Saturday, February 28, 2009

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* zindagii bhar nahii.n bhullegii - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Dilip aka A.R.Rahman make big news in India now - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/366b07a5495711cd?hl=en

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TOPIC: zindagii bhar nahii.n bhullegii
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 26 2009 11:06 pm
From: Rahul Upadhyaya


zindagii bhar nahii.n bhulegii vo puruskaar kii raat
unake nirNay pe nirbhar hamaarii aukaat kii raat

haay vo reshamii kaaliin pe fudakanaa unakaa
raTe-raTaae hue toto.n saa chahakanaa unakaa
kabhii dekhii na sunii aisii Tapakatii laar kii raat

haay vo <stage> pe jaakar ke gaanaa jay ho
ek bhii shabd jisakaa na samajh aayaa <judge> ko
phir usii giit ko kahate hue shaahakaar kii raat

jo na samajhe hai.n na samajhe.nge 'deewar' kii maa.N ko kabhii
jo na sunate hai.n na sune.nge <Gulzar> ke giito.n ko kabhii
unhii.n logo.n ke haatho.n se milate hue inaam kii raat

abhii tak to karate the sirf baate.n hii angrezii me.n vo
ab banaane bhii lage.nge filme.n angrezii me.n vo
gair ke saraahate hii miTate hue svaabhimaan kii raat

kyaa kiyaa piir ne aisaa ki dharm tak chho.Daa usane
kyaa diyaa dhan ne hame.n aisaa ki desh bhii chho.Daa hamane
dil me.n tuufaan uThaate hue jazabaat kii raat

(Sahir se kShamaayaachanaa sahit)
Devanagarii version: http://mere--words.blogspot.com/2009/02/425-445-0827-26-2009.html

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TOPIC: Dilip aka A.R.Rahman make big news in India now
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.movies.local.indian/t/366b07a5495711cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 4:44 pm
From: habshi@anony.com (habshi)


What annoys me is that Islam bans music as Dr Zakir Naik keeps
stressing on his Islamic channel 820, and Sufi music is really Hindu
bhakti music, and his Hindu upbringing gave AR Rehman the chance to
enjoy and experiment with music and yet he gives the credit to non
existent cruel Allah !
Its a good thing Hindus are tolerant of converts to another
religion.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:23:25 -0800 (PST), uNmaiviLambi
<tripurantaka@yahoo.com> wrote:

When Dilip was three, his father died. Mother was greatly saddened.
Muslims waited in the wings. Then when Dilip's sister developed an
illness, mother prayed in temples and was encouraged to go to a darga
by a Pir ( a con artist from muslim clan). She did so and felt the
sister recovered because of the Pir! She gradually got brainwashed as
she was weak and vulnerable after losing husband. Muslims and
Christians usually prey upon these weak people. Hindus have to watch
out and learn lessons. Mother became a Muslim and converted Dilip and
sister. Other siblings felt bad and remained Hindu and still are
Hindus

Thus this is a real life event as to how Muslims and Christians are
predatory and try to destroy society


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 10:53 pm
From: Romanise


On 28 Feb, 00:44, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
>         What annoys me is that Islam bans music as Dr Zakir Naik keeps
> stressing on his Islamic channel 820, and Sufi music is really Hindu
> bhakti music, and his Hindu upbringing gave AR Rehman the chance to
> enjoy and experiment with music

The dogs for hinduism has one track mind. Muslim upbringing on the
subcontinent has played as much role for the health of music there as
Hindu, Parsi, Sikh or ant other kind of upbringing.

> and yet he gives the credit to non
> existent cruel Allah !
>         Its a good thing Hindus are tolerant of converts to another
> religion.

Not so for the Hindu Dogs here.


