forebears
>> >>>> somewhere up the line weren't forced - most likely against their
>> >>>> better
>> >>>> judgement - to join in by xtian crusaders?
>> >>>
>> >>> Ancient history.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> you want the repeat of bad history, right?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> btw, the real critics of the church folks are your own white
>> >>>> democrats
>> >>>> in your country, many of are elected by your own people.
>> >>>
>> >>> The church folks or the religious who misuse religion for their own
>> >>> gain?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> same thin.
>> >>
>> > You are too stupid and with your hate against Christians you have no
>> > idea.
>> > At least the British didn't tell the Indians to cloose their temples.
>> >
>>
>> you are not very bright:
>> Thousands of churches face closure in ten years
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1362709.ece
>
> Also, attendance in Christian churches is way down around the world. I say
> again:
>
> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>

china has done it; and results have been great.
of course, you don't have to have a tyrinically regime to it for you, all
you need is common sense.

> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 9:47 am
From: "harmony"

"Phil" <st_newcastleATyahooDOTcomDOTau> wrote in message
news:Xns9D219681F363DstnewcastleATyahooDO@211.29.133.50...
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:4b799278$0$12417$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net:
>
>> as i have said it is time for u.n. peacekeeping forces to march down
>> canbera.
>
> ...why don't you shut up, you bed-wetting green voting little spoilt
> bitch...
>
> ...my suggestion, little princess,...is to vote Liberal first and the
> Greens and ALP last and second last...forget that shit you posted and
> vote for the Liberals..."Left Is Bad", sweetheart...
>

well, at least the left has better manners than you.
i won't even bother citing evidence against your rogue right.
but a few names will do it:
hammer tom delay, dan burton, dick cheney, president not-to-be pat
robertson,
many big-oil friends of terrorist saudi arabia...................

>>
>> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>>
>> The line between religion and government in Australia has become
>> blurred.
>>
>> The churches now run more publicly funded schools and universities and
>> public hospitals, aged care and employment services on behalf of
>> government and can use these services to proselytise or to exclude
>> those with other beliefs. This relationship with government can
>> compromise the social justice function of the traditional churches in
>> speaking out about the treatment of refugees, the attack on Iraq, on
>> industrial relations and on poverty and indeed these churches in
>> particular have been attacked by government for doing so.
>>
>> Churches enjoy tax exempt status, even for business enterprises, but
>> there is little accountability for this financial advantage and no
>> obligation for the public revenue foregone be spent in the public
>> interest rather than those of particular churches.
>>
>> Conservative religious organisations appear more influential in the
>> major political parties and are investing their considerable resources
>> into electing their own candidates, viz the Family First party.
>> Federal ministers have reacted with divisive arguments to debates over
>> euthanasia, abortion, gay marriage and Christian values. Political
>> leaders and would-be leaders have publicly declared their religious
>> faith and courted Hillsong, Ministries of Fire and other new
>> evangelical churches.
>>
>> So have Australians become more religious or is it just their
>> politicians? Do Australians wish to see religion having more say in
>> government and, if so what this mean for democracy?
>>
>> The Australian Democrats say the neo-conservative religious right -
>> much of it with roots in the US - is having a disproportionate
>> influence on public policy.
>>
>> The Australian Democrats stand for a fair society that values justice,
>> democracy, individual freedom and diversity. We support freedom of
>> religion and the right of citizens to practice, or not practice, a
>> religious faith. But while we support freedom of religious observance,
>> we do not consider that religion should have undue influence on the
>> governance of Australian citizens and nor do we support the
>> exploitation of religion and religious difference for political
>> purposes.
>>
>> We will explore the relationship between religion and politics in
>> Australia and campaign for clearer separation of Church and State as
>> some other countries have done.
>>
>>
>> What we are doing
>>
>> Media statements, speeches and other work in the Parliament. You can
>> also sign up receive email updates on this issue - just click on the
>> link and put "sign up to god and government updates" in the subject
>> line.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 3:19 pm
From: "Chris Diesel"

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100215JuOpa0slKU3502o83UCt09r@Xazz7...
> In article <Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> posted:
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>> > Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>
>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of Australians
>> want
>> to stop non christian migrants to come here to OUR Country. They are also
>> the reason why some take it on themself to bash up foreigners.
>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
>
> Do you approve of Christian clergy sexually assaulting children?
> And if you want migrants to leave, others can stand behind
> the Europeans in the exit line because this is how they took over
> Australia:

If you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw stones;

Hindu priest held in rape of teenager during 'ritual'

The New York Daily News/September 9, 2006
By Scott Shifrel

A Hindu priest sexually assaulted two underage sisters - conning one of them
into having sex with him during a bogus cleansing ritual that involved
spreading oil over her naked body, prosecutors said yesterday.

Ramlal Ramadhar, 59, was charged with statutory rape for the attacks, which
allegedly occurred in 2002 and 2003 but came to light after one of the
girls, now 19, confided to a college counselor.

"Under the guise of being their religious leader," Ramadhar allegedly took
"advantage of the youngsters and their trust in him by robbing them of their
innocence," Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said. "Fortunately, one
of the sisters found the courage to come forward."

Ramadhar, whom authorities say was a police officer in his native Trinidad,
allegedly promised to help the then 16-year-old get rid of "evil spirits."

He allegedly lured her to an apartment in December 2002 and asked that she
take her clothes off and lie atop a white sheet with her arms outstretched.
Then he began to chant, put coins on her and rubbed oil from head to toe
before sexually assaulting her, according to a criminal complaint.

In February 2003, Ramadhar allegedly lured her to an Econo Lodge on Rockaway
Blvd. where he repeated the ritual and the assault, the complaint says.

"Now I have to do this to complete the ritual and I am sorry but I have to
do this," he allegedly said before raping her.

Ramadhar told cops he knew his actions were wrong but his wife, Stella
Ramadhar, called the alleged sex attacks a "big misunderstanding."

Ramadhar faces up to four years in prison for third-degree rape. He was
arraigned Thursday and ordered held on $50,000 bail by Queens Criminal Court
Judge Alex Zigman.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 3:26 pm
From: "Chris Diesel"

I would seem that child sex abuse is alive and well in India. I've always
noticed that those who delight in accusing others of sin are often covering
up for there own sins.

Hidden Darkness: Child Sexual Abuse in India
Written by Neeta Lal
Wednesday, 02 May 2007
An overwhelming number of India's children face unwanted attention
from sexual predators.

After a brilliant 16-year-old New Delhi girl repeatedly complained
last month that her mathematics teacher was "touching and fondling her
private parts," the upshot was a long way from what anybody bargained for.
When the girl's parents complained, the principal called them "regressive"
and blamed them for damaging the school's reputation. The girl now stays at
home to help cook and clean, her school bag lying in a locked cupboard, her
scholastic career over.

The story of the girl, referred to only as Seema, is depressingly
familiar, resonating across large parts of India, where abuse is a a
startling everyday reality for as many as half of the country's children,
according to a just-released 13-state National Study on Child Sexual Abuse
conducted by the Ministry of Women and Child Development, UNICEF and Save
The Children.

It is a long-hidden issue that India is finally beginning to wrestle
with. The government moved recently to establish a National Commission for
Protection of Children's Rights and plans are afoot to present an Offences
Against Children (Prevention) Bill in the Parliament. The proposed document
has specific sections dealing with various crimes against children,
including sale/transfer, sexual assault, sexual/physical/emotional abuse,
commercial sexual exploitation, child pornography, grooming for sexual
purpose, incest, corporal punishment, bullying and economic exploitation.

The scale of abuse, according to the national study, is far worse than
anybody had thought. It reports that 69 per cent of all Indian children are
victims of physical, mental or emotional abuse, with New Delhi's children
facing an astounding abuse rate of 83.12 percent.

The survey, which involved interviews with 12,447 children, also
highlights that it is usually family members (89 percent) who perpetrate
such crimes and that more boys face physical abuse (72.61) than girls (65
per cent). Overall, Indian children were found to be victims of a slew of
sexual crimes -- rape, sodomy, exposure to pornographic material, fondling,
forcible kissing and sexual advances, among others.