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Friday, February 27, 2009

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* Omega De Ville Prestige Quartz Mens Watch 4610.32.02, Best Wristwatch World -
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* zindagii bhar nahii.n bhullegii - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:15 pm
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TOPIC: zindagii bhar nahii.n bhullegii
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 26 2009 11:06 pm
From: Rahul Upadhyaya


zindagii bhar nahii.n bhulegii vo puruskaar kii raat
unake nirNay pe nirbhar hamaarii aukaat kii raat

haay vo reshamii kaaliin pe fudakanaa unakaa
raTe-raTaae hue toto.n saa chahakanaa unakaa
kabhii dekhii na sunii aisii Tapakatii laar kii raat

haay vo <stage> pe jaakar ke gaanaa jay ho
ek bhii shabd jisakaa na samajh aayaa <judge> ko
phir usii giit ko kahate hue shaahakaar kii raat

jo na samajhe hai.n na samajhe.nge 'deewar' kii maa.N ko kabhii
jo na sunate hai.n na sune.nge <Gulzar> ke giito.n ko kabhii
unhii.n logo.n ke haatho.n se milate hue inaam kii raat

abhii tak to karate the sirf baate.n hii angrezii me.n vo
ab banaane bhii lage.nge filme.n angrezii me.n vo
gair ke saraahate hii miTate hue svaabhimaan kii raat

kyaa kiyaa piir ne aisaa ki dharm tak chho.Daa usane
kyaa diyaa dhan ne hame.n aisaa ki desh bhii chho.Daa hamane
dil me.n tuufaan uThaate hue jazabaat kii raat

(Sahir se kShamaayaachanaa sahit)
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Saturday, February 21, 2009

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* The curious case of Benjamin Button - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Bilu barbar - English subtitles - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 7:37 pm
From: naureen101@aol.com


On Feb 17, 4:48�pm, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
> � �
What is the matter Habshi,you don't want to watch billo? You can't
take two khans in the movie. hehhehe.
It has all your favourite village and indianized scenes and is much
better than any movie of 2008 and 2009.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 20 2009 5:44 pm
From: habshi@anony.com (habshi)


The first half is a bit sporofic, the second a surprise
emotional twist at the end. I really went to see Lara Dutta and
looking at her for three hours is pure heaven.
Liked the village bilu banykar song , the one that builds up
to a fast crescendo at the end and employs tuneful Indian instruments
instead of the screeching western ones.
Photography is outstanding , none of this shading stuff brown
or blue.


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Friday, February 20, 2009

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* SLUMDOG RUNS INTO CONTROVERSY OVER SONG CREDIT - 1 messages, 1 author
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* The curious case of Benjamin Button - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 5:28 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dhanyavaad for the recommendation, harmony ji, but a
Pink Panther movie without Peter Sellers?

Jai Maharaj
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http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

In article <499c803e$0$5494$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> dr. jai maharaj ji, did you see pink panther 2?
> you gotta see that one and see steve help the pope get his stolen ring back.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
> > but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
> > a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
> > party . . .
> >
> > Jai Maharaj

> > In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> >> we had to get it out of our system.
> >> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> >> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
> >> >
> >> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
> >> > Times of India
> >> > Monday, February 16, 2009
> >> >
> >> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> >> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> >> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
> >> >
> >> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> >> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> >> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> >> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> >> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> >> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
> >> >
> >> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> >> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> >> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> >> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> >> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> >> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> >> > options. I'm devastated."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> >> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> >> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> >> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> >> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> >> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> >> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> >> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
> >> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> >> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
> >> >
> >> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> >> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> >> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> >> > work," says Nepali.
> >> >
> >> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> >> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> >> > a G S Nepali composition.
> >> >
> >> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> >> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> >> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> >> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> >> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> >> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
> >> > author.
> >> >
> >> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> >> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> >> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> >> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> >> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> >> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> >> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> >> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> >> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
> >> >
> >> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> >> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> >> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
> >> >
> >> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> >> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> >> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> >> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> >> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> >> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> >> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
> >> >
> >> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> >> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> >> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
> >> w/4131333.cms
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> >> > Om Shanti
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 7:37 pm
From: naureen101@aol.com


On Feb 17, 4:48�pm, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
> � �
What is the matter Habshi,you don't want to watch billo? You can't
take two khans in the movie. hehhehe.
It has all your favourite village and indianized scenes and is much
better than any movie of 2008 and 2009.


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Thursday, February 19, 2009

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* SLUMDOG RUNS INTO CONTROVERSY OVER SONG CREDIT - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Amazing and cutest things for u.. - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: SLUMDOG RUNS INTO CONTROVERSY OVER SONG CREDIT
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 17 2009 11:44 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
party . . .