The study also notes that child sexual abuse in India begins as early
as five, ratchets up dramatically during pre-pubescence and peaks at 12 to
16 years. Some 21 percent of respondents acknowledged experiencing severe
sexual abuse like rape, sodomy, fondling or exposure to pornographic
material. Ironically, 71 per cent of sexual assault cases in India go
unreported.

Nor is the study an aberration. As long ago as the mid 1990s, Samvada,
a non-governmental organization in Karnataka, surveyed girls aged 15 to 21
from 11 schools and reported that 47 percent of the respondents were
molested or experienced sexual overtures, 15 percent of them under the age
of 10. Another 15 percent said they had experienced serious forms of sexual
abuse including rape - 31 percent of that group were under the age of 10
when the abuses took place.

India is home to more than 375 million children, comprising nearly 40
percent of the country's population, the largest number of minors in any
country in the world. Despite its ethos of non-violence, tolerance,
spirituality and a new trillion-dollar economy, India hosts the world's
largest number of sexually abused children, at a far higher rate than any
other country. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), one in
every four girls and one in every seven boys in the world are sexually
abused, hardly encouraging, but still far below India's totals.

Worse, child abuse is one of the least documented violations in the
country, records author Grace Poore in the book, The Children We Sacrifice,
which deals with the wide prevalence of child sexual abuse in India.

The reasons are manifold. In India, much like the rest of Asia,
children are expected to respect and obey authority figures such as
teachers, guidance counselors and principals and not question their actions.
Rebellion is perceived as a sign of a bad upbringing. This sensibility
perpetuates a culture of abuse by encouraging sexual predators.

Also, Indian adults often exercise a near-feudal hold over their
children, demanding complete and unquestioned obedience. A culture of
silence and shame also swirls around cases of sexual violence against
children. Unsurprisingly, the notion of shame is the single largest culprit
in perpetuating sexual violence against India's children.

Ironically, despite the magnitude of the problem, Indian courts offer
little panacea to victims. In fact the only legal recourse available to such
victims is the extensions of "rape laws", which apply to women and are
stretched to apply to children as well.

But, as authorities point out, rape laws only recognize sexual crimes
involving "penile penetration" and are totally dependent on medical
evidence. Such evidence is difficult to procure as abuse is usually not one
isolated case but a whole series of them. It may even involve episodes in
which the offender doesn't even touch the victim. Worse, the sexual
molestation law covers all sexual offences "that outrage the victim's
modesty," other than penetration. However, these two are bailable offences
and only demand punishment of a maximum of two years in jail and/or a fine
of few thousand rupees.

Though this law can be used in child sexual abuse cases, its reference
to "unusual sexual offences" makes it difficult for child victims to use
this option as a legal remedy. Since the definition of sexual abuse is
nebulous, victims are largely at the mercy of the court's discretion. On
rare cases when abusers are booked after a cumbersome legal procedure, India's
conviction rate is so abysmal (despite the country's sophisticated and
complex set of laws), it seems like a Pyrrhic victory.

Apart from the legal dimension, child sexual abuse also has
pronouncedly psychological and emotional elements. Worldwide surveys point
out that such abuse negatively impacts a child's physical, emotional and
mental well-being, leading to severe behavioral and psychiatric disorders.
Suicidal tendencies and drug abuse are common long-term effects.

A World Health Organization survey also points out that there is an
unambiguous behavioral and emotional pattern in the abused. Usually the
child hardly talks about the incident. And, even if he or she does, no one
takes it seriously. That in turn triggers feelings of self doubt and guilt,
exacerbating the child's feeling that it is his or her fault. As the child
matures, compulsive behavior reinforces this guilt. Small wonder that many
adult sexual problems, according to psychoanalysts, trace their provenance
to childhood abuse.

Charol Shakeshaft, a statistics professor in the School of Education
and Allied Human Services at Hofstra University, New York, notes in her
report, "Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature,"
that "child sexual abusers, including educators and priests, use similar
patterns of 'grooming practices' to break down a child's defenses. Often
popular and well-regarded in their field, abusers engage in 'systematic and
premeditated grooming' where they lavish special treatment on their intended
victim buying presents or sharing secrets, for example and then advance
to pornography."

Where then, does the solution lie? Educating and enlightening kids
about such issues, helping them distinguish between "good" and "bad" touch,
is a partial answer, authorities say. Children also ought to be made aware
of impulsive decisions they may make under pressure from peers, bullies and
abusers. Sex education in schools is also productive. The Netherlands, a
country where teenage pregnancy rates plummeted from 60 per cent to about 25
per cent through aggressive sex information campaigns in schools, is an
example.

However, in India the issue of sexual abuse is still wedged between
legal and policy commitments to children on the one hand, and the fallout of
globalization on the other. A nationwide furor resulted after the government's
recent decision to introduce sex education in schools. The subject has
divided opinion between camps who felt such a step would lead to unnecessary
experimentation by curious teenagers and others who believed it would help
whittle down cases of sexual abuse by creating widespread awareness.

In the meantime, with child sexual abuse attracting so much scrutiny
and public debate, the government has the added impetus to adopt strong and
unequivocal measures to contain such crimes. For a country with nearly 40
per cent of its populace comprised of children, such measures are overdue.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 7:38 pm
From: "HD"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> news:4b7a2511$0$12459$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>
>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>> news:qZoen.7986$pv.7518@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b7a09ea$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Tbnen.7974$pv.3213@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4b79f58a$0$12429$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Q%ken.7945$pv.1679@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:20100215ZSGnmJknxULiq51KH9lxD12@VwA0H...
>>>>>>>>> Shut down Christian churches to solvemost of the problems.
>>>>>>>>> Christian priests rape children and promote hate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comments like that are the reason an increasing number of
>>>>>>>> Australians want to stop non christian migrants to come here to OUR
>>>>>>>> Country. They are also the reason why some take it on themself to
>>>>>>>> bash up foreigners.
>>>>>>>> Sow some hate, receive some hate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a few things here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to equate the informed criticism of the misdeeds of the folks
>>>>>>> associated with a controversial mideast deity with national
>>>>>>> interests seems a little bizzare, no? think,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, our culture and laws are based on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> think renaissance, dear - the biggest nail on christianity that
>>>>> started the real western civilization that has the appeal.
>>>>> would you rather live in the era of witch hunt, stake burning, vatican
>>>>> rule?
>>>>> sordid hisotry of christiainity is the reason for separation of it
>>>>> from state (which includes laws)
>>>>> culture? look at hollywood for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would you be a christian today if your forebears
>>>>>>> somewhere up the line weren't forced - most likely against their
>>>>>>> better judgement - to join in by xtian crusaders?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ancient history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you want the repeat of bad history, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> btw, the real critics of the church folks are your own white
>>>>>>> democrats in your country, many of are elected by your own people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The church folks or the religious who misuse religion for their own
>>>>>> gain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> same thin.
>>>>>
>>>> You are too stupid and with your hate against Christians you have no
>>>> idea.
>>>> At least the British didn't tell the Indians to cloose their temples.
>>>>
>>>
>>> you are not very bright:
>>> Thousands of churches face closure in ten years
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1362709.ece
>>
>>
>> All religions go through a phase.
>> The same with Muslims and Hindus
>> Look at Indonesia which used to be a Hindu nation.
>> While Christian churches close in Europe many more open up in Africa.
>>
>
> it ain't a phase dear. it is the widespread education which makes people
> think independently and hence reject the silly (and partisan at that)
> notions of church, rendering them irrelevant, as witnessed in europe.
> africa is largely uneducated and poor, hence very vulnerable to the church
> inc. - like the historic europe was.
> there are many western junk businesses that send western waste to the 3rd
> world like the waste metal, waste plastic waste paper - and waste
> religion.
>
> china has it right: it keeps the pope and missionaries and mullas out; and
> look how smartly it is progressing.
>
> in old days christianity took over because of its army of extreme brutes -
> the main reason why you and so many millions are christians today. the oz
> political party is trying to recapture the "glory" of those brutes.
>

Idiot. I have been living in many countries under many Governments for over
70 years.
Sure, religion is declining in Europe. Perversion, moral degradation
breakdown of families and greed is increasing proportionally.