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> we had to get it out of our system.
> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
> >
> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
> > Times of India
> > Monday, February 16, 2009
> >
> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
> >
> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
> >
> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> > options. I'm devastated."
> >
> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
> >
> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
> >
> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> > work," says Nepali.
> >
> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> > a G S Nepali composition.
> >
> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
> >
> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
> > author.
> >
> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
> >
> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
> >
> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
> >
> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
> >
> > More at:
> >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
> w/4131333.cms
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.hindu.org
> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >
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> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 1:40 pm
From: "harmony"


dr. jai maharaj ji, did you see pink panther 2?
you gotta see that one and see steve help the pope get his stolen ring back.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20090217PdPY4y679TSBk1Pk1NtnH7t@UY49Q...
>I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
> but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
> a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
> party . . .
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>
>> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
>> we had to get it out of our system.
>> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
>> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
>
>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>
>> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
>> >
>> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
>> > Times of India
>> > Monday, February 16, 2009
>> >
>> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
>> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
>> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
>> >
>> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
>> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
>> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
>> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
>> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
>> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
>> >
>> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
>> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
>> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
>> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
>> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
>> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
>> > options. I'm devastated."
>> >
>> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
>> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
>> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
>> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
>> >
>> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
>> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
>> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
>> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
>> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
>> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
>> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
>> >
>> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
>> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
>> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
>> > work," says Nepali.
>> >
>> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
>> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
>> > a G S Nepali composition.
>> >
>> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
>> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
>> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
>> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
>> >
>> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
>> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
>> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
>> > author.
>> >
>> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
>> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
>> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
>> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
>> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
>> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
>> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
>> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
>> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
>> >
>> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
>> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
>> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
>> >
>> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
>> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
>> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
>> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
>> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
>> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
>> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
>> >
>> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
>> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
>> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
>> >
>> > More at:
>> >
>>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
>> w/4131333.cms
>> >
>> > Jai Maharaj
>> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
>> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
>> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
>> > Om Shanti
>> >
>> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
>> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>> >
>> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
>> > http://www.hindu.org
>> > http://www.hindunet.org
>> >
>> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
>> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
>> >
>> > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS
>> >
>> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
>> > educational
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 5:28 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Dhanyavaad for the recommendation, harmony ji, but a
Pink Panther movie without Peter Sellers?

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

In article <499c803e$0$5494$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> dr. jai maharaj ji, did you see pink panther 2?
> you gotta see that one and see steve help the pope get his stolen ring back.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
> > but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
> > a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
> > party . . .
> >
> > Jai Maharaj

> > In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> >> we had to get it out of our system.
> >> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> >> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.
> >
> >> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >>
> >> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
> >> >
> >> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
> >> > Times of India
> >> > Monday, February 16, 2009
> >> >
> >> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> >> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> >> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
> >> >
> >> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> >> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> >> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> >> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> >> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> >> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
> >> >
> >> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> >> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> >> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> >> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> >> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> >> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> >> > options. I'm devastated."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> >> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> >> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> >> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> >> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> >> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> >> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> >> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
> >> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> >> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
> >> >
> >> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> >> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> >> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> >> > work," says Nepali.
> >> >
> >> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> >> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> >> > a G S Nepali composition.
> >> >
> >> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> >> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> >> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> >> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
> >> >
> >> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> >> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> >> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
> >> > author.
> >> >
> >> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> >> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> >> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> >> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> >> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> >> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> >> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> >> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> >> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
> >> >
> >> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> >> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> >> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
> >> >
> >> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> >> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> >> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> >> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> >> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> >> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> >> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
> >> >
> >> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> >> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> >> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
> >> >
> >> > More at:
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
> >> w/4131333.cms
> >> >
> >> > Jai Maharaj
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> >> > Om Shanti
> >> >
> >> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> >> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
> >> >
> >> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> >> > http://www.hindu.org
> >> > http://www.hindunet.org
> >> >
> >> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> >> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
> >> >
> >> > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS
> >> >
> >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
> >> > educational
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> >> > not
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> >> > the
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> >> > fair use of copyrighted works.
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> >> > are
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> >> > Title
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:09 pm
From: Bholu


On Feb 16, 12:04 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> we had to get it out of our system.
> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.