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TOPIC: 'SEX MAD' CHRISTIAN VICAR WHO PRAYED AFTER MAKING LOVE WITH FEMALE
CHURCHGOER IS SUSPENDED
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 9:02 am
From: "harmony"

i think he was trying to catch up on preying, err praying.
kirastanis pray twice in 24 housrs: at the dinner table for "daily bread
about to receive", and at bedtime (for nightly sex about to receive?)

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> 'Sex mad' vicar who prayed after making love with female churchgoer is
> suspended
>
> By Daily Mail Reporter
> The Daily Mail
> Tuesday, February 9, 2010
>
> Reverend Stephen Smith
>
> Reverend Stephen Smith said the incident had left him very upset. He
> said: 'It's very distressing and really it has been quite bleak'
>
> A 'sex mad' vicar has been suspended from duty for six months over
> claims of 'inappropriate behaviour' with a female member of his
> congregation, it has emerged.
>
> A former girlfriend, Kerry Lansfield, is said to reported Reverend
> Stephen Smith to Church of England authorities.
>
> Ms Lansfield said she suffered a nervous breakdown following his
> marriage to her love rival last summer.
>
> Parishioners at St Mary's Church, in Cardington, Bedfordshire, were
> told the news during a Sunday service.
>
> In a statement read to churchgoers by acting Reverend Peter
> Littleford, church goers were told a complaint had been made against
> Rev Smith in August 2009.
>
> It related to claims of an 'inappropriate relationship with a female
> member of the congregation', resulting in his suspension from church
> duties for six months.
>
> Ms Lansfield said: 'We had a two-year relationship but I suspected he
> had a secret girlfriend when I heard him blowing kisses down the
> phone.
>
> 'I thought we'd get married. He was sex mad and often took me back to
> his vicarage for a "bit of the other".
>
> 'It was an intense sexual relationship but he felt guilty after we
> had been to bed.
>
> 'He would start praying and say "Praise the Lord" for the tender
> moments we had shared together.
>
> 'I was new to the church and felt a bit uncomfortable about it. But I
> trusted him and he totally betrayed me.'
>
> She added: 'When I feared he had a secret girlfriend, I challenged
> him about it and he eventually admitted there was another woman in
> his life.
>
> 'I ended the relationship but was in a terrible state. He'd blank me
> in church and the congregation turned their backs on me. Rev Stephen
> Smith with his wife Sue on their wedding day Kerry Lansfield
>
> Stephen Smith with his wife Sue on their wedding day and lover Kerry
> Lansfield
>
> 'Then I learned he was getting married. I had a breakdown and, at my
> mother's insistence, I reported him,' she told the Daily Express.
>
> A church source said yesterday that neither the vicar nor the woman
> had been married at the time the claims of 'inappropriate behaviour'
> occurred.
>
> Speaking outside his vicarage home in Bedford yesterday Rev Smith
> said the whole incident had left him very upset.
>
> He said: 'It's very distressing and really it has been quite bleak.
> I'm just trying to get on with things now and I'm leaving it for the
> diocese to deal with it.'
>
> The revelations followed a February newsletter sent to all members of
> the congregation which claimed Mr Smith was taking time off because
> he was ill.
>
> It read: 'Sadly the first edition of 2010 comes to you without a
> leading article from our team vicar, the Reverend Stephen Smith. St
> Mary's Church in Cardington, Bedfordshire
>
> Shocked flock: St Mary's Church in Cardington, Bedfordshire
>
> 'At the time of printing Stephen is still unwell and under doctors
> orders to remain at home.
>
> 'We send him our love and very best wishes for better health in the
> coming year.'
>
> Margaret Nicholson, 57, who works in retail and lives in the village,
> said everyone had been stunned by Mr Smith's suspension.
>
> She said: 'We are very shocked and nobody really knows what is going
> on.
>
> 'He is a fun-loving jokey man but has never been untoward to any of
> us. He is a real gentleman.
>
> 'He has never done anything to make me feel uneasy and it seems to me
> he is the victim of a woman scorned.'
>
> A Church of England spokesman for the Diocese of St Albans confirmed
> Mr Smith's ban came into force on Sunday, January 31.
>
> He said: 'The Bishop of Hertford, the Mr Christopher Foster, has
> heard the complaint under the legislation governing the Clergy
> Discipline Measure 2003.
>
> 'He determined the Mr Stephen Smith should be prohibited from
> exercising any functions as a member of the clergy for six months.
> This is a significant penalty.
>
> 'A complaint was made against the Reverend Stephen Smith, Team Vicar
> in the Elstow Team Ministry, Bedfordshire, that his conduct towards
> an adult female member of his parish was inappropriate to the office
> and work of a Clerk in Holy Orders.
>
> 'The public and the Church rightly expect the highest standards of
> behaviour from clergy and take seriously any falling short from these
> standards.'
>
> The spokesman also confirmed police were not involved in the case and
> said it was likely Rev Smith would return to the church when his
> suspension expired.
>
> St Mary's has a chancel dating back from the early 13th century but
> the remainder of the church was built in 1901 thanks to the
> generosity of the local Whitbread brewing family.
>
> Read more:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249545/Sex-mad-vicar-suspended-inappropriate-behaviour-woman-churchgoer.html#ixzz0f4Q1SdTN
>
> More at:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249545/Sex-mad-vicar-suspended-inappropriate-behaviour-woman-churchgoer.html
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
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TOPIC: SECURITY STRENGTHENED IN MUMBAI, MAHARASHTR [MUSLIM TERRORISM]
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 9:08 am
From: "harmony"

would the dumb media of india ever note it.

<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20100214DYkLdW8K92S3jF2EJ8Xk7Fq@P03hF...
>I used "STRENGTHENED" in my original post's subject header.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4b779339$0$12424$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> it is unconstitutional to beef up in view the law that bans cow
>> slaughter?
>>
>>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Security beefed up in Mumbai, Maharashtra
>> >
>> > IANS
>> > The Indian Express
>> > First Published: 14 Feb 2010 12:29:33 AM IST
>> >
>> > Mumbai - Maharashtra Chief Minister Ashok Chavan said late Saturday
>> > that security in Mumbai and other parts of the state had been
>> > tightened in the wake of the Pune terror attack in which nine people
>> > died.
>> >
>> > The leaves of all policemen across the state have been cancelled
>> > following the attack, in which 32 people were injured.
>> >
>> > "The number of fatalities is likely to go up," said a grim chief
>> > minister after chairing a meeting of top officials late Saturday.
>> >
>> > "Security has been tightened at all important installations,
>> > including the airport, railway stations and other places in Mumbai,"
>> > said Chavan as he emerged from the meeting.
>> >
>> > "Security has been tightened at all the locations which were surveyed
>> > by Lashkar-e-Taiba operative David Headley last year in Mumbai, Pune
>> > and other places," he added.
>> >
>> > Referring to a central alert in October 2009 warning of a possible
>> > terror strike in Pune, Chavan said that there was complete co-
>> > ordination between the state and central security apparatus.
>> >
>> > But he declined to comment on the possibility of involvement of known
>> > terror groups as being responsible for the blast.
>> >
>> > "Until I get the feedback from the investigators at the site, I would
>> > not like to comment on this as it has major ramifications," Chavan
>> > said.
>> >
>> > Pune Police Commissioner Satyapal Singh confirmed late Saturday night
>> > that nine people, including five women, perished in the blast.
>> >
>> > At team of the Force One commando left from Mumbai Saturday to assist
>> > the Mumbai and Pune Anti-Terrorist Squads, the NIA, the CBI and the
>> > NSG teams in the investigations.
>> >
>> > A team of experts from the Pune cantonment of the Southern Army
>> > Command has also reached the site of the blast, the first major
>> > terror blast in the country after Nov 26, 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.
>> >
>> > Chavan also announced compensation of Rs.100,000 for the next of kin
>> > of each of the deceased and Rs.50,000 for the injured.
>> >
>> > Earlier Deputy Chief Minister Chhagan Bhujbal admitted that though
>> > alerts have been regularly received, these did not specify the time
>> > or location of the possible terror attacks.
>> >
>> > Besides Maharashtra the central government has issued an advisory to
>> > all states to tighten security after the blast.
>> >
>> > In Mumbai, security was tightened at the Chhatrapati Shivaji
>> > International Airport, the Mumbai Port, the BARC, BSE, important
>> > railways terminals and stations, luxury hotels, important government
>> > buildings, VVIP areas of south Mumbai and the beaches dotting the
>> > city.
>> >
>> > Elsewhere in Maharashtra, security has been beefed up at the Sai Baba
>> > Temple in Shirdi, the Pandharpur Temple and other major places of
>> > historical, religious and tourism significance.
>> >
>> > More at:
>> >
>>
>> http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?title=Security%20beefed%20up%20
>> in%20Mumbai,%20Maharashtra&artid=ZD07b1uAC84=&type=
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
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TOPIC: Sexy Photo Bride Gallery
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/603ca6f9d9d8871f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 1:42 pm
From: muhammed iqbal