Nikal gai shyshtam se?

Thanks bud.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 17 2009 11:44 pm
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


I have a Director's Cut DVD of the project sitting here somewhere
but haven't watched it yet -- don't know if ever will, unless
a certain party forces it upon those present at a certain after-Oscars
party . . .

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

In article <4999c6b4$0$5487$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> we had to get it out of our system.
> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
> >
> > By Meena Iyer, TNN
> > Times of India
> > Monday, February 16, 2009
> >
> > Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> > announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> > Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
> >
> > The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> > beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> > on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> > to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> > Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> > 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
> >
> > Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> > ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> > "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> > question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> > the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> > Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> > options. I'm devastated."
> >
> > Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> > of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> > his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> > he and music director Ravi made famous."
> >
> > Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> > but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> > of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> > written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> > this is the song that should have been featured. But
> > Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> > the film Narsi Bhagat.
> >
> > "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> > inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> > writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> > work," says Nepali.
> >
> > Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> > sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> > a G S Nepali composition.
> >
> > Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> > (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> > sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> > Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
> >
> > Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> > the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> > says he has not received any response from the London-based
> > author.
> >
> > Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> > in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> > 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> > Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> > did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> > matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> > this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> > Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> > 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
> >
> > Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> > the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> > writer should be given credit, if it is due."
> >
> > Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> > Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> > Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> > didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> > the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> > acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> > writer of the song," says Sameer.
> >
> > Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> > said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> > Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
> >
> > More at:
> >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articlesho
> w/4131333.cms
> >
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 17 2009 4:48 pm
From: habshi@anony.com (habshi)


Based on a true story about a man who is born as an 85 year
old but gets younger as he gets older. An idea that Bollywood must
definitely copy , and will make it more emotional with music.
This movie does have some music and ballet dancing but very
short twenty second clips and not like Bollywood where the story is
interpesed with music.
Special effects are outstanding. Of course with viruses
reforming out telomeres we will all be soon able to grow younger as we
age.


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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:03 am
From: usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)


Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit

By Meena Iyer, TNN
Times of India
Monday, February 16, 2009

Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.

The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
1957 film Narsi Bhagat.

Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
"overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
options. I'm devastated."

Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
he and music director Ravi made famous."

Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
this is the song that should have been featured. But
Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
the film Narsi Bhagat.

"My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
work," says Nepali.

Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
a G S Nepali composition.

Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
(before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."

Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
says he has not received any response from the London-based
author.

Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."

Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
writer should be given credit, if it is due."

Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
writer of the song," says Sameer.

Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.

More at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articleshow/4131333.cms

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:45 am
From: L8 nuz


On Feb 16, 3:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
>
> By Meena Iyer, TNN
> Times of India
> Monday, February 16, 2009
>
> Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
>
> The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> options. I'm devastated."
>
> Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> he and music director Ravi made famous."
>
> Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> this is the song that should have been featured. But
> Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> the film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> work," says Nepali.
>
> Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> a G S Nepali composition.
>
> Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
>
> Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> says he has not received any response from the London-based
> author.
>
> Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
>
> Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> writer should be given credit, if it is due."
>
> Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> writer of the song," says Sameer.
>
> Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
>
> More at:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/ar...
>
> Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> Om Shanti
>
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>
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>
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I just decided (last Friday) to see THE WRESTLER on Saturday, GRAN
TORINO on Sunday and SLUMDOG today. So I went to see THE WRESTLER 2
days ago: an insanely piece of shit. No story, no twists, no nothing.
Now I have to admit that I hate wrestling, which is just another
method (along religion, trash TV, worst schools in the western world,
etc) to brainwash the American kids and keep the slave population
under control.

Anyways, the Saturday's experience made me wait for the gran torino
and slumdog dvd's

Damn! And I really liked Rourke in Nine ½ Weeks …


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:04 pm
From: "harmony"


i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
we had to get it out of our system.
so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.