Sexy Photo Bride Gallery

http://bridephotogallary.blogspot.com

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TOPIC: why aus is so violent
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/436365a0f203d495?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 2:09 pm
From: "harmony"

it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a mono
partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera and
straighten out the mess.

http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 3:24 pm
From: "Seon Ferguson"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a
> mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
> and straighten out the mess.
>
> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>
>
What about India? Your racist government believes they are superior just
because they lie and say they have had more lives. The racist barbaric caste
system is even worse then our system. Hypocrite.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 4:38 pm
From: Hunter

harmony wrote:
<snip>

Easy question to answer, managed it in the subject line.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 6:37 pm
From: "Arindam Banerjee"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> it is because the oz govt is super religious -

The Govt. is not super religious, dear bundree. Many people are religious
(80% if you believe stats).

> which means they have a mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which
> wants others killed.

No, you stupid bundree. The Jehovah God of the Jews that most worship in
Oz tells people to behave properly, by giving them ten commandments. Thou
shalt not kill - is one of the ten commandments.

> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
> and straighten out the mess.

heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh

Australia today leads the world in soundness of finances, excellence in
living conditions, peacefulness of existence, wealth of beauty and creative
insight, capacity for superb research, leisure and grace, tolerance and
diversity - for the vast majority of genuine Australians.

Cheers, bundree. Up your tail, swing in joy, go eat a banana.

Arindam Banerjee.
>
> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>
>

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 6:42 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a mono
> partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera and
> straighten out the mess.
>
> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/

The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 11:12 pm
From: "HD"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it is because the oz govt is super religious -

No, it is because we have too many Indians here.

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TOPIC: Islam and Terror are intertwined
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 6:52 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

In article <4b7c16be$0$26973$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:

> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:83e24d80-a2f8-446c-a381-9add45d8fed4@d3g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...

>> On Feb 16, 5:26 pm, Moorthy <morta...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Here religious hijab wearing proper Muslima wife extols husband to
>>> carry out "Allah's" will and attain "Shahazad" by butchering infidels.
>>>
>>> Islam and terrorism are two sides of the same
>>> coin.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8516378.stm

>> Why do non-muslims ignore this obvious fact?

> because of congressis and commies.
> but now no more. thanks to wonderful guys like jai maharaj ji, yourself and
> many others.

Dhanyavaad, and you too harmony ji.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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TOPIC: Detect forged documents: Courtesy Indian techie
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/4014ab1283108cac?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 9:22 pm
From: "harmony"

i guess the religious govt of the oz can't send missionaries to india on
false pretenses.

Detect forged documents: Courtesy Indian techie
Monday,25 January 2010

Bangalore: Those using fake and forged documents in the U.S. can now be
traced easily, thanks to a new software developed by Dr. Gaurav Gupta from
Kurukshetra in Haryana. The software and methodology developed by Dr. Gupta
helps to identify and quantify imperfections and lead investigators to the
devices used for producing fake documents and digital signatures.