<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20090215AS0eO8fF8x1X3o4LGj6yo2Y@MZ6zv...
> Slumdog runs into controversy over song credit
>
> By Meena Iyer, TNN
> Times of India
> Monday, February 16, 2009
>
> Mumbai - The odds are in its favour at the Oscars to be
> announced on February 22, but Danny Boyle's Slumdog
> Millionaire also has a raging controversy dogging it.
>
> The song 'Darshan Do Ghanshyam Nath Mori' sung by a blind
> beggar in the film is credited to 15th century poet Surdas
> on the show, Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. But, according
> to N S Nepali, the son of late poet-lyricist Gopal Singh
> Nepali, the original song was written by his father for the
> 1957 film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> Nepali, who saw Slumdog at a theatre in Mumbai a few days
> ago, says he is distraught at the makers of Slumdog for
> "overlooking this fact". "Even in the options to the
> question 'Who wrote the song 'Darshan do", the film shows
> the names: Surdas, Tulsidas, Mirabai or Kabir," says
> Nepali. "They have not given my father's name as one of the
> options. I'm devastated."
>
> Nepali says his father, who was one of the renowned poets
> of the 50s, died in 1964. "And it is great disservice to
> his name that he misses out on the credit for a song that
> he and music director Ravi made famous."
>
> Nepali admits that Surdas has over 1,500 poems to his name,
> but, he says, 'Darshan do Ghanshyam' was definitely not one
> of them. "Another song, 'Ankhiya hari darshan ko pyasi',
> written by Surdas, also expresses a similar sentiment and
> this is the song that should have been featured. But
> Slumdog clearly mentions 'Darshan do', which is a song from
> the film Narsi Bhagat.
>
> "My father didn't go to temples. Though he may have been
> inspired by spiritual writings of several poets and
> writers, this song is definitely an original piece of
> work," says Nepali.
>
> Avid music collector Amod Mehra agrees that 'Darshan do'
> sung by Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Mannadey is indeed
> a G S Nepali composition.
>
> Mehra says, "Surdas, whose original name was Bilwa Mangal
> (before he poked burning iron rods in his eyes and lost his
> sight), wrote several other bhajans in praise of Lord
> Krishna, but the one used in Slumdog is not one of them."
>
> Nepali has also emailed Vikas Swarup, the author of Q&A,
> the novel on which Slumdog Millionaire is based, but he
> says he has not received any response from the London-based
> author.
>
> Bollywood lyricist Sameer, who has penned over 4,000 songs
> in 500 films, says, "I know that G S Nepali wrote the song
> 'Darshan do' for the film Narsi Bhagat. It had music by
> Ravi. In fact, I met Ravi saab a couple of days ago and he
> did raise the issue of how he was planning to take up the
> matter of how the makers of Slumdog Millionaire overlooked
> this fact. However, I'm not entirely sure of whether G S
> Nepali saab was inspired by Surdas's writings or whether
> 'Darshan do' is a completely original piece of work."
>
> Sameer added, "There were no stringent copyright laws in
> the 50s. But I'm of the firm opinion that the original
> writer should be given credit, if it is due."
>
> Sameer also cited the example of how his song 'Chamma
> Chamma' (China Gate) was used by Baz Luhrman in the Nicole
> Kidman-film Moulin Rouge and how he was denied credit. "I
> didn't even get a single rupee from the music company or
> the foreign studio that used my song. I didn't even get an
> acknowledgement. That is gross injustice to me as the
> writer of the song," says Sameer.
>
> Vijay Singh, CEO, Fox Star, the distributors of Slumdog
> said, "We were not aware of this. We will speak to Vikas
> Swarup and the people concerned in the production house.
>
> More at:
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Slumdog-gave-wrong-answer/articleshow/4131333.cms
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
> Om Shanti
>
> Hindu Holocaust Museum
> http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>
> Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> http://www.hindu.org
> http://www.hindunet.org
>
> The truth about Islam and Muslims
> http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 12:09 pm
From: Bholu


On Feb 16, 12:04 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i, and friends, saw this movie this weekend.
> we had to get it out of our system.
> so the same evening we saw pink panther 2 with steve martin as the klutz
> detective. you should see steve trying to help out the pope.

Nikal gai shyshtam se?

Thanks bud.

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