According to Dr. Gupta, the perpetrators of such crimes were ignorant of the
fact that the imperfection was unique to each device. "The system will help
us locate the source and even the scanner and printer used to commit the
forgery," he said. Recently, the young 30-year-old scientist was honored by
the former President, Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, during the 97th Indian Science
Congress at Thiruvananthapuram.

According to him, the basic idea of this software is that no two printing
machines or scanners will give identical outputs. "There will be several
differences in residual patterns which can be found on the suspected
document in identical machines. These patterns are results of mechanical
imperfection of each device which are not visible to naked eye," he adds.

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TOPIC: India ranks 124th globally in economic freedom
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 10:00 pm
From: "harmony"

indian economy under congressi rule

India ranks 124th globally in economic freedom

Washington: With an economic freedom score of 53.8, India has been rated the
124th freest economy in the world, according to the 16th annual Index of
Economic Freedom, released by The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street
Journal.

Based on this global survey countries were also ranked according to their
regions and India is ranked 24th out of 41 countries in the Asia-Pacific
region. India's score is 0.6 point lower than last year as a result of
declines in freedom from corruption, business freedom, and monetary freedom.
The country's overall score is below the world average of 59.4 on a scale of
100.

The level of economic freedom in the world dipped slightly in 2009,
according to the index released Wednesday as Hong Kong and Singapore
finished 1st and 2nd in the rankings for the 16th straight year.With
Australia in 3rd place and New Zealand moving up to number 4, the
Asia-Pacific region boasts a clean sweep at the top

This is only the second time in the history of the Index that average scores
for countries measured in successive years have declined.

According to the index one reason for the dip in world economic freedom was:
To help ward off recession, many governments launched unsuccessful attempts
to spend their way to prosperity.

India continues to move forward with market-oriented economic reforms and
has achieved average growth of about 9 percent over the past five years, the
report said.

"Despite sluggish progress in reducing onerous non-tariff barriers, the
trade regime has gradually become more open, with its average tariff rate
decreasing," it said but "The state still plays a major role in over 200
public-sector enterprises."

"Public debt is 80 percent of GDP, leaving little fiscal room to react to
the global downturn. India's overly restrictive regulatory environment does
not facilitate entrepreneurship or realization of the economy's full
potential," the report said.

"Corruption is pervasive, and the judicial system remains inefficient and
clogged by a large backlog of cases. Labour freedom is especially weak, with
rigid regulations a costly impediment to further economic growth and job
creation."

Europe registered three top 10 placements: Ireland, Denmark and Switzerland.
As a cautionary tale about the dangers of government intervention, the
United Kingdom dropped out of the top 10 for the first time in Index
history.

The United States also dropped significantly, to 8th place. Both countries
increased government spending, and each lost more than 2.0 points on its
Index score.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 17 2010 10:36 pm
From: "harmony"

of course, you must know sanskrit, and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
ji has pointed to.

Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.

India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans to
hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in the
fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its
hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000
campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched about
18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for
fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by
May-June 2010.

Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now fear
that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People are
leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which as
a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations,
Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup
just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will get
more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility, which
will pay off in the long run," says Divya.

Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the
slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges.
"Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right
talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the
challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies feels
that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they hire
lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very
serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the
coming months.

Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who are
joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup
environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were
people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without worrying
about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time the
company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and also
has some prospects in Anna University.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 18 2010 12:04 am
From: "P. Rajah"

harmony aka pradipshithead parekh wrote:

> of course, you must know sanskrit,

What for, shit for brains? The article you quote is all about IT, which
means a working knowledge of English is what is required.

> and meet the other criteria jai maharaj
> ji has pointed to.

The only thing "criteria" enumerated by Jay Stevens Maharaj, the jackass
jyotishithead, results in your head being filled with shit, you being a
prime example.

Here's where you and Jay can find jobs:
http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2010/01/13/brothels-in-red-street-are-hiring-astrologers/

> Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at
> major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who
> are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining
> them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the
> job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to
> recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select
> a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says
> Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.

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